The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Chad Sowash

HR's Most Dangerous Podcast

  • 58 minutes
    ZipRecruiter's Pathetic Performance

    This week, the boys are joined by Lieven from House of HR to discuss various topics including layoffs in the industry, the impact of AI on startups, social media regulations for youth, and recent innovations in recruitment. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by companies in the current economic climate, as well as insights into quarterly earnings reports from major players in the recruitment space. The conversation delves into the dynamics of job platforms, particularly focusing on the power struggles between major players like Indeed and ZipRecruiter. Plenty of talking about the innovations brought by AI tools in recruitment, the challenges faced by ZipRecruiter, and the potential for mergers and acquisitions in the industry. The discussion also touches on the impact of AI on the workforce, investment trends in HR tech, and a comparison of two startups, Toothio and SocialCrowd, showcasing the evolving landscape of recruitment and staffing.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction

    03:02 - The Impact of AI on Startups

    06:00 - Social Media Regulations and Youth

    09:03 - Innovations in Recruitment

    14:51 - Layoffs and Economic Challenges

    17:48 - Quarterly Earnings Reports and Market Trends

    27:35 - The Power Dynamics of Job Platforms

    29:08 - Innovations in Recruitment: The Rise of AI Tools

    30:52 - The Struggles of ZipRecruiter

    34:42 - The Future of Recruitment: Mergers and Acquisitions

    36:44 - AI in the Workforce: Opportunities and Challenges

    48:30 - Investment Trends in HR Tech

    53:08 - Startups to Watch: Toothio vs. Social Crowd

    15 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 7 minutes 34 seconds
    Shredded: Oyster, ZipRecruiter, Indeed, Upwork, Dice, 11x, SocialCrowd, MONA AI, Serve Robotics, Vebu & More

    The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

    14 November 2024, 2:32 pm
  • 12 minutes 5 seconds
    Inclusive Recruitment in 2025 and Beyond

    Broadcasting from the ever-glamorous Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese sit down with the powerhouse of DEI herself, Novonda Lilly, Director of DEI Campus and Community Engagement at Vanderbilt Health. Novonda schools the guys on how to navigate the choppy waters of diversity in hiring, especially with 2025 looming large. Spoiler alert: it’s not as simple as slapping a rainbow on your LinkedIn banner.


    Novonda doesn’t hold back, calling out the so-called “shortage of diverse candidates” and challenging recruiters to step up their game. She serves up practical advice on using social media to reach underrepresented talent, though she’s quick to throw a little shade at AI and its dicey role in hiring – because, let's be real, nobody wants a “smart” robot unintentionally screening out great people. And, if you're hoping for a warm fuzzy moment, sorry – Novonda’s here to make sure we all stay sharp and resilient. She dishes on the reality of adapting DEI strategies to market trends, and she’s already lined up LinkedIn requests from everyone who wants in on her best practices.


    Prepare for an episode packed with humor, hard truths, and a few digs at outdated recruiting “innovations.” Novonda reminds us that if you’re not actively building an inclusive culture, you’re just setting yourself up for 2025 – and not in a good way.

    13 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 35 minutes 28 seconds
    Firing Squad: MyStandard's Josh Sklüt

    In this episode of Firing Squad, Josh Sklüt, co-founder and Chief People Officer of My Standard, discusses the innovative approach of his company as a Web3 alternative to traditional job platforms like LinkedIn. He explains how My Standard empowers users to control and monetize their professional data while addressing the shortcomings of existing recruitment methods.

    The conversation delves into the app's features, the challenges of candidate matching, and the future of job searching in a decentralized world. The discussion covers client success stories, the competitive landscape, and the go-to-market strategy focusing on AI jobs. Sklut also addresses challenges and critiques from the hosts regarding the complexities of blockchain and the need for effective education in the HR space.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction to My Standard and Josh Sklut

    05:09 - Pitching My Standard: A New Approach to Job Searching

    09:54 - The Problem with Traditional Job Platforms

    15:11 - Data Verification and Candidate Matching

    19:51 - Monetization and Business Model of My Standard

    24:45 - Challenges and Future of My Standard

    17:52 - Understanding the Use Cases and Client Success Stories

    19:51 - Differentiating from Competitors and Market Positioning

    22:03 - Go-to-Market Strategy and Initial Focus on AI Jobs

    23:57 - Team Composition and Expertise Behind MyStandard

    26:04 - Exit Strategies and Future Growth Opportunities

    28:04 - Facing the Firing Squad: Challenges and Critiques

    11 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 36 minutes 53 seconds
    Google's Velvet Hammer

    In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, the boys discuss various topics including Sundar's velvet hammer, LinkedIn's financial success, the recent election results and their implications, and the trend of wealthy Americans considering relocation. The conversation flows from light-hearted banter to serious reflections on political and social issues, all while maintaining a humorous tone.

