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Curtis Chang
- 43 minutes 44 secondsRace, Real Estate, and the Los Angeles Fires with Jasmin Shupper
How does the legacy of racial covenants impact housing equity and even fire recovery?
Host Curtis Chang welcomes Jasmin Shupper, visionary founder and CEO of Greenline Housing Foundation, to explore how racial injustice magnifies the impact of natural disasters. Together, they dive into the devastating effects of the LA fires—particularly the Eaton Fire in Altadena—where Black homeowners have faced disproportionate losses due to historical practices like redlining and racially restrictive covenants. Jasmin shares how her mission to close the racial wealth gap and prevent mass displacement offers a path toward real estate justice, resilience, and renewal. She also reflects on her personal journey from Chicago’s South Side to leading national efforts for housing equity and disaster recovery.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Remembering the subprime mortgage crisis
- 40 Acres and a Mule (video)
- Pasadena Community Foundation: the Altadena Builds Back Foundation
- Richard Rothstein’s The Color of Law
- Richard Rothstein on Fresh Air: How The U.S. Government Segregated America
- Stanford uses AI to find: Racially Restrictive Covenants
- Redlining in real estate: How discriminatory practices still affect Black communities
Aftermath of the Eaton Fire in Altadena:
- All Altadena Land Owners Impacted by Eaton Fire Have Turned in Right of Entry Forms
- Looting Fuels 250% Crime Surge in Fire-Devastated Altadena
- These theater kids rise from the ashes of the Eaton fire
More from Jasmin Shupper & Greenline Housing:
- Learn More about Greenline Housing Foundation
- Greenline’s work with Eaton Fire victims: https://greenlinehousing.org/eaton-fire/
- PBS features Greenline's work after the wildfires
- LAist features Greenline's development work to keep Altadena diverse
- CBS News features Greenline and real estate after the Eaton Fire
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8 May 2025, 8:00 am - 53 minutes 18 secondsTrump, Faith, and the First 100 Days with David French and Russell Moore
Is there a Christian response to our divided country?
Host Curtis Chang is joined by David French and Russell Moore to unpack what Trump’s agenda and executive actions demand from people of faith. From foreign policy chaos and attacks on democratic institutions to political fatigue and Christian witness, this conversation gets real about the cost of following Jesus in a divided America. Curtis, David, and Russell confront the pull of fear and apathy—and offer a better path rooted in truth, hope, courage, and acts of worship.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- New poll: millions of Trump voters regret their choice
- Here are the top 5 immigration changes from Trump's first 100 days
- Trump’s strange wording illustrates One-sided Ukraine peace plan
- David Whyte on Anxiety
- Thomas Merton’s Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander
- Harvard pledges reforms following internal reports on antisemitism
- Under pressure from Trump, Columbia plans its next move
- Transcript of Brown v. Board of Education (1954)
- Explainer Video: Brown v. Board of Eduction II Case Brief Summary
- Aurelius Augustine’s The City of God: Volume I (pdf)
- Phil Wickham’s What An Awesome God (Organic)
- Worship with Songs for The After Party
More From Russell Moore:
- Sign up for Russell Moore’s weekly newsletter Moore to the Point
- Listen to The Russell Moore Show (podcast)
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1 May 2025, 8:00 am - 50 minutes 13 secondsAndy Crouch: Political Crisis, Contempt, & the Fruit of the Spirit
How should Christians engage with political power in a divided world?
Contributor Andy Crouch joins Curtis Chang to trace a path from the courage of the early believers under Caesar to today’s crisis-driven politics and the ruling class. Together, they dive into the rise of emergency powers, growing contempt, and the breakdown of civil discourse—and offer a hopeful vision for how the Fruit of the Spirit can reshape both Christian posture and a public life rooted in love, gentleness, and faithfulness.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Explaining The Land of Israel Under Roman Rule
- Matthew 22:21 - "Render therefore unto Caesar..." (multiple versions and explanation)
- Explaining The Majesty of Herod’s Temple
- Augustus Caesar and the the title Divi filius, “son of a god” (audio)
- The Holy Roman Empire: The Rise of Medieval Europe (video)
- Tish Harrison Warren’s Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work or Watch or Weep
- Fact sheet about PEPFAR
- Wendell Berry’s The Hidden Wound
- Wendell Berry’s ‘The Hidden Wound’ at Fifty (article from 2020)
- Galatians 5:22 - Fruit of the Spirit (multiple versions and explanation)
More from Andy Crouch:
- Interact with Andy’s website
- Check out Andy’s work at Praxis
- Read Andy’s book: The Life We're Looking For
- Read Andy’s book: The Tech-Wise Family
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Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days
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24 April 2025, 8:00 am - 18 minutes 52 secondsFlannery O’Connor’s A Prayer Journal: Through the Darkness Toward Redemption
Can Literary Wisdom Counter Despair and Deepen Your Faith?
