Healthcare IT Today

John Lynn and Colin Hung

The world of technology and healthcare are every changing in new and novel ways. That's why we love healthcare IT so much. Join us as we discuss the latest healthcare and Health IT News meshed together in new ways which help generate ideas and new perspectives. Plus, we'll have a little fun along the way.

  • 26 minutes 19 seconds
    RSNA 2024 Conference Preview - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 153

    For the 153rd episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are talking about the upcoming RSNA 2024 Conference! We kick this preview off by discussing what we think will be the hottest topics of discussion at the conference. Then on the flip side, we talk about what topics we think won’t be discussed at RSNA but believe should be. RSNA brings together a large group of people and companies looking forward to making connections and demonstrating what they have to offer. So for our next topic, we share what companies and technologies we are personally looking forward to seeing. Lastly, we wrap this episode up by debating on what is a ‘must do’ while we’re in Chicago for this conference.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • What will be the hottest topics of discussion at RSNA?
    • What topics won’t be discussed at RSNA that should be?
    • What are some of the companies and technologies that you’re looking forward to seeing at the conference?
    • What’s on your “must do” list in Chicago?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

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    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    11 November 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 29 minutes 9 seconds
    Is Patient Experience Marketing or Tech? - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 152

    For the 152nd episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are analyzing the patient experience to decide if it is marketing or tech! We kick this episode off on the marketing side of the debate by listing which aspects of patient experience are marketing. Then we do the same for the tech side of the argument and find which aspects fall under tech. Next, we discuss if having to bridge the gap between marketing and tech causes the patient experience to suffer. Lastly, we end this episode with some examples of companies and organizations that have successfully bridged the gap between marketing and tech.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • What aspects of patient experience are marketing?
    • What aspects of patient experience are tech?
    • Does patient experience suffer because you have to bridge the gap between marketing and tech?
    • What are some examples of companies or organizations bridging this gap?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    28 October 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 29 minutes 34 seconds
    HLTH 2024 Conference Preview - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 151

    For the 151st episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are doing a preview for the upcoming HLTH Conference! We kick this episode off by taking a look at the name of this conference to discuss if it is H L T H or HEALTH. Then we direct our attention to the conference’s audience. HLTH brings people together from all over the healthcare ecosystem – providers, payors, device makers, startups, etc. – so we share our opinions on whether this is a good thing or not. Next, we talk about what we are looking forward to the most at HLTH, outside of reconnecting with old friends and making new ones. Then we discuss which topics and trends we are keeping an ear out for and/or investigating while we’re at HLTH 2024. Lastly, we wrap this episode up by sharing what companies we think will be making news while at HLTH.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • Is it H L T H or HEALTH?
    • HLTH brings together many different parts of the healthcare ecosystem. There are providers, payors, pharma companies, device makers, investors, established vendors, and startups. Is that a good thing in your opinion?
    • Other than seeing everyone and meeting new people, what are you looking forward to the most at HLTH?
    • Is there a topic or trend that you are going to be paying attention to or investigating while you are at HLTH?
    • Which companies will be making news at HLTH?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    14 October 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 58 seconds
    Big Deal, Little Deal, No Deal - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 150

    For the 150th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are deciding if different topics in healthcare are a big deal, a little deal, or no deal at all! First up, we are making that decision on Epic having 190 million patients use MyChart with 5 billion logins each year. Next, we take a look at how 46% of healthcare organizations are now hosting their databases all or mostly in the cloud compared to 36% of other sectors doing the same to decide if that’s a big deal, little deal, or no deal. Then we talk about whether or not it is a big deal that a larger percentage of payors accepted fax submissions in 2024 than in 2023 and 15% more payors returned prior auth determinations via fax in 2024 than in 2023. Our last topic of discussion for big deal, little deal, or no deal is this podcast reaching 150 episodes.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • Big Deal, Little Deal, No Deal that Epic had 190 Million patients use MyChart with 5 Billion logins each year?
    • Big Deal, Little Deal, No Deal that 46% of healthcare organizations now host their databases all or mostly in the cloud vs 36% for other sectors according to a study by Redgate?
    • Big Deal, Little Deal, No Deal that a larger percentage of payors accepted fax submissions in 2024 than did in 2023 and 15% more payors returned prior auth determinations via fax in 2024 than did in 2023 according to an Infinitus Systems report studying trends in prior authorization?
    • Big Deal, Little Deal, No Deal that we are on our 150th episode?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    30 September 2024, 3:00 pm
  • An Epic Update from Epic's UGM - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 149

