Well they say all rotten things must come to an end. In this final episode, I have a laid back conversation with my friend, the Pastor of Pump himself, Danny Prada. We talk about our respective journeys, how we have grown as individuals, how DRCK has impacted our lives, and how we feel as it all comes to a close.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for so many wonderful moments. I feel honored to have created this show and thrilled by what it has meant to so many Bad Apples like me.

Keep up the Dirty Work.

And remember,

It’s all gonna be okay.

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On this, second to last DRCK episode, I had the privilege of hanging out with my friend Janice (God Has Not Given! Bad Words! General Menace!) , and new friend Tim (The New Evangelicals!). We discuss the things we would go back and tell ourselves about our personal deconstruction journeys– the good, the bad, the dogmatic. We also discuss platform culture, how we feel about worship music, and play a game of Youth Group or Boy Band.

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This week I had the privilege of chatting with friend of the show and friend of mine, theologian and author Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (Body Becoming! Activist Theology!). We have a laid back conversation about rest, embodiment, finding the third way and taking time to dream about the world we wish to see. I also go on a mild rant about being funemployed and the shit show that is the current job market. 

TIMESTAMPS:

Interview - 10:24

Post Interview - 47:44

Sip, Smoke, Read - 59:45

LINKS:

Donate to the Activist Theology Project.

Check out Dr. Roberto Che’s Espinoza’s website.

Follow @jerryjhlee, @workhap, and @apowermood for job hunting tips.

Read Atomic Habits, Essentialism, So Good They Can't Ignore You, Good to Great, and The First 90 Days for self-help goodness.

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This week I had the privilege of speaking with sex educator and sex empowerment coach Portia Brown (Froetic Sexology!) . We discuss her upbringing in evangelical spaces, the ways she subverted the sex scripts she was handed, and the deliberate pursuit of pleasure practices.

TIMESTAMPS:

Interview - 5:04

Post Interview - 52:09

Sip, Smoke, Read - 57:30

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This week we’re talking about missions! My co-hosts for this episode are podcasters, writers, and friends Kevin Garcia (Bad Theology Kills! A Tiny Revolution!) and Mason Mennenga (A People’s Theology! The Black Sheep Podcast!). Together we unpack our experiences with short term mission trips, the ideas and doctrines that informed so many of them, and how we feel on the other side of a faith change. We also hear stories from the Bad Apples. 

TIMESTAMPS:

Interview - 2:07

Bad Apple Submissions - 49:15

Sip, Smoke, Read - 1:20:15

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This week, I have the absolute privilege of speaking with songwriter, producer, genius Joy Oladokun. We discuss their upbringing in Christian spaces, stepping into truth and the creative journey. We discuss her new album, Proof of Life, the songwriting and creative process, and the art of sifting through faith traditions to find the goodness. We also witness a second encounter with everyone’s favorite evangelist, Pashhtor Ben. 

TIMESTAMPS:

Interview - 4:26

Car Rental Sketch - 25:29

Post Interview - 55:05

Sip, Smoke, Read - 1:05:10

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On this episode, I have the privilege of chatting with podcast hosts Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry (REVcovery!). We talk about what it was Iike deconstructing while in full time ministry, the struggles of making significant career changes, and the impostor syndrome that comes along with it. We also discuss what we have found that brings joy on the other side of a faith change and hear stories from the Bad Apples.

TIMESTAMPS:

Interview - 1:04

Bad Apple Submissions - 59:29

Sip, Smoke, Read - 1:37:07

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This week I have the absolute pleasure of chatting with podcaster, writer, and performer Holly Laurent (MEGA The Podcast!). We talk about her upbringing in evangelical spaces, and the faith change that ultimately led to Mega The Podcast. We talk about humor, creativity, walking the fine line of familiar and unfamiliar, and finding the lovely things on the other side of the evangelical bubble.

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For the first episode of the season, I chat with podcaster, author, and academic Brad Onishi (Straight White American Jesus!). We discuss his upbringing as a Japanese American within evangelicalism, the origins of extremist Christian nationalism and what comes next, his new book, and I have a big announcement to make about this season!

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It’s the last DRCK of 2022! What a year it has been. I’m wrapping it all up with singer/musician/producer Lucy Dacus! We talk about her upbringing within a cerebral evangelicalism, VBS, Purity Culture, and unravelling what she was handed. We also talk about her latest full length, this year’s EP, her creative process and ways in how she has found community on the other side of a faith change. We also answer the age old question: was Lucy Dacus team Unforeseen Kiss or Sloppy Wet Kiss.

Brought to you by The Christmas Carpenter and Vanilla Spice Eggnog

TIKTOK Creator Cred:

@patrickteahantherapy - You Are Not in Trouble

@appliedscience11 - Where Are You Christmas?

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This week I got to chat with actor, director and writer Jon Huertas (This is Us! Castle! Sabrina the Teenage Witch!). We talked about his upbringing within the catholic church, moving out of religious spaces to nontheism, and reasons he let go of the dogma he was handed to instead embrace belief in humanity. We also talk about creativity, the hard work of believing in yourself, telling compelling stories, and we chat about This is Us. 

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TIMESTAMPS

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[13:51] Interview with Jon Huertas

[1:04:58] Sip, Smoke, Read

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