When the Facts Change

Hosted by journalist Bernard Hickey, When the Facts Change is your essential weekly guide to the intersection of economics, business and politics in Aotearoa New Zealand. Presented by The Spinoff together with Kiwibank.

  • 25 minutes 9 seconds
    What austerity actually means

    In order to reduce debt, the coalition government wants to cut spending from 34% of GDP down to 30%. In practice, that means cutting spending on people with disabilities, even though those cuts often increase hospital and care costs in the long term.

    Bernard is joined this week by disability rights lawyer (and distant cousin) Huhana Hickey, for an in-depth look at what austerity actually means.

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    16 January 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 9 minutes 36 seconds
    A fast track to cronyism?

    Political and economic debates in 2024 were dominated by the Government’s new fast-track legislation, a controversial bill that aims to speed up infrastructure and development, which passed just before Christmas.

    The debate, and the risks, were summed up in an impassioned plea in parliament by Labour MP Arena Williams, who said of the bill: “This is the closest New Zealand has ever come to cronyism through the legislative process.”

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    9 January 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 7 minutes 46 seconds
    “Tariffs are beautiful. They’ll make us rich”

    Donald Trump’s re-election was the defining moment (and the major shock) in the world of politics this year. His proposed tariff regime is set to upend global economics, which he has kicked off by threatening 25% tariffs on America’s two biggest trading partners: Canada and Mexico.

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    2 January 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 8 minutes 43 seconds
    It’s darkest before the dawn

    Finally, the Reserve Bank of New Zealand started cutting interest rates this year, having moved before everyone else and stayed higher for longer than everyone else. The economy slumped significantly early in the year, remaining firmly in recession since. By August 14, Adrian Orr felt safe enough to cut 25 basis points.

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    26 December 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 2 seconds
    What’s on Aotearoa’s shopping list?

    Kiwibank senior economist Mary Jo Vergara has dug through card-spending data to find out how retail spending has changed since Covid, and over the last year of high interest rates. Have we collectively tightened the purse strings in response to a cost-of-living crisis? Or are we taking advantage of online shopping payment options that have never been more convenient? Listen in to find out.

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    19 December 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 36 minutes 53 seconds
    Inside Wellington’s homeless crisis

    Homelessness in Aotearoa has hit an all-time high, forcing organisations like Wellington City Mission to adopt innovative new strategies. Wellington City Missioner Murray Edridge joins Bernard Hickey to talk about the scale of the housing crisis in our capital city and how a couple of new approaches and buildings are making a difference for those worst affected.

    Read more about the Wellington City Mission’s efforts in Joel’s MacManus’ Cover Story:

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/11-11-2024/inside-the-urgent-race-to-solve-homelessness-in-aotearoa

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    12 December 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 33 minutes 55 seconds
    Home on the marae

    Motueka might appear sleepy and remote to visitors, but like much of Aotearoa, it faces a severe shortage of rental housing—often far pricier than expected. Bernard Hickey sits down with Miriana Stephens to discuss how her iwi is tackling this crisis by building dozens of affordable homes, with the marae at the heart of community life.

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    5 December 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 24 minutes 35 seconds
    The OCR grinch has turned into Father Christmas

    In 2022, Reserve Bank governor Adrian Orr told Christmas shoppers to “cool your jets”, as the bank scrambled to control inflation by hiking interest rates. This week - now inflation has been beaten back down - he delivered another whopper 50-basis point rate cut in the RBNZ’s latest monetary policy statement.

    Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr joins Bernard Hickey to discuss the governor’s gradual transformation from OCR grinch to Father Christmas, and how many more rate cuts we can expect to see in the new year.

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    28 November 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 7 seconds
    How fair is our tax system?

    Victoria University professor of taxation Lisa Marriott talks to Bernard Hickey about the fundamental flaws at the core of our tax system, how they have produced historic levels of wealth inequality in Aotearoa - and how we can fix them.

    Lisa is speaking at the Pakukore: Poverty, by Design conference at Victoria University, 21-23 November.

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    21 November 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 33 minutes 1 second
    Behind Porirua’s poverty

    For decades, Pat Hanley has been a tireless advocate for the rights of beneficiaries, drawing attention to the persistent challenges they face. In this week’s episode of When the Facts Change, he sits down with Bernard Hickey to unpack the deep-rooted causes of poverty in Porirua. Hanley argues that both the underlying issues and society’s approach to addressing poverty demand a comprehensive overhaul, calling for transformative change to create a fairer, more supportive social landscape.

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    14 November 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 33 minutes 52 seconds
    The cost of prison

    Our prisons are bursting at the seams. They cost at least $2 billion per year to run – and that’s before we consider the longer-term and wider-reaching costs to our health, education, housing, justice and welfare systems.

    University of Auckland indigenous studies professor Tracey McIntosh joins Bernard to interrogate the reasons why we, as a society, persist with ever-larger and ever-more-damaging institutions that are failing to reduce crime rates or recidivism (and, in fact, may actually be increasing them).

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    7 November 2024, 4:00 pm
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