"Ask questions. I always encourage people to ask me questions. If your question comes with good intentions, I’m not going to be mad at you for it! I’m not going to fault you for that. You just simply don’t know."
Sofia Camacho is officially one to watch on the NYC running scene. The transgender nonbinary elite runner holds a 2:29:14 marathon personal best, won the nonbinary division at the 2024 New York City Marathon, and, this past weekend, broke the tape at the Bandit Grand Prix. By day, Sofia is a tattoo artist and coach at Mile High Run Club. And by night: Meet Xana Whoria.
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"Despite my insistence that 'I can do this,' and, 'I'm fine,' and, 'I've got this,' I don't got this without my people."
I'm fresh off my second round of chemotherapy, and am back on the couch recording with friends. This time for chemo, I was joined by my dear friend Conor Nickel, and this is our recap from the day at the infusion center, and the few days we had together. We answered tons of listener questions, and Conor talks about being one of my go-to people throughout all of this.
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"In life and in marathons, whoever can overcome those challenges the best — it’s not about not having challenges, because you are going to have them — it’s about responding to them, being resilient, learning from them, inspiring other people, and sharing that with others."
Jordan Hasay competed at her first Olympic Trials when she was in high school. After graduating, she attended the University of Oregon, where she became an 18-time All American. She immediately signed with Nike to kick off her professional track career. When Jordan transitioned to marathoning, she had immediate success, debuting at the 2017 Boston Marathon where she finished third and broke the record for the fastest marathon debut by an American woman (2:23). That fall, Jordan raced the Chicago Marathon, where she again finished third, running 2:20:57.
Now, life looks a little for Jordan — now Jordan Hogan — and her husband, Ryan. They are the founders of Hogan Performance, and Jordan is finding new joy in this chapter of life as a coach. She's also 35 weeks pregnant with their first child! In this conversation, Jordan talks about pregnancy expectations vs. reality, and about whether or not she hopes to someday return to competing.
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"None of this would have been possible if I didn’t take that chance on myself."
Caroline Moss has a dream: to run the 2026 TCS New York City Marathon. As a New Yorker, it's her favorite day of the year. The catch: Caroline has never been a runner — until now. In this new series, we're following author, creator, theater producer (check out Dilaria, open now!), Saved by the Bell super-fan, and professional shopper Caroline Moss as she embarks on a quest to start running and run the race of her dreams.
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"It was dark, and I remember looking over the ledge thinking, 'What’s down there?' I probably don’t want to know…"
Deirdre Keane has never encountered an adventure she didn't want to pursue. The pediatric ICU nurse turned McKinsey consultant is always on the run, whether it's at a world marathon major or it's completing — and winning! — the World Marathon Challenge, running seven marathons in seven days on seven continents. Deirdre's latest endorphin chase: the Everest Extreme Ultra Marathon! In this conversation, she talks about the three-week excursion traversing glaciers and mountain passes and, ultimately, an unplanned trek back to base camp. Warning: This episode may inspire you to go do something big, scary, and life-changing.
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"In my mind, I’m not going anywhere anytime soon."
It's been a whirlwind week. THANK YOU for all of the love, support, and kindness after last week's "we're due for a catch-up" episode. It's been an overwhelming time for me — but what about for my support squad? I get so many questions from people asking how best to show up for someone going through a hard time, and my team and I have learned a lot about what this can all look like. So for this one, Cousin Jackie returns, and we're talking about what the past few weeks have been like for each of us: the patient and the support person.
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"I’m laser focused. This is serious."
She's the 2018 Boston Marathon champion. She's the co-host of Nobody Asked Us with Des and Kara. She's one of the most admired, most accomplished, and most respected distance runners of our time, and now, Des is taking it to the trails. After running her final professional marathon in Boston in April, Des's next big adventure will be pacing friend Joe McConaughy at the Western States Endurance Run in just a few weeks. In this conversation, Des talks about what her pacing duties will entail, what training camp was like, and what's exciting her right now.
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“This sucks, and it’s going to be hard, and this is very real. But that doesn’t mean we’re going to stop having fun along the way. So let’s have fun when it feels right.”
We're due for a catch-up.
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"They just want a chance to compete."
Yesterday, after much anticipation and speculation, USA Track & Field announced the changes to the qualifying times for the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. So, what's it going to take to OTQ leading up to LA 2028, and to get to run at the Trials? For women, the qualifying mark stays the same: 2:37:00. On the men's side, things are getting faster: Men will now need to run 2:16:00 to qualify — a full two minutes faster than the qualifying time for the 2024 Trials. In this episode, USATF's Chairs of the Long Distance Running Committee — Kim Conley and Conor Nickel — join the show to explain what what into making these decisions, and what they mean for athletes and fans alike. (Read the full USATF release here.)
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"You just need to chill a little bit!"
Phily Bowden has a massive following. Whether it's on YouTube, TikTok, or Instagram, there are hundreds of thousands of people watching — and applauding — Phily's every training run, start line, and finish line. The 2:25 UK-based marathoner runs professionally for On, and as she always says, she loves the grind. In this conversation, Phily talks about her experience at the 2025 London Marathon, where she may not have hit her time goal (she hoped for 2:23–2:24, and ran 2:30) but left London with an admirable perspective and some serious mental fortitude.
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"There’s this sense of all these people, they came out to watch you do this weird, crazy thing. And you’re running toward the thing you’ve been working toward for many months, and all of these people are behind you, and people beside you trying to do the same thing. It’s very special."
First, Emily Oster started running. Then she started running fast. Then she ran a marathon: the California International Marathon in 2023, where she finished in a Boston Qualifying time of 3:17:39. Now, Emily is officially a Boston Marathoner, having completed this year's race in a personal best time of 3:14:53. In this episode, the economist and best-selling author breaks it all down, including what her training was like this time around, what the energy in the city felt like for a first-time Boston Marathoner, and why she briefly considered calling it quits at mile 23.
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