The ultimate portrait and wedding photography business podcast where Andrew Hellmich, interviews successful wedding and portrait photographers and industry experts to reveal their business secrets for your success. PhotoBizX is the photography podcast where you hear answers to the questions you'd love to ask successful wedding and portrait photographer yourself but may never get the chance - or you'd be too afraid to ask.
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Jane Thompson of www.janethomsonphotography.com is a Canadian-based dog and portrait photographer who came from the commercial television world before discovering and studying photography.
Take one look at her photography, and you'll be drawn in by her classic and dramatic style, shot against simple canvas backdrops without the distraction of props. Her work truly is fantastic!
It was long-time premium member and pet photographer Jo Lyons who made me aware of Jane in her email where she said:
I had a coaching call this morning with Canadian photographer Jane Thomson. I’ve admired her work on Instagram and recently learned she was available for coaching.
Jane recently completed an incredible calendar project for a children’s hospital, which is nothing like I’ve ever seen.
I asked Jane for this interview, and she warned me by saying…
I have a small and simple portrait business…nothing luxurious. I work out of my home, strictly on my own (no assistants or staff).
I do pretty well and have pretty much no overhead other than all my subscriptions.
That was enough for me, and I'm rapt to say Jane agreed to record.
In this interview, Jane shares her secrets to organic growth, a different approach to photography business success, with takeaways for every photographer.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
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I was looking for something between my projects…I thought, I have no hobbies. I just keep going out for lunch with friends. You know, I need to do something more productive, learn something. So I thought I'm going to get a camera. – Jane Thomson
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
I will never shoot without being tethered. It's the most productive, and it's the most productive thing I do. – Jane Thomson
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Jane shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
Nobody sees your style. They don't know what they're going to get. When they come in to have a shoot with you, they do not know what they're going to get. Whereas each client that comes in with me, they know, because. If you look at my feed, it has a style… – Jane Thomson
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Jane or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
I love being busy, not not just busy. I like to wake up in the morning and have a plan. – Jane Thomson
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
I love getting that painterly, beautiful, soulful portrait of a dog looking right down the barrel of the lens over its shoulder at you. It's just fantastic. You know? It's very human. – Jane Thomson
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
Jane Thomson Photography on Instagram
Jane Thomson Photography on Facebook
Portraits of Dogs on Instagram
Thank you so much for tuning in! A huge thanks to Jane for sharing her journey and insights into running a successful dog and portrait photography business. From mastering dramatic lighting to building trust with clients and growing organically, Jane’s approach proves that passion and simplicity can lead to incredible success. If you’re looking for ways to refine your style, connect deeply with clients, and grow your business on your terms… you'd do well to emulate Jane and her approach. I’d love to hear your thoughts—let me know your biggest takeaway!
I think it's because it's a style, and they can see, they can imagine their dog or their them and their dog in that style, and it works for them. And so it consistently brings people in. – Jane Thomson
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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Welcome to a very special milestone episode of PhotoBizX—our 600th!
This week, we’re not just reflecting on the journey so far, but celebrating you, the incredible Premium Members who have made this podcast what it is today. Your engagement, insights, and stories inspire not just me but the entire PhotoBizX community.
We’ve also just hit another significant milestone: 2.5 million downloads!
This achievement is a testament to the power of community, the value of shared knowledge, and the collective drive we all have to grow, learn, and succeed in the photography business world. Thank you for being such a big part of this journey!
In this episode, you’ll hear directly from Premium Members sharing their big wins, valuable lessons from 2024, and their exciting goals for 2025.
Plus, there’s no shortage of inspiration—from Abi’s journey of building an authentic brand to Ina’s first five-figure sale to Ryan’s success with a bold new advertising strategy. These stories prove what’s possible with focus, determination, and the proper support.
This is also your chance to join the celebration.
As we look back on 600 episodes and 2.5 million downloads, I can’t wait to see what we achieve together in the next chapter. Thank you for being here, for sharing your journey, and for making PhotoBizX the vibrant, supportive, and inspiring community it is. Here's to making 2025 our most successful year yet—together!
Let’s celebrate this incredible milestone and all we’ve achieved as a community—dive into the stories below, share your takeaways in the comments, and keep the conversation going.
Abi B Photography on Instagram
I need to be a bit more discerning and trust my own values and instincts as to what is right for me and my business…Rather than trying a little bit from here and a little bit from there, I’ve realised the importance of creating something cohesive that truly reflects me. – Abi B
Jeany Aerdts Dog Photography Website
The worst thing that could happen was that my the door got bruised or that people said no to my face. Well, they did a lot. And I'm still here with clients who value my work and love the art I create for them. – Jeany Aerdts
You never know what you're going to get, but you need to get in there and talk to people. – Damien Blacklock
The one thing I've learned this year is stop doing the things that are taking over time and that you don't make money on. Um and the answer to that then is stick at the things that you're doing well. – Tom Ryan Casey
Episode 556: Johl Dunn – Unlock Your Photography Business Potential and Stop Failing
I think that's probably the biggest thing and that's something I would say everyone should do is get a business coach, especially someone especially with mindset. – Paul Elby
Thanks Andrew!
You helped me get started with the ad campaign, and then I got connected with someone in my local dog network who is starting his own marketing business. He helped me launch new ads over the last week, and I’m seeing great success! It’s hard getting used to spending that money every day, but I’m betting on it balancing out in the long run. I’m getting better at those phone calls. I’ve made about 100 calls by now and feel like I’m dialling things in. Thanks again for inspiring me to get started with all that!
I’m on track to have 215k in revenue this year, which is 15 more than last year. Moving forward, I have to get used to taking on a much bigger ad budget. Can you believe in 2023, I only spent 5k in advertising? That includes market event fees and such. Now, it seems that realistically, I need to spend 3-4 that much to get the kind of results I’m after.
Keep doing great things!
