Knowing Faith

Training The Church

The Christian faith is not mindless or irrational. Knowing Faith is a podcast exploring how our faith is founded upon Scripture. We believe the Bible is for everyone and are committed to helping the Church understand where their faith is rooted. Hosted by Jen Wilkin, JT English and Kyle Worley, this podcast dives into Christian story, belief, and practice in a way that is accessible to everyone.

  • 27 minutes 7 seconds
    #236 — Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships? with Rebecca McLaughlin

    Kyle Worley is joined by Rebecca McLaughlin to talk about her newest book “Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” 

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Why did you write this book?
    • What are the top three most common claims you deal with in the book? 
    • How can Christians speak the truth in love online and in person when it comes to addressing these claims?
    • What do you hope Christians will do with this book?

    Guest Bio:

    Rebecca McLaughlin holds a PhD from Cambridge University and a theology degree from Oak Hill Seminary in London. She is the author of several books, including Confronting Christianity, The Secular Creed, Jesus Through the Eyes of Women, and Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?. You can follow her on X, Instagram, or her website.

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    25 July 2024, 10:00 am
  • 54 minutes 51 seconds
    REMIX: Brothers and Sisters: More Than A Metaphor

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley come back to one of their most popular topics; brothers and sisters.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Indisputably: This is something we get more feedback on than just about anything else…why is that?
    • How has the culture shift affected this conversation?
    • What has been the church's response to the shift in culture?
    • What does the biblical doctrine of anthropology related to men and women have to affirm?
    • When we say “we need each other,” what does that mean?
    • What are the threats and liabilities of relationships? What about not having these relationships?
    • Why are we using family-oriented language in this conversation?
    • Does this apply to those who are not believers?
    • How has this changed us? How has it changed our ministries?
    • Why is getting this right crucial?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Adelphoi (ἀδελφοί): Brothers and sisters. The family of God.
    • Philia: A kind of love that exists only among family, not just biologically but spiritually through the blood of Christ.

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    18 July 2024, 10:00 am
  • 34 minutes 37 seconds
    #235 — Union with Christ with Sam Allberry

    Kyle Worley is joined by Sam Allberry to have a conversation about union with Christ and both of their new books!

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Why do we need more books about union with Christ?
    • Why did you title the book “One with My Lord”?
    • Why did you title your book “Home with God”?
    • When did this doctrine first become precious to you?
    • What is “union with Christ?”
    • Do you see any connection between the covenant love of God and union with Christ?
    • What did you learn while writing this book?
    • When people read your book - what do you hope is the one thing they walk away with?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Union with Christ: 
      • When we come to believe in Jesus we are made one with Him. We are so spiritually one with Jesus that His righteousness becomes ours and it is right for our sin to be carried by Him.
      • The believer's identification, incorporation, and participation into all who Christ is and all that Christ does.

    Guest Bio:

    Sam Allberry is a pastor, apologist and speaker. He is the author of a number of books, including Is God Anti-Gay?, Why Bother with Church?, 7 Myths about Singleness, and What God Has To Say About Our Bodies. He has written extensively for numerous organizations, including The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, and Living Out. Learn more about Sam’s books.

    Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

    • Revelation 21-22, Ephesians 2, Colossians 3, Matthew 28:20, Romans 6, 1 Corinthians 6, Hebrews 10:14
    • “One with My Lord” by Sam Allberry
    • “Home with God” by Kyle Worley

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    11 July 2024, 10:00 am
  • 43 minutes 36 seconds
    REMIX: Salvation - Union with Christ

