Meatless: A Podcast About Eating

How We Get To Next

It’s hard to have open conversations about the reality of eating animal products — whether omnivorous, vegetarian, vegan, or something else entirely. On “Meatless,” Alicia Kennedy talks with chefs, writers, and more about how their personal and political beliefs determine whether or not they eat meat. How do identity, culture, economics, and history affect a diet? Join Alicia and her guests as they discuss why people eat, how they eat, and where ethics, politics, cultural identity, and animals fit into all that.

  • 25 April 2019, 2:36 pm
    Episode 30: Chicago Part Two

    In the second part of Alicia’s visit to Chicago, she speaks with pastry chef Valeria Taylor, and food writers Tim Mazurek and Natalie Slater. They discuss their frustrations with the way Chicago’s food scene is repeatedly defined by critics based in LA and NYC, their favorite animal-free recipes, and what they think makes for a good vegan city. Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    20 minutes 27 seconds
  • 24 April 2019, 2:01 pm
    Episode 29: Chicago Part One

    In the first of of Alicia's two dispatches from Chicago, she talks to bartender Alicia Arredondo and chef Pat Sheerin about the city's reputation as a bad place to go meat-free. They discuss some of their plant-focused dishes, how the cultural and social context of Chicago influenced them professionally, and the broader ways in which food and politics intersect. Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    19 minutes 29 seconds
  • 10 April 2019, 5:03 pm
    Episode 28: John Currence

    Alicia talks with John Currence, a chef based in Oxford, Mississippi who co-hosted a series called the “Big Gay Mississippi Welcome Table Dinners” to protest at the state’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which sanctioned religiously-motivated discrimination, particularly against queer and trans people. They discuss the political uses of food—both as a tool of protest and in bringing people together — and what makes for a “stunning” vegan breakfast.

    Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    39 minutes 13 seconds
  • 3 April 2019, 4:00 pm
    Episode 27: Luz Cruz and Ollie Montes de Oca

    Alicia talks to Luz Cruz and Ollie Montes de Oca, members of the Cuir Kitchen Brigade that formed in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria. Organizing as a collective solidarity group, they flew to Puerto Rico to distribute pickled seasonal produce and run workshops on jarring and preserving foods. They discuss developing connections between activist groups in New York City and San Juan, their work with Tijuana’s chapter of Food Not Bombs, and the broader importance of food to social justice movements

    Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    39 minutes 57 seconds
  • 27 March 2019, 11:27 am
    Episode 26: Danielle Ricciardi and Daniel Strong

    Alicia talks with and Danielle Ricciardi and Daniel Strong, a couple who founded the vegan comfort food business Chickpea and Olive. They discuss the process of getting products into Whole Foods, how delivery apps can financially undercut restaurants, and the concept of “making a burger out of all the things that cows eat.” Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    39 minutes 5 seconds
  • 20 March 2019, 5:07 pm
    Episode 25: Olivia Hu

    Alicia talks to Olivia Hu, the co-founder and owner of Old Timers, a bar in Bushwick, Brooklyn. The first-generation child of Chinese parents who fled during the Cultural Revolution, Hu talks about the experience of trying reconcile her family's heritage and cuisine with her pescetarianism. She also discusses what she loves (experimenting with cocktails) and hates (racism and sexism) about being a bartender.

    Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    39 minutes 10 seconds
  • 13 March 2019, 4:00 pm
    Episode 24: Amy Quichiz

    Alicia talks to vegan activist Amy Quichiz, the founder of Veggie Mijas, a U.S.-wide organization that gives women of color a place to meet and discuss their experiences with food. Topics covered include how to convince your family to stop consuming animal products, how veganism should be inherently intersectional, and how "cruelty-free" must refer to workers as well as animals. Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    22 minutes 47 seconds
  • 6 March 2019, 5:00 pm
    Episode 23: Toby Buggiani

    Alicia talks with Toby Buggiani, the owner of Adelina's in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, which serves plant-based Italian cuisine. They discuss his wilder younger years, how his menu was inspired by Roman and Neapolitan cooking, and the latest developments in the search for the perfect cashew mozzarella. Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    30 minutes 45 seconds
  • 27 February 2019, 2:57 pm
    Episode 22: Roopa Kalyanaraman Marcello

    Alicia talks with Roopa Kalyanaraman Marcello, a public health expert who runs Monsoon Sweets, a South Asian-inspired dessert company. They discuss the systemic power of large food corporations, the ironies of selling desserts while campaigning for healthier diets, and the psychological tricks involved in passing on a vegetarianism to kids. Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    35 minutes 43 seconds
  • 20 February 2019, 12:39 pm
    Episode 21: Becca Hegarty

    Alicia talks to chef Becca Hegarty, one of Zagat’s inaugural 30 Under 30 list of “culinary superstars” and co-founder of the Bitter Ends Garden & Luncheonette, an organic farm, bakery, and restaurant in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They discuss the branding of the farm-to-table concept versus its realities, the economics of buying or renting land to grow food, and the emotional cost of caring for livestock destined to become meat. Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    30 minutes 36 seconds
  • 13 February 2019, 5:00 pm
    Episode 20: Casandra Rosario

    Alicia talks to Casandra Rosario of Food Before Love, which focuses on education and dining experiences that make "a space for marginalized consumers to create and tell their own stories through food." These events cover everything from how food cultures have been shaped by the African diaspora to classism in the vegan community. Together, they discuss Rosario's panel discussion series Roots & Vines, why wine education is significant to her community, and supporting women-owned small business.

    Written and presented by Alicia Kennedy Produced by Sareen Patel

    33 minutes 43 seconds
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