Ryan Erickson
Thanks for everything that you do after being on your podcast. It really helped open up my eyes on how little I've been spending on advertising. So, uh you really helped open up some doors and get some campaigns on social media launch that is just really uh starting to to prove super helpful. – Ryan Erickson
Every investment I've made in myself this year has helped me to grow. – Crystal Gail
Episode 518: Mike Glatzer – A solution for photographers not ready for a subscription-based CRM
And one of the big things or big wins I had this year was I had probably my fewest shoots in a number of years. I think I did maybe like 20 something shoots. In previous years I had done like 40, 50, whatnot, and I still did the same revenue. I saw the same, you know, numbers coming in, which was tremendous because as a result of you know listening to the podcast. – Mike Glatzer
One thing that I did this year that transformed my photography business is I spoke at a nature photography conference in front of approximately 300 of my peers telling my story and what inspired me to become a photographer and why I do what I do. It was a very emotional talk and also I hope inspiring to others not to give up on your dreams and to realize that sometimes you need to just open your eyes and take a look at what's around you. – Tracey Halladay
Episode 314: Luci Dumas – How to make larger wall portrait sales in your photography business
She truly helped me transform my brand-new business, teaching me about profitability and in-person sales, especially with wall art. – Alexis Heisa
Episode 475: Ina Jalil – How to easily increase your portrait photography sales consistently
My big win this year is that I made my first five figure sale, $11,250, which is amazing. – Ina Jalil
Matthew Kauffmann on Instagram
It doesn't seem to matter what I'm looking for to learn on the business end of things. There are at least three episodes that pertain to it and the interviews are always probing and insightful and relevant. – Matthew Kauffmann
Su Kaye UK Portrait Photographer on Instagram
Su Kaye Hertfordshire Dog Photographer on Instagram
Su Kaye Photography on Facebook
Tony Knight Family videographer
Episode 242: Tony Knight – How to Create a Photography Business with No Competition
I can sincerely say that a lot of the things that we've learned or I've learned and then passed on to my wife Shelli has been through listening to the podcast. – Tony Knight
Took them through my experience in the studio, talked them through everything and they booked and we had an amazing day and resulting in a beautiful box of 25 family portraits and they were over the moon. The sale was $35,000. So I was pretty happy with that plus the session fee. That was my lesson learned that we need to respond and check our junk folders too. – Jo Lyons
East Adelaide Photography on Instagram
East Adelaide Photography on Facebook
I've learned so many things from the podcast over the years, but I want to share a valuable lesson that I learned in 2024. It's not actually a business lesson, but a life lesson. So, one thing that really resonated with me recently is when you said something along the lines of, “Kids are only little once, time goes too quickly. So, make sure we build our business around our family and take time off to spend with our kids. – Tammy Miles
Never fear to raise your prices. People will still buy. – Chris Miller
Episode 200: Alan Moyle – Goal Setting, Weight Loss and a New Year
This 2024 is the second year I've done the ‘happy exhibition,' which is just a quick headshot shoot with little kids making them laugh and finding out what makes them happy. – Alan Moyle
Episode 429: Elle Payne – When business and service become the motivator over great photography
If you're feeling overwhelmed, I think you just need to work out exactly what you want and work out a plan to get there. And if you're not not sure how to do it, then my number one advice to anybody who has a photography business is to get a coach. – Elle Payne
Katie Phillips Photography Website
Episode 514: Katie Phillips – Photography exhibitions as a marketing strategy and much more
Episode 324: Shireen Hammond – How to be the best photographer in your area and earn more
Episode 545: Katie and Jez – How to elevate your photography business
I learned marketing. I learned about CRM. I learned client relationships, IPS, I learned about website automation, anything and everything that was related to my business I found at PhotobizX. – Katie Phillips
My biggest business lesson for this year has been all about focusing on the genres that I really like to do and also the ones that are most useful for me business-wise. – Ben Shakespeare
Anne Thomas Photography Website
Anne Thomas Photography on Instagram
It's just those extra opportunities that come your way when you put yourself out of your comfort zone and kind of take that plunge. – Anne Thomas
It's hard for me to do the admin and all this stuff, but that is my big goal for 2025 is to be constantly and continually marketing using my using Facebook and continually having a campaign running for um the different genres that I shoot. – Michael Dion Thompson
I've shot 60 weddings this calendar year and I said the year before I was going to shoot less, but it resulted in shooting more. – Marcel Van der Horst
Episode 538: John Glaser – Facebook Ads and what you need to be aware of when running yours
Episode 503: John Glaser – Photography lead generation and qualifying tactics from a pro
Episode 453: John Glaser – From photographer with a business to serious business owner
Episode 397: Richard Grenfell – The Coaching Diaries with Steve Saporito
How to Advertise Like a Mofo – the training course by Richard Grenfell
The more ads you run, the more you'll see which ones resonate and work with your ideal client. – Alan Wright
If you’re a premium member, you should have received an email with links to your version of this interview – the full-length and more revealing version where you hear the absolute best tips and advice from every coach.
If you’re on the fence about becoming a premium member, join with the $1 trial today and get access to the FULL interviews each week and get access to a fantastic back catalogue of interviews and ALL future interviews delivered automatically to your phone or tablet.
Plus, you have access to a members-only Secret Facebook Group where you can connect with other members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take what you hear in each episode and put it into action. You will not find more friendly, more motivated and caring photographers online.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything away from what the PhotoBizX Premium Members shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that!
If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
If you have any missed questions or a specific question you’d like to ask me, feel free to add them to the comments area below.
Thanks again for listening, and thanks to Abi, Jeany, Damien, Tom Ryan, Paul, Ryan, Crystal, Mike, Tracey, Alexis, Ina, Matthew, Tony, Jo, Tammy, Chris, Alan, Elle, Katie, Ben, Anne, Michael, Marcel and Alan for coming on and sharing their thoughts, ideas and strategies for a successful 2025 in business as a working photographer.
If you have any suggestions, comments or questions about this episode, please be sure to leave them below in the comment section of this post, and if you liked the episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post!
That’s it for me this week, hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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Carolyne and Alisdair of www.carriesoutherton.co.uk first appeared on the podcast for episode 312, and the title was “How to build a hugely successful dog photography business.”
