The Enneagram Journey

Suzanne Stabile

  • 46 minutes 42 seconds
    Alison McCrary (3) Part Two - Calling and Community

    The highly anticipated second part of our conversation with Alison McCrary (enneagram 3) is here!

    The Reverend (Joseph Stabile) takes host duties in today's episode as he and Alison talk about their callings and their journey. Alison started Methodist and now is Catholic. Joe started Catholic and now is Methodist. Wow, the journey they've been on!

    • Would the Reverend make a good butcher?
    • Alison and the Black Panthers teaming up?
    • Could Suzanne and Joe keep up with Alison for a day?

    Today's episode is light on enneagram, but so heavy on Journey, and we think that is a great thing, and hope you do too!

    Two links from the podcast that we hope you'll check out:

    Alison talks about her work with inmates on death row. If you would like to learn more and support that ministry, click here.

    And, if you want to learn more about Alison and all she is doing in the world, visit



    1. Enneagram Bootcamp is August 1-3, and May is the final month to take advantage of the Early Bird price! If you are wanting to join a community growing around Stress, Loss, and Relationship, this is a weekend for you. CLICK HERE for all of the important information and registration.

    2. Now is the time to apply for the 2025 LTM Cohort Program! The deadline for all applications is August 20th, but don't delay and forget. Next year will be the first year LTM hosts 6! Cohorts: Enneagram, Enneagram and Family Systems, De/Reconstruction, Enneagram and Contemplative Spirituality, Leading Change, and Enneagram for the Modern World. Click here or visit for all of the important information and applications.



    • At Least It Was Here, The 88
    • Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit (Touchstone Pictures, 1993)
    • Hitch (Columbia Pictures, 2005)
    • Parks and Rec (S6: E10)


    10 May 2024, 4:47 pm
  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    Alison McCrary (3) - Big 3 Energy, Spiritual Practices, Queer Eye

    "A contemplative practice is any act, habitually entered into with your whole heart, as a way of awakening, deepening, and sustaining a contemplative experience of the inherent holiness of the present moment."

    -James Finley


    What an honor it is to have Alison McCrary join us on The Enneagram Journey!

    Who knows the people you might get to talk to when you're just sitting on the couch watching an episode of Queer Eye?! Alison, an enneagram 3, is a New Orleans based political, cultural, and spiritual warrior. She learned her number when she was in formation to become a Catholic Sister.

    Two great things about this episode. First, the Reverend joins the show! Second, we knew there was going to be so much to talk about that this is the first part of a two parter.

    To learn more about Alison and the great things she is doing in the world, visit

    And for those looking for her Spotify Playlists, you'll find them here


    2024 Enneagram Bootcamp - August 1-3 - in Dallas or join Online!

    Stress, Loss, and I right?!?! Join LTM and Suzanne as we add some new understanding and tools for these facets of life. The community that grows year over year at Bootcamp is hard to explain, but it is very real and very wonderful, and we want you to be a part of it.

    Visit for all of the important information and to get your tickets to join in Dallas or to register to join online if you cannot make it in person.

    3 days of solitary work that cannot be done alone!


    Today's Intro:

    • Queer Eye (S8, E5)
    • Sister Act (Touchstone Pictures, 1992)
    • Dane Cook (Retaliation)
    16 April 2024, 6:44 pm
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Matt Lesser (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Assessments, his Dark Night of the Soul

    Meet Enneagram Eight, Matt Lesser, the third third of the first third of our series with three members of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort!

    The man has done some work, and he shares his journey with us beginning with a life threatening illness when he was 15, depression in his twenties, and his dark night of the soul.

    He left the corporate world in 2021 and started his own business, beginning with two books, Unsatisfied: When Less Is More and Unengaged: Building Flourishing Organizations. Learn more about Matt and what he is doing at



    Too too too much to plug, so you need to hop over to and start with the Events Page. 2 upcoming Know Your Number workshops, the deadline for the 2024 Leading Change Cohort, and the Super Early Bird Special for the 2024 Enneagram Cohort, and some great other things and stuff!

    Just in case you missed it a few lines earlier, !



    • F.R.I.E.N.D.S (S8, E2)
    • Step Brothers (2008 Columbia Pictures)
    • Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (2006 Columbia Pictures)


    27 March 2024, 6:34 am
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    Alex Reegan (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Both/And, Shamanic Spirituality

    Welcome to Part 2 of what we envision to be a 9 part series throughout 2024 following 3 members of The LTM Enneagram Cohort features, enneagram 8, Alex Reegan!


    Alex Reegan is the author of What Needs To Be Said, as well as an interfaith minister, speaker, and transformative spiritual coach who uses his intuitive wisdom to help guide people towards their own inner knowing. Born into an evangelical Christian family that prevented his true identity as a trans man from emerging, he spent years in depression, anxiety, and addiction trying to break free of the oppressive beliefs that bound him. His journey at last led him to sobriety, shamanism and then seminary, which helped him reclaim his faith and trust in the Divine. Through speaking engagements, workshops, one-on-one and group sessions with clients, Alex is profoundly dedicated to helping others speak their truth, release shame, and find oneness.



