Origins - A podcast about Limited Partners, created by Notation Capital

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Origins is a podcast about Limited Partners, the firms and institutions that invest in venture capital funds. Through a series of interviews, we explore what has historically been an opaque corner of the startup ecosystem and learn how the people behind the capital make decisions. This podcast was created by Alex Lines and Nick Chirls, partners at Notation.

  • 42 minutes 17 seconds
    Finding Founders Who Will Change the World with Wesley Chan

    Wesley Chan is a true legend in Silicon Valley. He spent time at Microsoft and HP, and in 2002 he jumped to Google. There, he worked as Sergey Brin’s Chief of Staff and founded Google Analytics and Google Voice - all before then founding and leading the seed investing program at Google Ventures as GP. Under his tenure, GV was the first institutional check into companies like Plaid, Gusto, Lucid, and Robinhood. Wesley sits down with Nick Chirls, GP at Asylum Ventures,  and Beezer Clarkson, LP at Sapphire Partners, to discuss his investment philosophy and what motivates him. Wesley discusses his early days at Google being pushed to make products that change the world, finding founders who have a 100-year plan, and being driven not by the desire to prove other people wrong, but to prove himself right.


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners

    Learn more about OpenLP: openlp.vc

    Learn more about Asylum Ventures: asylum.vc

    Learn more about FPV Ventures: fpvventures.com


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    CHAPTERS:

    0:00-Introduction & the Burning Question3:11-Working for Sergey Brin: “If you’re not changing the world, you’re wasting your time.”

    9:22-They're not there to screw the world, they're there to improve the world.

    15:07-I'm not a university or your tuition money. We're giving you a check to go win.

    17:05-Knowing just enough to be dangerous

    27:58-The Exit Market: No one wants to test the market. LPs, hang on.

    33:07-FPV’s take on AI

    34:09-Founder success is the gift that keeps on giving

    13 November 2024, 10:00 am
  • 18 minutes 52 seconds
    Minisode: Seed vs Growth Investing - What Changes and What Stays the Same

    Nick Chirls, GP at Asylum Ventures,  and Beezer Clarkson, LP at Sapphire Partners, unpack their recent conversation with Jai Das, President + Partner at Sapphire Ventures and Mike Maples, Co-Founder + Partner at Floodgate,  to answer their burning question: What changes in the way seed and growth investors think, and what stays the same? They discuss the crushing importance of team no matter the stage; the parallels in LP land (at the end of the day, you’re just backing people); the difference between small iterations on a business model vs a radical remaking of a company; and the imperfect information you get at Seed vs the luxury of canvasing an entire landscape at growth via customer calls and key metrics.  


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about OpenLP: https://openlp.sapphireventures.com/

    Learn more about Asylum Ventures: asylum.vc

    Learn more about Floodgate: https://www.floodgate.com/


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    CHAPTERS:

    0:00-Intro & Takeaways

    1:20-Is This the Team That’s Going to IPO?

    4:02-Early Stage Pivots

    7:44-How Hard a Pivot is Too Hard?

    12:23-LP Strategy for Picking Managers

    13:09-The Importance of Timing

    15:59-You Need to Call the Customers

    18:05-Outro

    15 October 2024, 9:00 am
  • 48 minutes 56 seconds
    Finding Pattern Breakers & Winners from Seed to Growth with Mike Maples and Jai Das

    With a few dozen software exits under his belt (including Box, Square, Mulesoft & JFrog), nobody knows enterprise investing like Sapphire Ventures’ President + PartnerJai Das. Likewise, Floodgate co-founder + Partner Mike Maples Jr. is often credited with pioneering seed investing as we know it, with names like Twitter, Twitch and Lyft in his portfolio. Together, they join Nick Chirls, GP at Asylum Ventures,  and Beezer Clarkson, LP at Sapphire Partners, to share how they pick winners at their respective stages. What does it take to spot someone who sees the future before it’s here? How do inflection points like AI impact an investor’s thesis? And are there more opportunities in the market for VCs today? Plus, Jai and Mike discuss the one throughline from seed to growth to lead to a successful exit: the management team.


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners

    Learn more about OpenLP: openlp.vc

    Learn more about Asylum Ventures: asylum.vc

    Learn more about Sapphire Ventures: sapphireventures.com

    Learn more about Floodgate: floodgate.com


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    CHAPTERS:

    0:00-Introduction & the Burning Question4:08-Intro to Sapphire Ventures

    6:02-Intro to Floodgate7:56-Setting the Stage at Seed

    10:30-Inflection Points: We're Going Through a Sea Change of Mass Cognition

    13:43-What’s Happening at the Growth Stage

    15:17-More Choice in the Market

    16:10-Importance of Management Team

    17:44-Mike’s New Book “Pattern Breakers”

    23:09-The Three Things Floodgate Looks for in a Founder

    25:25-Founder Future Fit & Pivots

    27:56-In Enterprise Software, You Don’t Always Have to Build a New Category29:52-AI: Over-Valued? Under-Valued?

