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Pastor Jimmy Scroggins - Family Church

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  • 25 minutes 21 seconds
    CFTROU 0203: Students: Finding the Right Volunteers | Recruiting & Training Adult Volunteers

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    CFTROU 0203: Students: Finding the Right Volunteers | Recruiting & Training Adult Volunteers


    Today, we’re continuing our discussion on student ministry at Family Church by diving into practical matters—like how to recruit the right volunteers. Joining us on the podcast are Pastor John MacTaggart and Pastor Brian Stebbins to unpack our approach to recruiting and training adult volunteers, focusing on finding and retaining significant adults. As you tune in, you’ll hear why we prioritize recruiting and training the right volunteers, what we look for in people to serve in student ministry, and the critical role significant adults play. We’ll also share practical insights into our onboarding booklet, our seven-step process, and intentional training methods for our adult volunteers.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Why recruiting and training student volunteers is so important. 
    • The value and priority of retaining significant adults: setting high expectations.
    • We talk about our onboarding booklet and the seven-step process. 
    • Basic steps churches of any size can take to recruit and onboard student ministry volunteers.
    • The importance of giving parents access to small group leaders and allowing them to get to know the person investing in their child’s life. 
    • How we do intentional training with our adult volunteers. 

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    10 December 2024, 2:00 pm
  • 25 minutes 9 seconds
    CFTROU 0202: Students: Sundays First | Strategy of Sunday Morning

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    CFTROU 0202: Students: Sundays First | Strategy of Sunday Morning

    If your goal is long-term family formation and raising disciples, consider cultivating a student ministry that fully integrates students into the larger life of the church, and that starts with Sunday mornings. In this episode, we continue our series on how we at Family Church approach Student Ministry, focusing on our philosophy of putting Sundays first. Join Pastor Jimmy Scroggins and his co-host Leslee Bennett as they chat with Pastor John MacTaggart; who leads our Student Ministry across our network of churches, and Pastor Tyler Core; the campus pastor at Family Church Gardens and our former student pastor. In this episode, we dive into our ‘Sunday’s First’ philosophy in Student Ministry, discuss how Pastor John applies this approach, the importance of integrating students into the broader church life, and the role of parents in this journey. We also touch on how this philosophy plays out across our campuses and unpack the purpose of our mid-week activities in supporting our students’ spiritual growth.


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • What we mean by our ‘Sunday’s First’ philosophy in our Student Ministry.
    • How the Student Ministry team plans their week with a focus on Sunday mornings.
    • How we work out our Sunday morning philosophy throughout all our campuses.
    • Why it’s crucial to integrate our students into the life of the larger church.
    • Our goal with mid-week activities.
    • Leslee shares her perspective as a mom who has raised teenagers and the value of Sunday mornings. 
    • One word of advice to pastors and leaders to change their course and focus to Sunday mornings. 

    If you want to build families, the center of the target has to be Sunday mornings.
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    26 November 2024, 9:00 am
  • 20 minutes 31 seconds
    CFTROU 0201: Students- Spiritual Habits

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    CFTROU 0201: Students- Spiritual Habits

    Today, we continue our conversation on Student Ministry, focusing on the fourth leg of our Student Ministry philosophy at Family Church: Spiritual Habits. Although it’s the last talked-about leg, it’s certainly not the least important. Joining us are Pastor John MacTaggart, Pastor to Students and Families, and Tommy Lea, our Middle School Minister, both from Family Church Downtown. Tune in to hear about the essential spiritual habits we emphasize, why this aspect is so crucial to our Student Ministry, and the practical ways we help students build these habits.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Tommy shares the spiritual habits we emphasize in our Student Ministry.
    • John’s thoughts on forming spiritual habits in students.
    • Practical ways we help students form spiritual habits. 
    • We share anecdotal stories about students who have gone through programs and the fruit we’ve seen.
    • Advice on where to start to weave spiritual habits into your student ministries. 

