CHURN FM

Andrew Michael

CHURN FM is the podcast for subscription economy pros. Every Wednesday we hear how the world’s fastest growing companies are tackling churn and using retention & engagement to fuel their growth.

  • 37 minutes 23 seconds
    E244 | Enhancing Product and Customer Success Alignment to Deliver Customer Value with PagerDuty's VP of CS, Heather Brown

    Today on the show we have Heather Brown, the VP of Global Commercial Sales and Customer Success at PagerDuty. 

    In this episode, Heather shares her extensive experience in bridging the gap between product development and customer success to enhance company performance and customer value. 

    We dive into the innovative strategies PagerDuty employs to ensure these two critical areas are not just aligned but also collaboratively driving the company's growth and customer satisfaction.

    Heather also discusses the evolution of her role at PagerDuty, the importance of internal collaboration, and how integrating product feedback loops can significantly impact customer retention and success.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    8 May 2024, 11:00 am
  • 39 minutes 58 seconds
    E243 | Mitigating the Impact of Customer Champion Turnover with Customer.io's VP of Customer Experience, Natalie Onions

    Today on the show, we have Natalie Onions, the Vice President of Customer Experience at Customer.io. 

    In this episode, Natalie shares her in-depth insights into the crucial role of customer champions in driving customer success and what happens when these key individuals leave the company.

    We delve into the strategies that Customer.io employs to mitigate the risks associated with customer champion turnover and we wrapped up by discussing the importance of maintaining continuity and engagement in customer relationships and how to ensure the high standards of customer experience are upheld even in the face of such challenges.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    1 May 2024, 8:00 am
  • 36 minutes
    E242 | Navigating the Challenges of Product Management in Horizontal Products with Softr's Austin Yang

    Today on the show we have Austin Yang, the Lead Product Manager of Softr.

    In this episode, Austin shares his experiences in the no-code space, particularly the unique challenges and opportunities it presents for product management.

    We then discussed the impact of horizontal products that serve multiple industries, and we wrapped up by discussing how Softr is navigating product development and user needs in this diverse landscape.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    24 April 2024, 3:00 am
  • 50 minutes 48 seconds
    E241 | Crafting Your Homepage to Increase Conversions and Boost Customer Retention with Rob and Anthony of Fletch PMM

    Today on the show we have Rob Kaminski and Anthony Pierri, the partners of Fletch PMM.

    In this episode, Rob and Anthony share their journey in establishing Fletch PMM, a specialized firm helping early-stage B2B SaaS startups refine their website homepages. They delve into the pivotal role of a company’s homepage in positioning and messaging, crucial for attracting and retaining customers.

    We then discussed the common pitfalls startups face when crafting their homepages and wrapped up by exploring strategic approaches to making these homepages more effective in communicating value succinctly.

    As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly at [email protected]. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter!

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    17 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 41 minutes 4 seconds
    E240 | Embracing a Generalist Mindset and Flexibility in Career Growth: Céline Daley’s Journey to VP of Customer at DeepL

    Today on the show we have Céline Daley, the VP of Customer at DeepL.

    In this episode, Céline shares her unique insights into embracing a generalist mindset and the role of flexibility in navigating tech careers. With a background that spans from marketing to customer success, and from startups to global companies, Céline's journey showcases the power of adaptability and learning in driving career growth.

    We then discussed the importance of understanding business needs and how seeking adventure can lead to unexpected and rewarding career paths. We wrapped up by exploring Céline's strategies for building and scaling customer success teams, and how her generalist approach has been a key factor in her success.

    As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly at [email protected]. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    10 April 2024, 5:00 am
  • 39 minutes
    E239 | Closing the Feedback Loop: Cycle's Journey to Boost Customer Retention

    Today on the show we have Mehdi Boudoukhane, the CEO & co-founder of Cycle.

    In this episode, Mehdi shares his transformative journey from a data scientist in Johannesburg to launching Cycle, a company that seamlessly connects customer feedback with product development to close the feedback loop and enhance retention.

