MI and Self-Help

Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Michelle Drapkin, PhD, to discuss Motivational Interviewing and self-help. Dr. Drapkin has been working in the area of behavior change for over 20 years. She is the Owner/Director of the CBT Center and previously held roles in industry (Johnson and Johnson), academia (University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers) and federal government (Department of Veteran Affairs). She has dedicated her professional career to using psychological research to help people. She is a board-certified Clinical Psychologist and sees patients in her private practice, consults with healthcare tech start-ups, and delivers trainings and workshops on communication/motivation and health and wellbeing at work and in life. She is the sole author of The Motivational Interviewing Path to Personal Change: The Essential Workbook for Creating the Life You Want from New Harbinger Publications.

Episode Index:

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        4:42 – Michelle’s introduction and early MI story

      10:55 – Enhancing motivation through behavioral principles

      19:08 – “How does one do MI with oneself?”

      24:20 – Self-compassion: Having a more effective relationship with our inner critic 

      30:20 – “A way of being with ourselves”

      42:30 – Using Michelle’s self-help book

      45:45 – Trying the “best self” exercise 

   1:08:25 – Michelle supporting her daughter

   1:11:44 – End of episode 

Links and Contact Information:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelledrapkin/ 
• Website: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/ 
• Link to Michelle’s book: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/the-motivational-interviewing-path-to-personal-change/ 

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Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Russha Knauer to discuss her work applying MI with people who have experienced a brain injury. Russha has a BA in psychology and a master’s degree in Criminal Justice Administration. She joined the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in San Diego in 2009.

Prior to joining the MINDSOURCE Brain Injury Network, she spent her 20 year career working in juvenile and criminal justice. She is interested in exploring how Motivational Interviewing can be adapted for use with people who have had an injury to the brain. 

Episode Index:

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        5:05 – Russha’s introduction and early MI story: Learning and application of MI        

                    in juvenile justice settings

      17:15 – Transition to working with people who have experienced brain injury

      27:00 – Some challenges caring for people with brain injury

      46:55 – Applications of MI

   1:12:36 – End of episode 

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• Website: https://mindsourcecolorado.org/ 

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Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.

Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions. 

She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.

Episode Index:

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story

      15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue

      19:30 – Where does the relationship go?

      25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper 

      32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask

      39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves

      51:48 – Being a “provider” 

   1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness

   1:05:14 – End of episode 

Links and Contact Information:

• Email: [email protected]

• Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com 

• Resources Mentioned :
  • Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk
  • https://traumastewardship.com/ 
  • Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/ 
  • Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/ 
  • Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr 

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Episode 75: MI and Spirituality

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Sky Kershner to the podcast to discuss MI and Spirituality. Sky is an Assistant Professor in Psychiatry at WVU School of Medicine.

Sky has a Doctor of Ministry degree as well as a Masters in Clinical Social Work. He is the retired Director of KPCC Counseling in Charleston, WV. Sky is a Member of MINT, the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (one of two in WV), and is a MINT Certified Trainer. Sky has trained over 8000 professionals in MI across WV, the US, and abroad.

Sky has received several awards for his professional work, including the WV Civil Rights Award and WV Counselor of the Year. Sky’s biggest “15 minutes of fame” moment is that he once appeared as a guest therapist on the Discovery Studios show “Hoarders.”  He is also a contributing author for the book “ACT Therapy for Pastoral Counselors,” edited by Steven Hayes. 

Sky is the Pastor at the Unity Church in Charleston and teaches psychodynamics (fear of feelings) to psychiatric residents at WVU School of Medicine, Charleston Division. Sky is an Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART) trained practitioner, and is especially interested in the way this approach can help First Responders successfully process difficult images and memories, sometimes in just one session. Sky’s presentation topics include Optimism and Resilience, Spirituality and Recovery, Trauma Informed Parenting, Trauma Informed Care, Cultural Sensitivity, and Professional Boundaries for Clergy, and Transitions.

