If you’ve ever wondered how to make nutritious food taste amazing or what foods boost your health by supporting your gut microbiome, then you’re going to love today’s episode!

Our guest is Desiree Nielsen, a plant-based recipe developer, podcaster, author, and registered dietitian with a focus on plant-based nutrition and gut health. In her new book, "Plant Magic: A Celebration of Plant-Based Cooking for Everyone," Desiree offers a wonderful collection of creative recipes that make incorporating more plants into your diet easy, convenient, and delicious.

If you're a returning listener, you might recall Desiree from her insightful appearance on episode 185, where she shared invaluable knowledge about the gut-brain connection, maintaining healthy inflammatory responses, and the truth about getting enough protein through plants. However, there's still so much more to explore, which is why we're thrilled to welcome her back to the show!

Tune in as Desiree dives deeper into the world of plant-based cuisine, gut health, and so much more. Get ready to be inspired and empowered on your journey to vibrant health!

“Our symptoms typically coincide with, ‘Oh, I ate a meal, and all of a sudden I feel so bloated, or I feel really gassy.’ We immediately blame the food. That’s our first thought with digestive health. And so much of the information that we receive online, you know, talks about, ‘Oh, well, if you’re gassy, that means you must be inflamed, and so you have to remove x, y, and z.’ There are a lot of different causes of bloating and gas, and otherwise, digestive troubles that actually have nothing to do with food.” - Desiree Nielsen

What we discuss in this episode:

- Desiree’s secrets to infuse your plant-based cooking with mouth-watering flavors.

- Common causes of bloating and tips to decrease bloating.

- How to introduce more fiber into your diet.

- Stress, the digestive system, and how to develop better gut health.

- Desiree’s family’s favorite recipes from her new book.

- Getting a variety of healthy foods in your diet.

- Healthy fats and nutrient absorption.

Resources:

- Desiree Nielsen’s website: https://desireerd.com/

- Her new book: Plant Magic: A Celebration of Plant-Based Cooking for Everyone: Nielsen, Desiree - https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Magic-Celebration-Plant-Based-Everyone/dp/0735244901

- Instagram: Desiree Nielsen RD (@desireenielsenrd) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/desireenielsenrd/

- YouTube: Desiree Nielsen RD - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/desireenielsenrd

- Twitter/X: Desiree Nielsen RD (@DesireeRD) / X - https://twitter.com/desireerd?lang=en

- Switch4Good podcast episode #185: How to Get a Good Gut with Dietitian Desiree Nielsen - https://switch4good.org/how-to-get-a-good-gut-with-dietitian-desiree-nielsen/

- BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good - http://bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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Today, we’re joined by Dr. Christopher Gardner, a renowned nutrition researcher and Professor of Medicine at Stanford University. In this episode, Dr. Gardner shares his wealth of knowledge and valuable insights into nutrition science, from dissecting popular diets like ketogenic vs. Mediterranean to discussing his groundbreaking study on cardio-metabolic effects in identical twins randomly assigned to vegan or omnivorous diets, featured in the Netflix documentary "You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment." 

Throughout the episode, we delve into Dr. Gardner's research, uncover the truth behind diet trends, and hear his practical advice for achieving optimal health.

“So the basic design is it's a randomized dietary trial. It happened to be identical twins, which was very unusual. I've never done it before. Identical twins are absolutely hilarious, but the two diet choices that they had to be willing to be part of either way, whichever way the coin was flipped, was a vegan or an omnivorous diet. And I want to clarify just for kicks here, a healthy vegan and a healthy omnivorous diet. There's a lot of bad ways to do any diet, and good ways, or better or worse, for any diet that you want to be on. When we looked at the metabolic risk factors, we had signed up on clinicaltrials.gov stating that LDL cholesterol was our primary outcome. And that dropped by about 15 milligrams per deciliter, more so in the vegans than the omnivores. We also saw a drop in insulin. We saw a drop in weight. Decrease in trimethylamine oxide. Their biological clocks got a little bit younger. Their telomeres stayed a little bit longer if they were vegans.” - Dr. Christopher Gardner

What we discuss in this episode: 

- Telomeres, veganism, and longevity.

