Two Sides of FI

Jason and Eric

Two lifelong friends document and share their personal journey as they seek to become financially independent and retire early (FIRE).

  • 59 minutes 17 seconds
    Early Retirement + Group Travel: What Works, What Doesn’t

    Are group tours the ultimate hassle-free way to travel, or do they come with unexpected challenges? In this episode, Eric talks with Jason about his first experiences with group travel after a recent trip to Peru. They explore the pros, cons, and key lessons Jason learned—offering insights to help you plan your own adventure, whether you’re retired or just looking for your next great trip.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/tours

    17 November 2024, 4:05 pm
  • 46 minutes 46 seconds
    Does Retirement = Happiness?

    How would you feel if you worked hard to retire early and later realized you hated being retired? Sadly, online forums make it clear that a number of people who achieve FIRE are disappointed, bored, or otherwise unhappy in retirement. In this episode, Eric and Jason discuss their feelings on this topic. Join us to hear Jason's thoughts in his fifth year of early retirement, and Eric's observations after a recent vacation with his family.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/happiness

    27 October 2024, 3:03 pm
  • 42 minutes 3 seconds
    Empty Nest, New Challenges: What’s Next After Early Retirement?

    In this episode Eric and Jason share their experiences as new empty nesters and reflect on the emotional and identity shifts that come with this major life change, especially after retiring early. They dive into how life changes when the kids are gone and work is no longer a primary focus. From adjusting to the quiet at home to rethinking purpose and identity, they discuss the highs and lows of this new phase. Join them as they explore what comes next in this post-parenting, post-career chapter of life.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/identity

    22 September 2024, 3:05 pm
  • 43 minutes 6 seconds
    Financial Independence at 50 (Finally!)

    After years of planning, Eric and Laura have finally reached their FI number at 50! They discovered the FIRE movement 5 years ago and set their sights on achieving financial independence by 2024. Now, with both of their boys off to college, a paid-off home, and a 80/15/5 split between equities, fixed income and cash, they’ve officially hit their financial independence (FI) goal and plan to retire early.

    In this episode, they discuss the challenges of moving goalposts, their decision to keep running Eric's business, 30X40 Design Workshop (on their own terms), and their plans for the future. Laura will be leaving her job as a research scientist in January 2025 to operate 30X40 remotely, with a goal of maintaining a flexible, time-limited schedule. They also cover practical topics like their pretax/taxable split, health insurance considerations, and their withdrawal strategy. Learn what reaching FI looks like for them, the steps they’re taking next, and what their plans are moving forward!

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/GFY

    26 August 2024, 1:53 am
  • 51 minutes 56 seconds
    He Earned a Million Dollars Trading This Option Strategy

    How would you like to earn $80,000 a year trading options against your existing portfolio? That's exactly what our guest, Karsten "Big ERN" Jeske, has achieved. In today's episode, Jason talks with Karsten about his simple SPX options trading strategy. Be sure to see the show notes linked below for definitions, associated blog posts, and more.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/options

     

    18 August 2024, 3:03 pm
  • 42 minutes 40 seconds
    Our 80/20 Rules for Early Retirement: How We Did It

    If you are not aggressive, you are not going to make money, and if you are not defensive, you are not going to keep money (Ray Dalio). In this episode, Eric and Jason talk about their personal "80/20 Rules" for retiring early. That is, the decisions they made along the journey that served as key pivot points towards ensuring their achievement of financial independence.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/roads

    4 August 2024, 3:05 pm
  • 46 minutes 30 seconds
    Checking In: Year One of Early Retirement

    A year later, Jason and Eric check in with their friend Erik, who retired early at 49 while his wife continues to work. In this follow-up episode, we find out how things are going and what important lessons he learned during his first year of early retirement.

    Show notes and our earlier chat with Erik - https://twosidesoffi.com/erik

    21 July 2024, 3:05 pm
  • 43 minutes 10 seconds
    Four Years Later: What I Wish I Knew Before Retiring Early

    Four years after retiring early at 47, Jason reflects on the key lessons he wishes he knew beforehand. He discusses his portfolio, spending habits, healthcare, mental health, relationships, and more.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/fouryears

    30 June 2024, 3:05 pm
  • 39 minutes 31 seconds
    Retired Early? Here’s How to Pay Yourself

    How do you plan to set up your retirement paycheck to avoid running out of money? In this episode, Jason talks with Eric about how he uses a free online tool to manage his finances in early retirement. Topics covered include his variable withdrawal strategy, managing cash, portfolio rebalancing, and much more.

    FREE SWR tool and show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/toolbox

    22 May 2024, 3:05 pm
  • 45 minutes 3 seconds
    When is Enough, Enough? Working After Financial Independence

    Why would anyone continue to work for money once they've achieved financial independence? In this episode, Eric and Jason discuss this common practice, including why Jason and Lorri currently have part-time jobs post-FI. Topics covered include de-risking retirement, charitable giving, skill-building, and more.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/enough

    5 May 2024, 3:05 pm
  • 37 minutes 49 seconds
    Unexpected Reactions to My Early Retirement

    Contempt, concern, surprise, envy, admiration, and support; just a few of the reactions Laura received when she announced she was retiring early, closing her biomedical research laboratory, and beginning a new phase of life beyond work. Some reactions were expected and some surprised her. In this episode, Eric and Laura unpack these interactions and chart their next steps as they prepare to leave work and step into early retirement.

    Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/unexpected

    21 April 2024, 3:05 pm
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