    Spiritual habits are going to create the opportunity for people to become life-long self-feeding disciples of Jesus Christ.
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    Leslee on X 

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    12 November 2024, 1:45 pm
  • 26 minutes 49 seconds
    CFTROU 0200: Students- Challenging Spiritual Experiences

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    CFTROU 0200: Students- Challenging Spiritual Experiences

    This season is all about our student ministry philosophy, and today, we unpack the third leg of our four-legged stool that serves as the sturdy base of truth we’d like to pass onto our student leaders: challenging spiritual experiences. Jimmy and Leslee are joined by Pastors John MacTaggart and Jake Kimbrell to explore how we at Family Church instigate challenging spiritual experiences for our students. We begin with why it’s important to provoke our students spiritually, the three main events that serve as great foundations for this purpose, and how we ensure that our entire congregation is engaged and actively involved. We end with how adversity breeds success, confirming why we need to constantly challenge our students on a spiritual level, and our guests share some helpful resources for cultivating the right mindset in student ministries. Join us to discover how to create challenging spiritual experiences that foster growth in your students and empower your ministry to inspire the next generation!

    Key Points:

    • How we create challenging spiritual scenarios for our students at Family Church. 
    • Unpacking our biggest three annual events: ADVANCE, Camp, and Block Party.
    • Understanding what motivates students to grow in their faith and share The Gospel. 
    • How adversity breeds success and why we should be challenging our students at church.
    • Success stories from when we challenged our students spiritually. 
    • Helpful resources for provoking challenging spiritual experiences.

    Challenging spiritual experiences are the most unique thing that a student ministry has to offer.
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    What we’re doing is we’re saying to the students, ‘We believe you’re not just the church of tomorrow; we believe you’re the church of today.’
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    Leslee on X

    John MacTaggart on X

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    29 October 2024, 9:00 am
  • 25 minutes 53 seconds
    CFTROU 0199: Students- Significant Adult Relationships

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    CFTROU 0199: Students- Significant Adult Relationships

    Our students are the leaders of today, not just tomorrow, and that’s why our student ministry is so important to us at Family Church. Today is the second leg of our four-legged stool that defines how we approach our student ministry, and it’s all about the importance of having significant spiritual leaders actively investing in their student congregations. We are joined by Campus Director Jaqueline Smail and Student Pastor John MacTaggart, and Jaqueline begins by sharing her journey into student ministry to become one of the most gifted student leaders that Pastor Jimmy has ever seen! Then, we discuss why spiritual leaders matter for students, why parents appreciate the presence of significant adults in the kids’ lives, the responsibilities of adults who have students underwing looking up to them, and the characteristics of a great student leader. We end with some advice on how to support student ministries from the sidelines, what churches should be doing more of to enhance their student ministries, and some real-world examples of when spiritual leaders significantly impacted the lives of the students.  

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Why students need to have significant relationships with significant adults. 
    • What Family Church is looking for when hiring a student leader – must-have characteristics.
    • How to support student ministry when you’re not directly involved. 
    • What churches need to be doing more of for their student ministries. 
    • Practical examples of when student leaders significantly impacted the lives of their students.

    CFTROU 0199: Students- Significant Adult Relationships
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    “We actually have a lot of people who are very gifted Bible teachers, and we have environments where we can create that. What we don’t have is authentic, life-on-life disciple-makers.”
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode

    Jimmy on X

    Leslee on X

    Family Church Network

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    Jacqueline Smail on Instagram

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    15 October 2024, 2:22 pm
  • 28 minutes 4 seconds
    CFTROU 0198: Students- Partnering with Parents

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    CFTROU 0198: Students- Partnering with Parents

    Welcome to a new season of Church for the Rest of Us! Today we are joined by student pastor, John MacTaggart and student minister Christian Rodriguez to discuss student ministry and how to partner with parents. We then delve into ‘the four-legged stool’ that they implement in student ministry at Family Church, where it came from, and how our guests use it in their ministry. Today we focus on the first ‘leg’ of the stool; partnering with parents as our guests tell us how they create a sense of community within their student ministry, how they connect with parents and disciple their children alongside them, and so much more! We even discuss some important values we, at Family Church, like to instill in our children before John and Christian share advice for anyone in ministry wanting to connect with their students.

    Key Points:

    • The biblical foundations of student ministry and why it’s so important. 
    • A breakdown of ‘the four-legged stool’ and how Family Church developed it. 
    • How they disciple the children in their church alongside their parents. 
    • The milestones they emphasize for both children and their parents. 
    • How John and Christian connect with the parents of the students the disciple. 
    • The kinds of questions parents as student ministers and their potential solutions. 