At the time, she was running Scotland's ONLY dedicated dog Photography Studio with SEVEN Acres of Studio Grounds, which incorporated a massive indoor studio and large showroom.
This was also home to the fantastic CATCHATHON events and images that capture those fun images of dogs you've undoubtedly seen, where they are catching a piece of cheese or food.
Since recording that interview, she and her husband Alisdair built an incredible exhibition stand and mobile studio on a large trailer. Throughout the year, they attend many dog shows and dog events with the setup to attract and book clients to their home-based outdoor acreage studio.
In this interview, Carolyne and Alisdair share all the details of their incredible workflow, shooting and sales strategy, which is unique and incredibly successful. I was shocked and delighted to hear they sell first and shoot later, which is a winning photography sales strategy that any photographer could emulate.
And yes, I'm saying they sell wall art and albums to their dog owner clients before taking a single photo!
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
If you’re on the fence about becoming a premium member, join with the $1 trial today and get access to the FULL interviews each week, a fantastic back catalogue of interviews, and have ALL future interviews delivered automatically to your phone or tablet.
Plus, special member-only interviews.
We've never been ones to sit on our back end, open the doors and expect people just to come in, because that never works. You've got to get out there, see the whites of their eyes, and talk to them. — Carolyne
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
You always look at your process. If you get the sale, figure out why. If you don’t get the sale, figure out what you could have done differently. Analyse every time. — Carolyne
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Carolyne & Alasdair shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
The way we work financially is that clients pay 50% on the day before the photo shoot. We do the photo shoot, and then they pay the balance, so 50% when they come back to view the final images to put onto their products. — Carolyne
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Carolyne & Alasdair or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
If you give too much choice to the client, you'll lose them because they get confused. Break it down to the bare minimum. Keep it simple. — Carolyne
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
When people come up here, they come up for the experience. So when they first arrive, I mean, the place is looking immaculate. I make sure of that. So when they come up, they go, ‘Wow, this is nice here.' So they're already impressed just with what they're looking at. — Alasdair
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
Here is the latest review, not for the podcast, but for the recent course by Richard Grenfell…
★★★★★ The best course you have offered!!
Via an email from Adelaide pet photographer Tanya Simmonds, in Australia on January 10th, 2025.
Thank you so much for sending the recent course with Richard – How To Advertise Like A MoFo!!
I just wanted to let you know I have only now finished watching/listening to it, and I have to say it is probably the best course you have offered!!
I can completely relate to Richard and his style. Some true gems in this course that I am implementing this minute!!
— Tanya Simmonds
★★★★★ The best photography business podcast.
Via a google review from Greenslopes Brisbane family portrait photographer Stewart Ross, in Australia on January 4th, 2025.
Thanks for your hard work and interviews over the years, Andrew.
You have created a great community and easily the best photography business podcast.
— Stewart Ross
Carrie Southerton Dog Photography Website
Carrie Southerton Dog Photography on Facebook
Episode 312: Carolyne Cowan – How to build a hugely successful dog photography business
I look at the client journey as going down a corridor with a load of open doors. You're closing one door at a time until there's only one open, and that’s the one where they sign on the dotted line. — Carolyne
Thanks so much for tuning in, and a massive shoutout to Carolyne and Alasdair for sharing their unique strategies and insights for running a super successful dog photography business. Their approach to pre-selling wall art, building trust with clients, and balancing creativity with smart business practices is inspiring. If you’ve been looking for ways to refine your sales process, connect with clients on a deeper level, and grow your business without losing your passion, this episode is for you. I can’t wait to hear what you think!
People buy from people like themselves, but if you're just doing it on the internet, they don’t get to know you personally, and you can’t show your knowledge of the subject you’re working with. — Carolyne
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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Happy New Year, and welcome to a special podcast episode to kick off 2025. For this episode, I asked some of my favourite and new-to-me photography business coaches to contribute and share their thoughts on how this year will shape photographers running their businesses following what many thought was a tough 2024 and the potentially big impact of Ai on both the creative and business side of photography.
Here's exactly what I asked each of them… Your 2025 Predictions Wanted for the PhotoBizX Podcast!
Andrew here from PhotoBizX, hope you’re well!
I’m putting together a podcast episode for a New Year release of PhotoBizX and would love to feature you and your thoughts on how you see photography businesses shaping up for 2025.
I’ll need a 5-10 minute (strictly no more than 10 minutes) audio recording to take part.
Here’s what to include:
1. Start the recording with an intro saying:
— Who you are
— The name of your business
— Briefly, what you do
2. Then, share your thoughts and predictions for photography businesses in 2025.
— You can focus on marketing and advertising trends, sales strategies, branding, social media, shifting markets, shooting multiple genres vs. specialising, or anything else photographers need to do to succeed. Take this wherever you like!
— Alternatively, share what you would do if you gave advice to a photographer moving to a new city across the country who wanted to get business up and running fast with new bookings.
3. Finish your recording by sharing where listeners can go to learn more about you.
— Choose one place—Instagram, your website, a special landing page—whatever works best for you.
You'll see a list of contributing photography business coaches below, where you can learn more about them and what they do.
I hope you enjoy and get something from this part one of a two-part 2025 New Year episode. Let's get into it!
502: Brendan Taylor – Facebook lives as a killer lead generator and some hard truths about business
557: Brendan Taylor – Photography business success all comes down to the follow up
580: Brendan Taylor – The TogPod CRM Revolution… The Future of Photography Business
So many people still in the photography industry are relying on word mouth and organic social, putting some posts out on Facebook and just hoping for the best. And that is another example of wheel of doom. You're going to keep doing it and keep getting the same results. — Brendan Taylor
The marketing landscape is evolving rapidly and while AI continues to dominate, I think the real standout in the next wave will be true organic high-end content. — Renee Bowen
252: Hart Tan – Advanced Photography Business Marketing for Big Success
What is life beyond photography? What if the things that you have done suddenly don't work anymore? What could you have done to prepare for the days you think will never come? — Hart Tan
Jeff Brown – The Photographer's Mentor
Help!! My Photography Website Needs MORE Customers: Create a photography website to capture customers, using the proven Scroll to a Sale method by Jeff Brown on Amazon
Episode 313: Jeff Brown – Leveraging LinkedIn to proactively generate more photography clients
Episode 425: Jeff Brown – How to use LinkedIn for photography lead generation
How can you make a passive income from photography? Could you write a book? Could you create some online courses? Could you be selling presets and prints? Could you do workshops and online workshops? Could you have a private mentoring group that people pay to join, giving you a monthly income? — Jeff Brown
Episode 470: Katie Kolenberg – Profitable photography book projects Q&A
Special: Katie Kolenberg – Profitable photography book projects
Shooting only what you love is the best path to success, but make sure you have the business structures around you to support that. Try to have fun with your business because your potential clients will feel that energy and want a piece of it. — Katie K
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything away from what the photography business coaches shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that!
