The Ankler Podcast

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  • 33 minutes 41 seconds
    TV Tales: How ‘The Traitors’ Broke Through & Upended Reality

    In the final edition of this season’s Hollywood Stories, Richard Rushfield got to talk about "The Traitors" — a show of which he is an unapologetic superfan — with executive producer Mike Cotton, the man who brought it to both the U.K. and U.S. Originally a Dutch format, Traitors landed in Cotton’s hands when he snapped up the rights and then “took that idea and helped supersize it for a U.K. and U.S. audience,” as he puts it. Cotton shares how the show’s contestants get sucked into the game, why his team takes a “hands-off approach” to let the drama develop — and what might lie ahead for Peacock’s breakout hit. “What I love about this show is it’s a really rich world,” Cotton says. “We can take inspiration from murder mysteries, from thrillers, from horror movies, and we’re constantly thinking of what we can do different.”

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    18 June 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 38 minutes 48 seconds
    Creator Coup: CEO Neal Mohan on YouTube Beating Netflix Without Buying a Single Show

    Live from Cannes Lions, Ankler Media CEO Janice Min hosts a rollicking, wide-ranging conversation with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan about the platform’s growing dominance — both on TV screens and across culture — as ad dollars and audience swing decisively toward creators and away from traditional entertainment. Now that YouTube claims a larger share of TV viewership than Netflix, Mohan responds to Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos’ swipe that YouTube is for “killing time” while Netflix is for “spending time.” “Who am I to say what’s spending time, engaging time, quality time, killing time?” Mohan told a packed audience at ADWEEK House. “It’s all of us as consumers — the 2 billion people that come to YouTube every single day — we get to decide how to spend our time.” (YouTube Originals shut down in 2022 before Mohan took the CEO seat.) Other highlights: Mohan answers whether YouTube’s reported $2 billion per year NFL Sunday Ticket deal is paying off; teases plans for global sports rights expansion; and breaks down how the company has quietly captured massive podcast market share from Apple and Spotify. And stick around until the end — for his final swipe back at Netflix.

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    18 June 2025, 8:23 am
  • 30 minutes 1 second
    Swipe, Pay, Cry: A $5 Billion Boom in 60-Second Soaps

    Green shoots are rare in Hollywood these days, but some writers and actors are cashing six-figure checks in a format as questionable as its new Luigi Mangione series. Welcome to the world of microdramas: 60-second, phone-first serialized soap operas. Elaine Low, Sean McNulty and Natalie Jarvey unpack the sudden rise of white-hot vertical series. How is it not a punchline like Quibi? And what does it say about the other dreaded Q-word holding back Hollywood: quality? Plus, Dealmakers’ Ashley Cullins joins with a scoop on Apple’s new competitive performance-based pay model — and why Jon Hamm is competing with... Jon Hamm.

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    13 June 2025, 7:30 am
  • 39 minutes 36 seconds
    TV Tales: 'Penis, Penis, Penis, Me' — Comedy Legend Nell Scovell Tells All

    In this week’s Hollywood Stories, Richard Rushfield sits down with TV comedy legend Nell Scovell — creator of Sabrina the Teenage Witch and writer for everything from The Simpsons to Late Night with David Letterman.
    Before breaking into TV, Scovell sharpened her voice at Spy and Vanity Fair, where editors Kurt Andersen and Graydon Carter taught her to “be funnier, go harder, be meaner.” She shares how she defied her agent to leave Vanity Fair and dive into the boys’ club of TV writers rooms, a dynamic she was still battling decades later — even on The Muppets in the 2010s.
    She also opens up about her sharp, hilarious memoir Just the Funny Parts, which she jokes she really wanted to title, “Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Me, Penis.” (Scovell: "It would have sold more.") Richard calls it “one of the best memoirs of working in television I’ve ever read.”

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    11 June 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 1 hour 6 minutes
    TV’s Top Directors: ‘Good American Family,’ ‘Severance,’ ‘Zero Day’ & ‘The Pitt’

    In this bonus episode of The Ankler podcast, the second of two recorded live on May 18 at L.A.'s DGA Theater, The Ankler and the Directors Guild of America bring you a series of insightful and memorable conversations — presented by Threads — about the art of directing for television. You’ll hear Lesley Goldberg’s interview with Liz Garbus, who directed the pilot and the pivotal fifth episode of Hulu’s limited series “Good American Family,” and Elaine Low’s conversation with Jessica Lee Gagné, who made her directing debut on the second season of Apple TV+’s “Severance.” Katey Rich leads two Q&As — one with DGA president Lesli Linka Glatter, who helmed all six episodes of Netflix’s political thriller “Zero Day,” and a second with Damian Marcano and Amanda Marsalis, who each directed four episodes of HBO Max’s medical drama “The Pitt.” In addition to unpacking their process and craft, these five pros also share advice with the live audience about how to build a career as a director. “Be very drunk in yourself,” Marcano tells the crowd. “Don’t rob us of what you have to offer.”


