Novelist, editor, and longtime friend of the pod Jonathan Vatner joins us to discuss his experience with a chronic autoimmune digestive condition, his ups and downs with diets and alternative medicine, nuances in the research on probiotics and acupuncture, the mind-body connection and how it’s helped in his healing, and more. Behind the paywall, we get into how he came to develop acceptance for his chronic illness, how he’s been able to take pleasure in food despite his digestive troubles, his appearance on Christy’s first podcast way back in 2014, how his relationship with food has evolved, the new novel he’s working on, and how he’s rethought wellness after everything he’s been through.

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Jonathan Vatner is the author of THE BRIDESMAIDS UNION (St. Martin's Press, 2022) and CARNEGIE HILL (Thomas Dunne Books, 2019). His fiction has earned praise from People, Town & Country, The New York Post, and the Los Angeles Review of Books. He is the managing editor of Hue, the magazine of the Fashion Institute of Technology, and teaches fiction writing at New York University and the Hudson Valley Writers Center. Learn more about his work at jonathanvatner.com.

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Christy answers an audience question about whether magnesium is really the panacea it’s made out to be—or whether it’s just another example of wellness-culture hype.

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Dietitian and author Jenna Hollenstein joins us to discuss her experience with alcoholism and recovery, the intersection of disordered eating and disordered drinking, the sobriety trend in wellness culture, Dry January, mindful drinking, “food addiction,” and more.

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Jenna Hollenstein, MS, RDN, CDN, is an anti-diet dietitian-nutritionist, certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, speaker, meditation teacher, and author of five books, including Eat to Love and Intuitive Eating for Life. She blends Intuitive Eating with mindfulness to help people transform food and body shame into joyful eating and movement.

Jenna received a BS in nutrition from Penn State University and an MS in nutrition from Tufts University. She has trained in numerous integrative modalities, including polyvagal theory, somatic self-compassion, trauma-sensitive mindfulness, and embodied social justice.

Jenna has spoken at universities, retreat centers, and extensively online for both consumer and clinician audiences. Her work has been featured in the The New York Times, Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, U.S. News & World Report, Yoga Journal, Health, Self, Lion’s Roar, Mindful, Vogue, Elle, Glamour, and Women’s World. Learn more about her work at jennahollenstein.com.

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What if disagreements and differences are a matter of risk perception? Plus: Is weight loss really the only way to be well?

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Anti-diet personal stylist Dacy Gillespie joins us to discuss diet and wellness culture, her bad experience with functional medicine (and what attracted her to it in the first place), how she’s dealing with her chronic symptoms now, and why she doesn’t think clothes should be “flattering.” Behind the paywall, we get into how to shop for clothes after your body changes, how to start discovering your authentic personal style beyond diet culture’s ideals, the advice that revolutionized Christy’s approach to fashion, the parallels between intuitive eating and fashion, and more.

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As a weight-inclusive, anti-diet personal stylist, Dacy Gillespie helps her clients reject fashion rules and ideal standards of beauty imposed by the patriarchy, white supremacism, and capitalism so that they can uncover their authentic style. Through their work building a functional wardrobe, Dacy’s clients make a mindset shift from thinking they need to wear what’s flattering to unapologetically taking up space in the world. 

After a lifetime of jobs in high-stress careers that didn’t suit her highly sensitive, introverted personality, Dacy started mindful closet in 2013 in an attempt to create a more emotionally sustainable lifestyle. Her work has been featured in Forbes, Real Simple, New York Magazine’s The Strategist, and Lifehacker, and she is a frequent podcast guest. Dacy lives with her husband and two children in St. Louis, Missouri.

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Christy answers an audience question about how to talk to people who swear by certain alternative-medicine treatments—especially when they push them on you.

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Christy shares answers she gave to a journalist writing a piece about Casey Means, a functional-medicine doctor, diet-book author, and wellness entrepreneur who has become a key advisor to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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Disordered-eating dietitian Katherine Metzelaar joins us to discuss her history with diet and wellness culture, how she developed orthorexia, how praise and compliments from others affected her behaviors, and the role of the internet in her relationship with food. Behind the paywall, we get into how orthorexia led her to become anti-vaccine and believe in conspiracy theories, how naturopathic doctors missed and compounded her problems, how she found her way to recovery from orthorexia and conspiracism, the sense of identity that comes along with perceived food sensitivities, and lots more.

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Katherine Metzelaar, MSN, RDN, is a relational nutrition therapist, registered dietitian, and certified intuitive eating counselor committed to revolutionizing how people connect to food and their bodies. As the founder and owner of Bravespace Nutrition, she helps individuals break free from the fear of food, uncovering the joy and pleasure it can bring to their lives. Katherine guides her clients in reclaiming their relationship with food, free from the restrictive rules of diet and wellness culture, teaching them how to nourish their bodies without the pressure of perfectionism. She also leads "You're Not Broken: A Women's Body Image Group That Will Transform The Way You See And Experience Your Body," where she fosters a supportive environment for women to heal their relationship with their bodies.  Katherine specializes in disordered eating, eating disorders, and body image challenges.

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Christy answers an audience question about whether artificial food colorings and other additives really have any impact on ADHD.

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Psychotherapist Asher Pandjiris joins us to discuss their experience with chronic illness and “autoimmune diets,” why they were attracted to naturopaths and other alternative-medicine providers, the role of values in people’s attraction to wellness culture, cultural healing traditions vs. cultural appropriation, their approach to working with orthorexia, and lots more. 

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Asher Pandjiris is a psychotherapist, Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy Provider, Disordered Eating Consultant and Co-Director of The Kintsugi Therapist Collective. They come to their work as a scholar of critical, psychoanalytic, and mindfulness-based theories. Asher has 14 years of experience working with issues related to trauma and its impact on the body and has published on the topics of intergenerational trauma transmission, the treatment of eating disorders, the wellness industrial complex, gender dysphoria, and clinician burnout. Find them at asherpandjiris.com and kintsugitherapistcollective.com. 

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Former anti-vaccine “crunchy mom” and current public-health nurse Lydia Greene joins us to discuss why she was susceptible to anti-vax messaging despite having a science background, how and why she developed orthorexia, how a chronic digestive disorder made her susceptible to “leaky gut” rhetoric, how her orthorexia affected her parenting, and more. Behind the paywall, we get into why she came to rethink her anti-vax stance, how she started to question wellness culture and heal from orthorexia, how her anti-vax views masked her son’s autism diagnosis, how she’s dealing with her digestive disorder now, and why she decided to become a public-health nurse and co-found Back to the Vax, a group devoted to vaccine advocacy.

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Lydia Greene is a married mother of three. She spent over a decade as an anti-vax crunchy mother when the pandemic made her reconsider her views. Her family is now fully vaccinated, and she recently graduated nursing school and has now become a vocal vaccine advocate. Learn more about her work at backtothevax.com.

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Christy's second book, The Wellness Trap, is available wherever books are sold! Order it here, or ask for it in your favorite local bookstore.

If you're looking to make peace with food and break free from diet and wellness culture, come check out Christy's Intuitive Eating Fundamentals online course.