If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business due to what you heard in today's episode.
If you have any questions we missed or a specific question you’d like to ask me, feel free to add them to the comments area below.
Thanks again for listening, and thanks to Brendan, Renee, Hart, Jeff, and Katie for coming on and sharing their thoughts, ideas and strategies for your successful 2025 in business as a working photographer.
If you have any suggestions, comments or questions about this episode, please be sure to leave them below in the comment section of this post, and if you liked the episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post!
That’s it for me this week, hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks and speak soon
Andrew
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Happy New Year, and welcome to a special podcast episode to kick off 2025. For this episode, I asked some of my favourite and new-to-me photography business coaches to contribute and share their thoughts on how this year will shape photographers running their businesses following what many thought was a tough 2024 and the potentially big impact of Ai on both the creative and business side of photography.
Here's exactly what I asked each of them… Your 2025 Predictions Wanted for the PhotoBizX Podcast!
Andrew here from PhotoBizX, hope you’re well!
I’m putting together a podcast episode for a New Year release of PhotoBizX and would love to feature you and your thoughts on how you see photography businesses shaping up for 2025.
I’ll need a 5-10 minute (strictly no more than 10 minutes) audio recording to take part.
Here’s what to include:
1. Start the recording with an intro saying:
— Who you are
— The name of your business
— Briefly, what you do
2. Then, share your thoughts and predictions for photography businesses in 2025.
— You can focus on marketing and advertising trends, sales strategies, branding, social media, shifting markets, shooting multiple genres vs. specialising, or anything else photographers need to do to succeed. Take this wherever you like!
— Alternatively, share what you would do if you gave advice to a photographer moving to a new city across the country who wanted to get business up and running fast with new bookings.
3. Finish your recording by sharing where listeners can go to learn more about you.
— Choose one place—Instagram, your website, a special landing page—whatever works best for you.
You'll see a list of contributing photography business coaches below, where you can learn more about them and what they do.
I hope you enjoy and get something from this part one of a two-part 2025 New Year episode. Let's get into it!
The rise of AI will demand adaptation and integration into business practices.
Niche photography will become even more crucial for success.
Sustainability and eco-conscious practices will gain traction with clients.
Hair of the Dog Academy on Facebook
Hair of the Dog Academy on Instagram
Hair of the Dog Academy on YouTube
Episode 273: Nicole Begley – How to generate pet photography sales from silent auctions
If we don't at least look at [AI] and ask how it can help us in our business, well, we risk being left behind. — Nicole Begley
Differentiation requires commitment to hard work, strategic planning, and embracing failure as a learning opportunity.
Building a sellable business requires long-term vision and consistent effort.
Business Plan Call with Bernie
Episode 136: Bernie Griffiths – A Challenge for You to Book More Portrait Photography Sessions
Episode 30: Bernie Griffiths – Photography Business Success Coach
Episode 198: Bernie Griffiths – Facebook Ads and The Missing Link To Successful Sales
Episode 231: Bernie Griffiths – How to Make the Successful Leap to Pro Photographer
Episode 271: Bernie Griffiths – Your Photography Business Questions Answered plus WanderSnap
Episode 363: Bernie Griffiths – Business growth for wedding and portrait photographers
Episode 326: Marcus Anthony – This is how you run a successful portrait photography business
Episode 350: Brian Kellogg – Making the move from wedding photography to profitable portraits
Some photographers will choose 2025 to do something hard for one or two years, and their lives will look very different after that period has passed. — Bernie Griffiths
Authenticity and behind-the-scenes content will resonate with clients seeking genuine connections.
Reconnecting with your “why” and showcasing the emotional impact of your work will attract ideal clients.
Book More Photography Clients Podcast
The more people can see behind the scenes, the more they are going to really be drawn to you and your brand. — Brooke Jefferson
Leverage technology and trends like AI and outsourcing as tools to optimize your process and reclaim your time.
Relationship-centric marketing is key to long-term success, focusing on building genuine connections with clients.
Mindset is the ultimate superpower; how you think determines your outcomes.
Challenges in your business are not coming from the economy, your competition, or the market conditions. They are coming from your own brain. — Heather Lahtinen
Proactive marketing strategies are vital in a potentially fluctuating economy.
Mindset work is crucial to overcoming limiting beliefs and taking decisive action.
330: Johl Dunn – How to create a money making portrait photography business
526: Johl Dunn – Modern day marketing and success for portrait photographers
556: Johl Dunn – Unlock Your Photography Business Potential and Stop
It's no longer valuable or viable… just to rely on word of mouth, SEO, Insta, reachouts…they're all passive marketing techniques. — Johl Dunn
Adaptability and flexibility are crucial for navigating continuous change.
AI adoption will provide significant advantages to photographers, while resistance may hinder growth.
Human connection and customer experience will become even more vital as AI evolves.
Episode 420: Kim Hamblin – How to build a photography business to sell
2025 Business Planner for Photographers
The photographers who learn and utilise AI in their business are going to save a lot of time, save a lot of money, and also earn a lot more money. — Kim Marie
In-person sales, particularly of printed products like wall art and albums, are key to profitability.
Focus on internal improvement and growth rather than external factors you can't control.