    For the 149th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are talking about the recent Epic UGM Conference! We kick this episode off by sharing what the experience was like at Epic UGM. Then we discuss what direction Epic is going moving forward. Next, we talk about some of the areas we can potentially see experience Epic disruption such as payer platform, nurse scheduling, virtual rounding and virtual sitting, etc. Lastly, we discuss the areas of health IT that we don’t think Epic will disrupt.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • What was the experience like at Epic UGM (Epic’s user conference)?
    • Where is Epic going directionally?
    • Possible Areas of Epic Disruption:
      • Payer Platform
      • Aura for Labs
      • Aura for Medical Devices
      • Surgical Device Manufacturer Planning
      • OR Scheduling
      • Nurse Scheduling
      • Washington State Epic Instance/Epic Garden Plot
      • Clearinghouse
      • Provider Profiles
      • Virtual Rounding and Virtual Sitting
      • And more…
    • Areas of Health IT that Epic Won’t Disrupt

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    16 September 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 30 minutes 29 seconds
    The Death of Retail Health - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 148

    For the 148th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are talking about the death of retail health…or is it not really dead? We start this episode off by discussing whether or not we were shocked by the closing of retail health clinics from Walmart, Dollar General, and others. Then, we take a look at Walgreens, CVS, and Amazon to see if they are heading for a similar fate, and more broadly if retail health as a whole is dying off. Next, we discuss the positives of retail health – sharing the good things that have come from it and the lessons we learned along the way. We then conclude this episode by sharing our thoughts on what we think the future holds for retail health.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • Were you shocked when Walmart, Dollar General, and others shuttered their retail health clinics?
    • Are Walgreens, CVS, and Amazon headed for the same endpoint? Meaning, are we in the twilight of retail health?
    • What are some of the good things & lessons learned from retail health?
    • What do you think the future is for retail health?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    3 September 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 29 minutes 38 seconds
    Ripped from the Headlines: CrowdStrike, ONC, Biden/Trump, and the Olympics - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 147

    For the 147th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are taking inspiration from recent headlines! First, we take a look at the CrowdStrike outage to discuss any updates on the situation and what we have learned from this incident. Then we talk about ONC’s elevation to “Assistant Secretary for Technology Policy” within HHS. Next, we move into the political space to debate whether or not Biden’s dropping out of the presidential race and/or Trump’s assassination attempt will have an impact on healthcare. Finally, using the Olympics as inspiration we discuss what the events would be if healthcare had an Olympics.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • CrowdStrike Update Downtime – What Did We Learn?
    • ONC Elevated to “Assistant Secretary for Technology Policy” within HHS
    • Will Biden Dropping Out and the Trump Assassination Attempt Impact Healthcare?
    • If Healthcare Had an Olympics, What Would Be Included?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    19 August 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 28 minutes 37 seconds
    Eliminating Manual Work - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 146

    The 146th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast is sponsored by Vyne Medical and this time we are talking about eliminating manual work with special guest host, Scott Overholt, Chief Business Development Officer at Vyne Medical! To kick this episode off, we discuss the current state of the administrative office in healthcare. Then, we talk about what some of the keys to streamlining the administrative office are. Next, we debate over whether or not faxes should be dead in healthcare. Finally, we end this episode by talking about how healthcare organizations can improve their work with faxes.