- Chronological age vs metabolic age.

- What fuels your brain?

- Healthy foods and weight loss.

- What makes a protein high quality?

- Dr. Gardner’s thoughts on intermittent fasting.

- Fermented foods and the microbiome.

- Microbial diversity and inflammation.

- Dr. Gardner’s recommendations for living a healthy life at a healthy weight.

Resources:

- Nutrition Studies Research Group | Stanford Medicine - https://med.stanford.edu/nutrition.html

- Dr. Gardner’s Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/GardnerPhD - https://twitter.com/GardnerPhD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

- Instagram: Christopher Gardner (@cgardnerphd) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/cgardnerphd/

- YouTube: Stanford Nutrition - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@StanfordNutrition

- Watch You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment | Netflix Official Site - https://www.netflix.com/title/81133260

- BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good - http://bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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In this episode, we welcome Dr. Rachael Hunter, a distinguished clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in psychology at Swansea University. Dr. Hunter joins us to delve into her groundbreaking research on "Plant-based Recovery from Restrictive Eating Disorders." Drawing from her wealth of experience working closely with individuals grappling with eating disorders, Dr. Hunter offers valuable insights into the transformative potential of plant-based diets in promoting recovery.

Throughout our conversation, Dr. Hunter shares her deeply personal journey, including her courageous battle against Multiple Sclerosis. We explore the intricate connections between nutrition and mental health, gaining valuable insights into how a plant-based diet can nourish not only the body but also the mind and spirit. 

“When I was diagnosed, I came across all of this research, and luckily for me, Professor Jelinek had pulled that work together into the Overcoming MS program. So there were dietary recommendations around a whole food plant-based diet, and the program also includes stress management, which is anti-inflammatory. So meditation, mindfulness, and regular exercise. I came across that program, and that was really what led me to change my diet immediately to pretty much plant-based.” - Dr. Rachael Hunter

What we discuss in this episode: 

- How plant-based eating can improve one’s relationship with food.

- Dr. Hunter’s symptoms before being diagnosed with MS.

- The connection between inflammation and MS.

- The lifestyle changes Dr. Hunter made after her diagnosis and the results of those changes.

- How the human body responds to optimism.

- Stress and the nervous system.

- The importance of removing toxicity from one’s life.

Resources: 

- Overcoming MS: https://overcomingms.org/live-well/circles/

- Instagram: Dr Rachael Hunter (@drrachaelhunter) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/drrachaelhunter/

- Twitter/X: Rachael Hunter 💙 (@drrachhunter) / X - https://twitter.com/drrachhunter

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Today, we're diving into the world of sustainable, mouthwatering cuisine with none other than the culinary visionary herself, Carleigh Bodrug.

Carleigh's journey is nothing short of inspiring. Growing up on a farm where meat reigned supreme, she later discovered the alarming truth about red and processed meats being classified as carcinogens by the World Health Organization. This revelation, coupled with her personal experience of her father's battle with colon cancer, propelled her toward a transformative shift in her diet. Fast forward to today, and Carleigh has become a household name, captivating millions with her blog, Plant You, and her latest cookbook, "PlantYou: Scrappy Cooking: 140+ Plant-Based Zero-Waste Recipes That Are Good for You, Your Wallet, and the Planet."

Now, what sets Carleigh's cookbook apart? Well, it's all about scrappy cooking—making delicious, nutritious meals while minimizing food waste. Ever wondered how to turn those food scraps into culinary gold? Carleigh's got you covered!

So join us as we explore plant-based recipes that not only tantalize your taste buds but also make a positive impact on your wallet and the planet!

“Food waste creates more emissions than the airline industry. So that gives you a scale of how much impact this has. And then sort of your mind goes to, okay, where is this waste coming from? Is it restaurants? Is it grocery stores? Is it happening on farms? And shockingly, the largest percentage is in consumer’s homes. So I felt really, as a plant-based food vlogger, that I needed to talk about this. So, one day, I threw up a candied orange peel recipe, and it was really funny because whenever I put up a video, I kind of walk away from it because I don’t want to know what the first reaction is. I get very nervous. So I walked away from my phone, and I came back to it about a couple hours later, and it had a non-exaggerated million views.” - Carleigh Bodrug

What we discuss in this episode:

- How food waste contributes to global warming. 

