Two sex-positive ladies in the ethically non-monogamous lifestyle chatting about how we use dating and sex as a space for personal development and growth, and creating the most joyous life possible. A podcast for the open-minded, curious and naughty. @girlsgonedeeppod www.girlsgonedeep.com
In this episode, Elle and Vee debrief on the highlights, challenges and takeaways from their most recent weekend away with their ENM friends.
“A glimpse into a lifestyle party,” and one of the challenges of bringing a third to a party. (1:46)
What’s the point of having themes? (5:35)
Sobriety: the challenges and benefits of staying sober for an entire lifestyle weekend. (9:10)
Sobriety and sexuality. (18:02)
Highlight: DP with strap ons? FFF threesome and goal-oriented fucking. (21:57)
Face-sitting: the benefits of being distracted/focused when you’re getting action both up top and down bottom. (26:46)
Highlight: Fivesome and creampie. (29:41)
Fuckit List item: DVP, and Elle’s tips for success. (32:06)
Breakthrough: Getting out of your head, and cumming in front of a group. (38:28)
Sybian vs Fuck Machine. (41:37)
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Elle and Vee catch up just the two of them for their 100th episode! They reflect on how much they've changed since beginning the podcast, and fill each other in on their latest sexcapades, learning moments and takeaways.
Putting Talk Into Action: Vee doing the work, Elle’s intentions to be a better student, gratitude for the guests. (1:10)
Elle’s tight pussy post-birth: how Vee and Elle have changed since the beginning of the podcast. (6:04)
The importance of taking care of yourself to have good sex! Desire level post-birth: how lack of sleep for new parents affects sex drive. (11:48)
Alcohol: letting go of alcohol allowed Vee to listen to her body’s signals. (16:33)
How to Be the Love You Seek check ins: Elle uses tools from Dr. Nicole LaPera’s book. (18:27)
Vee gets embodied: checking in with yourself - inside and outside of the bedroom. (20:03)
First date orgasms! Getting eaten out by a guy with a beard, and learning to let go with a new partner. (21:55)
Oral with a timer; giving your partner NRE (new relationship energy) no matter how long youve been together. (28:03)
Elle’s vacation sex: cock ring + connection + tipsiness + weed = anal sex! (34:51)
Balls hitting the ass during sex: yay or nay? (37:09)
Putting mens’ toys and condoms on for them. (42:15)
Setting intentions: cock cage, yoni massage, and tantra retreat. (44:10)
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In this episode, Elle and Vee dive deep with a psychotherapist who they refer to as Wonder Woman on this episode for the sake of anonymity. With specializations in sex therapy and ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, the girls pick her brain on everything from desire discrepancy to the most common issues within couples, from what a ketamine-assisted psychotherapy session actually looks like to neuroplasticity.
Psychotherapy vs. Psychoanalysis: what is the difference? (1:58)
Top reasons couples seek sex therapy counseling: both gay and cis-het couples, and individuals. (5:15)
Spontaneous desire vs responsive desire: a dive into libido differences and desire discrepancy. (6:25)
Is there a way to get spontaneous desire back? Esther Perel’s Mating in Captivity. (13:33)
The Dual Control Model (Sexual Brakes and Accelerators): a concept from Emily Nagoski’s book Come As You Are and her 2nd book Come Together. (20:57)
Kink and shame: how to bring you kinky desires up to your partner and working through internalized shame. (26:12)
Kink as shadows: how roleplaying can help one work through shame with reframing and control. (30:02)
Kink isn’t always about processing something. Heteroflexible male-male play as a “taboo kink”. (31:27)
Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy: how to use it properly, and how it’s being done irresponsibly. (35:17)
How neuroplasticity works in the brain using the snow track analogy by Michael Pollan, author of the book How to Change Your Mind. (47:24)
Ketamine Assisted Couples Psychotherapy. (53:02)
Final Nugget: Keeping the idea of play and pleasure at the forefront. (53:57)
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In this episode, Elle and Vee chat with paid companion Adele Bardot in a conversation which went somewhere they didn't necessarily expect it to go. And that's what this theme of going deep is all about: relinquishing control and sometimes talking about really intense stuff like the authentic self.