    32:50-Is There Anything Left in AI Non-Consensus?

    34:37-How Sapphire Approaches GenAI Investing

    37:31-The Exit Market Today

    44:10-How to Approach Founder Liquidity


    1 October 2024, 9:00 am
  • 1 minute 59 seconds
    Coming Soon to Origins…

    A look at what’s to come on a brand new season of Origins, where we’ll dive into the VC ecosystem with the people who know it best, to learn how the people behind the capital really make decisions.


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about Asylum Ventures: asylum.vc

    24 September 2024, 7:00 am
  • 25 minutes 58 seconds
    Minisode: Jack Altman’s VC Career Arc and the Launch of Asylum Ventures

    Nick Chirls, GP at Asylum Ventures,  and Beezer Clarkson, LP at Sapphire Partners, go inside their recent conversation with Alt Capital’s Jack Altman to answer their burning question: What  does the journey look like from VC-backed founder to angel investor to institutional VC? How does one successfully jump from investing their own capital to taking on LP dollars? Where is Jack comfortable taking bigger bets? Plus, the two of them go in-depth for the very first time on Nick’s new firm, Asylum Ventures.


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about OpenLP: https://openlp.sapphireventures.com/

    Learn more about Asylum Ventures: asylum.vc

    Learn more about Alt Capital: https://www.altcap.com/


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    17 September 2024, 9:00 am
  • 47 minutes 7 seconds
    From VC-backed Founder to Angel to Institutional Investor with Jack Altman

    Jack Altman of Alt Capital has led quite a life in Silicon Valley. He’s gone from angel investing to founding a venture-backed company (HR platform Lattice), back to angel investing today, taking on outside capital as an institutional investor at Alt Capital. Jack sits down with Nick Chirls, GP at Asylum Ventures  & Beezer Clarkson, LP at Sapphire Partners, to discuss learnings from his impressive career arc, including how to build a reputation by avoiding zero sum games, making decisions quickly as a founder, the differences in investing your own money and someone else’s, how to build a track record as an angel, and being a generalist both inside and out of the office. Plus, having just welcomed his third child into the family, Jack discusses the importance of ruthless prioritization - how to say no to the low value-add dinners and meetings if it means you get to be home for bedtime.


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about OpenLP: https://openlp.sapphireventures.com/

    Learn more about Asylum Ventures: asylum.vc

    Learn more about Alt Capital: https://www.altcap.com/


    Subscribe to the OpenLP newsletter for a monthly roundup of the latest venture insights, including the newest Origins episodes, delivered straight to your inbox.


    CHAPTERS:

    00:00-Introduction

    02:59-Nick’s new fund, Asylum Ventures, is Live!

    07:22-The Burning Question

    11:02-Jack Altman Introduction

    12:55-Ruthless prioritization: Balancing Work & Family

    16:40-The Best Idea You Say No To

    19:21-Working with a Wide Scope of Founders

    22:07-Building a Reputation in Venture

    25:03-Venture is Noisy: Speak Softly but Carry a Big Stick

    27:52-The Other Altman

    30:42-From Founder to Angel to Institutional Investor

    38:11-Fundraising Strategy

    42:10-Investing Your Own Money vs LP Capital

    45:52-Outro

    10 September 2024, 9:00 am
  • 8 minutes 20 seconds
    Minisode: What’s the Real Value Add of VCs?

    Nick & Beezer go inside their recent conversation with Jason Shuman and Will Quist to discuss the right way to be a contrarian investor, how to do no harm as a VC, and dive into the answer to their burning question: do VCs actually add value?


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about Notation Capital: https://notation.vc/

    Learn more about Primary: https://www.primary.vc/

    Learn more about Slow Ventures: https://slow.co/

    20 August 2024, 9:00 am
  • 39 minutes 37 seconds
    Being Non-Consensus and Right in VC with Jason Shuman & Will Quist

    What do Primary GP Jason Shuman and Slow Ventures Partner Will Quist have in common? At first glance, not much, given how differently their firms approach firm building and VC "platforms." At Primary, their Impact team outnumbers investors 2:1, while Slow consists of 3 GPs, and 3 GPs only. But in a surprising twist, they agree on more than one would expect. 