- The destructive power of methane vs. carbon dioxide.

- Carleigh’s tips to reduce food waste and save money.

- Aquafaba and its uses.

- How to make an amazing broth.

- Making use of seeds.

- How to make delicious vegan bacon.

- Growing food from food scraps.

Resources:

- PlantYou: https://plantyou.com/ - https://plantyou.com/

- Instagram: Carleigh Bodrug (@plantyou) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/plantyou/?hl=en

- YouTube: Carleigh Bodrug - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiE57zg8KxrZpV_eWMjluVA

- Twitter/X: Plant You (@carleighbodrug) / X - https://twitter.com/carleighbodrug?lang=en

- Facebook: PlantYou - https://www.facebook.com/PlantYouBlog/

- Carleigh’s new cookbook: Scrappy Cookbook - https://scrappycookbook.com/

- BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good - http://bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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Our extraordinary guest today is a true adventurer at heart. From hang gliding to paragliding, from flying small planes to training for the US Olympic team as a luger, Caroline Paul’s life is a series of thrilling escapades.

As one of the first female firefighters in the San Francisco Fire Department, Caroline faced challenges head-on. Her autobiography "Fighting Fire" chronicles her remarkable 13-year journey with the department as one of 15 women out of 1500 men. She was also the very first woman on the Rescue team, which was tasked with getting people out of collapsed buildings and finding bodies in the bay. These days, she takes to the skies in a gyrocopter, surfs the San Francisco Bay, and zips through the city streets on her electric skateboard – proving age is just a number.

With seven books under her belt, including a New York Times bestseller, Caroline explores the intersection of outdoor adventure and aging in her latest work, "Tough Broad: From Boogie Boarding to Wing Walking, How Outdoor Adventure Improves Our Lives as We Age.”  Through science-backed insights and inspiring stories of women in their 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and even 90s, she shows us that the best adventures lie ahead.

Join us as we discuss Caroline's latest book, delving into the exhilarating world of outdoor adventure and discovering how it enriches our lives as we age. Get ready to be inspired!

“People have come up to me and said it starts as young as 40 or even 30, that our older age is going to be a time of frail bones, cognitive decline. We're going to be boring. We're going to, we're becoming culturally irrelevant. And why this is so dangerous is because, well, first of all, we start pulling back, but second of all, it really makes us dread our own aging journey.” - Caroline Paul

What we discuss in this episode:

- The five pillars for fulfilling aging. 

- What inspired Caroline to write Tough Broad.

- The health benefits of outdoor adventure.

- How mindset about aging can predict how we’ll age.

- The power and importance of experiencing awe.

- How novelty keeps your brain healthy.

- What does using GPS do to your memory?

- How to unearth your inner explorer.

Resources:

- Caroline Paul’s website: Caroline Paul - https://www.carolinepaul.com/

- Her new book: Tough Broad — Caroline Paul - https://www.carolinepaul.com/tough-broad

- Her TED Talk: Caroline Paul: To raise brave girls, encourage adventure | TED Talk - https://www.ted.com/talks/caroline_paul_to_raise_brave_girls_encourage_adventure

- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolinembpaul/

- Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/carowriter

- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/caroline.paul.750/

- BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good - http://bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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Today, we welcome back Dr. Melanie Joy, a renowned psychologist, author, and advocate for compassionate living. Dr. Joy is the president of Beyond Carnism, a non-profit organization exposing and transforming the invisible belief system that shapes our attitudes toward eating and torturing animals. Her groundbreaking concept, “carnism,” has sparked global conversations about the psychology behind meat consumption and its consequences.

Dr. Joy is also the author of 6 books, and she appeared on our show in episode 52 to discuss her best-seller Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows, which unravels how societal conditioning influences our affection for some animals while accepting others as food sources. Today, she’s here to discuss her new book, How to End Injustice Everywhere, and her new website, infighting.org, which addresses internal conflicts within social justice movements and other organizations.

Throughout her career, Dr. Joy’s work has inspired us to question cultural norms and make conscious choices that align with our deepest values.