    Registration is now open for the 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp:

    The Enneagram: Stress, Loss, and Relationships with LTM and the Enneagram Godmother.

    When: Thursday, August 1 - Saturday, August 3

    Where: The Grove, Dallas, TX or join online from wherever you are

    visit for all of the important information and to sign up. And don't forget about the pre-conference Yoga workshop with Yenneagram Master, Courtney Perry!


    "A pastor walks out of the church and into the woods, in pursuit of the God he's lost."

    Sounds like a great story, right?!

    Join LTM and author and theologian Tony Jones on Friday, April 26th at The Micah Center or join online for a live podcast recording as Tony, Joe, and Suzanne discuss his newest book, The God of Wild Places.

    As an additional bonus, musician Ronnie Fauss will be sharing the stage as well!

    visit to sign up!



    • "Woke Up This Morning" by Alabama 3
    • Big Mouth (S4, E1: The New Me)
    • The Break-Up (2006, Universal Pictures)


    7 March 2024, 8:46 pm
  • 1 hour 22 minutes
    Darnell Young (1) - Enneagram Cohort, Critic Talk, Context

    This is the first episode of an anticipated 10 Episode series over the next year, that we're really excited for! You have most likely heard about the LTM Cohort program on the podcast, and what better way to talk about it then to follow along with 3 Cohort members?

    On today's show, meet Enneagram One Darnell Young.

    She has always been interested in the behavior of others and the motivation behind people's behavior. In being introduced to the Enneagram, Darnell felt the tool put a name, or number, to how she viewed people. She loves to share information with others to bring them to awareness of themselves and others around them.

    In the next couple of episodes listeners will also meet Matt and Alex from the 2024 Enneagram Cohort.

    If you're interested in applying for the LTM Cohort program, there is still time to apply for the 2024 Leading Change Cohort, and the dates, expectations, and application for the 2025 program will open up in the Spring!

    Want to dip your toes before diving into a Cohort? CLICK HERE to sign up for one of LTM's Enneagram small groups starting in March.

    The Enneagram Journey podcast is produced by Life in the Trinity Ministry, a 501c3 non-profit ministry, and your donations help us to keep workshops and resources affordable as well as fund scholarships for the Cohort program, teaching events, and maintenance and upkeep of The Micah Center. You can contribute at and the enneagram



    • Jerry Maguire (TriStar Pictures, 1996)
    • The Princess Bride (20th Century Studios, 1987)
    • South Park (S4, E8)
    • You People (Netflix, 2023)

    Blessings on your journey!

    6 February 2024, 9:28 pm
  • 1 hour 35 minutes
    "The Monday Group" - Small Groups, Spiritual Formation, and Barbie

    Meet some of the members of LTM's first online Enneagram Journey Curriculum group!

    Suzanne and Joel talk with Chelsea (8), Jennifer (4), Maria (2), Marty (2), Hillary (2), Matt (6), and Ronna (8) in today's episode about how they found each other and what the Journey has been like so far.

    Then the conversation evolved into a discussion about where we find our shadow side and false self in enneagram work, the greatness of the Barbie movie, spiral dynamics, and the importance of intergenerational learning.

    If you don't have a group yet, find one! Create one! Join one! You've heard it over and over again, one of the mottos of LTM and The Micah Center is, "A place for solitary work that cannot be done alone."


    LTM will be starting a few new small groups in 2024, and the information for the 2025 Cohort program will be available soon!

    Be sure to visit to see what is new and upcoming at LTM



    • Barbie (2023)
    • South Park (S7, E12)
    • Bar Rescue (2011, Paramount Network)



    29 January 2024, 7:42 pm
  • 1 hour 8 seconds
    Josh Graves (3) - The Simple Secret

    "Marriage has taught me that two people can experience reality in two very different ways." - Josh Graves


    Welcome Josh Graves, preaching and teaching minister at Otter Creek Church in Nashville, TN and author of The Simple Secret: Choosing Love in a Culture of Hostility, and an Enneagram 3.

    A little subtype talk, a little family systems talk, relationships (of course), and do you know if you're playing the game?


    This is a GOOOOOOD, good book! You can get your copy here on Amazon.



    Clear your calendar! August 1st through August 3rd, the 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp with Suzanne in Dallas and online. There is no experience that can replace being in Dallas in person for the event, but a second option is joining online if you can't be there in person. Suzanne and LTM are working on the material right now, and as soon as the weekend's teaching is set, we will let you know. For now just go ahead and make those travel plans for Thursday, August 1 through Saturday, August 3rd!

    We wouldn’t be able to have bootcamp, workshops, cohorts, etc., without you! LTM is a 501c3 non-profit ministry, and your donations help us to keep workshops and resources affordable as well as fund scholarships for the Cohort program, teaching events, and maintenance and upkeep of The Micah Center. Visit to support the podcast and Life in the Trinity Ministry



    • "All You Need is Love", The Beatles (1967)
    • How I Met Your Mother (S3: E18)
    • FRIENDS (S5: E14)
    19 January 2024, 7:22 pm
  • 1 hour 22 minutes
    Jeff Crosby (9) - Spiritual Practice of Reading, Forgiveness, Language of the Soul

    If you're a fan of The Enneagram Journey then there is a good chance you're a fan of books. Today's episode is filled with good book talk because Suzanne's dear friend Jeff Crosby is on the show.