    They both see non-consensus investing as carrying big risk but also big opportunity. They are both seed investors and their respective firms go to market in very different ways. They sit down with co-hosts Nick Chirls, GP at Notation Capital & Beezer Clarkson, LP at Sapphire Partners, to talk about zigging when the market zags, identifying truly disruptive companies on day zero, and how much impact VCs actually have on the companies they partner with.


    Learn more about co-host Beezer and her firm at Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about Notation Capital: https://notation.vc/

    Learn more about Primary: https://www.primary.vc/

    Learn more about Slow Ventures: https://slow.co/

    Learn more about OpenLP: https://openlp.sapphireventures.com/ 


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    Chapters:

    00:00-Introduction & The Burning Question

    06:06-Will & Jason Intros

    09:13-Defining the S Curve

    11:06-Positioning Your Firm to Win

    15:08-Identifying Winners on Day Zero

    18:31-Being Non-Consensus and Right

    25:46-What is the Value Add of VCs?

    32:43-Setting KPIs

    35:36-”You Sell Something”

    38:30-Outro

    6 August 2024, 9:00 am
  • 38 minutes 8 seconds
    Endowment Investing with University of Chicago’s Joanna Rupp

    Joanna Rupp, Managing Director of Private Equity at the University of Chicago, sits down with Nick & Beezer to shine a light on the often opaque world of endowments, including what separates an endowment from a foundation, how they consider small funds v. big funds and the fallout from an avalanche of capital being thrown at VCs. Then (announcement!) Joanna and Beezer evaluate Nick’s new venture fund - the key pieces of diligence, what he needs to prove in the next few years for another investment, how to build a relationship with his LPs, and more.


    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about Notation Capital: https://notation.vc/

    Visit the University of Chicago’s Endowment’s website: https://investments.uchicago.edu/

    Read Ted Seides’s blog post: https://www.capitalallocators.com/the-investment-office-playbook-what-managers-dont-see/dinvestors.com/blog/the-three-body-problem-finding-the-new-stable-points-in-venture-capital

    Visit OpenLP as your go-to resource for LP thought leadership: https://openlp.sapphireventures.com/https://www.linkedin.com/company/openlp/

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    27 June 2024, 9:00 am
  • 43 minutes 59 seconds
    The Three Body Problem of Venture Capital w/ Frank Rotman (CIO, QED Investors)

    Nick and Beezer sit down with Frank Rotman, a founding partner and CIO at QED Investors to talk about his early days as the chief credit officer of Capital One, the fundamental flaw in the way founders and investors have been funding startups, the purpose associates serve and how those associates can better their skills, and how VCs can avoid being left in the exhaust of larger firms.

    Learn more about Sapphire Partners: https://sapphireventures.com/sapphire-partners/

    Learn more about Notation Capital: https://notation.vc/

    Visit QED Investors’ website: https://www.qedinvestors.com/

    Read Frank Rotman’s post on the Three Body Problem: https://www.qedinvestors.com/blog/the-three-body-problem-finding-the-new-stable-points-in-venture-capital

    30 May 2024, 9:00 am
  • 52 minutes 56 seconds
    Building a venture firm w/ Scott Kupor (a16z)

    In the first Origins episode of the year, ⁠Nick Chirls⁠ (Notation Capital) and ⁠Beezer Clarkson⁠ (Sapphire Partners) host Scott Kupor, a Managing Partner at Andreessen Horowitz.

    In his role as managing partner, Scott invests in growth-stage companies building in the bio and healthcare industries, manages the firm’s investor relations team, and is responsible for the firm’s growth initiatives. 

    Scott was the first employee at Andreessen Horowitz and managed the firm’s growth from $300 million in AUM to more than $30 billion. Prior to joining the firm, Scott worked as vice president and general manager of software-as-a-service at Hewlett Packard. Before that, he held numerous executive management positions at Opsware, including senior vice president of global field operations, vice president of financial planning and vice president of corporate development.

    Scott is also the author of the Wall Street Journal bestselling book, Secrets of Sand Hill Road: Venture Capital and How to Get It, and serves on the boards of Cedar, Headway, Foursquare, Labster, Ultima, and SnapLogic. He also served as chairman of the board for the National Venture Capital Association.

    In this episode we discuss:

     - The evolution of Andreessen Horowitz as the firm approaches its 15th anniversary

    - Reflections on how Scott’s role has changed since becoming the first hire at a16z

    - The state of venture today with AI as an inflection point + valuation corrections

    - Managing LP/GP expectations in the current environment (e.g. markdowns)

    - a16z’s decentralized business model and keeping important cultural values

    - How to think about (and debate) fund size and what is the TAM today

    …and much more

    Follow us:

    ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/nchirls⁠⁠

    ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/beezer232⁠⁠

    https://twitter.com/skupor

    19 March 2024, 1:20 pm
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