No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
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Public theology. Human flourishing. The good life.
- 47 minutes 55 seconds205: Sheryl Crow: Becoming Who She Always Was
After a stellar performance on No Small Endeavor Live, 9 time Grammy Winner Sheryl Crow sits down with Lee to discuss the tension between ambition and creativity, the profound realization that accompanied her breast cancer diagnosis, and the impact of mindfulness and meditation on her daily life. Crow also tells the story behind her posthumous duet with Johnny Cash, the social advocacy that has defined her career, and how embracing an unconventional life led her to motherhood. All that, plus Sheryl's musical performance at No Small Endeavor: Live! Join us as we explore the challenges and triumphs of over 3 decades in the public eye.
Show Notes
Resources:
The Sheryl Documentary
"Forever"
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21 April 2025, 10:00 am - 1 hour 2 minutes204: Unabridged Interview: Mike Cosper
This is our unabridged interview with Mike Cosper.
How do you raise criticisms about a group of which you consider yourself to be a member?
Mike Cosper hosted The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, a podcast critiquing a lot of the tendencies of American Christianity. “ People are looking at Christianity and saying, is it true?” he says. “I think where I landed after my own negative experiences was asking, is it good?”
In this episode, we cover some of the key issues such a question has raised for Mike - like celebrity culture and toxic masculinity - as well as what it’s like to do the work of insider critique in such a public role.
Show Notes
Resources:
The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill
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Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe
Katelyn Beaty: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church
Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne
Transcript of Abridged Episode
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How do you raise criticisms about a group of which you consider yourself to be a member?
Mike Cosper hosted The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, a podcast critiquing a lot of the tendencies of American Christianity. “ People are looking at Christianity and saying, is it true?” he says. “I think where I landed after my own negative experiences was asking, is it good?”
In this episode, we cover some of the key issues such a question has raised for Mike - like celebrity culture and toxic masculinity - as well as what it’s like to do the work of insider critique in such a public role.
Show Notes
Resources:
The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill
Similar NSE episodes:
Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe
Katelyn Beaty: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church
Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne
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This is our unabridged interview with Rainn Wilson.
Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica… and spirituality?
In a time of cultural division and political polarization, what role can spirituality play in healing our fractured world? Rainn Wilson—best known as Dwight Schrute from The Office—isn't just a comedy icon. He’s also become an unlikely voice for spiritual reflection in Hollywood, where such conversations are often taboo. In this candid and thought-provoking interview, Wilson opens up about why he believes our divided world desperately needs a renewed spiritual vocabulary—and what that might look like beyond traditional religion.
Show Notes
Resources:
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Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
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Transcript of Abridged Episode
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Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica… and spirituality?
In a time of cultural division and political polarization, what role can spirituality play in healing our fractured world? Rainn Wilson—best known as Dwight Schrute from The Office—isn't just a comedy icon. He’s also become an unlikely voice for spiritual reflection in Hollywood, where such conversations are often taboo. In this candid and thought-provoking interview, Wilson opens up about why he believes our divided world desperately needs a renewed spiritual vocabulary—and what that might look like beyond traditional religion.
Show Notes
Resources:
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Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
The Road to Character: David Brooks
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This is our unabridged interview with Marisa Franco.
How important is it to have friends?
Loneliness has reached epidemic levels in many countries, with research suggesting that it’s harder than ever for us to make and keep friends. And according to Marisa Franco, the issue isn’t trivial. “ Loneliness is as toxic for our bodies as smoking 15 cigarettes a day,” she says. “We are fundamentally social creatures… it's okay that you really want friends.”
In this episode, she explains why friendship is a crucial aspect of a flourishing life, and gives helpful advice for those looking to make and keep friends.
Show Notes
Resources:
The US Surgeon General’s Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community
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4 April 2025, 10:00 am - 47 minutes 59 seconds202: Marisa Franco: How to Make (and Keep) Friends According To Science
How important is it to have friends?
Loneliness has reached epidemic levels in many countries, with research suggesting that it’s harder than ever for us to make and keep friends. And according to Marisa Franco, the issue isn’t trivial. “ Loneliness is as toxic for our bodies as smoking 15 cigarettes a day,” she says. “We are fundamentally social creatures… it's okay that you really want friends.”
In this episode, she explains why friendship is a crucial aspect of a flourishing life, and gives helpful advice for those looking to make and keep friends.
Show Notes
Resources:
The US Surgeon General’s Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community
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Alexandra Solomon: How to Have Flourishing Relationships
Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion
Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection
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31 March 2025, 10:00 am - 1 hour 12 minutes201: Unabridged Interview: Drew Holcomb
This is our unabridged interview with Drew Holcomb.
”The scarcity of life is what gives it value,” says singer-songwriter Drew Holcomb. “If we all lived forever, there would be no sort of rush to love and rush to justice and rush to mercy and rush to know people.”
Drew’s new album, Memory Bank, co-created with his wife Ellie, is full of personal stories of love, resilience, mortality, and a strong but subtle social conscience. It was his father that inspired the title track on the album saying on their frequent family road trips that “ hope you guys don't expect to inherit anything. I put all my money in the memory bank.” Drew reflects on the impact this perspective has had on him, his art, and his faith.
Drew and Lee also share their excitement about going on tour together this spring, along with Malcolm Gladwell, for No Small Endeavor: Live.
Show Notes
Resources:
"The Last Sweet Mile" by Allen Levi
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28 March 2025, 10:00 am - 48 minutes 29 seconds201: Drew Holcomb: All My Money Is in the Memory Bank
”The scarcity of life is what gives it value,” says singer-songwriter Drew Holcomb. “If we all lived forever, there would be no sort of rush to love and rush to justice and rush to mercy and rush to know people.”
Drew’s new album, Memory Bank, co-created with his wife Ellie, is full of personal stories of love, resilience, mortality, and a strong but subtle social conscience. It was his father that inspired the title track on the album saying on their frequent family road trips that “ hope you guys don't expect to inherit anything. I put all my money in the memory bank.” Drew reflects on the impact this perspective has had on him, his art, and his faith.
Drew and Lee also share their excitement about going on tour together this spring, along with Malcolm Gladwell, for No Small Endeavor: Live.
Show Notes
Resources:
"The Last Sweet Mile" by Allen Levi
Similar NSE episodes:
Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss
Russ Taff: Music, Addiction, and Redemption
Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days
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24 March 2025, 10:00 am - 1 hour 2 minutes200: Unabridged Interview: Jacques Pépin
This is our unabridged interview with Jacques Pépin.
“Food is the great equalizer.”
This is the mantra that has fueled the career of Jacques Pépin, who is respected as one of the finest chefs in the world. It has led him to cook for presidents and in world-class restaurants, and inspired him to write over thirty books.
In this episode, he explains the role food plays in a flourishing life, describing how it breaks down barriers, builds community, and recalls us to ourselves, all while describing his own journey from a small French village to international culinary fame.
Show Notes
Resources:
“La Technique” by Jacques Pépin
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Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm
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Transcript of Abridged Episode
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“Food is the great equalizer.”
This is the mantra that has fueled the career of Jacques Pépin, who is respected as one of the finest chefs in the world. It has led him to cook for presidents and in world-class restaurants, and inspired him to write over thirty books.
In this episode, he explains the role food plays in a flourishing life, describing how it breaks down barriers, builds community, and recalls us to ourselves, all while describing his own journey from a small French village to international culinary fame.
Show NotesResources:
“La Technique” by Jacques Pépin
Similar NSE episodes:
Ben Cohen: Peace, Justice, Ice Cream
Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm
Peter Harris and Jo Swinney: A Place at the Table
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Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.
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