The Profitable Photographer on YouTube
The Profitable Photographer on Instagram
Episode 253: Luci Dumas – Working with Community Groups to Rapidly Grow Your Photography Client List
Episode 314: Luci Dumas – How to make larger wall portrait sales in your photography business
Be careful with digitals so that you're not giving away the farm, but keep focused…on the value of having you print beautiful work for them in the perfect way. — Luci Dumas
If you’re a premium member, you should have received an email with links to your version of this interview – the full-length and more revealing version where you hear the absolute best tips and advice from every coach.
If you’re on the fence about becoming a premium member, join with the $1 trial today and get access to the FULL interviews each week and get access to a fantastic back catalogue of interviews and ALL future interviews delivered automatically to your phone or tablet.
Plus, you have access to a members-only Secret Facebook Group where you can connect with other members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take what you hear in each episode and put it into action. You will not find more friendly, more motivated and caring photographers online.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything away from what the photography business coaches shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that!
If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
If you have any missed questions or a specific question you’d like to ask me, feel free to add them to the comments area below.
Thanks again for listening, and thanks to Nicole, Bernie, Brooke, Heather, Johl, Kim and Luci for coming on and sharing their thoughts, ideas and strategies for a successful 2025 in business as a working photographer.
If you have any suggestions, comments or questions about this episode, please be sure to leave them below in the comment section of this post, and if you liked the episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post!
That’s it for me this week, hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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John Dolan of www.johndolan.com is a superstar in the world of photography.
He has built a career in advertising, editorial and fine art photography over the past 30 years. He is the author of the book — The Perfect Imperfect, which has the foreword written by none other than Martha Stewart.
One of the testimonials I read online was by Jerry Seinfeld who said:
“John has photographed our family for 20 years. It is, to us, a priceless view of who we are and wouldn’t exist without his gifted shutter, lens and eye.”
He has photographed celebrities' weddings, including Will Smith, Gwyneth Paltrow, Ben Stiller, and so many more.
He says… Some photographers are directors. I’m a collector.
And that his target is 15 amazing photographs from a wedding.
He still shoots 70% film and believes weddings are too important to play it safe.
In this interview, John shares the secrets for success by balancing art, business, and authentic storytelling with your photography.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
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The celebrities are different, but I think one of the skills I've learned over the years is how to get comfortable with people very quickly. It's part of our toolkit, and it's an amazing skill that where you skip the small talk and you get trusted. – John Dolan
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
I never look at my phone during a wedding. I don't look at shot lists. I don't look at timelines. I am so in tuned with what the couple is going through. I'm completely focused on them. And the wedding industry is always only shown this really narrow band of, you know, it's your best day ever. And I've always thought this is the widest number of emotions you'll feel in one day. And so that's, that's my guiding principle. – John Dolan
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what John shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
I really I run a very simple, not a mom-and-pop business, but a very streamlined business. My contracts are very simple. Because everything's based on trust, even with some of my celebrities, I never did NDAs because I said to them, “You can destroy me in a tweet. So you can trust me. I will not break our trust, because the downside risk is so big. A piece of paper is not going to, you know, scare me as much as your two thumbs.” – John Dolan
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask John or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
If you show pictures that you love, that are made from your heart and that move yourself, move your spouse or your partner, then you're going to find those clients, especially when it's 10 or 15. That's all part of the same system that you're not trying to please the world. You're trying to please yourself, and then please those, find those 15 cool people. – John Dolan
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
Uncertainty is the most reliable thing in being freelance. That's the only thing I've learned for 30 years. I certainly could have run my business in a more professional way, but I never wanted to be professional. I wanted to be personal. – John Dolan
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
Here is the latest review, not for PhotoBizX, but for Alex Vita of Foreground Web, who delivered the recent SEO and UX training.
★★★★★ Alex Vita is AMAZING!
Via an email from Wisconsin dog and equine photographer Jan Bezzo, in the USA on December 13th, 2024.
Andrew! I just got off a Zoom call with Alex, and can I just say, he is AMAZING (not that you didn't already know that). I finally had the privilege to meet with him, and he reviewed my website using words I understood. Not only is Alex super helpful, but he goes way above and beyond. Such an incredible human! Thanks again for hosting Alex's recent SEO and UX training. Have a wonderful weekend, JanJoin the upcoming masterclass, “AI-Powered Marketing for Photographers: Part 4 — Prepping for Less Work and More Money in 2025 with AI,” led by Brianna Shrader of Shy Heart Studios.
It's happening later this week, on December 19th, 2024, at 8:00 am AEDT via Zoom.
Here's what Brianna will be covering:
Early registrations will receive a USD$100 credit toward any current PhotoBizX course.
Secure your spot now for USD$197; note that the price increases to $397 after the live event.
If you cannot attend live, registering ensures access to the recording, course materials, prompts, and the standalone course at a 50% discount.
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John Dolan: The Perfect Imperfect: The Wedding Photographs
You have to micro-target who you want to appeal to. If you really want to be unleashed with your photography, you have to show those unleashed pictures, and then the people will find you. – John Dolan
Thanks for listening, and a big thank you to John for sharing his amazing journey and ideas for building a photography career with passion and purpose. His honest approach to balancing creativity with a successful business and strong client relationships will hopefully inspire you to stay true to your style, build trust, and keep chasing your photography dreams.
I changed my business model, now, every wedding I take I have to love. I did a few weddings just for the money, and they destroyed me. They really crushed my soul. The pictures actually were beautiful and fake. So after that, I just try to make every couple who I meet really align with me, if I can, or try to find the that meeting point. – John Dolan
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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Claire Thomas www.clairethomasphotography.com was briefly interviewed as a lead-up to Alex Vita's recent SEO and Website User Experience Masterclass. The reason is that Alex built her website, which she says has been life-changing for her business.
I also said in that introduction that if you were to visit her website, I'm confident that you would love, love, love to have her portfolio as your own. The images are fantastic, and the subject matter and locations are just so varied.
This is a photographer who appears to be living her best life. She is leaving a trail of gorgeous imagery like breadcrumbs, revealing snippets of what she's seen, where she's been, and who she's met.
