Ep. 223: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Rick Torres (@rick-torres).

My guest on this episode is Rick Torres, CEO and co-founder of Applikate Technologies, a digital pathology hardware and software business with a device that can examine tissue many multiples faster than traditional physical slide processes can today. I find this company fascinating given the life science and data element of the business and loved diving into the science behind pathology and how Applikate is making it so much more efficient.

Rick and I talk about the digitization of pathology, where efficiencies are gained through their platform, the process for FDA approval, and what Rick’s learned building and leading teams as CEO.

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Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:52) - What is Applikate?

(00:13:41) - Labor dynamics for histology

(00:16:37) - Do you need to be a histotechnologist to use the machine?

(00:22:33) - What are the key benefits of this faster process?

(00:27:16) - Where are you storing tissue data and what is it used for?

(00:33:16) - What are the steps for gaining FDA approval?

(00:44:17) - How does this timeline affect recruiting?

(00:47:00) - What have you learned about managing and growing teams?

(00:50:47) - What advice has stuck with you most?

(00:52:11) - What skill are you working on improving?

(00:54:14) - What brings you energy?

(00:55:56) - Leadership philosophies

Ep. 222: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Dan Cremons (@DanCremons).

My guest today is Dan Cremons, author of Winning Moves, 105 Proven Ways to Create Value in Private Equity-Backed Companies, and founder of Accelera Partners where he focuses on helping private equity groups unlock people-powered value creation. Dan started at Alpine Investors for 12 years before leaving in 2021 to found Accelera, and his book is an incredibly thorough documentation of everything he learned about the private equity playbook and how it needs to evolve.

Dan and I talk about the five buckets of value creation and what the biggest drivers are, what great value creation looks like at a PE firm and company level, traps for first-time CEOs, and interviewing executives to make sure you have the right team in place.

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Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:13) - Dan’s career background and learnings from Alpine

(00:13:29) - How the Private Equity playbook has changed over time

(00:16:23) - What a 10/10 PE firm looks like

(00:25:40) - Categories of winning moves

(00:30:21) - What have been your biggest learnings about revenue growth?

(00:39:05) - First-time CEO traps

(00:46:36) - Identifying priorities

(00:53:39) - Alex’s perspective on finding focus

(00:58:58) - Dan’s formative experiences

(01:07:42) - Evaluating management teams

(01:15:36) - Upskilling team members

(01:20:02) - Winning the first few weeks in the CEO role

Ep.221: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Moises Eilemberg (@Meilemberg).

My guest is Moises Eilemberg, CEO of XiltriX, a 24-7 life science asset monitoring business that started 5 years ago with 36 employees today and growing swiftly. Moises is unique in that this is his second time as a CEO, his first being back in 2006 when he acquired a healthcare revenue cycle management company Avadyne, which he ran for 11 years before exiting, making 4 add-on acquisitions during that time.

Moises has a ton of experience to share leading teams, improving unit economics, building sales orgs, and managing the change that comes with integrating add-on acquisitions.

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Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:20) - Moises’ career & XiltriX

(00:07:02) - Becoming comfortable with the CEO role

(00:09:33) - When did you start acquiring companies?

(00:12:35) - How did your integration process change as you acquired more companies?

(00:22:14) - Is there a reason you chose to be in this industry?

(00:25:27) - What is the state of your market today?

(00:29:12) - Is the market fragmented to a point where there are M&A opportunities?

(00:31:40) - What’s driving the biologics growth over the past few years?

(00:33:30) - What did you apply from your experience at Avadyne into XiltriX?

(00:36:44) - What was your experience setting Sales comps?

(00:42:57) - What levers have you used to improve unit economics?  

My guest today is Tom Klein, former Morningside Co-CEO alongside recent podcast guest Roland Lessard. This episode with Tom acts as a part two pairing with our February episode with Roland where we talked about M&A value creation after close. Tom and I today discuss M&A value creation largely pre-close of add-ons, talking through industry selection, sourcing methodologies, industry knowledge snowballs, building a reputation, and working with lender partners. Tom has been involved in 12 M&A transactions across Morningside and his previous experience in background screening.

As an aside to you the listener, I’m really enjoying recent discussions on M&A value creation and consolidation strategies. If this is an expertise of yours or someone you know, I’d love to connect and chat more so please reach out.

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Greenwich Point Capital

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:37) - Deep focused search approaches vs. scattershot approaches

(00:11:18) - What numbers and measurements do you use when determining interest in an industry?

(00:20:42) - How do you think about proof of success when examining companies within an industry?

(00:28:29) - What are some of your favorite ways to research an industry?

(00:34:11) - What are the key characteristics of a business you need to see when acquiring?

(00:39:47) - What are some industries you were close to investing in but passed on? 

(00:43:50) - What do you start looking for once you’ve finalized a platform acquisition?

(00:54:50) - What are some key questions you ask sellers? 

(01:01:35) - What do you look for in lenders?