    We then delved into how Cycle leverages feedback not just for product prioritization but as a tool to spread empathy across organizations and build trust with users, ultimately fostering a more engaged and loyal customer base.

    As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly at [email protected]. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    3 April 2024, 5:00 am
  • 37 minutes 38 seconds
    E238 | Preventing Churn Through Strategic Objection Handling with Vendr's Lizzy Rosen

    Today on the show we have Lizzy Rosen, the VP of Customer Success at Vendr.

    In this episode, Lizzy shares her extensive experience in shaping the future of SaaS buying and how Vendr is revolutionizing the sales process to make it more efficient and transparent. We delve into the heart of objection handling, discussing how strategic approaches can significantly reduce customer churn and enhance retention rates in the competitive SaaS market.


    We then explored the challenges and strategies involved in negotiation and pricing, and we wrapped up by discussing the crucial role of data in driving decisions and ensuring fair outcomes for both buyers and sellers.

    As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly at [email protected]. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter for the latest updates.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    27 March 2024, 5:00 am
  • 47 minutes 15 seconds
    E237 | Pivoting Strategies Amidst Rapid Expansion scaling Retention.com to $20M+ ARR with Adam Robinson

    Today on the show we have Adam Robinson, the CEO and Co-Founder of Retention.com.

    In this episode, Adam shares his incredible journey of scaling Retention.com from zero to $20 million in ARR in just three and a half years, all without external funding.

    We delve into the pivotal moments and strategies that propelled the company's rapid expansion, and Adam opens up about the challenges of navigating growth at such a fast pace. Adam's commitment to extreme transparency and building in public has set a new standard in the industry and offers valuable insights for entrepreneurs and business leaders alike.

    We wrap up the discussion by touching on the importance of identifying and targeting the ideal customer profile, the role of strategic partnerships, and how Retention.com has navigated the complexities of expansion while maintaining a lean operation.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    20 March 2024, 8:00 am
  • 42 minutes 8 seconds
    E236 | From HelloFresh to Hotjar: Dissecting B2B vs. B2C Retention Strategies with Hotjar's CEO, Mohannad Ali

    Today on the show we have Mohannad Ali, CEO of Hotjar.

    In this episode, Mohannad shares his journey from VP of Engineering at HelloFresh to leading Hotjar. 

    We dive into the nuances of B2B vs. B2C churn and retention strategies, drawing on his unique experience across both sectors. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding early vs. late churn and tailoring go-to-market strategies accordingly. 

    Mohannad also offers a fresh perspective on the evolving role of technology in product-led growth and customer retention, especially in the context of AI and machine learning.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    13 March 2024, 10:00 am
  • 47 minutes 59 seconds
    E235 | The Lifecycle of Loyalty: Tackling Churn at Critical Stages in the User Journey with Active Campaign's Casey Hill

    Today on the show we have Casey Hill, the Senior Growth Manager of ActiveCampaign.

    In this episode, Casey shares his insights on navigating churn by focusing on the critical stages in the user journey to foster loyalty. 

    We explore the nuances of addressing churn from initial engagement through to long-term retention, highlighting strategies for each phase: activation, impact/results, and loyalty. 

    The discussion offers actionable advice on how to enhance customer retention rates and improve the overall customer experience.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    6 March 2024, 4:00 am
  • 43 minutes 33 seconds
    E234 | 6 Key User Onboarding Strategies Learned from HubSpot and Wistia with Andrew Capland

    Today on the show we have Andrew Capland, a growth advisor and onboarding specialist with rich experiences at HubSpot and Wistia.

    In this episode, Andrew shares his journey from HubSpot to Wistia, outlining the evolution of his approach to user onboarding and growth. Andrew walked through 6 key steps of a successful onboarding framework to increase activation and reduce churn. 

    We then discussed the importance of personalized user experiences and how businesses can implement these strategies to achieve remarkable customer retention. Andrew wraps up the conversation by emphasizing the critical role of continuous learning and adaptation in the ever-evolving SaaS landscape.

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    Churn FM is brought to you by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform and Chargebee, SaaS for effective revenue growth management.

    28 February 2024, 6:00 am
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