Elle and Vee invite you to think of this convo as an insight into how sex work and companionship can be truly great opportunities to dive deeper and seek answers to those questions of, "Who am I?" and "What is my purpose?" and "What brings me joy and lights me up?" and "How can I seek more of that?"
Getting into paid companionship. (1:49)
What does paid companionship entail? (4:56)
Sugaring: finding a sugar daddy on Seeking.com, and discovering the pros and cons. (7:50)
How our childhood informs where we end up. (11:19)
Authentic self: asking yourself who you are, not just in the roles you play but your core self. (15:31)
2024: a year of change. Discussing impermanence and grace through turmoil. (21:42)
Seeking joy and developing your hobbies lead to being able to hold a conversation with anyone and fit in anywhere. (25:37)
Greater connections with your partners once you have a greater connection to yourself. (27:55)
Applying self work to paid companionship. (31:12)
Memorable experiences with clients! (37:11)
What types of bookings might an escort receive? (40:18)
Vetting or questions for new clients? (45:22)
What do you wish you knew before getting into sex work? (47:12)
Ikigai: the Japanese concept of living your life's purpose. (48:57)
Links:
Website: theadelebardot.com
Instagram: @itsadelebardot
HBO sex show Vee referenced: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
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Guys Gone Deep! In this thought provoking conversation, Justin Gottlieb, a sexual freedom coach, discusses his evolution from the corporate world to the world of tantra. He emphasizes how Tantra is often misunderstood and the need to redefine Tantra beyond stereotypes. His take on unlocking sexual freedom is refreshing and he encourages everyone to live fully by embracing and accepting all aspects of life, the good, the bad and the ugly.
So, how can we achieve this? Take a listen…
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From Corporate Suit To Tantra World, Beyond The Typical Tantra Spiritual Stereotypes. (00:00)
Justin’s Definition Of Tantra: Different From Sanskrit, Accepting Our Sexuality and Embracing Our Human Experience. (06:14)
Personal Journey into Discovering Tantra: Tantra Massages And Spiritual Awakening. (09:24)
More Than Tantra: What is a Sexual Freedom Coach? (14:04)
Story Share: A Tantra Massage Detailed, Withholding Orgasm and Male Orgasm Without Ejaculation. (16:50)
Why Justin Doesn't Subscribe To Semen Retention As A Must For Tantric Men. (20:46)
The Distinction Between Self Pleasure And Masturbation. (24:01)
Justin Coaches Vee On Resisting Edging. (27:02)
Story Share: Justin Details being a demo for a tantra massage in front of a 40 person training. The Power of Vulnerability and Emotional Release. (28:27)
What is a Men’s Group or Men’s Circle? (33:28)
How can you create Safe Spaces in groups and in Relationships to be vulnerable? (38:10)
What is it like at a Tantra Love Retreat? (44:13)
What is The Sacred Slut Experience? Exploring Boundaries and Desires in a Supportive Environment. (49:24)
The Evolution of Miami Velvet, Justin’s Swinger Sex Club Rescue Detailed, Incorporating Tantric Principles, Community Education, Expansive Experiences. (55:25)
Fantasy Vs. Desire. (01:06:37)
The Intersection of BDSM and Tantra: is there a difference between Subspace and Surrender? (01:09:15)
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Tantra, Sexual Freedom, Spirituality, Authenticity, Personal Growth, Sexuality, Coaching, Relationships, Self-Acceptance, Empowerment, vulnerability, emotional release, men's groups, safe spaces, tantra retreats, pleasure, intimacy, healing, boundaries, swinger clubs, community education, personal development, fantasies, healing, BDSM
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In this second of two episodes, Elle and Vee dive deep into the remaining four of the eleven different types of orgasms with School of Intimacy founder, intimacy coach, and author of No More Faking It, Magda Kay.