(01:18:30) - Advice for folks pursuing consolidation thesis’

The intersection of media and data has been the top idea on my mind for quite some time now. And my guest today, Craig Fuller, runs one of the best modern examples of this concept in action. FreightWaves, founded in 2016, is a media and data company focused on trucking, freight, supply chains, and all things logistics. To date, they have raised $91 million, will hit $42 million in revenue this year, split 55/45 between data and media, and have a valuation of between $300 and 400 million today.

Craig’s work building FreightWaves has been an invaluable model for my work at HW Media as Chief of Staff with CEO Clayton Collins and the rest of our team. Conversations like this one have been instrumental in our discussions on the future of HW Media as an all-things housing media business. But we, and especially myself, also believe this model, this intersection of media and data can be a replicable strategy across industries.

The goal of my episode with Craig today was to better understand how media and data can work together to create transformative companies, and I’m grateful for Craig’s willingness to share his experience and expertise. Throughout the episode, we talk about what data sets to focus on first in an industry and how to build around them, developing the product roadmap, the media data flywheel, hiring effective editorial and sales teams, and the investor perception of FreightWaves. Enjoy.

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FreightWaves

The Economics of Data Businesses by Abraham Thomas

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:05:08) - Why do media companies typically misunderstand ‘data’ and data companies?

(00:07:51) - How did the Media & Data arms of FreightWaves impact each other as you built this business?

(00:13:44) - When you think back about creating high-frequency data, how did you approach building it for FreightWaves?

(00:18:32) - Where has the bulk of your capital gone in building the company?

(00:28:02) - How do you think about expanding your data sets going forward?

(00:32:50 - Who is involved in your product development process?

(00:38:44) - How did you two sides of your business interact in the early days, and has that changed over time?

(00:50:12) - How do you attract high-quality talent?

(00:54:56) - How do you structure your sales teams? How do you think about pricing?

(01:02:01) - What’s the investor perception of businesses running on Media & Data?

Ep. 218: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Henry Schuck (@HenryLSchuck).

My guest today is Henry Schuck, founder and CEO at ZoomInfo, one of the most successful data businesses in recent times with a market cap today around $12B. I’ve been looking forward to this podcast for a long time because Henry has proven to be an effective founder, acquirer, and public CEO capital allocator, which is a rare combination of skills to find in a single CEO. He’s thought very deeply about building high performing organizations, sales functions, and how his own role needs to evolve as the company grows.

We talk through lessons learned building vs acquiring capabilities, M&A and integration lessons learned, fixing problems with a process vs culture approach, and how data businesses will succeed in the future

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Zoominfo

Henry on X

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:49) - What would you focus on if you were running Boeing?

(00:07:26) - How have you seen other CEOs solve culture vs. process problems?

(00:12:47) - How do you approach hiring?

(00:20:28) - How can you incentivize employees to buy into company values?

(00:23:11) - What have you learned working with investors and other CEOs to be a great founder and M&A executive?

(00:26:52) - How do you incorporate new tools or partners into Zoominfo?

(00:33:53) - What have you learned about integrating acquired companies?

(00:36:24) - How do you get a conviction when doing due diligence on a potential acquisition?

(00:38:49) - What skills around M&A are you looking to improve?

(00:41:19) - How will data companies in the future succeed?

Ep.217: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Mike Stone (@michael-stone).

My guest today is Mike Stone, CEO of CertaPro Painters, the largest painting company in North America structured as a franchise with 370 owners across 500 territories and over $700m in revenue. Their goal is to become a $1B company shortly and a $2.5B revenue company by 2032. The painting industry is a $60B industry growing modestly and is highly fragmented, making this an interesting industry to explore given the lack of similarly-sized national competitors.

Mike and I talk about why the industry is so fragmented, the tailwinds behind the industry, what needs to evolve and grow to hit their growth goals, and how CertaPro builds a differentiated playbook within home services.

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CertaPro

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:26) - Mike’s path to the CEO of CertaPro

(00:09:16) - Meeting Herb Kelleher

(00:11:25) - Where does your company stand today among competition?

(00:13:14) - What is holding back your competition from scaling like you?

(00:14:54) - Is it faster growing under a franchise model?

(00:19:52) - Are there other consolidators chasing talent?

(00:22:37) - What has become harder as you’ve grown?

(00:26:59) - Successful meeting structures

(00:29:24) - What data do you value for marketing?

(00:32:22) - How does seasonality affect business?

(00:33:43) - What else do you need to build to scale to your goals?

Ep.215: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Ayman Al-Abdullah (@aymanalabdul).

My guest today is Ayman Al-Abdullah, former CEO of Appsumo and now executive coach to other ambitious CEOs looking to scale 7 and 8-figure businesses past $100m, Ayman’s specialty. I love learning from CEOs who’ve made that journey and can share key lessons and takeaways, and Ayman fits that to a “T.” He’s also a Durham native, which is where my wife and I will be moving to this summer so we had some fun talking about his move from Austin.

Ayman and I talk about chokepoints in a company’s growth, habits that made him successful at Appsumo, why he stepped down as CEO, and how other ambitious CEOs can be more effective in their leadership roles.