From Europe and the Middle East to the USA, Asia and Africa, war-torn cities, landscape vistas, and intimate portraits—there isn't much missing from this incredible portfolio.
In this interview, Claire shares how to survive and thrive as a freelance documentary, editorial, and fine art photographer.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
A child receives emergency treatment for head trauma and other injuries at a makeshift field clinic set up inside an abandoned store on the edge of Mosul's Old City, Iraq, on July 2, 2017.
As the fighting continued to liberate the remaining pocket of ISIS-held territory in Mosul, civilians who had been held hostage inside the Old City risked their lives to escape the fighting under heavy ISIS sniper fire. Medics from international medical organisations Global Response Management and Academy of Emergency Medicine, together with Iraqi forces medics, worked around the clock to treat injured civilians, many of whom showed signs of severe malnutrition after enduring months without enough food, water and fuel.
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There's no real roadmap, I think, to success as a photojournalist. It's hard, and everybody has their own way of making it happen. It was a struggle, continues to be a struggle. But I just love storytelling, and it's such a privilege to meet people and have the opportunity to be able to try and share their stories. – Claire Thomas
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
I just love these connections, you know, whether or not I make money, I don't care about that, but it does mean a lot to me to get the stories published. – Claire Thomas
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Twelve-year-old Arkalak trains his eagle in the Altai mountains of western Mongolia. In keeping with Kazakh tradition, Arkalak followed in his father's footsteps and began training his own eagle at the age of ten. October 2019.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Claire shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
As a freelancer, it's quite tricky to make ends meet. You've got to be doing a lot of stories to make ends meet. There's more money with NGOs, UN agencies—this supplements the income. – Claire Thomas
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Claire or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
When I have an article in The New York Times, for example, it draws people to my website, and then I'll have a surge in print sales. – Claire Thomas
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
Since I've had this website, thanks to Alex, it's just given me a way to showcase my work in a way that brings me a lot of joy, which I didn't have before. – Claire Thomas
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
During this FREE advertising and conversion training, you'll learn:
To register and get more details, head to: https://learn.photobizx.com/advertise-like-a-mofo/
A camel yawns in front of the Pyramids at Giza, Cairo, April 2015.
Claire's original and short interview with Andrew on YouTube
Episode 108: Alex Vita – How To Build A Photography Website That Converts Visitors To Clients
Episode 268: Alex Vita – Everything you need for a successful photography website
A cowboy rides a horse in front of the Grand Teton mountain range in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Thanks for listening, and a massive thank you to Claire Thomas for sharing her incredible journey and insights into building a photography career fueled by passion and purpose. Claire’s honest approach to balancing creativity with business strategy and diversified income streams will hopefully encourage you to stay resilient and chase your photographic dreams.
My prints range from the limited edition ones. The open editions are smaller, but the limited edition starts at 16 by 24 inches. And this I have is a limited edition of 50. So I've found those to be quite, quite popular, because it's quite a manageable size. I sell those for $1,250 for the initial set. – Claire Thomas
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
Claire fitted out in combat gear while working to cover another conflict.
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Heidi Thompson of www.evolveyourweddingbusiness.com is a wedding business coach, marketing strategist and best-selling author.
She was last featured on the podcast for episode 218, where she shared how you can clone your best photography clients.
She believes that too many photographers get into photography for some kind of freedom—freedom from working for a boss, working the 9-5, basically, having the freedom to spend their time the way they want to. In many cases, however, photographers work harder than they would in a regular job as an employee.
Her job is to help you reclaim your time, escape burnout and love your business.
On her website, she says to think of her as your tough-love business bestie who will call you out on your B.S. and give it to you straight because she truly wants the best for you.
Before teaching marketing to wedding professionals, she marketed a lot of things, including poo! Yes, human poo for a company that specialises in fecal transplants. She says if she can market poo, she can certainly help you market your photography!
In this episode, Heidi shares why your photography marketing might be failing and how to fix it.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
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I'm all for experimenting and trying new things and seeing what you can make work. But what I always tell my clients is you need to limit yourself to one experiment at a time, because if you don't, you really can't give it your all. You're gonna kind of half ass it, and then you never know, are the results you're getting from that, because you didn't really go all out with it, or is it actually not a good fit for your business. – Heidi Thompson
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
Most people don't have time, and that's a huge, huge problem, because if you don't have time to market your business, you're probably not going to get a whole lot of business, so we have to make the time for that. And the first thing I have people do is actually audit where they're spending their time. – Heidi Thompson
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Heidi shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
I love giving people permission to quit stuff. We all spend time on things we feel maybe a good idea in the moment. Or we read or hear something, and we were like, ‘Oh, I'm going to try that.' And I am all for trying new things, but you have to make sure it makes sense, and make sure there's room. – Heidi Thompson
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Heidi or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
The only solution to you making more money is not raising prices. I'm not saying don't do it, but it's not the only lever you can pull. – Heidi Thompson
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
If you don't have time for the people you care about though, you don't have time for the things you enjoy doing, you tell yourself you don't have time for yourself, especially any hobbies, activities you like doing working out, like actually using your body so you can take care of yourself. And the worst one is, I don't have time to sleep, because that is such an unacceptable statement to me. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sleep comes first, always. Everything else has to fit in around that if you are sacrificing your sleep and everything else that you started this business for, you are probably headed right into burnout. – Heidi Thompson
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
There's a big sale on everything PhotoBizX this week!
Details here: https://photobizx.com/blackfriday
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The Machete Method to Slashing Your Way Through Overwhelm
Evolve Your Wedding Business Podcast
Evolve Your Wedding Business on Facebook
Evolve Your Wedding Business on Instagram
I think, especially with SEO and anything marketing, I don't advise you to hire anybody until you have enough of an understanding to know if you're getting scammed. – Heidi Thompson
Episode 218: Heidi Thompson – How To Clone Your Best Photography Clients
Episode 053: Fer Juaristi – Success and Happiness as a Wedding Photographer
Thanks for tuning in, and a huge thank you to Heidi for sharing her insights on reclaiming your time, escaping burnout, and building a photography business you truly love. Her no-nonsense approach to marketing, tips on forging strong referral relationships, and advice on staying focused on strategies that truly grow your business were all first-class. Heidi’s tough-love approach to her clients will hopefully push you to think smarter, work more effectively, and build a brand that aligns with the freedom you wanted when starting out.