In this episode of Good Faith Presents: Reading to Make Sense of the World, Curtis Chang and author-professor Jessica Hooten Wilson explore the spiritual insights of Flannery O’Connor’s prayer journal. They examine how O’Connor’s raw honesty, humility, and startling imagery confront the modern obsession with self and offer a radical vision of divine grace. Jessica helps listeners see why O’Connor’s work is more than provocative—it’s prophetic.
Resources or references mentioned in this episode:
- Flannery O’Connor at 100
- Excerpts from Flannery O'Connor's journal (printed in The New Yorker)
- Flannery O’Connor’s A Prayer Journal
- Jessica Hooten wilson’s Flannery O'Connor's Why Do the Heathen Rage?: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at a Work in Progress
- A Life in Psychiatry and Literature: (an interview with Robert Coles)
- Good Faith episode featuring Amy Low (Facing Cancer with Humor and Hope)
- Good Faith episode featuring Nancy French (Ghosted: an American Story)
- What Is Kafkaesque? - The 'Philosophy' of Franz Kafka (video explainer)
More From Jessica Hooten Wilson:
- Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
- Explore Jessica’s books HERE
- Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE
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21 April 2025, 9:00 am - 45 minutes 17 secondsDouglas McKelvey Uncovers the Divine in Everyday Moments
How Can Mundane Moments Become Sacred Acts?
Host Curtis Chang welcomes Every Moment Holy author Douglas McKelvey for a special Holy Week conversation about how liturgical prayer can transform daily routines into sacred encounters. What if folding laundry or doing dishes could become moments of divine connection? As Easter approaches, Curtis and Douglas invite you to step into a deeper spiritual rhythm—where every moment pulses with holy meaning. Douglas also leads listeners in some liturgical prayers from his books.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- James K.A. Smith: You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit (video talk)
- James K.A. Smith’s You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit
- The 1928 U. S. Book of Common Prayer (pdf version)
- The Creed commonly called the Apostles’ Creed (pdf version)
- Evening Prayer (Sedona Rite) (including The Lord’s Prayer)
- Andrew Roycroft’s Substack: New Grub Street
More from Douglas McKelvey:
- Every Moment Holy Books & Prayers (The Rabbit Room)
- Douglas McKelvey’s Instagram
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Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days
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17 April 2025, 8:00 am - 39 minutes 44 secondsThe Spiritual Renaissance of Monastic Practices with Jared Patrick Boyd
Could modern monasticism and its role in today's church revitalize your faith?
Host Curtis Chang welcomes pastor and modern-day monastic Jared Boyd to explore the transformative power of modern monasticism. Discover how ancient spiritual practices are being revived through the Order of Common Life to renew the Church, strengthen clergy integrity, and address challenges that have led many toward deconstruction. Learn how intentional community and contemplative rhythms can foster deep spiritual growth and vibrant faith—offering a vision for the future of church renewal through monastic traditions.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- About St. Benedict of Nursia
- About St. Francis of Assisi
- Phyllis Tickle's Divine Hours
- Phyllis Tickle defines Fixed-hour prayer
- Book of Common Prayer (online version)
- Rule of St. Benedict (pdf)
- Ralph Winter (Ralph D. Winter Research Center)
- Mother Teresa’s A Dark Spiritual Life and Love of The Poor
More from Jared Boyd:
- Order of Common Life
- Jared’s website
- Jared’s Instagram
- Jared Boyd’s Finding Freedom in Constraint: Reimagining Spiritual Disciplines as a Communal Way of Life
- Jared Boyd’s Imaginative Prayer: A Yearlong Guide for Your Child's Spiritual Formation
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Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days
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10 April 2025, 8:00 am - 39 minutes 43 secondsForeign Aid Cuts and Innovative Stewardship with Dana & Bill Wichterman
How Can We Create Faith-Driven Solutions for a World in Need?
