Girls Gone Deep

Elle and Vee

Two sex-positive ladies in the ethically non-monogamous lifestyle chatting about how we use dating and sex as a space for personal development and growth, and creating the most joyous life possible. A podcast for the open-minded, curious and naughty. @girlsgonedeeppod www.girlsgonedeep.com

  • 51 minutes 41 seconds
    098: Paid Companionship as a Therapeutic Modality with Adele Bardot

    In this episode, Elle and Vee chat with paid companion Adele Bardot in a conversation which went somewhere they didn't necessarily expect it to go.  And that's what this theme of going deep is all about: relinquishing control and sometimes talking about really intense stuff like the authentic self.  

    Elle and Vee invite you to think of this convo as an insight into how sex work and companionship can be truly great opportunities to dive deeper and seek answers to those questions of, "Who am I?" and "What is my purpose?" and "What brings me joy and lights me up?" and "How can I seek more of that?"

    Getting into paid companionship. (1:49)


    What does paid companionship entail? (4:56)


    Sugaring: finding a sugar daddy on Seeking.com, and discovering the pros and cons. (7:50)


    How our childhood informs where we end up. (11:19)


    Authentic self: asking yourself who you are, not just in the roles you play but your core self. (15:31)


    2024: a year of change. Discussing impermanence and grace through turmoil. (21:42)


    Seeking joy and developing your hobbies lead to being able to hold a conversation with anyone and fit in anywhere. (25:37)


    Greater connections with your partners once you have a greater connection to yourself. (27:55)


    Applying self work to paid companionship. (31:12)


    Memorable experiences with clients! (37:11)


    What types of bookings might an escort receive? (40:18)


    Vetting or questions for new clients? (45:22)


    What do you wish you knew before getting into sex work? (47:12)


    Ikigai: the Japanese concept of living your life's purpose. (48:57)



    Links:

    Website: theadelebardot.com

    Instagram: @itsadelebardot

    X: @theadelebardot

    HBO sex show Vee referenced: This Is Life With Lisa Ling

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    21 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    097: Redefining Tantra, Creating Safe Spaces, and The Sacred Slut Experience feat. Sexual Freedom Coach Justin Gottlieb

    Guys Gone Deep! In this thought provoking conversation, Justin Gottlieb, a sexual freedom coach, discusses his evolution from the corporate world to the world of tantra. He emphasizes how Tantra is often misunderstood and the need to redefine Tantra beyond stereotypes.  His take on unlocking sexual freedom is refreshing and he encourages everyone to live fully by embracing and accepting all aspects of life, the good, the bad and the ugly. 

    So, how can we achieve this? Take a listen… 

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    From Corporate Suit To Tantra World, Beyond The Typical Tantra Spiritual Stereotypes.  (00:00)


    Justin’s Definition Of Tantra: Different From Sanskrit, Accepting Our Sexuality and Embracing Our Human Experience. (06:14)


    Personal Journey into Discovering Tantra: Tantra Massages And Spiritual Awakening. (09:24)


    More Than Tantra: What is a Sexual Freedom Coach?  (14:04)


    Story Share: A Tantra Massage Detailed, Withholding Orgasm and Male Orgasm Without Ejaculation.  (16:50)


    Why Justin Doesn't Subscribe To Semen Retention As A Must For Tantric Men. (20:46)


    The Distinction Between Self Pleasure And Masturbation.  (24:01)


    Justin Coaches Vee On Resisting Edging. (27:02)


    Story Share: Justin Details being a demo for a tantra massage in front of a 40 person training. The Power of Vulnerability and Emotional Release. (28:27)


    What is a Men’s Group or Men’s Circle? (33:28)


    How can you create Safe Spaces in groups and in Relationships to be vulnerable? (38:10)


    What is it like at a Tantra Love Retreat?  (44:13)


    What is The Sacred Slut Experience? Exploring Boundaries and Desires in a Supportive Environment. (49:24)


    The Evolution of Miami Velvet, Justin’s Swinger Sex Club Rescue Detailed, Incorporating Tantric Principles, Community Education, Expansive Experiences. (55:25)


    Fantasy Vs. Desire. (01:06:37)