People pay more to have something that's different and unique. – Heidi Thompson
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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James Christianson and Otto Schulze of www.jamesandschulze.com and www.sagejourney.co are wedding photographers servicing the ultra-luxury wedding photography market.
They joined forces around 7 years ago after each running individual wedding photography businesses for close to 15 years.
I've heard them say they are still competing with each other, and the only difference is that today, they share a bank account.
They both believe that moving into the premium and luxury space can be a game-changer for any photography business owner.
In this candid interview, you'll hear two self-proclaimed ordinary guys and dads who created an extraordinary business that has been named one of the top 50 photographers in the world by Harper's Bazaar and featured numerous times by Vogue.
To me, ordinary sounds unbelievable when these guys have Photographed the weddings of fashion icon Ralph Lauren’s family and operate in the high-flying circles most of us will only ever dream about.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
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We realised early on, if we want this new brand to take off, we have to hold and say, ‘No, you can't do that,' because otherwise we'll just repeat that cycle for year in and year out. If you hold, the audience takes the message, and so eventually they completely change their minds. – Otto Schulze
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
We always say, a successful call is one where we have talked very little. We don't go with a pitch. – James Christianson
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what James and Otto shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
Information is not alluring. So we don't give information. You just show enough to create the hook, and that's that. But it's different with different markets. The ultra luxury buyers' buying psychology, how they buy and how we buy, is not the same as every other market and we understand that. – Otto Schulze
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask James and Otto or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
In the beginning it is a hard thing to say, like you almost apologetically, say, “Oh, we charge $30,000,” or whatever it might be, and you just have to say it over and over and over again. Like, say it to my spouse, say it to Otto a bunch of times. Say it to my friends, say it out loud until you believe it. Because if you don't believe it, you can't sell it. – James Christianson
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
Both of us, individually, were already shooting, charging $12,000 to $18,000 on our own. So, we had to at least double. And then at double, we were like, okay, that that's not really the goal. The goal is to elevate to go after even bigger. – James Christianson
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
There's a big sale on everything PhotoBizX this week!
Details here: https://photobizx.com/blackfriday
IF YOU ARE ON THE $20 PER MONTH PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP, THE 12-MONTH OPTION IS A NO-BRAINER…
12-Month Premium Membership — 40% off — $120
Sign up for the 12-month option and cancel your $20 payments (or let me know, and I'll cancel for you).
Note: If you paid your monthly membership in November, let me know, and I'll get that refunded for you, too.
Specials are available from now until Tuesday 3rd December.
Here's the link again: https://photobizx.com/blackfriday
IMPORTANT: No matter what you purchase, if you feel something isn't a good fit, let me know, and I'll happily refund you. Or feel free to ask if you're unsure about something.
James and Schulze on Instagram
Michelle Rago – full-service boutique planning firm
I honestly think that's the biggest driver of success with them, is just the humility to keep coming, understanding that I'm not the most important thing in their lives. So when I reach out, they're not going, ‘Oh my gosh. It's Otto from James and Schulze.' They're busy, and so I'll just keep coming politely, not annoyingly. – Otto Schulze
TPX11: Bradley Hanson – Get Inspired and Stay True to Your Photographic Vision
Aid Brad Hanson's Rehabilitation Journey
Thanks for tuning in, and a big thank you to James and Otto for sharing their journey and how to break into the super luxury wedding photography market. It was inspiring to hear about their approach to building a luxury photography brand, staying confident in their pricing, forging meaningful relationships with planners, and empowering all of us to think bigger.
You don't create value by giving stuff away. – Otto Schulze
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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Premium Members, click here to access this interview in the premium area
Amy Donovan of www.amydonovanphoto.com and www.amydonovanboudoir.com was someone I was looking forward to recording with, following an email exchange, seeing both her websites and multiple social media accounts.
For example…
I love that her two websites are basically one-page websites, just like those promoted and shared by photography business coach Jeff Brown in his recent podcast interview.
And Amy tells me her websites have been performing well. Between them and Facebook ads, she says she has been lucky to stay busy for many years.
Amy focuses on two separate genres—boudoir and weddings—depending on the season. Her annual revenue ranges from $150,000 to $180,000.
In that email exchange, I asked Amy what she hoped to cover in this interview, and she said…
I’m not looking to promote my photography business through interviews. My current focus is sharing why I do what I do. I've been noticing an epidemic of our culture using photography to diminish women's value. This isn't philosophical talk or a fancy public speaking point. I see the negative impact every day in my work.
My reply was an enthusiastic… I’m all in for a discussion on this topic.
However, as a business-focused podcast, we will be keen to hear about Amy, her photography business, and how these topics tie into her marketing, ads, referrals, etc.
She was all in, and here we are, talking about weddings to boudoir and how Amy's minimalist approach has led to $180k photography business.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
If you’re on the fence about becoming a premium member, join with the $1 trial today and get access to the FULL interviews each week, a fantastic back catalogue of interviews, and have ALL future interviews delivered automatically to your phone or tablet.
Plus, special member-only interviews.
Hearing somebody say, ‘You look great.' ‘You're doing a good job.' ‘You have good posture.' ‘You have nice eyes.' Whatever it is, hearing a good thing about yourself instantly changes the way that you feel about yourself, and it instantly disarms you, and it makes you breathe easier and your shoulders come down. – Amy Donovan
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
Most of my clients who would book through Instagram will tell me, when they show up through their session, that they have followed me for years. So none of that is like instantaneous. – Amy Donovan
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Amy shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
I honestly think the building relationships is the most successful part of my business. That's where most of my clients come from, that they just know me and will message me… and I can honestly say most of my wedding customers and nearly all of my boudoir clients, we end up being friends by the end. – Amy Donovan
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Amy or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
What I am really good at is developing relationships. Instagram is all about being pretty, you've got one second for people to like what you've posted, and then they click the button, and maybe they're going to like a reel. You find what you want to look at on Instagram. But I think if you're going to build like a community or a relationship with somebody, it's going to be through Facebook. Because you're going to see that person, you're going to see their kids, you're going to see what they're up to. – Amy Donovan
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
That lady's opinion of me does not matter. Clearly, she's living some sort of miserable existence, and maybe she needed a hug, but you put on the shorts, you proceed, you go live your life and don't worry about what anybody else thinks of you. – Amy Donovan
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
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Whether your current website just needs some TLC or you’re starting from scratch, this masterclass will equip you with everything you need to create a site that’s not just functional—but profitable.
