1. Thinking of depression as a way of seeing the world … through toilet paper roll binoculars. 

2. Why healing might actually just be permission to go. 

3. Chanel’s definition of success: refusing to succumb to perfection or exhaustion–and showing up as herself in every moment.

4. The healing moment when Chanel returned to Stanford and was held in sound–which set her free.

About Chanel: 

Chanel Miller is a writer and artist who received her BA in Literature from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Her critically acclaimed memoir, KNOW MY NAME, was a New York Times bestseller, a New York Times Book Review Notable Book, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner, as well as a best book of 2019 in Time, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, NPR, and People, among others. She is a 2019 Time Next 100 honoree and a 2016 Glamour Woman of the Year honoree under her pseudonym, “Emily Doe.”

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372. The Presley Family Legacy with Riley Keough

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda sit down with Riley Keough to explore her journey through love, loss, and healing within her family. Riley talks about co-authoring her mother Lisa Marie Presley's memoir, From Here to the Great Unknown: A Memoir, which recounts Lisa Marie’s life as the daughter of Elvis Presley, her career, her own family, and everything in between. Riley also shares how she is finding purpose and strength amidst profound loss.

Discover:

-The unfinished family work Riley is closing for her mother and grandfather

-The way Riley’s experience loving people with addictions and grief shaped her understanding of love and resilience

-How Riley names the profound sadness and generational trauma within her family

-The inherent conflict between Lisa Marie and her mom, and how Riley finds compassion for them both.

On Riley: Riley Keough is an Emmy, Golden Globe, and Independent Spirit Award–nominated actress. She is known for her work in Daisy Jones & the Six, Zola, and more. She also co-directed War Pony (2022), and cofounded the production company Felix Culpa with Gina Gammell. She is the eldest daughter of Lisa Marie Presley and sole trustee of Graceland. Her new book - From Here to the Great Unknown—written in both Lisa Marie’s and Riley’s voices, a mother and daughter communicating—from this world to the one beyond—as they try to heal each other – is available now.

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What is gaslighting REALLY and what isn’t? 

Plus, how to know if you’re in a relationship with a gaslighter, the three types of gaslighters, and how to break free from a gaslighter and reclaim yourself. 

About Dr. Stern: 

Robin Stern, Ph.D., is the co-founder and associate director for the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and an associate research scientist at the Child Study Center at Yale. She is a licensed psychoanalyst with 30 years of experience treating individuals, couples, and families. She is the author of The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide: Your Personal Journey Toward Healing from Emotional Abuse. 

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371. I’m a Sociopath: Patric Gagne’s Story 

Patric Gagne – writer, former therapist, diagnosed sociopath, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and antisocial personality disorders – shares 

-What sociopathy is and how it shows up in her life;

-The shocking statistic of how many people are sociopathic;

-How her diagnosis affects her experience as a wife and mother; and

-The ways in which sociopathy is actually a superpower.

About Patric: 

PATRIC GAGNE is a writer, former therapist, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and anti-social personality disorders. Her New York Times best-selling memoir, Sociopath, shares her struggle to understand her own sociopathy and shed light on this often-maligned and misunderstood mental disorder. 

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370. How to Know if You’re in a Cult with Tia Levings (Pt. 2)

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby welcome back Tia Levings for part two of this amazing conversation on her experience leaving a high control Christian Fundamentalist cult. Tia shares her experience leaving the church and her husband and offers advice for others in a similar situation. 

Discover: 

-The life-saving power of women sharing their stories—and why it threatens patriarchy

-How she finally heard her own voice—and how you can find yours, too

-Why people crave fundamentalism—and a solution they’re searching for

-Tia’s life-saving advice for women escaping abuse or high-control groups

More on Tia: Tia Levings is the New York Times Bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, her memoir of escape from Christian Patriarchy. She writes about the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She also appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in North Carolina, she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter.

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1. Alex’s four most effective healing techniques that you can start today. 

2. How it affects us to grow up never seeing our mothers have joy. 

3. Why – if you think you don’t have any self-soothing strategies – you actually just have unhealthy self-soothing strategies. 