    We don’t just want kids showing up on Sundays and Wednesdays, this is a family affair!
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Jimmy on X

    Leslee on X

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

    Church for the Rest of Us on X

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    John MacTaggart on X

    John MacTaggart on Instagram

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    2 October 2024, 1:56 pm
  • 30 minutes 2 seconds
    CFTROU 0197: A Simple Way to Share the Gospel

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    CFTROU 0197: A Simple Way to Share the Gospel

    In our final episode of this season, we delve into a simple method for sharing the Gospel. Joining us on the podcast today are Pastor Todd Thomas, who serves at Family Church Sherbrooke, Chris Kish, minister to the young adult’s ministry, and Robby Christmas, campus pastor at Family Church in the Farms. Together, we unpack the Three Circles, a gospel-sharing tool developed by Pastor Jimmy and one that we frequently utilize. Tune in to learn about the genesis of the Three Circles, its evolution into a globally recognized gospel-sharing tool, and why we prioritize not only teaching but also training our community in its use!

    Key Points:

    • Pastor Jimmy recounts the story of developing the Three Circles tool.
    • How the tool has developed into a globally used gospel-sharing tool
    • Why we don’t just teach, but train people, in the Three Circles.
    • Robby walks us through what a training session on the Three Circles looks like.
    • Why you, as a church leader, should have this tool.

    Key Quotes: 

    “What I want to do is make sharing the gospel normal. For the Christian, it should be normal!” — Chris Kish

    “When you are training you are not just transferring content, you are transferring skills.” — Robby Christmas

    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Family Church Three Circles

    Turning Everyday Conversations Into Gospel Conversations

    Jimmy on X

    Leslee on X

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

    Church for the Rest of Us on X

    Todd Thomas on X

    Chris Kish on Instagram

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    5 September 2024, 3:00 pm
  • 22 minutes 40 seconds
    CFTROU 0196: Building a Leadership Pipeline

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    CFTROU 0196: Building a Leadership Pipeline

    A leadership pipeline isn’t a new trend that only applies to multisite or church-planting contexts. While it has its challenges and requires that we rethink ministry roles, building a church’s leadership pipeline cultivates the God-given spiritual gifts and abilities of each person to accomplish ministry goals and intentionally develop ministry partners. Today on Church For the Rest of Us, we delve into one of our most asked-about topics with special guests Pastors Jose DaSilva, Christian Ramos, and Derek Simpson. Join us as we discuss the importance of people development, what goes into building a leadership pipeline, and how your church can create a better process for developing and multiplying disciples at all levels.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • What it means to be a “people developer.”
    • Reasons that churches need more qualified, capable leaders to accomplish ministry goals.
    • Some of the cultural challenges that come with developing people.
    • Identify, recruit, train, and place: the process of leadership development.
    • How to identify potential leaders in your community.

    One of our key leadership principles is that we want all of us to be people developers – Jesus was a people developer, all the best leaders in all the new testaments were people developers, and God is a people developer
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    Christian on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/christianramos

    Derek on Xhttps://twitter.com/dereksimpson

    Jimmy on X

    Leslee on X

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

    Church for the Rest of Us on X

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    20 August 2024, 9:00 am
  • 27 minutes 30 seconds
    CFTROU 0195: Embracing Meaningful Membership

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    CFTROU 0195: Embracing Meaningful Membership

    There are numerous aspects to embracing meaningful membership at your neighborhood church. At Family Church, we consider membership a privilege, but it also involves a specific process. This process is designed to guide our members toward God’s design through fellowship, teaching, and accountability within their church family. Today, we’re joined by Pastor Derek Simpson, who serves as the campus pastor for our downtown campus and provides leadership for all our ministry teams across all campuses; Pastor Todd Gaston from the North Stuart campus and regional leader of the Treasure Coast; and Pastor Jose DaSilva, the pastor of Iglesia Familiar Greenacres. Join us as we dive into a discussion on the process and purpose of church membership. With this conversation, we want to encourage listeners, not to simply do what we do, but to build a process, stick with it over time, and begin seeing the fruit of it.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Pastor Derek further unpacks our First Connection tool.
    • How we encourage people to attend First Connection.
    • Why our number one metric is how many people are coming to First Connection.
    • Pastor Derek drills down on what people can expect when coming to First Connection.
    • Pastor Jimmy delves into what it takes to become a member at Family Church.
    • Pastor Jose’s thoughts on the difference between a member and an attendee.