When: November 21st at 8 am (AEDT) Sydney Local Time. Your local time is here.
Why: To learn how to build a killer photography website that makes both visitors & Google happy and gets you results.
Cost: USD$147 — price doubles after the live training is delivered and bonuses disappear.
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Amy Donovan Focused on Instagram
Amy Donovan Photo on Instagram
Amy Donovan Boudoir on Instagram
Jeff Brown Interview on One Page Photography Websites that work
Thanks for tuning in, and a big thank you to Amy Donovan for sharing her journey with us. It was great to hear about her approach to balancing multiple photography genres, keeping things simple, building authentic connections through social media that lead to bookings, and maintaining simplicity in her branding.
Boudoir is exactly where I want to be. A good boudoir client pays more than a wedding, and it fills my cup. – Amy Donovan
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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Premium Members, click here to access this interview in the premium area
Aurelie Graillot of www.aureliegraillot.com appeared on my radar after interviewing Steve Tepp from Rights Click, where we talked about all things copyright in episode 583.
After the email introduction, I looked at her website and was blown away! This French-born, American-raised photographer describes herself as a still-life photographer, but I don't feel that description goes far enough.
I would say commercial, advertising, beauty and cosmetics photographer who is an absolute master of photography, light, colour, composition and style.
If you suffer from imposter syndrome as a photographer… do not visit Aurelie's website… her work is truly incredible.
Aurelie’s insights are a goldmine for commercial, advertising, and branding photographers looking to build a sustainable, authentic career. Whether you're just starting out or already established, this interview offers real-world advice on everything from brand-building to adapting to a tech-driven world while balancing creativity, business, and life lessons from this super-talented commercial photographer.
Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:
If you’re on the fence about becoming a premium member, join with the $1 trial today and get access to the FULL interviews each week, a fantastic back catalogue of interviews, and have ALL future interviews delivered automatically to your phone or tablet.
Plus, special member-only interviews.
Low-balling your own rate is not necessarily a good business strategy… You’re devaluing yourself if you bring down your rate just to try to get a job. – Aurelie Graillot
You'll also receive access to the members-only Secret Facebook Group, where you can connect with other Premium Members and interview guests to help, support and motivate you to take ideas you hear in each episode and put them into action. The group also has FB live video tutorials, role-play, and special live interviews. You will not find more friendly, motivated, caring and sharing photographers online.
Seriously, that's not all.
You have to ask yourself, in the commercial world, what is the message that my client is trying to send out to the world, and I need to make sure that’s set or shown. – Aurelie Graillot
In addition to everything above, you'll get access to instructions on forming or joining a MasterMind Group with other premium members. These groups are super motivating, make you accountable, and build friendships with other pro photographers with motives similar to yours – to build a more successful photography business.
Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Aurelie shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on what you heard in today's episode.
Regarding AI and photography, it's our ideas that we're putting together, and if you can make it work in a really elegant way, then it works. If it looks cheap, that's what cheapens it. – Aurelie Graillot
If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Aurelie or want to say thank you for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.
I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons.
Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!
Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.
Some of it is experimentation. Doing test shoots. You learn a lot that way. You know, if you're trying to accomplish a certain look and feel, then you need to take the time to light in as many different ways, or test out different things. – Aurelie Graillot
If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help both me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.
Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.
Everything is based on usage, and every client has a different usage need, so it's all negotiated… You have to navigate the rate world based on what the usage request is. – Aurelie Graillot
Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.
Here is the latest review…
★★★★★ My favourite photography business podcast!
Via Google Reviews by Carlsbad family photographer HeatherMoreau, in the USA on November 7th, 2024.
This is hands-down my favourite photography business podcast!
Each episode is an incredible resource packed with valuable insights that truly blow me away.
As a small business owner, it makes me feel connected to a larger, inspiring community of professional photographers.
I highly recommend this podcast to any professional photographer—get ready to binge-listen because you won’t be able to get enough. Enjoy!
Are you looking to make your website work better for your business? Join this masterclass with Alex Vita, a web design expert and my go-to for anything web-related, who’s built over 300 photography websites worldwide. He’ll show you how to transform your site into a client-attracting, Google-friendly asset for your business.
Whether you’re updating an existing site or building a new one, this masterclass will give you the tools to create a site you’re proud of — and one that works hard for your business.
When: November 21st at 8 am (AEDT) Sydney Local Time. Your local time is here.
Why: To learn how to build a killer photography website that makes both visitors & Google happy and gets you results.
Cost: USD$147 — price doubles after the live training is delivered and bonuses disappear.
More details and registration here: https://learn.photobizx.com/photography-website-user-experience-and-seo-registration/
Creating Magic Through Still Life Photography with Aurélie Graillot via YouTube
Aurelie Graillot Portfolio on Ray Brown
Episode 583: Steve Tepp – Copyright Essentials for Photographers
Thanks for tuning in, and a huge thank you to Aurelie for sharing her journey with us. Her insights on finding a unique style, building a memorable brand, and adapting to new challenges like AI offer invaluable lessons for photographers at every stage. From overcoming imposter syndrome to balancing a thriving career with family life, Aurelie’s story is a testament to the power of resilience, creativity, and continuous learning in today’s photography world.
It's the young companies that think they can get away with it, or they don't understand that they can get into some pretty big financial trouble if they infringe on copyright. – Aurelie Graillot
That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!
Thanks, and speak soon
Andrew
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