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    11 June 2025, 7:30 am
  • 50 minutes
    TV’s Top Directors: ‘High Potential,’ ‘What We Do in the Shadows’ & ‘Hacks’

    In this bonus episode of The Ankler podcast, recorded live on May 18 at L.A.'s DGA Theater, The Ankler and the Directors Guild of America bring you a series of funny and memorable conversations — presented by Threads — about the art of directing for television. Lesley Goldberg interviewed Alethea Jones, who helmed the pilot for ABC freshman hit “High Potential”; Elaine Low spoke with Yana Gorskaya of FX's “What We Do in the Shadows”; and Katey Rich sat with Lucia Aniello of “Hacks” (who’s also co-showrunner of the HBO Max comedy). Despite the often loose tones of their shows, each of the directors emphasized the extensive prep on their end that’s required to make the storytelling work. “I write a novel on every episode of television I have ever done,” Gorskaya admits, “that tracks every character's wants, needs, desires, where we've been — and where we’re going.”


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    9 June 2025, 3:39 pm
  • 31 minutes 24 seconds
    Now Renting: 8 Million Sq Ft of Sadness

    L.A. may have lost its crown as the world’s production capital, but it’s still sitting on 8 million square feet of sound stages. So what to do with all that excess space? Think bar mitzvahs, weddings, YouTubers and cover shoots. Elaine Low, Sean McNulty and Natalie Jarvey explore how L.A.’s sound stages are the new dead malls and what that means for the future of production in LA., and who’s still filming locally (shoutout to Abbott Elementary and Grey’s Anatomy). Plus: What new layoffs at Disney and WBD mean.

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    6 June 2025, 7:30 am
  • 34 minutes 44 seconds
    The 'American Idol' Pastor Who Helped Katharine McPhee and More Stars Shine

    In this episode of Hollywood Stories: Tales From Television, Richard Rushfield takes us back to the heyday of the original “American Idol” in the aughts and early 2010s, when the Fox juggernaut dominated conversation everywhere from “Howard Stern” to the “Today” show and produced megastars like Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood. But there was one powerful figure behind the scenes whose quiet devotion touched future superstars from Katharine McPhee to Jordin Sparks: Pastor Leesa Bellesi. Through her American Idol Ministry, Bellesi not only prayed for the success of these contestants, but she also helped them and their families navigate the harsh spotlight of sudden fame that glared upon even the ones who didn't make it far. Richard chronicled Bellisi’s incredible journey in his 2011 book, “American Idol: The Untold Story,” and now, more than two decades later, they revisit it together as she recalls her spiritual connection with the show and its stars — from the Bible passage that bonded her with McPhee to a fateful prayer circle with judge Paula Abdul. "It was such a God thing," she tells Richard. "The prayers that I prayed in that room are living themselves out still to this day."

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    4 June 2025, 7:30 am
  • 31 minutes 36 seconds
    Mubi vs. Marvel: A New High-Stakes Film Era

    Big-name agents haven’t been this bullish on indie film in years, while Marvel can barely crack $450 million per movie. So what’s changed? Dealmakers’ Ashley Cullins joins Elaine Low and Sean McNulty to dissect why optimism surged out of Cannes, and how Mubi, fresh off a splashy $24 million acquisition for Jennifer Lawrence’s latest, is viewed as a market signal. Meanwhile, Sean weighs the quality issues and audience shifts plaguing Marvel and its budget catch 22. Plus: Why directors are the new IP, and whether Fantastic Four reboot can turn the Marvel tide.

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    30 May 2025, 7:30 am
  • 44 minutes 36 seconds
    Bruce Vilanch and the Wild World of 1970s Variety TV Spectaculars

    For the second episode of Hollywood Stories’ sophomore season, Richard Rushfield talks to the brilliant and bawdy Bruce Vilanch, known as the longtime joke purveyor extraordinaire for the Oscars (plus the Emmys, Tonys and more). But before he became the go-to for Hollywood galas, Vilanch got his start in writing for the big variety shows and specials that peppered the network schedules of the 1960s and ’70s and represent the height of television’s most flamboyant and unhinged period. Expanding on some of the wildest misadventures chronicled in  his new book, “It Seemed Like a Bad Idea at the Time,” Vilanch takes Richard through three of those song-and-dance spectaculars — the “Star Wars Holiday Special” that George Lucas famously disowned, the “Paul Lynde Halloween Special” and the short-lived series “The Brady Bunch Hour.” From writing material for graceless Wookiees to putting Robert Reed's Mike Brady in Carmen Miranda drag, Vilanch revels in how right it felt when everything went fantastically wrong. “It was ridiculous, but I had fun,” he recalls. “A lot of these things were conceived in clouds of smoke.”

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    28 May 2025, 7:30 am
  • 31 minutes
    Netflix, Disney+ & YouTube: The Fight to Babysit Your Kids

    Netflix just picked up Sesame Street, but this isn’t just about Elmo. It’s a calculated move in the high-stakes fight for kids’ attention — and future subscribers. Elaine Low, Natalie Jarvey and Sean McNulty dig into why streamers like Netflix and Disney+ are doubling down on branded kids content while others quietly exit, and why Paramount+ has untapped potential. From Miss Rachel to Bluey to Gabby’s DollhousePaw Patrol to PBS, this episode unpacks how the battle for the youngest viewers is reshaping strategy — and why it matters more than you think.

    Also: final thoughts on Final Destination, and a few bold and likely-to-be-regretted weekend movie plans, including Lilo and Stitch side-eye.

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    23 May 2025, 7:30 am
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