Host Curtis Chang sits down with Dana Wichterman, a former USAID and Department of Commerce development expert, and Bill Wichterman, a former special assistant to President George W. Bush, to explore how faith-driven impact investing can help fill the gap left by reduced U.S. government aid to the poor and vulnerable. They unpack practical ways Jesus followers can align their financial resources with their values, support global humanitarian efforts, and drive lasting change. Discover how people of all income levels can turn generosity into powerful, faith-fueled action.
Good Faith Live “Watch Party”:
Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Timeline of USAID dismantling
- An oral history of PEPFAR with Gov. Bill Frist (video)
- The Europe cuts foreign aid and development
- Department of State to resume PEPFAR programming
- Conspiracy theories are fuelling attacks on NGOs and aid workers
- The State of Church Giving: Church Trends and Statistics [2025]
- I Peter 4:10 (all translations)
- 2 Corinthians 9:5-15 NLT
- Historical Poverty Tables: People and Families:1959 to 2023
- Eric Ha (for TIME): Foreign Aid Is Retreating. The Church Must Not
- John Porter tells the story of Masaka Creamery (video)
- Haiti: Where Has All the Money Gone?
- Impact Investing Has Come of Age
- Why Christians Should Never Retire by Chris Cagle
Philanthropic and Investable Organizations Mentioned:
- TRUSTBRIDGE Global
- International Justice Mission
- The Gathering of Christians in Philanthropy
- Masaka Farms
- Impact Foundation
- Verdant Frontiers (Scott Friesen)
More from Dana & Bill Wichterman:
- www.stewardsnotowners.com
- Dana & Bill Wichterman’s book Stewards Not Owners: The Joy of Aligning Your Money with Your Faith
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3 April 2025, 8:00 am - 54 minutes 35 secondsCurtis Chang Answers Your Questions: Deconstruction, Worship Across Divides, and Life After Death
Thanks to your questions, Good Faith listeners are the guests of this episode that’s meant to spark spiritual insights and challenge church norms.
From queries about navigating belief in a politically toxic climate to finding community after deconstruction, Curtis answers your questions with thoughtfulness, wisdom, and compassion. Whether you’re wrestling with faith, curious about theology, or just want to know what’s on Curtis’ playlist, this episode delivers the answers that inquiring minds wanted to know.
Curtis addresses:
- How can someone who has deconstructed find meaningful, Christ-centered community?
- What role should the church play when professed followers of Jesus undermine the gospel?
- What does it mean that God "removes kings and sets up kings"?
- How can we love fellow church members who politically diverge from us?
- Is The After Party project truly nonpartisan—and how was it funded?
- Will artificial intelligence reshape sermon preparation?
- What will life be like in the new heavens and new earth?
Plus: Curtis reveals his five favorite musical artists and the name of the song that opens every Good Faith episode.
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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:
- Patrick Schreiner: Recovering the Forgotten Doctrine of Christ’s Ascension
- N.T. Wright: the Ascension of Jesus and Heaven
- N.T. Wright’s Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church
- The Thin Places of Fantasy
- The Nicene Creed
- The Lord's Prayer
- Philippians 3:18-21 (New Living Translation)
- Foreign Aid Is Retreating. The Church Must Not
- Judge: Musk and Trump’s effort to disband USAID is likely unconstitutional
- Daniel 2:21 (English Standard Version)
- 33 Evil Kings of the Old Testament
- I Samuel 8 (Israel asks for a king) (New Living Translation)
- Explore The After Party with Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang
- Answers to questions about The After Party
- Judah & the Lion’s Beautiful Anyway (official music video)
- Judah & the Lion’s website
- Wendell Kimborough’s website
- Sandra McCraken’s website
- Andrew Peterson’s website
- Dave Brubeck’s Time Out album (including Take Five)
- Dave Brubeck’s Fight Against Racism
- Herbie Hancock’s Watermelon Man
- Herbie Hancock’s Rockit
Enjoy this Spotofy playlist featuring the artists Curtis mentioned in this episode
Good Faith conversations mentioned in this episode:
- David French: Has America’s Role in the World Changed Forever? and Your Questions
- David French: Checks, Balances, and the New Trump Era
- Sandra McCracken: How Music Helps Us Make Sense of God's World
- Advent with Friends: Andrew Peterson and The Way of Love
- Andy Crouch: How to Listen to Music
- Andy Crouch: Do We Need a Worship Music Reformation?
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27 March 2025, 8:00 am - 49 minutes 15 secondsNavigating Anxiety in Political Storms with Steve Cuss
How can we stay grounded in an anxious political climate?