    Thank you to our sponsor, Vyne Medical! If your health system is overwhelmed by manual administrative tasks, Vyne Medical’s solutions can help. By automating routine front-end processes like the capturing, managing, and exchanging of data, their software integrates with your EMR system to automatically index data to the patient record. With Vyne Medical, hospital teams can spend less time on mindless manual work and more time utilizing team members’ unique strengths. Learn how Vyne Medical’s technology is reducing healthcare’s manual tasks at vynemedical.com.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • What’s the state of the administrative office in healthcare today?
    • What are some keys to streamlining the administrative office?
    • Should the fax be dead in healthcare?
    • How can healthcare organizations improve their work with faxes?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    5 August 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 40 seconds
    Do Penalties Work to Motivate Healthcare? - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 145

    For the 145th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are debating the effectiveness of penalties on motivating desired behaviors in healthcare! To kick this episode off, we dive into whether or not penalties work in healthcare to motivate organizations. Next, we look to see where penalties have worked in healthcare in the past. Then we discuss financial penalties to determine if they are the most effective form of penalties. Lastly, we conclude this episode by sharing if there are any areas in which we think a penalty needs to be applied.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • Do penalties work in healthcare to motivate organizations to a desired behavior?
    • Where have penalties worked in healthcare?
    • Are financial penalties the most effective form of penalties?
    • Is there anywhere you think a penalty needs to be applied?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    22 July 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 28 minutes 1 second
    Is Epic the Biggest Obstacle to Interoperability in Healthcare? - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 144

    For the 144th episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are discussing interoperability in healthcare! We kick this episode off by debating whether or not Epic is the biggest obstacle to interoperability in healthcare. Then we discuss the other obstacles we can see to interoperability. Next, we try to problem-solve and talk about what could be changed to help make interoperability more of a reality today. Finally, we look towards the future and theorize where we will be with interoperability 10 years from now.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • Is Epic the biggest obstacle to interoperability in healthcare?
    • What other obstacles are there to interoperability in healthcare?
    • What could be changed that would help make interoperability more of a reality today?
    • 10 Years from now, where will we be with interoperability in healthcare?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    8 July 2024, 3:40 pm
  • 28 minutes 7 seconds
    4 Random Health IT Questions - Healthcare IT Today Podcast Episode 143

    For the 143rd episode of the Healthcare IT Today Podcast we are discussing 4 random health IT questions provided by our colleague! First, we discuss which aspects of AI worry us when it comes to healthcare/health IT. Then we talk about the things in health IT that we feel are mid. The third random topic we discuss in this episode is the health IT companies we think are killing it right now and why. Lastly, we share what our favorite cities to attend a conference at are and why.

    Here’s a preview of the topics and questions we discuss in this episode:

    • What aspects of AI worry you when it comes to healthcare/health IT?
    • What are the things in health IT that you feel are “Mid”?
    • Which health IT companies are “killing it” right now and why?
    • What’s been your favorite cities to attend a conference at and why?

    Now, without further ado, we’re excited to share with you the next episode of the Healthcare IT Today podcast.

    We publish a new Healthcare IT Today podcast every ~2 weeks. Thanks to our friends at Healthcare Now Radio, you’ll be able to listen to the latest episodes of Healthcare IT Today on their radio station for the first two weeks. Then, we’ll be publishing each episode as a podcast and YouTube video here after it finishes on the radio.

    You can also subscribe to the Healthcare IT Today podcast on any of the following platforms:

    Thanks for listening to Healthcare IT Today and if you enjoy the content we’re sharing, please rate the podcast on your favorite podcasting platform.

    Along with the popular podcasting platforms above, you can Subscribe to Healthcare IT Today on YouTube.  Plus, all of the audio and video versions will be made available to stream on HealthcareITToday.com.

    If you work in Healthcare IT, we’d love to hear where you agree and/or disagree with the perspectives we shared. Feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives in the comments of this post, in the YouTube comments, with @Colin_Hung or @techguy on Twitter, or privately on our Contact Us page. Let us know what you think of the podcast and if you have any ideas for future episodes.

    Thanks so much for listening!

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    24 June 2024, 3:00 pm
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