    They discuss various topics including the results of a hybrid work experiment, the growth and innovations at LinkedIn, and Google's recent all-hands meeting where AI's impact on jobs was addressed. They explore the implications of hybrid work on productivity and employee satisfaction, LinkedIn's revenue growth and new features, and the concerns surrounding job security in the tech industry due to AI advancements.


    Chapters

    01:03.95 - Election Commentary and European Perspective  

    01:13.19 - Chad in Nazaré, Portugal  

    01:37.89 - Travel Plans and Europe Compared to the U.S.  

    02:09.21 - Election Insights and Mental Health  

    02:41.38 - Joel Reflects on American Elections and Republican Revolution  

    04:21.03 - Reflections on Political Cycles and Voter Shifts  

    05:53.67 - Wealthy Americans Planning to Leave the U.S.  

    09:03.63 - Text Recruiting and Listener Shoutouts  

    10:45.49 - Draftboard Business Pivot  

    11:52.10 - Listener Art and Future Tattoo Ideas  

    17:20.55 - Hybrid Work Study Discussion  

    22:17.14 - Hybrid Work Future Predictions  

    24:34.07 - Immigration Impact on American Workforce  

    25:06.13 - LinkedIn Revenue and Global Market Growth  

    27:17.62 - LinkedIn AI and Coaching Feature Expansion  

    31:32.68 - Google's Velvet Hammer  

    36:03.05 - Closing Remarks and Halloween Joke

    8 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 5 minutes 39 seconds
    Shredded: Adecco, Korn Ferry, LinkedIn, Trilogy International, ShiftPixy, Toothio, Employ Inc. & More

    The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

    7 November 2024, 1:47 pm
  • 11 minutes 7 seconds
    Authenticity Over Algorithms w/ Mary Battle Broxton

    Live from the Shaker Green Room, Mary Battle Broxton from Tractor Supply Company joined The Chad & Cheese at RecFest USA to talk AI, authenticity, and hiring without the ‘lazy applicants.’ ‘Embrace the robots, or get left in the dust,’ as Mary urges talent leaders to dive headfirst into AI tools like Paradox. Forget the old-school ways; it's all about tech-fueled, authentic candidate experiences now, where people and bots get to know each other before onboarding. Oh, and by 2025, you better be ready to keep up, or, as Mary might say, enjoy life as a digital dinosaur.

    6 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 27 minutes 28 seconds
    HR Tech Talks: Give 'Em the Bird w/ Tracey Parsons

    Live from the SmartRecruiters booth, Tracey Parsons, the CEO of Flockity, shared insights at the HR Tech conference in Las Vegas, drawing from her extensive 20-year background in recruitment marketing and employer branding. She highlighted the sluggish pace of change within the industry, attributing it to stakeholder resistance and a pervasive lack of genuine listening, which deteriorates candidate experiences. This oversight often stems from an employer's sense of superiority, exemplified by Amazon's challenged reputation due to its treatment of warehouse workers. Parsons noted the common occurrence of candidates being ghosted post-interview, a reflection of broader systemic failures in recruitment where candidate sentiment remains low and transparency around compensation is stifled.

    The friction in job application processes is often counterproductive, deterring potential talent, while companies like Amazon, despite recognizing the costs of high attrition, struggle with implementing meaningful change. Misaligned branding further complicates expectations for both candidates and employees. However, technology offers a beacon of hope by potentially streamlining interactions and enhancing communication.

    Parsons criticized the inefficiencies in the current job distribution model, marked by low trust in job postings, and introduced Flockity's innovative approach using influencer marketing to foster trust and improve the candidate experience. She pointed out the skewed dynamics where paid job promotions might not reflect genuine company endorsement, and content tends to emphasize skills over culture. Creators often avoid brand mentions to dodge backlash.

    4 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Here Comes LinkedIn's AI Hiring Assistant | Google Does More with Fewer

    In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Emi Beredugo discuss Halloween festivities, share a humorous story about a naked neighbor incident, and delve into the upcoming US elections from a British perspective. They also touch on the cultural impact of Taylor Swift's concerts, highlight innovative recruiting platforms, and provide updates on their fantasy football league.