So, tune in for an enlightening discussion as we examine the interconnected nature of injustice and learn how we can all work together harmoniously toward a future rooted in empathy and equity!

“Over the years, as I've done more work on, you know, talking about carnism, raising awareness about carnism, building out my work on, you know, healthy relationality and relationships. I started to think more and more and more about what the psychology, not just of carnism, but the psychology of injustice more broadly looks like. And so I wrote how to end injustice everywhere really to shed light on the common structure of all unjust systems – patriarchy, racism, you know, classism. They can be smaller systems as well, toxic workplaces, abusive or dysfunctional relationships, and also to shed light on the common mentality that drives them.” - Dr. Melanie Joy

What we discuss in this episode: 

- What inspired Dr. Joy’s new book?

- The common denominator that all injustices share.

- The importance of “relational literacy.”

-The formula for healthier relationships.

- Changing your intentions to transform your conversations with others.

- Tips to stop causing disconnection in your relationships.

- How to reduce anger quickly.

- The emotion most likely to destroy a relationship.

Resources:

- Dr. Joy’s website: Melanie Joy - https://www.melaniejoy.org/

- Instagram: Melanie Joy (@drmelaniejoy) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/drmelaniejoy/?hl=en

- Facebook: Melanie Joy - https://www.facebook.com/melaniejoyphd/

- Twitter/X: Melanie Joy (@DrMelanieJoy) / X - https://twitter.com/drmelaniejoy?lang=en

- Beyond Carnism: Beyond Carnism - https://carnism.org/

- Her latest book: How to End Injustice Everywhere: Understanding the Common Denominator Driving All Injustices, to Create a Better World for Humans, Animals, and the Planet - https://www.amazon.com/How-End-Injustice-Everywhere-Understanding/dp/1590566866/

- Infighting.org: End Infighting - https://infighting.org/

- BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good - http://bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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Ever wonder why some people who get exposed to colds or the flu get really ill while others experience mild symptoms or don’t get sick at all? Fortunately, today’s guest is here to provide answers to this mystery. An authority on the microbiome, Dr. Robynne Chutkan, is here to tell us all about the remarkable flora residing in our intestines and how feeding it the right foods can promote health, prevent disease, and even help us with our weight. Dr. Chutkan is a board-certified gastroenterologist at Georgetown Hospital, founder of the Digestive Center for Wellness, and author of the books Gutbliss, The Microbiome Solution, The Bloat Cure, and her most recent book, The Anti-Viral Gut, where she tackles the complexities of intestinal bacteria and how it relates to our immune system. She’s been a featured expert on several media outlets, including The Today Show and CBS This Morning. 

If you’re a person interested in strengthening your immune system, or you’ve experienced digestive troubles, or you’re just human, then this episode is definitely for you!

“For a vaginal birth, as the baby’s head crowns, it turns posteriorly to face the tush, and it does that to swallow a mouthful of microbes because that area between the vaginal opening and the anus, that area we call the perineum, is full of microbes. It is one of the most microbially rich parts of the body. So, as the baby is coming out, it swallows a mouthful of the mother’s microbes, and those important microbes become the founding species for the baby’s microbiome. Babies that are born vaginally have that benefit. Babies that are born via C-section don’t get that opportunity, and as a result, they’re colonized with hospital-acquired Staphylococcus aureus.” - Dr. Robynne Chutkan

What we discuss in this episode:

- What the microbiome is and how it relates to overall human health

- Viruses and human DNA

- The microbiome and immunity

- Important tips for expecting mothers

- Causes of intestinal permeability

- The benefits of being in nature on the microbiome 

- Tips to improve your microbiome 

- The effects of stress on the gut and immunity

Resources:

- Website: Dr. Robynne Chutkan - https://robynnechutkan.com/

- Books: Books by Robynne Chutkan - https://robynnechutkan.com/books/

- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gutbliss/?hl=en

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Humans are the dominant species on the planet, but we have lost sight of our connection to, and dependence on, an ecosystem that we have pushed dramatically out of balance and to the brink of collapse.