    The Intersection of BDSM and Tantra: is there a difference between Subspace and Surrender? (01:09:15)

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    Tantra, Sexual Freedom, Spirituality, Authenticity, Personal Growth, Sexuality, Coaching, Relationships, Self-Acceptance, Empowerment, vulnerability, emotional release, men's groups, safe spaces, tantra retreats, pleasure, intimacy, healing, boundaries, swinger clubs, community education, personal development, fantasies, healing, BDSM




    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    14 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 36 minutes 36 seconds
    096: 11 Types of Orgasms and How to Have Them Part 2 feat. Magda Kay

    In this second of two episodes, Elle and Vee dive deep into the remaining four of the eleven different types of orgasms with School of Intimacy founder, intimacy coach, and author of No More Faking It, Magda Kay. 

    Anal Orgasm: a brief mention! (2:35)

    Nipple Orgasm. (3:10)

    Energy Centers: the kundalini energy arcs and centers that women and men have. (7:02)

    Throat Orgasm. (10:13)

    De-armoring: what is de-armoring, and when do you know whether you should push through discomfort or if it's going to be too much? (13:55)

    Yoni mapping: the difference between a therapeutic yoni massage and yoni mapping to de-armor the genitals. (16:01)

    Energy Orgasm: what is it? Is it possible to have a full body orgasm without touch? (18:44)

    HOW to have an energy orgasm. (25:40)

    Why seek pleasure? What's the significance of seeking orgasms and pleasure? (27:47)


    Find Magda:


    Website: www.magdakay.com

    Instagram: @magdakayofficial

    Youtube: @magdakay



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    7 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 1 hour 19 minutes
    095: 11 Types of Orgasms and How to Have Them Part 1 feat. Magda Kay

    In this first of two episodes, Elle and Vee dive deep into seven of the eleven different types of orgasms with School of Intimacy founder, intimacy coach, and author of No More Faking It, Magda Kay. 


    Noticing and Asking for What You Need in your sex life. (1:28)


    What gets you in the right headspace for orgasm? Safety. Physical environment. (7:56)


    Circadian Rhythms, chronotypes  menstrual cycles and how it affects our sex drive. (12:32)


    Sleep Types/Chronotypes. (19:01)


    Genital Cupping and the Benefits of NOT Having Goal Oriented Sex. (21:01)


    How to have more Fulfilling, Satisfying Orgasms! (25:48)


    11 Types of Orgasms: according to whom? (29:58)


    Clitoral Orgasm: using breath to deepen the climax; giving disclaimers or “heads up” when you bring breathwork into the bedroom. (36:58)


    Inside the Vagina: G Spot, A Spot, K Spot, P Spot. (49:08)


    Female Ejaculation: from G and A Spots; how to let go and let yourself ejaculate. (53:36)


    Ejaculation vs. Orgasm. (58:52)


    Cervical Orgasms. (1:03:35)


    How do you know what type of orgasm you’ve had? What’s the best position to acheive cervical orgasm? Woman on Top! (1:07:32)


    V Spot/Entry to Vagina Orgasms. (1:13:51)


    What is an orgasm? (1:16:15) 


    Find Magda:


    Website: www.magdakay.com

    Instagram: @magdakayofficial

    Youtube: @magdakay

    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    Contact: [email protected]

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    1 November 2024, 3:00 am
  • 1 hour 1 minute
    094: Intrinsic Courage vs Liquid Courage: How Much Do We Depend on Booze in Sex and Dating? Sexual Liberation Without Alcohol feat. Tawny Lara

    In this episode, Vee and Elle chat all things sober sex with Tawny Lara! She is the author of Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze and co-author of The Sobriety Deck, co-host of the Recovery Rocks podcast, and co-founder of the NA botanical spirit, (parentheses).