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Ayman's website

How to Make a Few Billion Dollars by Brad Jacobs

The Accountant Trailer

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:20) - Leaving AppSumo to pursue coaching

(00:12:28) - What was the most informative experience for you in the CEO role?

(00:14:27) - What gets companies over the $7m hurdle?

(00:18:26) - What culture questions do you enjoy asking?

(00:24:03) - Improving the Sales role

(00:25:50) - Who was the best salesperson you ever hired?

(00:27:38) - Skills you need vs. what can be taught in sales

(00:31:34) - Have you reflected on whether you were born to be a CEO?

(00:34:44) - What have you found that helps CEOs succeed in the role?

(00:37:29) - Weekly journaling and exercise rituals

(00:42:30) - Ayman’s 25-year vision

(00:50:57) - Do you study other CEOs?

(00:53:25) - The hero’s journey

(01:02:41) - What’s something you’re passionate about?

Ep.214: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Dennis Dresser (@DennisDresser).

My guest today is Dennis Dresser. Dennis was a sales leader at IBM and Oracle and became CRO at Anaplan and Dialpad before taking on an advisory role with companies looking to develop best-in-class sales organizations. Throughout his career, he’s developed a playbook for creating these high-performing sales teams and has thought deeply about talent management, performance management, and implementing better processes.

This episode dives into some of that playbook along with characteristics to look for in hiring great sales leaders, scaling sales orgs, sales qualification methodologies, and so much more.

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JMI Equity

Dennis on LinkedIn

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:17) - Career lessons learned

(00:06:27) - Evolving a Sales Team

(00:08:14) - Churn impacts

(00:10:10) - The high-performance sales framework

(00:14:28) - Characteristics of successful Salespeople

(00:15:58) - Hiring in Sales

(00:18:29) - Is there one skill or quality you’ve been able to coach up?

(00:21:17) - The Sales Qualification Methodology

(00:23:50) - What are some effective ways to involve those outside of Sales in the process?

(00:25:43) - Where do you see Sales Teams most often get stuck?

(00:29:15) - Characteristics of a high-performing prospecting function?

(00:32:14) - The future of content marketing

(00:35:04) - Advice to CEOs and heads of Sales teams

Ep.213: Alex (@aebridgeman) is joined by Armon Petrossian (@ArmonPetrossian).

My guest today is Armon Petrossian, co-founder and CEO of data transformation company Coalesce, built on Snowflake’s ecosystem. Armon and I kick off talking about his time in China and learning Mandarin in undergrad, and move through topics like building within Snowflake’s, nuances in selling to enterprises, hiring in sales, opportunities in data, and navigating challenging topics with a co-founder.

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Armon on X

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:54) - Experiences living in China

(00:09:59) - Founding Coalesce

(0012:14) - How does Data Transformation work?

(00:13:46) - Choosing to build around SnowFlake

(00:20:01) - What other opportunities arise as data becomes more abundant?

(00:22:41) - Where are you investing capital right now?

(00:23:49) - What evolution does your sales team need to make right now?

(00:27:39) - What’s a typical sales cycle for you?

(00:29:54) - What have you learned about selling to enterprises that people often struggle with?

(00:31:36) - Navigating political dynamics or relationships

(00:33:02) - What do you look for in new sales hires?

(00:35:11) - What have you become passionate about within building the company?

(00:38:32) - How do you handle disagreements with your co-founder?

(00:42:00) - What works for retaining engineers?

(0044:54) - What companies do you admire?

(00:45:30)- Advice to other data founders

Ep.212: Alex Bridgeman (@aebridgeman) is joined by Sieva Kozinsky (@sievakozinsky).

My guest on this episode is Sieva Kozinsky, co-founder of Enduring Ventures, a holding company founded in 2019 with 17 acquisitions to date. Sieva and I met at a dinner following the Berkshire Hathaway meeting in Omaha, his first time attending the meeting. A theme from our first conversations in Omaha that continues through this episode is long-term thinking being a huge advantage, and that compounding happens everywhere. Reputation, lessons, and learning - well beyond capital alone.

Given that our guest last week, Eric Jorgenson, is the CEO of one of Enduring's companies, I thought this would be a timely episode to bring back to the top of the feed

We talk about Sieva’s background as a founder and how it impacts his role at Enduring Ventures, how he discovered he is a better buyer than a builder, great companies and founders he’s studied and taken lessons from, and much more. Enjoy!

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Enduring Ventures

Founders Podcast

Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller by Ron Chernow

The Gambler: How Penniless Kirk Kerkorian Became the Greatest Deal Maker in Capitalist History by William Rempel

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:27) Belief Documents

(00:09:13) Long-termism trends

(00:11:57) Takeaways from the Berkshire Event

(00:20:36) Helping employees & executives think and behave like an owner

(00:26:17) Being a Buyer vs. Builder

(00:33:08) Culture Index

(00:35:55) The importance of having experience as a founder/operator to succeed at Enduring

(00:44:50) Perretto Prinicples

(00:54:17) Habits, tactics, and learnings from biographies on great founders and companies

(01:08:46) What strongly held belief have you changed your mind on?

(01:10:06) What’s the best business you’ve ever seen?