Sky grew up in Eastern Pennsylvania, trained, practiced, and taught in New York City before making West Virginia his home over thirty years ago. Sky lives in Charleston with his wife, two kids in college, and a very little dog.

Episode Index:

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        4:50 – Sky’s introduction and early MI story

      15:30 – Pastoral counseling and similarities with MI

      26:30 – Spiritual experiences and change

      33:00 – Autonomy supportive spirituality 

      47:30 – Faith as trust 

      58:20 – Ambivalence in spirituality: Resolution through forgiveness

   1:06:30 – Sky exploring artificial intelligence 

   1:09:31 – End of episode 

Links and Contact Information:

• Email: [email protected]
• Website: www.wv-mi.com
• Citation for Quantum Change book referenced in episode
  • Miller, W.R., & Baca, J.C. (2001). Quantum change: When epiphanies and sudden insights transform ordinary lives. Guilford Press.

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MI and Servant Leadership

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Jemima Neddy Organ to the podcast to discuss MI and servant leadership. Jemima is a community educator having worked as an instructor and training consultant in Kenya and the Middle East. In Kenya, Jemima was actively involved in advocacy and education of mental health issues in the community. She initiated the writing of the psychological bill to acknowledge counseling as a profession in Kenya. Jemima also initiated a behavior change program for youth (in a faith-based organization). The program is now in six countries in Africa due to her active training and mentoring of the leaders.

Jemima has a Ph.D. from the Organization, Information, & Learning Sciences (OILS) program at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque USA with a focus on Instructional Design (ID), Adult Education & Professional Development (AE&PD), and Motivational Interviewing in leadership (MI-Lead). Her dissertation was on “Motivational Interviewing: A Tool for Servant Leadership.” She was trained, coached, and is being mentored by Dr. William Miller, the father of MI. Jemima holds a master’s degree in Counseling Psychology from Daystar University in Nairobi, Kenya, and a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Counseling from the University of Nairobi, Kenya. Jemima has over 27 years’ of experience in the mental health profession and is also a licensed professional counselor-candidate (LPCC) in Colorado. Jemima is an active member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and she integrates her counseling skills with adult education and professional development. Her visionary personality has enabled her to initiate MI as a tool for servant leaders. Jemima gives presentations, trains, teaches, and coaches leaders on how to incorporate Motivational Interviewing in their leadership style. 

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        5:00 – Jemima introduction and early MI story

      11:45 – How MI fits in the context of leadership

      20:50 – Jemima’s father as an early source of hope

      23:06 – What is servant leadership?

      30:45 – The distinction between servant and transformational leadership            

      37:50 – The core skills of MI (i.e. OARS) and servant leadership 

      48:18 – Transitions 

      50:05 – End of recording 

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MI and Hope in Alaska

Glenn and Sebastian discussed MI and Hope in Alaska with Sarah Niecko. Sarah is an Assistant Professor of Behavioral Health Sciences at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau, AK, USA. She has a Master of Science in Medicine and a Doctorate of Health Sciences.  She is also a Duke trained Health & Wellness Coach and a recent member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers). She spent 18 years practicing behavioral and lifestyle medicine, including two years in rural Alaska partnering with Yup’ik Eskimos. It was during this time that she began to fully appreciate the transformative potential of motivational interviewing and the healing power of culture, resilience, and hope. 

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        5:00 – Transforming burnout through hope and love

      14:00 – Adapting to a new world through curiosity and compassion 

      22:30 – Embodying the MI spirit

      27:53 – “Hope is the flint of the heart”

      32:03 – MI spirit directed inward before radiating it forward

      36:57 – Language as a way to rediscover identity

      40:00 – Creating a new integrated behavioral health program

      49:52 – End of recording 

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Non-Suicidal Self Injury & MI

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Victoria Kress and Rachel O’Neill to the podcast to discuss non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI). Victoria E. Kress is a distinguished professor and the director of the clinical mental health and addictions counseling programs at Youngstown State University. She has been the recipient of over 50 awards, most of which for her advocacy, leadership, scholarship, community service, and mentorship initiatives.  She has published over 130 articles and book chapters, and she has co-authored 5 books on clinical mental health counseling with youth and adults. She is a past president of Chi Sigma Iota International, the Association for Humanistic Counseling, the Ohio Counseling Association, and the North Central Association for Counselor Education and Supervision; she is a past ACA Midwest Region Chair; and she is a current member of the American Counseling Association’s governing council.  