    ***You don't need to be sober or even sober-curious to get something out of this conversation! Have you ever had a situation when you couldn't drink and felt a little weird or  uncomfortable? The girls chat about how to deal with that discomfort, where it's coming from, and how to turn to intrinsic courage rather than liquid courage to have better sex and better dates.***


    Can we still go out without drinking? Or does not being able to drink make us too uncomfortable to socialize? Life Circumstances that force us not to drink. (00:38)


    Sober Curious: Does less alcohol lead to more creativity? Get curious about your relationship with alcohol. (4:49)


    Dating Yourself: The importance of working on the self in any relationship. (11:05)


    The Physiology Behind Alcohol in the Body: you can’t selectively numb. If you’re numbing anxiety, you’re also numbing the pleasure centers! (20:00)


    Sober-Friendly Date Ideas: DO something! Experiential dates over sit-and-talk-over-a-drink dates. (30:28) 


    Parentheses: all about Tawny's slow-sipping, small batch spirits with a vinegar base, and the health benefits of vinegar! (34:51)


    Rituals to Get Sexy: figure out what your goal is in different circumstances which you drink - is it to loosen up? To feel sexy? etc. …and what can we do instead? (42:48)


    Sexuality Post-Sobriety: Getting honest about what you really want when you’re not numbing. Living in evolution.  (49:23)


    “Coming Out” as Sober: What are the best ways to disclose that you don’t drink or at least aren't drinking tonight? Should you put it on your dating profile? Should you tell them at the date? Before? (52:25) 

    The Sobriety Deck: an easy, digestible self-help tool to use when you need support in not using liquid courage. (56:31)


    Final Nuggets of Wisdom! (58:26)

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    24 October 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    093: Evolving Agreements and Self Growth in Open Relationships: Falling in Love with Your Best Friend’s Partner, Knowing When To Move On and “Decoupling” feat. CJ and Lana

    In this episode, Vee and Elle chat with Slutlana (031: Opening Your Marriage, Throuples, and Falling In Love With Someone Besides Your Husband) and CJ about what might stereotypically be one of the biggest fears in the non-monogamous community: falling in love with secondary partners and decoupling with your primary.  How can this happen? How do you move on? How do you evolve for your next relationship? They touch on all of these topics and more in this juicy, deep episode!



    Fear of Loss: Falling in love with your best friend’s partner. (1:42)


    When do you know if it’s not working anymore, and that it’s time to move on? (11:06)


    Healthy reasons and ways to be ethically non monogamous. (14:49)


    Self growth and how it shows up in relationships. (19:31)


    Approaching a new relationship differently. Asking for what you want and using your own self knowledge to communicate better with your partner. (30:26)


    Human Design and Attachment Styles: how knowing yours can benefit communication in a relationship. (45:35)


    Evolving Agreements in Non Monogamy: adapting to needs throughout your relationships, from exclusive to soft swapping to same room to open etc. (51:38)


    Learning Moments: don’t assume. Talk about it and move on, don’t hold resentments. (52:56)


    Last (sexual) Nuggets: Role playing spiciness! (59:50)

    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    17 October 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    092: Redefining Paid Companionship and Intimacy, The Future of Sex Work, Breaking the Stigma and Revolutionizing Connection with Choice CEO Arik Bruckner

    In this conversation, Elle, Vee, and Arik Bruckner discuss the concept of paid companionship and its implications in society when approached in a serious, professional, safe, consensual and ethical way. Arik is the co-founder and CEO of Choice, a pioneering global online booking platform for paid companionship and intimacy. 

    This online booking platform is revolutionizing the paid companionship industry, extending beyond sex by offering a solution to loneliness and prioritizing safety.


    In this chat, Arik shares insights into the origins of the Choice platform, the importance of destigmatizing paid companionship, and the various services offered. The conversation highlights the legal concerns, potential for education and understanding in reshaping perceptions around sex, intimacy and companionship. 


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Paid Companionship and Escort Sex Work


    02:51  The Concept of Choice and Its Origins. Breaking the preconceived notions of paid companionship from sex work to non sexual activities. 


    07:28 Understanding the Market and Destigmatization and interview result Revealed from 700 sex workers across Europe, Canada, Australia and the US. 


    09:35 Safety and Legal Aspects


    12:39 The Spectrum of Companionship Across Different Demographics. 


    18:00 The 250+ options services offered and growing and how it depends on the jurisdiction of where the services are offered. 