Today’s guest, Gerard Wedderburn-Bisshop, is an Australian environmental scientist, and he is passionate about highlighting the influence of our food systems on climate change. Gerard is currently the executive director of the World Preservation Foundation, but for three decades, he monitored vegetation cover and deforestation as the principal scientist with Queensland Government Natural Resources. He’s also appeared in the excellent documentary Eating Our Way to Extinction, which discusses these issues.

From the carbon footprint of raising livestock to ocean degradation, stay with us for this powerful MUST-LISTEN episode as we discuss the connection between animal agriculture and climate change, learn how our everyday choices have far-reaching consequences, and what we can all do right now to make a difference!

“The old metrics that we use to gauge the ferocity of nature out the window. We’re living now in a new climate, and it’s going to get fast and furious. The climate warming, global warming is actually accelerating. We are in a new world, and this is, I think, what’s going to help us to wake up to the new reality and realize that we’ve got to make some radical changes to how we live.” - Gerard Wedderburn-Bisshop

What we discuss in this episode:

- How and why the number of climate-related disasters is increasing and the rate of global warming is accelerating?

- How the Middle East and Northern Africa became deserts.

- Animal agriculture’s role in the 6th mass extinction.

- How factory farms are perfect incubators for zoonotic diseases.

- How eating plants instead of animals would create a surplus of food for humans. 

- How we can make an immediate and powerful impact on the environment.

- The importance of forests for our future.

Resources:

- Eating Our Way To Extinction: https://www.eating2extinction.com/about/the-cast/

- BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good - http://bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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Around the world, there are tens of billions of non-human animals trapped in the barbaric system of industrial animal agriculture. And unfortunately, that number is increasing. It’s a severe problem, not just for the suffering animals, but for human health and the health of our planet. 

Fortunately, there are people dedicating their lives to tackling this issue. And today, we’re joined by one of these remarkable individuals.

Lewis Bollard is a dedicated animal advocate making meaningful change on a global scale. He is the Farm Animal Welfare Director at Open Philanthropy, which is a philanthropic funder addressing important and often neglected causes. Prior to working there, Lewis was the Policy Advisor and International Liaison to the CEO of The Humane Society of the United States.

Join us to hear our illuminating discussion with Lewis as we shine a spotlight on his quest for a more ethical world and his efforts to end factory farming once and for all! 

“We chose farm animals just because of the sheer numbers. I mean the sheer scale of factory farming globally in terms of tens of billions of animals suffering. And as you say, I mean it is definitely especially neglected because people don’t pay attention to them. I think that’s partly, I mean, people will say yes because they’re not smart, but I’m skeptical that’s what’s really going on. I think it’s just convenient to not care about them, and it would be really inconvenient to take seriously their interests. I mean, as with you, I think that what ultimately matters is whether they can suffer. You know, I think across all these species, I suspect there’s a lot more going on. I suspect they’re smarter than we give them credit for. But I ultimately think that debate doesn’t even really matter to our moral obligations. We just, shouldn’t torture them. We shouldn’t cause suffering to a being who can suffer.” - Lewis Bollard

What we discuss in this episode:

- The eye-opening family trip that changed Lewis’s life. 

- Why do people fall off the vegan wagon?

- Lewis’s thoughts on alternative proteins and plant-based meats.

- How the animal rights movement has evolved.

- The most abused farm animals in the world.

- Positive changes in the animal rights movement and the potential threat AI poses.

- How governments around the world are promoting plant-based diets.

- The work Lewis is doing to effect positive change.

- Lewis’s advice to those who want to make a positive impact but don’t know where to start.

Resources:

- Open Philanthropy: Lewis Bollard | Open Philanthropy - https://www.openphilanthropy.org/about/team/lewis-bollard/

- Lewis’s Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Lewis_Bollard - BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough: bioptimizers.com/switch4good

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We are very excited to welcome back to the show one of the most visionary minds of our time. He’s an Oscar-winning filmmaker, an award-winning photographer, and a passionate environmental activist. Through his lens, he has captured not only the beauty of our world but also the urgent need to protect it.

From his groundbreaking documentary “The Cove,” which exposed shocking animal abuse in Japan, to his awe-inspiring projects like “Racing Extinction” and “The Game Changers,” Louie Psihoyos has consistently pushed the boundaries of storytelling to inspire action and ignite change in all of us.