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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Jimmy on X — https://twitter.com/JimmyScroggins

    Leslee Bennett on X — https://twitter.com/lesleedbennett

    Derek Simpson on X — https://twitter.com/dereksimpson

    Todd Gaston on X — https://twitter.com/toddgaston

    Jose DaSilva Email — [email protected]

    The Three Circles Family Church — https://www.familychurchnetwork.com/category/3-circles-gospeling-tool/

    Family Church Network — https://www.familychurchnetwork.com/

    Family Church on Facebook — https://m.facebook.com/FamilyChurchVillage

    Family Church on Instagram—

    https://www.instagram.com/gofamilychurch/

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    6 August 2024, 9:00 am
  • 27 minutes 18 seconds
    CFTROU 0194: How to Count Wins

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    CFTROU 0194: How to Count Wins

    In this episode, we dive into the numbers and metrics. While it’s not always all about the numbers in ministry, metrics help us gauge our impact in taking the gospel to every person in every neighborhood across South Florida. Our guests are Derek Simpson, Campus Pastor of Family Church Downtown, Todd Thomas, Campus Pastor of Family Church Sherbrooke, and Scott Crawford, Business Administrator and CFO of Family Church. If you would like to learn which metrics we measure, the process we follow to develop our metrics, and the goals we set around these metrics, then tune in today.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • How metrics and dashboards are helpful reporting tools and help leaders determine strategy.
    • The metrics and reporting tools used in different ministry areas.
    • What the metrics mean to our Lead Pastor.
    • The process of identifying and developing metrics used in our context.
    • The importance of being good stewards of the resources that have been given to us.
    • What we do if we see participation is waning.
    • How metrics can help us look at the past to see what should happen in the future.
    • How baptisms are a celebratory metric across our campuses.
    • Building culture through a leadership development program for our kids.
    • Cultivating our culture – our main goal.
    • Lead measures vs. lag measures.
    • The number one metric at Family Church.

    If you don’t evaluate and measure, you can’t tell the impact of certain things and whether they are succeeding or not.
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    Numbers paint a picture of what God is doing and they help us know what’s working and what’s not.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Todd on X

    Scott on X

    Derek on X

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on X

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

    Church for the Rest of Us on X

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    23 July 2024, 9:30 am
  • 30 minutes 26 seconds
    CFTROU 0193: How Meals, Meetings, and Retreats Build Culture

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    CFTROU 0193: How Meals, Meetings, and Retreats Build Culture

    Meals and meetings are an everyday occurrence in most organizations and workspaces, and retreats are also commonplace. However, did you know that there are three aspects of work life can help to grow your culture? In this episode, our guests include Pastor Christian Ramos. He leads our worship ministry across our family of neighborhood churches. We also welcome Derek Simpson, Campus Pastor of Family Church Downtown, and Todd Thomas, Campus Pastor of Family Church Sherbrooke, to discuss how meals, meetings, and retreats work to help build culture. We discuss how meals strengthen relationships, how meetings grow culture, how retreats expand the mind, among other benefits. Be sure to tune in!

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • What it means to have meals that advance the church’s mission.
    • How meals strengthen relationships and how to navigate meals with the opposite gender.
    • Ways that the various types of meetings at Family Church affect our culture.
    • The importance of preparation and advice for structuring meetings to grow culture.
    • Why we go on several retreats.
    • How retreats lead to mindset shifts and changes of heart.
    • Retreats as cultural, relationship, and product accelerators.
    • Tips to get the most out of your retreats.

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    We’re big on accountability, so we have action items in all of our meetings.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Todd on X

    Genesis 3

    Death by Meeting

    If it Ain’t Broke… Break It!

    Todd on X https://twitter.com/indiantodd

    Christian on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/christianramos

    Derek on Xhttps://twitter.com/dereksimpson

    Jimmy on X

    Leslee on X

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

    Church for the Rest of Us on X

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    9 July 2024, 9:30 am
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