    20:08  What is a male wing person experience? It is requested often by women or groups of women or having a date to corporate event


    23:31 How Choice verifies users, survey responses revealed from female customers to male customers and the feedback process to access user experience


    26:40  The behavioral guidelines and required questionnaire for both parties after each event


    25:26 A walk through of the user experience of Choice and why Choice doesn’t use user ratings


    30:00 How Choice prioritizes safety through their verification process and using escrow account 


    32:34 The Legal concerns, Challenges and Misconceptions in the Industry


    36:00 Stigmas and stereotypes to overcome, consent, authenticity and how paid companionship can compliment lifestyles   


    44:26 Sex Work Union Opinions, Policy issues around Legalized Sex Work and HowPaid Companionship differ in Various countries New Zealand, Amsterdam, Switzerland, Nordic areas


    56:33   Sexual Surrogacy and Using Choice as a way to get real life education sexually as opposed to the current  model of learning from prom aka sexual entertainment 


    01:03:21 Providers profiles have levels which indicate verification steps 


    01:07:45  Misconceptions Arik had about this industry, privacy concerns, and how he adjusted the platform based on surveys and feedback  

    Choice Website

    Choice Instagram

    Choice X

    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    10 October 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 18 minutes
    091: Jealousy in Non-Monogamy: Diving Deeper, Understanding It, How to Manage It and Co-Creating With Your Partner with Kathy Labriola

    In this episode, Elle and Vee chat with author Kathy Labriola, who has written 4 books on polyamory, including a life-changer for Vee: The Jealousy Workbook

    What inspired The Jealousy Workbook? (3:18)

    Jealousy in ethical non-monogamy vs. monogamy. (7:05)

    Core beliefs and how they affect us in relationships. (8:32)

    "Signifiers" which instill confidence in partners. (11:37)

    Where does jealousy stem from? (14:07)

    Jealousy vs envy: defining and differentiating them. (17:17)

    Unpacking the emotions integral to jealousy. (21:33)

    Practical strategies to manage jealousy in the moment. (30:24)

    Figuring out the root cause of jealousy: the relationship, you, or a little bit of both? (44:39)

    Doing the internal work to overcome jealousy: understanding your attachment style and how it affects your level of jealousy in different relationships. (49:06)

    Conversations to have with your partner. (55:10)

    Phobia vs engineering methods to mitigate jealousy. (1:01:27)

    How to support a partner who is feeling jealous. (1:06:20)

    Final "nuggets of wisdom". (1:13:43)



    Find Kathy:
    Kathylabriola.com

    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    Contact: [email protected]

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    3 October 2024, 10:00 am
  • 50 minutes 24 seconds
    090: How to Have Good Strap On Sex, Pubic Hair Do’s and Don’ts, Primal Play and What is Possessive Touch? feat. Lola Jean and Lolo and B

    This week, Elle and Vee bring back Lolo and B from Episode 081: Long Distance ENM and Creating Sexy Spaces, and Lola Jean from Episode 074: Fetish Wrestling, Choking and Squirting Misconceptions to play WHOREible Life, a card game all about breaking down barriers and getting naughty AND deep!


    Have You Ever: Been fucked with a strap on dildo? Favorite dildos, and what makes strap on sex good. (3:05)


    Have You Ever: Paid for sex? What is the appeal behind role playing as an escort? (15:18)


    Would you Rather: Use a ball gag or receive a rim job? (21:30)


    Pubic Hair do’s and don’ts! (22:59)


    Would you Rather: Be the focus of a gang bang with 4 or more or be in an orgy with 8 or more people? (29:44)


    Different types of gang bangs? (32:14)


    The Wheel of Consent. (34:22)


    Would you rather: Give impact play with a flogger, or give or receive bite marks? (36:54)


    What is possessive touch?  How to feel desired without messing with labels and power sub/dom dynamics. (38:33)


    What is primal play? (41:02)


    Would you Rather: Go to a daytime orgy aka ‘dorgy’ or masturbate together next to your partner? (43:32)


    Lola Jean:
    @lolajeandotcom
    www.lolajean.com

    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    26 September 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 6 minutes
    089: Unicorning in ENM: Navigating Couples’ Dynamics, Self Awareness, Communication and Safety feat. Summer

    Elle and Vee have Summer back for an encore episode after she shared her experiences as a trained submissive under two doms in Episode 088: Inside the Mind of a Sub.  This time, she discusses her experiences and the lessons she's learned from being a unicorn for an array of couples with lots of different dynamics, and the girls put in their two cents from their own experiences.