Rachel O’Neill, Ph.D, MBA  is a licensed clinical mental health counselor who has over 20 years of experience in the mental health profession. She has over 15 years experience in higher education, serving on the faculty for several graduate-level clinical mental health counseling programs. As a practicing therapist, Dr. O’Neill has worked in a variety of clinical settings, including community-based mental health and addictions treatment, psychiatric hospitals, college counseling settings, and inpatient facilities. She has served in multiple leadership positions, including vice president of clinical services at a global telehealth company, director of a primary medical care and behavioral health organization, and executive director of a state counseling association. Dr. O’Neill’s academic work has been featured in peer-reviewed publications such as The Journal of Mental Health Counseling, The Clinical Supervisor, The Journal of LGBT & Youth, and the Journal of Creativity and Mental Health. She is an expert contributor to national publications and media, including NBC News, HBO, Teen Vogue, Cosmopolitan, Wired, Refinery 29, Cheddar News, Time magazine, and Allure. She currently works as a mental health expert in the technology industry. 

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        5:00 – Victoria’s and Rachel’s early MI stories

      13:45 – Non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI)

      18:45 – Engaging effectively with people who exhibit NSSI

      20:55 – Understanding a person’s NSSI and assessment of suicide risk           

      23:30 – Reframing “attention seeking” as an effort to connect

      27:20 – The clinician’s experience of working with someone who exhibits NSSI      

      31:00 – How MI fits in conversations with people who exhibit NSSI

      37:45 – Harm reduction and safety planning

      44:50 – Blending MI with narrative therapy 

      47:10 – Pre-session intention setting for clinicians

      53:45 – Change talk

      58:30 – Going beyond behavior change

      62:40 – Walking more and “childism”

   1:07:56 – End of recording 

Links and contact information:

• Victoria Kress:
  • Email: [email protected] 
• Rachel O’Neill:
  • LinkedIn: Rachel O’Neill
  • Threads: Rachel O’Neill
• Reference to article on MI for NSSI:
  • Kress, V.E., & Hoffman, R.M. (2008). Non-suicidal self-injury and motivational interviewing: Enhancing readiness for change. Journal of Mental Health Counseling, 30, 311-329.

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MI and Harm Reduction

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Kasey Claborn to the podcast to discuss her work on MI and harm reduction. Dr. Claborn is a licensed clinical psychologist and assistant professor of Social Work and Psychiatry at The University of Texas at Austin. She is the Steve Hicks Fellow of Addiction and Recovery Services and Director for the Addictions Research Institute. Dr. Claborn is the Principal Investigator for several projects funded by the National Institutes of Health, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, and the Health Resources and Services Administration. To date, she has received over $14.3 million dollars in external funding for her research. Dr. Claborn’s research focuses on improving the addiction system of care through community based participatory research methods and system science. She has expertise in designing and building digital technologies to improve care coordination and community overdose prevention efforts. In 2021, Dr. Claborn received an international award from Google for her work in building innovative technologies for social impact. Dr. Claborn’s current work seeks to use innovative methods to combine traditional and non-traditional overdose surveillance methods to inform data-driven community response.

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

06:30 – Kasey’s early MI story

09:30 – What is community outreach?

11:10 – Harm reduction: What is it and how has Kasey applied it?