Leadership anxiety expert Steve Cuss joins the Good Faith Podcast to help us navigate Trump’s turbulent second term without becoming overwhelmed. We explore how chronic anxiety spreads through reactivity, why political leaders and their followers often amplify fear through straw man arguments, and how we can break free from the cycle. Drawing from his experience as a trauma chaplain and beyond, Steve shares practical tools for maintaining spiritual and emotional balance. If political division is making your mind race, heart pound, or body tense, Steve offers wisdom and encouragement to help you find calm and clarity in the chaos.
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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:
- Frederick Buechner’s Whistling in the Dark
- The Evangelical vote in 2024
- The Los Angeles Times: Is Donald Trump a new King David?
- “Remember the Lord” from Proverbs 3:6-16 GNT
- Jacob’s assurance from Genesis 28 NLT
- Jesus’ trial before Pilate John 18:28-40 NLT
- Paul’s trials before Festus and Felix Acts 24-26 NLT
- Jesus calls Herod a “fox” Luke 13:31-32 NLT
- Freedom to love others Galatians 5:13
- More about Gregory Boyle
More From Steve Cuss:
- Steve’s podcast Being Human
- Steve’s book Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs
- Steve’s book The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space between Our Beliefs and Experience of God
- Steve’s website (free access to the Life Giving List and Conscious List of Relationships)
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20 March 2025, 7:00 am - 56 minutes 36 secondsDavid French: Has America’s Role in the World Changed Forever? and Your Questions
Radical shifts in the United States are sending shockwaves abroad.
Host Curtis Chang welcomes back “founding friend” David French to examine how Trump’s foreign policy is reshaping America’s global standing. From strained alliances with Canada to shifting U.S. support for Ukraine, and the dismantling of USAID, David and Curtis explore whether the nation has abandoned its long-standing commitment to liberal democracy. Drawing from scripture, historical Christianity, and even the Declaration of Independence, they discuss the deeper implications of the current moment for America's national character and global trust.
Don’t miss the second half of this episode, where David French answers listener questions!
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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:
- The Truth About Fentanyl at the Canada-US Border
- Tariffs on Canada
- Colossians 1:15-17 (New Living Translation)
- The Declaration of Independence
- Michael Gerson's role in PEPFAR
- George W. Bush’s 2023 Op-Ed about the need for PEPFAR
- George W. Bush’s White House Office of Faith-based and Community Initiatives
- The Evangelical vote in 2024
- Listen to David’s NYT conversation with Jessica Riedl about DOGE and the deficit
- Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson’s Abundance
- Jake Meador’s Mere Orthodoxy article The Doom of Choice
- Jake Meador’s Mere Orthodoxy article Tolkien's Holy Fools
- Explore The After Party with Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang
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13 March 2025, 7:00 am - 49 minutes 43 secondsPete Wehner: Navigating Political Exile, Faith, and Identity
Everyone wants love and community in a fractured world. What happens when they are lost?
Host Curtis Chang and Pete Wehner, a columnist for The Atlantic and former White House staffer, explore the deep sense of political, cultural, and spiritual exile felt by many Americans. Reflecting on Pete’s journey from shaping policy during 9/11 to breaking from the Republican Party over Donald Trump, they discuss the challenges of shifting identities while staying true to one’s convictions. Drawing from the Psalms, cognitive psychology, and Christian history, they offer a vision for engaging culture and finding new purpose amid political disillusionment and feelings of living in exile, even in the place you call home.
This episode revisits a past conversation to examine cognitive dissonance and the pursuit of truth in times of uncertainty.
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Resources From This Episode:
- Psalm 126 (New Living Translation)
- Winston Churchill’s Painting as a Pastime
- A Short History Of The Dardanelles Campaign
- The GOP and the Birther Trap (article) by Pete Wehner
- Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion
- Jonathan Rauch’s The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth
- Jeremiah 29 (New Living Translation)
- Makoto Fujimura’s Culture Care: Reconnecting with Beauty for Our Common Life
- Mark Labberton’s talk: The Deep Work of a New Creation
- Mark Labberton’s talk: Beauty in Exile
- Rodney Stark (books)
- Russell Moore clip: “Jesus is a hood ornament”
- 2 Corinthians 5 New Living Translation
More From Pete Wehner:
- Read Peter Wehner’s latest article: MAGA Has Found a New Model
- Peter Wehner’s The Atlantic opinion pieces
- Peter Wehner at The Trinity Forum
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