    How do you become a unicorn in the ethically non monogamous lifestyle?  (1:46)


    Navigating couples’ dynamics as a unicorn and establishing your boundaries. Why you should keep texting in the group chat. (9:12)


    Deferring to the wife/girlfriend, and holding their feelings in high regard. Feeling thankful for being invited in. (16:07)


    As a husband/wife or girlfriend/boyfriend: the benefits of playing separately as a unicorn. (22:20)


    Playing with a couple when you’re more attracted to one person than the other. (27:01)


    BDSM vs ENM: rough sex vs vanilla sex. (32:30)


    Questions to ask as the couple, and as the unicorn, before playing. (34:23)


    Best threesome positions. (42:50)


    Meeting couples on apps. Overcoming past experiences and being a couples’ first. (46:42)


    Listener question: tips to stay safe when meeting new people as a single unicorn. (49:59)


    What does this lifestyle (ethical non monogamy) bring to your life in the absence of having your own primary partner? (1:00:26)

    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    Contact: [email protected]

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    19 September 2024, 7:00 am
  • 56 minutes 1 second
    088: Inside the Mind of a Submissive: A Deep Dive into Dom/Sub Dynamics, Intimate Breakdown of BDSM Scenes and Punishments Feat. Summer

    In this conversation, Elle and Vee chat with Summer (FetLife:  DaddysPrettyToy ) about her journey through a BDSM Dom/Sub relationship. She shares her experiences as a trained submissive, highlighting the positive aspects of her BDSM journey and the transformative power of a healthy Dom/Sub dynamic. Listen in for a detailed play-by-play of her scenes, insights into her daily tasks, and the reasons and methods behind her punishments.

    How Fifty Shades of Grey and Playful Wrestling with Her Boyfriend Inspired Summer to Explore BDSM: She discusses how she found her first Dom and what motivated her to get into this lifestyle. (1:04)


    Her First Dom/Sub Relationship: The Agreement and Lessons Beyond. (8:40)
     

    A Day in the Life of a D/s Relationship: Sessions and Communication: Details of a typical day in her Dom/Sub relationship, including the dynamics of their sessions and the importance of clear communication. (11:43)


    A Day in the Life of a Trained Sub: 8-10 Hour Sessions and Rules (13:12)
     

    A Sexy Wax Play Scene: Building Trust, Aftercare, and Debriefing: Summer describes a wax play scene, the questions that were asked to build trust, why the scene was suddenly stopped, and the aftercare and debriefing discussion. (15:52)


    Characteristics of a Good Dom and How It Can Be a Gift to a Sub. (19:09)


    The Misuse of the Term 'Dom'. (20:17)


    Shibari Rope Scene Play by Play: Summer compares the differences between her two Doms, the sexual skills she learned, and details a scene involving being frog-tied with shibari rope and using a TENS unit. (22:49)


    Being a Good Dom Means being a Good Sub: Summer explains where her two dominants learned their skills. Exploring how BDSM practices push personal limits and how these experiences can translate into real-world scenarios. (31:00)

     

    Punishments as a Sub: What Happens When You’re a Brat; A look at the various types of punishments a submissive might encounter, whether they enjoy them or not, and what happened when Summer was a "brat." (35:53)


    People-Pleasing, Struggling to Say No, and Asking for Permission to See Other Men (40:21)

    Ending a Sub/Dom Relationship for a Vanilla Relationship (44:20)
     

    Finding the Right Dom for You: A play-by-play of how Summer met her Dom on FetLife, along with tips and questions you can use to find the right Dom for yourself. (46:20)

     Insights into how her Dom helped with her personal wellness and growth. (49:15)


    Reflecting on whether it's possible for Summer to pursue a monogamous relationship after such deep and intimate Dom/Sub experiences. (51:00)

    Be intentional with your desires and sexual awakening. Tips to Be Safe when exploring BDSM. (54:00)


    Where to find us, and how you can support us:

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    Contact: [email protected]

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    12 September 2024, 7:00 am
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