    Jeff, Enneagram Nine and author of The Language of The Soul, shares his experience as a 9, what forgiveness means to him, and much more.

    Find out more about Jeff at and click here to get your copy of The Language of The Soul.


    The Enneagram Journey podcast is produced by Life in the Trinity Ministry, a 501c(3) non-profit ministry. The podcast, workshops, Cohorts, and other enneagram and spiritual formation resources are made possible with your support and financial contributions. Click here to donate at or visit

    Thank you for your continued support of the podcast and LTM!



    • Shadowlands (1993, Richard Attenborough)
    • We're The Millers (2013, New Line Cinema)
    • The Office deleted scenes with Michael Scott
    • Bruce Cockburn, "Orders" live on eTown


    29 December 2023, 6:48 pm
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    December 2023 Q&A

    It's been a busy season, but The Enneagram Journey is back with a fantastic episode of Q&A with Suzanne, and a special appearance from Dr. Andy Stoker.

    CLICK HERE to ask a question for a future Q&A episode!


    • "Enneagram 7s Reframe, Enneagram 3s Restructure"
    • The Seventh Law of Emotional Triangles
    • What is nikhedonia?



    The 4 Mantras and The Holidays is Saturday, December 9th

    1. Show Up
    2. Pay Attention
    3. Tell the Truth
    4. Don't Attach to the Results

    Now do all of that and have a fun, bright, and beautiful holiday season! Maybe not so easy? Well this workshop can help!

    Register to join online from anywhere in the world. Registration includes access to the Live teaching, the replay if you can't make it on the 9th or need to pop in and out, as well as a free audio download of the workshop.

    More information and registration at


    Thank you for subscribing and listening to The Enneagram Journey Podcast.

    LTM is a 501c3 non-profit ministry, and your donations help us to keep the podcast ad-free, workshops and resources affordable, as well as fund scholarships for the Cohort program, teaching events, and maintenance and upkeep of The Micah Center. Your can donate to support the ministry at



    • Step Brothers (2008 Columbia Pictures)
    • Good Will Hunting (1997 Miramax)
    • Dr. Andy Stoker (December 2024 Q&A)
    4 December 2023, 5:21 pm
  • 1 hour 6 minutes
    Jason Miller (5) - Promiscuous, Non-Anxious, When The World Breaks

    You may know that Suzanne was introduced to the world of podcasting through friend of the show, Luke Norsworthy. Now Luke has introduced Suzanne to Jason Miller, Enneagram 5, pastor at South Bend City Church and author of When The World Breaks. We'll get a peek at their relationship and Jason's affection for all Sevens! What is it like to be an enneagram Five and a church planter? Are you a non-anxious individual? And, lets reexamine our feelings about the word promiscuous.

    “In our dualistic culture, a neutral stand is not appreciated.” - SS



    The 4 Mantras with Suzanne Stabile - at The Micah Center and Online

    1. Show Up
    2. Pay Attention
    3. Tell The Truth
    4. Don't Get Attached to the Results

    Saturday, December 9th at The Micah Center with an online option for those who can't make it in person. There is no better time to walk through and with these Mantras than leading into Christmas and the New Year. AND, there is no better person to learn them from than Suzanne.


    "I was reading Richard Rohr before it was cool." We heard that in this episode and immediately loved the phrase. So, why not put it on a super comfortable, tri-blend tee?! Get yours here before they sell out.

    Take the time and visit for more opportunities!


    • The Office (S7: E15)
    • It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (S10: E9)
    • Promiscuous by Nelly Furtado ft. Timbaland
    • Joe DeRosa, You Let Me Down, Feb. 2017
    24 October 2023, 5:57 pm
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Brian Lee (1) - Security Line, Perfect/Correct/Right, Broken to Beloved

    Enneagram Ones, have you named your Inner Critic?

    In this episode, Brian Lee shares his relationship with his Critic, as well as his journey from Broken to Beloved. Suzanne and Brian talk about Ennneagram One's relationship with Perfection and it what that my mean, and a great discussion about the line that Ones and Sevens share. This episode also includes a special appearance from Enneagram 8, Joey Schewee!


    The Road Back to You has sold over 1 Million copies! If you or someone you know needs a fresh copy, during the month of October LTM is selling personalized/signed copies of The Road Back to You for $13 (a Stabile lucky number). Visit and let Suzanne know who to sign it for and we'll get it headed your way. Early Christmas present?!

    Also, join LTM, Suzanne, and The Enneagram Journey for a celebration and live podcast recording at The Ivey Tavern in Dallas near Love Field airport on Friday, October 20th. The celebration is free to attend, but if you want to lock in a reserved seat, LTM has some available at Hope to see you there!


    1. The Critic, FOX 1995
    2. The Wedding Singer, New Line Cinema 1998
    3. One, Sleeping At Last, 2019
    4. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Warner Bros. 2004
    4 October 2023, 6:43 pm
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