At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley

  • 59 minutes 55 seconds
    Episode 205: The Spiritual Nature of All Things | A Conversation with Kaylee McElroy
    “The natural world, with all its varieties of God’s creations, shows us so many [other] ways of being,”  writes Kaylee McElroy. Zooming out as far as human imagination can take us may bring our ideas about God and our relationship to the physical world into clearer focus. In Episode 205, Susan and Cynthia are joined by Kaylee for a conversation about everything: structures, darkness, creation, connection, and the convergence of physics and spirituality.
    17 December 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Episode 204: Do I Have to Care? | The Second Coming
    In a church where everything is “true,” how do we allocate importance? With only so much bandwidth, we all have to make choices about what matters to us. Which ideas do we find to be consistently resonant, or generative? Which produce meaningful fruit in our lives and relationships? In Episode 204, Cynthia and Susan take on the current interest in the Second Coming in a discussion about deciding what really matters.
    10 December 2024, 10:00 am
  • 59 minutes 34 seconds
    Episode 203: An Evolving Faith | A Conversation with Valerie Hamaker
    There are some topics that seem to surface again and again in our ALSSI conversations: love, fear, self, change, and patriarchy, to name a few. In Episode 203, Cynthia and Susan are joined by Valerie Hamaker for a conversation that touches on these themes and others as we discuss evolving faith.
    3 December 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 12 minutes
    Episode 202: Who Deserves to Hear My Story?
    When things start to shift around our faith, the need to tell people about the change can feel overwhelming. There are all kinds of reasons people want to share—it can feel isolating to carry such big thoughts, feelings, and experiences alone. But depending on the circumstances, spilling the details of your evolving faith can have all kinds of consequences. In Episode 202, Susan and Cynthia discuss the question, “Who deserves to hear my story?”
    26 November 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 4 minutes
    Episode 201: What About Certainty? | What About Conscience?
    David French wrote, “We live in an age of misplaced certainty, when even the smallest expressions of doubt or the slightest of disagreements break institutions and fracture families." In Episode 201, Cynthia and Susan take on certainty as it contributes to the development of a Church monoculture. Is there room for existential or intellectual humility in a "True" church? And as members of an organization built around checklists and worthiness assessments, can Latter-day Saints allow individual conscience to function as a holy disruptor?
    19 November 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Episode 200: Let's Zoom Waaay Out
    Our spiritual lives are our own, but they don’t exist in a vacuum. We can do all the inner work we want, but as Latter-day Saint women our personal journey is always going to intersect with our Church membership, theology and history, our marriages, friendships and families, our communities, education and politics, and all the messaging we absorb in these interactions. In Episode 200, Cynthia and Susan discuss how looking at our journey in context can help us better understand our individual story.
    12 November 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 39 minutes
    Episode 199 (Bonus): Revisiting "Did It Ever Matter?" | Garments
    “All dogma begins in mysticism,” says Rob Bell. But by the time programs, practices, and policies filter down to Church members, it’s little wonder the criteria for determining what really matters in the long term—and why—can feel a bit fuzzy. In light of recent changes, in bonus Episode 199 Cynthia and Susan revisit their conversation from Episode 102, Did It Ever Matter? What’s the point of all the trappings of our religious practice as Latter-day Saints? Why do some changes bring so much emotion? And who gets to determine what’s important to us?
    29 October 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 31 minutes
    Episode 198 (Bonus): What About Women Leaving the Church? | Revisiting Messages to Our Daughters
    An August 2024 Church Handbook update includes instruction inviting “Young Women class presidencies to organize youth to minister by welcoming visitors and members as they enter the chapel.” Does this baby step represent leadership’s awareness of the need for Latter-day Saint young women to have some kind of systematic responsibility at the ward level? In Episode 198, Cynthia and Susan discuss this change in the context of research detailing historic shifts in religious engagement for Gen Z men and women. This episode also revisits a previous exploration of the question many of the Church’s children are asking: “When will girls be able to pass the sacrament?”
    1 October 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 18 minutes
    Episode 197: Season 8 | That's a Wrap!
    As a finale to this season of conversations about women’s spirituality, in Episode 197 Susan and Cynthia revisit some ideas that stood out to them, discuss personal takeaways, and chat about what’s on each of their minds now.
    27 August 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    Episode 196: What About Ritual? | A Conversation with Selina Forsyth
    “For me, broadening my thinking about ritual has given me more freedom to bring my whole self and my creativity to my spiritual life, as well as meet my unique and evolving spiritual needs,” explains Selina Forsyth, who joins Cynthia and Susan to discuss ritual in the lives of Latter-day Saint women. What about when the rituals provided by our religion no longer fit? Even if they do remain deeply meaningful, in a church where women have not been involved in creating official sacred rituals—and sometimes participate in them only as observers—it can be hard to feel we have authority to create personal sacred rituals for ourselves. Episode 196 is a conversation about the intentional making and marking of meaning in the big and small moments of our lives.
    20 August 2024, 10:00 am
  • 58 minutes 39 seconds
    Episode 195: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Candice Clark
    Every Latter-day Saint woman’s walk is unique. Cynthia and Susan are joined in Episode 195 by Candice Clark, who shares a glimpse of her personal path and some valuable insights she’s picked up along the way. She reminds us, “As a mother raised in the Church, one thing I’m grateful to have finally learned is that my desires matter. They don’t matter more than anyone else’s; they also don’t matter less. It’s good to know what I want, whether or not I get it. And it’s okay for me to get what I want sometimes.”
    13 August 2024, 10:00 am
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