4. Childhood wounds that surface in adulthood, and the path to intergenerational healing. 

5. Where to begin when you never receive the apology and closure you deserve.

About Alex:

Alex Elle is an author, certified breathwork coach, podcast host, and Restorative Writing teacher. Alex’s writing came into her life by way of therapy and the exploration of healing through journaling and mindfulness. Her most recent book, HOW WE HEAL, is available now.

TW: @alex_elle

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369. Trad Wife Cults: How Tia Levings Escaped (Pt 1)

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby sit down with Tia Levings, NYT bestselling author, to discuss her experience in a high control Christian Fundamentalist cult: her journey from indoctrination to freedom to healing from religious trauma.

Discover: 

-Why strong women are often drawn into Christian extremism—and how they can break free

-Why parents are taught to hit infants, and husbands are taught to spank their wives

-The hidden agenda behind why Christian Fundamentalists encourage large families

-The moment Glennon busted her kids out of Christian school

-The eerie crossover of wellness culture and Christian extremism

More on Tia: Tia Levings is the New York Times Bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, her memoir of escape from Christian Patriarchy. She writes about the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She also appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in North Carolina, she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter.

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368. The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On? 

Abby, Glennon and Amanda delve into your voicemails and discuss matters of the broken heart, closure, self-sabotage, moving toward or away from family, and more. 

Discover: 

• Glennon’s “magical pessimism” 
• Why creative people do not seek out closure 
• The geographical solution or finding the “right” place to live

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1. What Melissa’s parents said when she told them about her dream – and how those magic words set the course of Melissa’s life.

2. The green and red flags Melissa tells her kids to look for in a relationship.

3. Why Melissa is a shark, and her brilliant strategy to “Run Around the Block” in almost any difficult situation. 

4. Melissa’s and Abby’s experiences with ghosts.

5. How Melissa learned about sex – and the way she talks to her kids about it.

About Melissa:

Melissa McCarthy is an award-winning writer, producer, and actor. Her work includes Bridesmaids, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, Ghostbusters,The Heat; Identity Thief; This is 40, The Hangover Part III, The Starling, “Gilmore Girls”, and “Samantha Who?”. She won an Emmy Award and People’s Choice Award for her role in “Mike & Molly” as well as an Emmy for “Saturday Night Live”. 

Melissa and her husband Ben Falcone founded On the Day Productions and have produced Tammy, The Boss, Life of the Party, “Nobodies,” “Little Big Shots,” Superintelligence , Thunder Force, “God’s Favorite Idiot,” and Bob Ross: Happy Accidents, Betrayal & Greed.

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367. Glennon’s Dramatic Social Media Plan with Amelia Hruby

Today, we’re finally doing it: talking about leaving social media. On the episode you’ll hear Glennon, Abby and Amanda chat with their guest, Amelia Hruby about the challenges and impacts of social media on mental health, personal relationships, community building, and self-worth. Glennon shares her experience of stepping away from social media and possible next steps. 

Discover: 

-How social media is linked to codependency and anxious attachment 

-The two must-do practices to evaluate your current relationship to social media 

-How to navigate the fear of missing out (FOMO) and stay connected without social media

-Glennon’s journey to leaving socials and what she is thinking of doing next 

More on Amelia: Amelia Hruby is a writer, educator and podcaster with a PhD in philosophy. She is the founder of Softer Sounds, a feminist podcast studio for entrepreneurs and creatives. And she’s the host of Off the Grid, a podcast about leaving social media without losing all your clients.

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1. Glennon gives you a beautiful Thanksgiving pep talk that has Amanda and Abby nodding along and rolling with laughter.

2. Why Amanda suggests that we can be free to be our full selves at the Thanksgiving table, if we also each bring our own damn casserole.

3. Why the best predictor of how a family member is going to act is how a family member has always acted.

4. We’re taking holiday-themed questions from our beloved Pod Squad about in-laws, when to break tradition, and how to navigate different family of origin patterns.

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