Today, he’s here with us to discuss his new documentary series “You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment,” which chronicles the recent Stanford University study that put a group of genetically identical twins on different diets – plant-based and omnivore – for two months to explore how the foods we consume impact the body.

So tune in to this must-listen episode to be inspired and empowered as we explore how what we eat dictates who we are and even what we can become.

“I want to know the truth because I want to defend the truth. I can defend a lifestyle choice of my own, you know, but I’ve been to CAFOs – these, you know, Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations –  myself. I’ve been there. I’ve smelled them. You look at these animals; you’re in that horror show that most people can’t get to, but people aren’t making an informed decision about where their animals come from. They’re doing it emotionally. They’re doing it by this bro science. And I want to find out the truth.” - Louie Psihoyos

What we discuss in this episode:

- The inspiration for You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment. 

- Blue zones and longevity.

- How telomere length dictates how we age.

- Challenges presented during the study.

- The exciting health transformation the vegans experienced as a result of the study.

- Exposure to and impact of endocrine-disrupting plastics.

- Clothes and the environment.

- Louie’s exciting upcoming projects.

Resources:

- Watch You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment | Netflix Official Site - https://www.netflix.com/title/81133260

- Oceanic Preservation Society - https://opsociety.org/

- Instagram: Louie Psihoyos - https://www.instagram.com/psihoyos/

- How to be a Conscious Consumer with Healabel app creator Adriane Marie - Switch4Good - https://switch4good.org/how-to-be-a-conscious-consumer-with-healabel-app-creator-adriane-marie/

- California Cloth Foundry - https://clothfoundry.com/

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Our remarkable guest today is scientist and acclaimed author Dr. Marion Nestle. She’s a Paulette Goddard Professor in the Department of Nutrition, Food Studies and Public Health at New York University and founder of the field of food studies. She’s THE authority on food politics – in fact, she wrote the book on it – and for decades, she has been a transformative figure, working to improve our dietary choices while exposing corporate greed and injustice inherent in the food industry.

Dr. Nestle is the author of a dozen books. She appears in the hit documentary Super Size Me and the new Netflix doc You Are What You Eat, among many others. In 2023, she was awarded the prestigious Edinburgh Medal for Science and Humanities.

So tune in for an illuminating conversation with a crusader who’s dedicated her life to changing our broken food system!

“I finally caught on to agriculture, that you cannot understand why people eat the food they do unless you understand how the agricultural system works. And now everything is a food system. How does the whole system work? Everything about food, from how it’s grown to how it’s transported to how it’s sold to how it’s marketed to how people buy it, eat it, waste it, and all of the sociology that goes with that. So, I went from being a splitter to a lumper. Splitters are – the world divides into splitters and lumpers – and in the beginning, I was a splitter. I was interested in every single nutrient; I cared a lot about every single one of them. And now what I’m really interested in is what the whole system looks like. Because I think if we’re going to encourage people to eat more healthfully, we need system change.” - Dr. Marion Nestle

What we discuss in this episode:

- Why Dr. Nestle chose a career path in nutrition.

- How, when, and why the obesity epidemic started.

- How food companies try to get people to eat more.

- The role ultra-processed junk foods play in poor health outcomes.

- How the tobacco industry deceived and manipulated the public, and how food companies have adopted the same tactics.

- Debunking food myths.

- The importance of eating a whole food plant-based diet.

- How the food industry influences the dietary guidelines of the United States.

- Why you should be discerning about the food you feed your pets.

- Dr. Nestle’s lifestyle and diet.

Resources:

- Bulletproof coffee review: https://switch4good.org/press_releases/new-review-shoots-holes-in-bulletproof-coffees-health-claims/

- Marion Nestle’s Food Politics blog: Food Politics - https://www.foodpolitics.com/

- Her books: Marion Nestle: books, biography, latest update - https://www.amazon.com/stores/Marion-Nestle/author/B001ILIEEY?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

- Twitter/X: Marion Nestle (@marionnestle) / X - https://twitter.com/marionnestle?lang=en

- Instagram: Marion Nestle (@marionnestle) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/marionnestle/

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