    Then they discuss the implications of AI in recruitment, focusing on LinkedIn's new Hiring Assistant tool and its potential to streamline recruitment tasks. They explore the impact of AI on coding jobs, the evolving role of recruiters, and the challenges of integrating AI while maintaining human connection. The discussion also touches on hiring trends for 2025, emphasizing the importance of adapting to new technologies and the need for recruiters to upskill in a changing job market.

    Emi and Joel discuss the evolving landscape of hiring practices, particularly the shift towards skills-based hiring. They explore the mindset of Gen Z, who prioritize mental health and work-life balance over traditional hustle culture. The discussion also highlights the alarming trend of prime-age men leaving the workforce, attributing it to economic shifts and societal pressures. Finally, they delve into the implications of influencer culture on society, questioning its long-term effects on individual identity and societal values.

    Takeaways

    • Halloween is a favorite holiday for many, with unique costumes and traditions.
    • A humorous incident involving a naked neighbor showcases the unpredictability of life.
    • The US elections are a topic of global interest, especially from a British viewpoint.
    • Taylor Swift's concerts have a significant cultural impact, turning non-fans into fans.
    • Innovative recruiting platforms like Poetry are changing the landscape of recruitment.
    • The excitement and tension surrounding elections can be felt worldwide. LinkedIn's Hiring Assistant aims to automate recruitment tasks.
    • AI is seen as a tool to enhance productivity, not replace humans.
    • Recruiters add value through human interaction, not just administrative tasks.
    • AI's role in coding is growing, but human oversight remains essential.
    • The demand for upskilling in tech roles is increasing due to AI.
    • Candidates prefer remote work and are resistant to returning to the office.
    • Skills-based hiring is not widely adopted among employers.
    • Recruiters are evolving to focus on workforce planning and employer branding.
    • AI can help with communication but should not replace human touch.
    • The future of recruitment will require adaptability to new technologies. Skills-based hiring is gaining traction as a necessary approach.
    • Gen Z is reshaping workplace expectations with a focus on mental health.
    • The job market is evolving, requiring creative hiring strategies.
    • Young people today have unprecedented career options.
    • The influencer culture is influencing career aspirations among youth.
    • Disengagement among young men is a growing concern for society.
    • Economic shifts are impacting traditional employment pathways.
    • Companies must adapt to retain talent in a changing landscape.
    • The stigma around non-college careers is detrimental to workforce participation.
    • Understanding the motivations of young people is crucial for future employment strategies.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Halloween Festivities and Costumes

    03:02 - Naked Neighbor Incident

    06:01 - US Elections and Global Perspectives

    10:04 - Taylor Swift's Impact and Concert Experience

    12:05 - Shout Outs and Innovations in Recruiting

    16:01 - Fantasy Football Update and Competition

    17:30 - AI in Recruitment: LinkedIn's Hiring Assistant

    26:01 - The Impact of AI on Coding and Employment

    34:11 - Hiring Trends for 2025: Balancing AI and Human Connection

    43:01 - Skills-Based Hiring: A New Paradigm

    46:03 - The Mindset Shift of Gen Z

    54:03 - The Decline of Prime Age Men in the Workforce

    01:00:53 - The Impact of Influencer Culture on Society

    1 November 2024, 8:00 am
  • 7 minutes 44 seconds
    Shredded: LinkedIn, PageUp, Kforce, Oracle, Fonda, Google, Fiverr, Cascade AI & More

    The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

    31 October 2024, 12:51 pm
  • 22 minutes 1 second
    Adapting in an AI Market with Quincy Valencia

    In this lively episode, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Quincy Valencia, SVP of Innovation at Harri, at the HR Tech conference. Known for her no-nonsense approach, Quincy offers her candid insights on the overhyped AI trend, emphasizing that companies should focus on the outcomes AI can deliver rather than getting lost in technical jargon. She highlights how AI has evolved since ChatGPT’s launch, moving beyond basic functionalities to transformative real-time data applications in industries like hospitality. As she discusses the future of HR technology, Quincy predicts continued shifts toward integrated ecosystems and strategic partnerships, suggesting that adaptability and innovation are critical for survival. The conversation wraps up with her advice for cautious companies exploring AI: prioritize business results over the technology’s novelty.


    Chapter Timecodes

    1. 0:00 - Podcast Intro

    2. 2:31 - Meet Quincy Valencia

    3. 5:46 - AI in HR

    4. 10:31 - Real-World AI Applications

    5. 4:56 - Adapting in a Changing Market

    6. 20:11 - Advice for Newcomers

    7. 23:31 - Future of HR Tech

    8. 27:16 - Quincy’s HR Tech Wishlist

    9. 30:46 - Wrap-Up

    30 October 2024, 7:00 am
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