In 2006, the multi platinum selling band The Fray was everywhere - their songs, Over My Head (Cable Car) and How to Save a Life dominated radio waves and television soundtracks. Behind the scenes, lead singer Isaac Slade and manager Gregg Latterman had built more than just a business partnership - they had forged a deep friendship born of mutual respect and shared artistic dreams. But by 2009, that relationship was in ruins. Today's conversation, the 2nd episode in our Hard Conversations series, reveals how they found their way back. It's a master class in conflict resolution and reminds us that sometimes the bravest thing we can possibly do is pick up the phone.

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Kelly and therapist friend Dr. Aliza Pressman explore how we can best support those affected by the LA fires. After witnessing the devastation firsthand, they share wisdom about the power of simple connection – how a thoughtful check-in or just being present can make a real difference, and remind us that there's no "right" way to respond to crisis. The episode wraps up with Kelly reading Ellen Bass' moving poem "The Thing Is," offering comfort and hope. For those seeking ways to help or needing support, messages are welcome at [email protected].

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Wondering how to have "the talk" with your aging parents (or any elderly family member who may need help)? In this episode, Kelly sits down with her good friends Steve and Jill Marshall of Silverpath for Part 2 of their open discussion about caring for aging parents. They explore how to build effective sibling teams where each person contributes based on their strengths, share tips for starting difficult conversations with genuine empathy, and offer advice for moving forward when parents resist change.

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Ever wondered what keeps two people together when the days are intense and the answers aren't clear? Kelly talks with Bob and Amy Allnutt about raising their son Jack, who is severely autistic. These two figured out something pretty special about making a marriage work - it's not about seeing eye to eye, but about creating room for different ways of handling things. When they finally found a way for Jack to communicate by typing, he told them something they'll never forget: "I'm trying and I'm really smart." Bob and Amy get real about the hard stuff - the violent episodes, the exhaustion, and what happens when you stop trying to be right and start trying to understand. It's a conversation that'll make you think differently about what it means to have someone's back.

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For more information on Bob, Amy and Jack Allnutt, check out Andrew Solomon's excellent book Far From the Tree: Parents, Children and the Search for Identity or the fantastic documentary Far From the Tree (based on the book).

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This is the story of an oncologist named Amy who diagnosed herself with leukemia in her own lab and a stem cell donor named Brandon who stepped up to save her life. The chances of finding a perfect donor match are extremely small. The chances that the perfect donor would end up living only an hour away are astronomically small - and yet, these two very special people beat the odds in many ways. Anyone can sign up to save a life. To join the Gift of Life Marrow Registry, donors simply swab the inside of their cheeks and complete a registration questionnaire. Request your swab kit today at http://giftoflife.org/Swab (Previously aired )

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In this first of four episodes, Kelly sits down with longtime friends Steve and Jill Marshall, founders of Silver Path Consulting, to discuss the complex challenges of aging parents. Through personal stories and expert insights, they explore why families avoid crucial planning conversations, the "dying longer" phenomenon, and how to navigate decisions about healthcare, housing, and family dynamics before crisis hits.

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Start your 2025 with this timely conversation between Kelly and Kendra Adachi (The Lazy Genius), who challenges everything we've been taught about productivity and time management. Together, they explore why traditional approaches aren't working for women's lives, and offer a revolutionary new framework for finding contentment in the chaos. Kelly and Kendra discuss Kendra's new book The Plan and look at how to stop treating exhaustion as a status symbol and start embracing a more integrated approach to daily life. It's an honest conversation about redefining what a successful life really looks like, perfect for anyone seeking a more compassionate way to navigate their time and energy in the new year.

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High school counselor Leah Grant gives us a candid look at how phones and social media have changed student life over her 23 years in education. She reveals what she sees in the hallways every day - kids glued to their screens instead of looking at each other - and shares her creative ways of helping students build real connections and find their spark again.

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In this quick teaser episode, Kelly gives us a taste of her upcoming conversation with "The Lazy Genius", Kendra Adachi, author of The Plan. Kendra (and Kelly) explore how we can better manage our time by focusing on what matters most in different seasons of our lives. It's a preview that will make you want to catch their full discussion next week.

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“He may die but he’s alive now and we are going to enjoy this moment together.” This is theology professor Lee C. Camp sharing the turning point of his life as a father of a child who was unwell and is now, thankfully, in recovery. A tender and unguarded conversation, laced with a few existential bombs, to inspire better, less angry days for all of us. Check out Lee’s podcast and live show both called, No Small Endeavor. (Previously aired)

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Stephanie Doublestein wrote this letter to honor her parents Chuck and Sue on the occasion of their 50th Anniversary. Stephanie says she observed a marriage and a love not made up of flashy moments, loud declarations of romance, big jewelry surprises or grand gestures but the humble yet impressive accumulation of quiet acts of service, regular little rituals, small moments of thoughtful generosity…and choosing love over and over. (Previously aired)

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