Anal Orgasm: a brief mention! (2:35)
Nipple Orgasm. (3:10)
Energy Centers: the kundalini energy arcs and centers that women and men have. (7:02)
Throat Orgasm. (10:13)
De-armoring: what is de-armoring, and when do you know whether you should push through discomfort or if it's going to be too much? (13:55)
Yoni mapping: the difference between a therapeutic yoni massage and yoni mapping to de-armor the genitals. (16:01)
Energy Orgasm: what is it? Is it possible to have a full body orgasm without touch? (18:44)
HOW to have an energy orgasm. (25:40)
Why seek pleasure? What's the significance of seeking orgasms and pleasure? (27:47)
Find Magda:
Website: www.magdakay.com
Instagram: @magdakayofficial
Youtube: @magdakay
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In this first of two episodes, Elle and Vee dive deep into seven of the eleven different types of orgasms with School of Intimacy founder, intimacy coach, and author of No More Faking It, Magda Kay.
Noticing and Asking for What You Need in your sex life. (1:28)
What gets you in the right headspace for orgasm? Safety. Physical environment. (7:56)
Circadian Rhythms, chronotypes menstrual cycles and how it affects our sex drive. (12:32)
Sleep Types/Chronotypes. (19:01)
Genital Cupping and the Benefits of NOT Having Goal Oriented Sex. (21:01)
How to have more Fulfilling, Satisfying Orgasms! (25:48)
11 Types of Orgasms: according to whom? (29:58)
Clitoral Orgasm: using breath to deepen the climax; giving disclaimers or “heads up” when you bring breathwork into the bedroom. (36:58)
Inside the Vagina: G Spot, A Spot, K Spot, P Spot. (49:08)
Female Ejaculation: from G and A Spots; how to let go and let yourself ejaculate. (53:36)
Ejaculation vs. Orgasm. (58:52)
Cervical Orgasms. (1:03:35)
How do you know what type of orgasm you’ve had? What’s the best position to acheive cervical orgasm? Woman on Top! (1:07:32)
V Spot/Entry to Vagina Orgasms. (1:13:51)
What is an orgasm? (1:16:15)
Find Magda:
Website: www.magdakay.com
Instagram: @magdakayofficial
Youtube: @magdakay
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In this episode, Vee and Elle chat all things sober sex with Tawny Lara! She is the author of Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze and co-author of The Sobriety Deck, co-host of the Recovery Rocks podcast, and co-founder of the NA botanical spirit, (parentheses).
***You don't need to be sober or even sober-curious to get something out of this conversation! Have you ever had a situation when you couldn't drink and felt a little weird or uncomfortable? The girls chat about how to deal with that discomfort, where it's coming from, and how to turn to intrinsic courage rather than liquid courage to have better sex and better dates.***
Can we still go out without drinking? Or does not being able to drink make us too uncomfortable to socialize? Life Circumstances that force us not to drink. (00:38)
Sober Curious: Does less alcohol lead to more creativity? Get curious about your relationship with alcohol. (4:49)
Dating Yourself: The importance of working on the self in any relationship. (11:05)
The Physiology Behind Alcohol in the Body: you can’t selectively numb. If you’re numbing anxiety, you’re also numbing the pleasure centers! (20:00)
Sober-Friendly Date Ideas: DO something! Experiential dates over sit-and-talk-over-a-drink dates. (30:28)
Parentheses: all about Tawny's slow-sipping, small batch spirits with a vinegar base, and the health benefits of vinegar! (34:51)
Rituals to Get Sexy: figure out what your goal is in different circumstances which you drink - is it to loosen up? To feel sexy? etc. …and what can we do instead? (42:48)
Sexuality Post-Sobriety: Getting honest about what you really want when you’re not numbing. Living in evolution. (49:23)
“Coming Out” as Sober: What are the best ways to disclose that you don’t drink or at least aren't drinking tonight? Should you put it on your dating profile? Should you tell them at the date? Before? (52:25)
The Sobriety Deck: an easy, digestible self-help tool to use when you need support in not using liquid courage. (56:31)
Final Nuggets of Wisdom! (58:26)
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In this episode, Vee and Elle chat with Slutlana (031: Opening Your Marriage, Throuples, and Falling In Love With Someone Besides Your Husband) and CJ about what might stereotypically be one of the biggest fears in the non-monogamous community: falling in love with secondary partners and decoupling with your primary. How can this happen? How do you move on? How do you evolve for your next relationship? They touch on all of these topics and more in this juicy, deep episode!