22:30 – HR and abstinence as part of a continuum

31:00 – Training HR workers in MI

35:15 – HR and peer support

37:30 – Barriers to HR and ways to overcome

49:00 – Adaptation of MI for HR

61:00 – Political aspects of HR

70:06 – End of episode

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MI in the Treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Glenn and Seb welcomed Dr. Jim Carter to the podcast to discuss his work applying MI to the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Jim enjoys providing clinical services, consultation, and staff training focused on integrating MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapies.  He has been a licensed clinical psychologist since 1999 and is currently a member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a diplomate for the Academy of Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and a certified behavior therapist by the International OCD Foundation Behavior Therapy Training Institute.  Dr. Carter recently founded a specialized online clinic called OCD123 that is available to persons residing in California seeking integrated evidence-based therapies. 

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

05:15 – Jim’s early MI story

14:45 – What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?

26:10 – How to help people with OCD 

32:00 – Using “experiments” 

40:15 – How our minds work and alternatives for when we get stuck

51:00 – Role play – Helping a new father with fears of contamination 

62:30 – Role play debrief

73:30 – Closing comments

77:57 – End of episode

Contact information:

Website and contact: www.ocd123.us

International OCD Foundation: https://iocdf.org/

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Coding MI

Denise Ernst, Ph.D. join Glenn & Sebastian to discuss the importance of coding in MI research and teaching. Denise is a psychologist and MI trainer and consultant. She is part of the research team that developed the Motivational Interviewing Skill Code (MISC) and the Motivational Interviewing Treatment Integrity Coding system. (MITI). She is an adjunct professor at the Portland State School of Social Work. Denise leads an international team of coders that provides MI coding for the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, research and implementation efforts, and practitioner skill development.

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:23 – Denise’s early MI story

08:00 – Nurturing the development of MI 

12:30 – Why is coding important?

19:50 – The MITI: Treatment integrity and learning enrichment 

26:20 – Softening sustain talk

29:10 – What to start paying attention to as a new learner 

34:00 – What have we learned about MI because of the MITI?

39:50 – Coding with audio vs a transcript

43:00 – Voice intonation when using reflections

45:30 – Open vs closed questions and the importance of what a question is asking for 

49:10 – Simple and complex affirmations

58:30 – Denise’s retirement and passing the MITI on  

63:01 – End of episode

Contact information:

Website: www.deniseernst.com

MITI: https://casaa.unm.edu/download/miti4_2.pdf 

Book: https://www.apa.org/pubs/books/deliberate-practice-motivational-interviewing 

Meta-analysis mentioned in episode: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6310665/ 

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Executive Functioning & MI

In this episode Glenn and Sebastian discuss executive functioning and MI with Tamara Hamilton, LCSW, CMBT. Tamara is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with more than thirty years of experience in behavioral health. For the past ten years, she has been at Cliff Valley School, a pre-K through 8 progressive independent school in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, where she serves on the administration team as school counselor and director of the Cliff Valley Institute. She has focused on issues impacting the well-being of children with a particular emphasis on integrating social/emotional learning into academic curricula. Tamara earned her Master’s Degree from the Indiana University School of Social Work, and she holds a graduate certificate in Mind, Brain, and Teaching from the School of Education at Johns Hopkins University. Tamara is a frequent consultant and invited speaker regarding various topics related to child development. Her presentation style is informative, warm, and  relatable as she combines her training in neuro-learning, clinical professional experience, and personal stories as a mother of three. 

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:10 – Tamara’s early MI story

08:25 – What are Executive Functions (EF)?

14:20 – “Learning is changing”

20:40 – Tamara’s journey as a mother of a child with autism

28:00 – “Setting the emotional climate” when working with children and families

30:30 – Applying MI to EF coaching 

41:30 – Parallels when working with parents

46:00 – EF skills in context

50:00 – From labels to “What do you need?”

57:15 – Preparing for this summer’s Cliff Valley Institute 

60:25 – End of episode

Contact information:

Email: [email protected] 

Website: https://www.cliffvalleyinstitute.org/ 

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