Tawny and Lisa talk about crying – why humans do it, how it works physically, and what it can mean emotionally. As we grow older, our patterns and triggers for crying evolve. Tawny is just learning to cry and Lisa is not much of a crier. They talk about situations when feel like they “should” cry, but it just doesn’t happen. And Tawny talks about the relationship between sadness to anger and how to work with it. 

Music Minute features System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine, Limp Bizkit, Bob Marley, and Prince. 

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Brian Cuban, a lawyer, writer and recovery advocate. He’s the author of four books, both memoir and fiction. His latest is The Body Brokers, a crime thriller that digs deep into the opioid epidemic. Brian is a groundbreaker in discussing eating disorders among professional men. In fact, 35% of people who struggle with eating disorders are men. They also talk about the co-occurrence of eating disorders and other addictive behavior.

Music Minute features Billy Joel.

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Lindsay Sutherland Boal, a coach, advocate, and the founder of both The Uncovery App and She Walks Canada, which support women overcoming problematic relationships with alcohol. They chat about gray-area drinking and the concept of “rock enough,” the acknowledgement that you don’t need a “rock bottom” crisis to quit drinking. The Uncovery App is dedicated to the pursuit of alcohol-free living through self-investigation and support. She Walks Canada organizes walks around the world to support recovery and foster community.

Music Minute features Lindsay’s opera career and tropical lounge music.

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On Instagram: @theuncoveryapp and @shewalkscanada

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Tawny and Lisa talk about the evolution of Dry January, including some Do’s and Don’ts. DO give yourself grace, journal about your experiences, find an accountability buddy and/or seek outside support, and stock your fridge for success with NA beverages. DON’T compare your relationship with alcohol to someone else’s, don’t expect to do Dry January “perfectly,” don’t try to take on too many other personal goals at the same time, and don’t overthink it.

Music Minute features The Sobriety Deck Spotify playlist!

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Tawny and Lisa talk about how the change of seasons, including Daylight Savings Time, effects them physically and emotionally. Seasonal Affective Disorder is real and they make space for it. But it also requires an acknowledgement that slowing down means giving themselves permission to be not as productive as usual. 

Music Minute features Hanson, Limp Bizkit, The Four Seasons and Garbage.

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Tawny and Lisa celebrate 250 episodes with a light convo about what they’re reading, watching, and listening to. Tawny’s been going to live performances in NYC, including Julio Torres and LCD Soundsystem. She’s following Taylor Lorenz’s Substack and Hard Fork for tech news.

Read The Winner, Queenie, and Whoever You Are Honey

Listen to podcasts: La Culturistas, SmartLess, and Armchair Expert 

On TV: Ru Paul’s Drag Race, Shrinking, Fanatical: The Catfishing of Tegan and Sara, and Only Murders in the Building

Music: The Dare, Charlie XCX and Chappelle Roan

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Tawny and Lisa talk about boundaries with social media, taking breaks from it, and being mindful with it. Tawny is quiet-quitting social media and Lisa is spending five minutes a day on it. Addiction to social media is real thing. They talk about the dopamine effects of social media and how that has turned toxic with algorithms and disinformation. Also, consider taking a social media inventory – what are the pros and cons? What are the platforms you most enjoy? Choose those and engage in a way that makes you feel good. 

Music Minute features vinyl records and deep dive playlists. 

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Tawny and Lisa talk about THE SOBRIETY DECK, out December 3! The deck is 50 cards, broken into five sections: Sobriety Tool Kit, Knowing Ourselves, Relationships, Showing Up, and Experiencing Joy. They dig into cards on Boundaries, Understanding Your Triggers, SoBerthday, and Give Yourself Grace. The deck is full of tips and tools based on the conversations on the podcast. It’s a choose-your-own-adventure tool for support in any way you find helpful! 

Music Minute features Jeff Buckley and Road Recovery.

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Tawny and Lisa talk about the holiday season and how to get through it with your sanity and sobriety. Tawny shares talking points if you want to challenge family members who are aligning themselves with the *wrong* side of history. They also share tips for self-preservation if you opt out of political tension at the dinner table. Set the terms on which you’re willing to engage and stick to them. Feel free to take a pass on family and friends to protect your recovery. As always, go gently with yourself.

Music Minute features Bruce Springsteen, Lindsey Buckingham, Wham!, Mariah Carey, Madonna, and Hanson.

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Tawny and Lisa talk about the U.S. election and its devastating implications. They discuss what happened, what it means, and how we can organize around going forward. There’s anger and fear, but also determination to be part of the fight for democracy. Most of all, to stay or get sober, take care of yourself however that means – exercise, rest, tuning out of social media, and diving deep into community. 

Music Minute features Rage Against the Machine, 4 Non Blondes, Limp Bizkit, and System of a Down.

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Tawny and Lisa talk about how they look back on their drinking days now. There’s compassion for their old selves, gratitude for living a booze-free life, and an appreciation that in all the drama and mess, there are happy memories to look back on. Not to mention, that they wouldn’t have the lives they have today without living through all the experiences they had before.

Music Minute features Texas country music and Oasis.

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