Fear of Loss: Falling in love with your best friend’s partner. (1:42)
When do you know if it’s not working anymore, and that it’s time to move on? (11:06)
Healthy reasons and ways to be ethically non monogamous. (14:49)
Self growth and how it shows up in relationships. (19:31)
Approaching a new relationship differently. Asking for what you want and using your own self knowledge to communicate better with your partner. (30:26)
Human Design and Attachment Styles: how knowing yours can benefit communication in a relationship. (45:35)
Evolving Agreements in Non Monogamy: adapting to needs throughout your relationships, from exclusive to soft swapping to same room to open etc. (51:38)
Learning Moments: don’t assume. Talk about it and move on, don’t hold resentments. (52:56)
Last (sexual) Nuggets: Role playing spiciness! (59:50)
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In this conversation, Elle, Vee, and Arik Bruckner discuss the concept of paid companionship and its implications in society when approached in a serious, professional, safe, consensual and ethical way. Arik is the co-founder and CEO of Choice, a pioneering global online booking platform for paid companionship and intimacy.
This online booking platform is revolutionizing the paid companionship industry, extending beyond sex by offering a solution to loneliness and prioritizing safety.
In this chat, Arik shares insights into the origins of the Choice platform, the importance of destigmatizing paid companionship, and the various services offered. The conversation highlights the legal concerns, potential for education and understanding in reshaping perceptions around sex, intimacy and companionship.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Paid Companionship and Escort Sex Work
02:51 The Concept of Choice and Its Origins. Breaking the preconceived notions of paid companionship from sex work to non sexual activities.
07:28 Understanding the Market and Destigmatization and interview result Revealed from 700 sex workers across Europe, Canada, Australia and the US.
09:35 Safety and Legal Aspects
12:39 The Spectrum of Companionship Across Different Demographics.
18:00 The 250+ options services offered and growing and how it depends on the jurisdiction of where the services are offered.
20:08 What is a male wing person experience? It is requested often by women or groups of women or having a date to corporate event
23:31 How Choice verifies users, survey responses revealed from female customers to male customers and the feedback process to access user experience
26:40 The behavioral guidelines and required questionnaire for both parties after each event
25:26 A walk through of the user experience of Choice and why Choice doesn’t use user ratings
30:00 How Choice prioritizes safety through their verification process and using escrow account
32:34 The Legal concerns, Challenges and Misconceptions in the Industry
36:00 Stigmas and stereotypes to overcome, consent, authenticity and how paid companionship can compliment lifestyles
44:26 Sex Work Union Opinions, Policy issues around Legalized Sex Work and HowPaid Companionship differ in Various countries New Zealand, Amsterdam, Switzerland, Nordic areas
56:33 Sexual Surrogacy and Using Choice as a way to get real life education sexually as opposed to the current model of learning from prom aka sexual entertainment
01:03:21 Providers profiles have levels which indicate verification steps
01:07:45 Misconceptions Arik had about this industry, privacy concerns, and how he adjusted the platform based on surveys and feedback
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In this episode, Elle and Vee chat with author Kathy Labriola, who has written 4 books on polyamory, including a life-changer for Vee: The Jealousy Workbook.
What inspired The Jealousy Workbook? (3:18)
Jealousy in ethical non-monogamy vs. monogamy. (7:05)
Core beliefs and how they affect us in relationships. (8:32)
"Signifiers" which instill confidence in partners. (11:37)
Where does jealousy stem from? (14:07)
Jealousy vs envy: defining and differentiating them. (17:17)
Unpacking the emotions integral to jealousy. (21:33)
Practical strategies to manage jealousy in the moment. (30:24)
Figuring out the root cause of jealousy: the relationship, you, or a little bit of both? (44:39)
Doing the internal work to overcome jealousy: understanding your attachment style and how it affects your level of jealousy in different relationships. (49:06)
Conversations to have with your partner. (55:10)
Phobia vs engineering methods to mitigate jealousy. (1:01:27)
How to support a partner who is feeling jealous. (1:06:20)
Final "nuggets of wisdom". (1:13:43)
Find Kathy:
Kathylabriola.com
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