The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice, and what do you know about polyvagal theory?

You can find out more about what Kim and Larissa are up to at icutalks.org, watershedcharlotte.com and kimhoneycutt.com 

PLUG TIME!!!!

The Enneagram AND 2026 Tour is around the corner!

The Enneagram and Parenting in Nashville, TN - The Enneagram and Spirituality in Jackson, MS - The Enneagram and Trauma in Colorado Springs, CO - The Enneagram and Your Body in Minneapolis, MN - The Enneagram and Stress in California.

Join us in person, or join us online virtually!

Get all of the important information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand

Today's Intro:

• The Waterboy (1998, Touchstone Pictures)
• Bob's Burgers (s15, e1 FOX)
• Breaking Bad (s4, e6 AMC)

Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee!

4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes!

Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8.

"I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE

All romance lovers need to check out her Lucky Lovers of London series, and you can learn more about Jess at jesseverlee.com

LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey!

Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work.

• Which number mistypes the most?
• Which number is mistyped as the most?
• Who has the greatest difficulty managing others?
• What do you know about the 4th Step?

Her new book, When Working Together Doesn't Work, comes out in March, but it isn't too early to pre-order. You can pre-order your copy here. It also isn't too late to join us on Saturday, September 27th online or in Dallas to hear Joey teach! Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to learn more and sign up. And visit wesolutions.life to learn more about Joey and her corporate enneagram teaching.

TODAY'S INTRO

• Corporate (S1, E3 - Comedy Central)
• Office Space (1999, Mike Judge)
• Corporate (S2, E4 - Comedy Central)

Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast!

Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee.

To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instagram account a follow, @drmollysays and check out The Dr. Molly Says Podcast!

It is time to hear from Enneagram 8 listeners for a new episode of Others On The Journey! Suzanne and Molly talk about what betrayal means to them and to Eights. We would like to hear from our Enneagram 8 listeners on what betrayal means to you, and if you can give some examples. Visit theenneagramjourney.com/contact and leave a voicemail with your response for our next Others On The Journey podcast episode. Heck, this podcast is solitary work that we cannot do alone!

PLUG TIME

When Working Together Doesn't Work with Joey Schewee

Saturday, September 27 / 9:00 am - 4:00 pm

The Micah Center in Dallas or join Online

Join consultant and Enneagram Theorist, Joey Schewee of @enneagramparents, and co-facilitator of The Enneagram For The Modern World Cohort, ahead of the release of her book, When Working Together Doesn't Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers, for a day of Enneagram exploration. Joey will guide participants through her impactful take on triads, stances, and the core of her unique body of work: processing centers. Whether you are new to the Enneagram or well-versed in this wisdom, this workshop is thoughtfully designed to give all participants takeaways that are immediately and exponentially applicable.

CLICK HERE TO REGISTER IN PERSON OR ONLINE

Pre-order your copy of When Working Together Doesn't Work here on Amazon

TODAY'S INTRO

• Anxiety by Doechii
• Mean Girls (Paramount Pictures, 2004)
• Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (Columbia Pictures, 2006)

Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown!

Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church.

• Decision Making
• Passive Aggressive Anger
• Repressed Doing
• Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!)
• I'm Still Here and Full Of Myself

Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com !

Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see everything that Suzanne, Joe, and LTM are up to.

• The LTM Enneagram Cohort Program application deadline is September 1!
• Small groups are about to begin, and the next round will start in December 2026
• Enneagram and Spirituality in Charlotte in September
• A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center
• and so much more!

Today's Intro

• Joy by for King + Country
• The Office (NBC, s2, e8)
• The Office (NBC, s7, e14)

Q&A Episode in the house!

We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).

"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"

Then we get to talk about:

• 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?!
• Gut Types
• How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame
• Essence v Personality
• 9s and Anger
• and more!

Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact

PLUG TIME

Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com !

Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community!

TODAY'S INTRO

• Captain Phillips (2013, Columbia Pictures)
• Ron Swanson (Parks and Rec, s3, e9)
• Angry Woman (Ashe, 2022)

Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!

Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.

Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com

“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

• Spirituality and the Enneagram

ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC

September 5-6, 2025

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte

• Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You

The Micah Center in Dallas, TX

August 29, 2025

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty

TODAY's INTRO

• 40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)
• Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)
• Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)
• The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos)

Let's do some math.

2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!

Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.

• Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
• The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.
• Parenting with the struggles of social media.
• Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!
• aaaaaaaand more

"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS

You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

• Spirituality and the Enneagram

ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC

September 5-6, 2025

REGISTRATION WILL BE UP SOON!

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)
• Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)
• Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount)

Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!

The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!

• How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
• Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
• We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers
• Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more

"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."

- RH

To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• "Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)
• Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9

Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!

As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?

"You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS

"I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• South Park (Comedy Central: s14, e2)
• SNL (NBC: s23, e11)
• SNL (NBC: s17, e7)

Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).

Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one

• Escaping to the future
• What do you do when you're restless?
• Balance
• Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number
• Do you respond to strangers online?
• Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparents
• and more!

"Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• The Departed (2006 Warner Bros.)
• Laura Addis on TEJ Podcast
• F.R.I.E.N.D.S (NBC, s3 e18)