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation, union with Christ.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What is the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation?
    • Why does Paul continually use the preposition “in”?
    • It is possible to live in this world as an individual not united to someone else?
    • I grew up hearing Christ in me, not me in Christ; where is the emphasis? Why was I presented with the opposite?
    • What is the doctrine of union with Christ?
    • How have we imported modern conceptions of identity on being in Christ?
    • What is the difference between dying to self and living with Christ and embracing those distinctions that you want to dignify?
    • It is important to value diversity?
    • How is union with Christ different from communion with God?
    • If someone said they were feeling cold in their relationship with God, how would you respond to them?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Union with Christ:
      • A believers identification in Christ and incorporation into the body of all of those who are identified with Christ before God.
      • The unbreakable, unshakeable reception of all of God’s saving benefits.
      • Unbreakable relationship with God held by Jesus for His people, received by grace through faith.
    • Communion with Christ: Fellowship with God. The enjoyment of God’s saving benefits, it is shakeable and breakable and you can also deepen it.

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    4 July 2024, 10:00 am
  • 23 minutes
    #234 — From Garden to Glory with Courtney Doctor

    Jen Wilkin and Kyle Worley are joined by Courtney Doctor to discuss her new book From Garden to Glory!

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Why’d you write this book?
    • When was biblical theology on your radar?
    • What are the “aha” moments when telling the story of the Bible?
    • How does understanding the Bible as a great narrative change one’s faith?
    • You suggest that the structure of the bible’s story is a bit like a good fairy tale - what do you mean by that?
    • How do you picture this book being utilized in the local church?

    Guest Bio:

    Courtney Doctor is an author, Bible teacher, frequent conference and retreat speaker, and periodic blogger. She received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary in 2013 and is the author of several Bible studies, including From Garden to Glory, Steadfast, and In View of God's Mercies. She currently serves as the Director of Women's Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. Her greatest desire in all of this is to be able to faithfully study, apply, and teach the word of God and help others to do the same. God has blessed Courtney and her husband, Craig, with four wonderful children, three great kids-in-law, five sweet grandchildren — and their much-loved, goofy dog, Walter.

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    27 June 2024, 10:00 am
  • 47 minutes 49 seconds
    #233 — Season 12 Q&A

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners!

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • While we have unity in Christ…what 2nd, 3rd or 4th tier issues "divide" my favorite podcasters?
    • What do you think are going to be the challenges of ministry in the local church in the next ten years?
    • My local church has a tone of saying: “Just because you study the bible doesn’t mean you're mature in the faith…and discipleship doesn’t happen in programs, it happens in real relationships” Although both are true, I feel like it’s downplaying the indeed for people to be in active learning spaces. I’m just a volunteer bible teacher, help
    • When you go deer hunting, you fill a bucket with corn feed to get the deer to come out of hiding. If we were hunting you, what would we have to fill a bucket with to find you?
    • Should Christians watch the Chosen?
    • Should there be apprehension toward hiring a pastor without formal seminary training?
    • What is your favorite Girl Scout cookie?
    • How do we think about relating to Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox friends? Should we find unity still when we as Protestants disagree heavily on some matters?
    • Do you think modern believers misunderstand anything about heaven? If so, what?
    • If Jesus was killed by Herod upon birth would that change anything theologically?
    • Did Jesus die for everyone?
    • Can you speak about how there are some laws that we should still obey from the OT but not all of them?
    • In the New City Catechism in Q.2 they ask: “What is God?” Why did they use “what” instead of “who?”
    • Can a pastor faithfully use A.I. in the production of material for a sermon?

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    20 June 2024, 10:00 am
  • 39 minutes 52 seconds
    #232 — Remaking the World with Andrew Wilson

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Andrew Wilson to discuss his new book, Remaking the World.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Why did you write this book? 
    • What did you want people to take away from this book?
    • Can you explain the “WEIRDER” acronym and how it’s helpful for understanding the Western world?
    • What do you mean by romanticism?
    • How would you help someone see the lenses they have on when reading the Bible and how to shape and form new ones?
    • Are American readers reading this differently?
    • Were you intentionally trying to balance the ditch between the West being bad and the West being supreme?
    • What is your next writing project?

    Guest Bio:

    Andrew is Teaching Pastor at King’s Church London, and has degrees in history and theology from Cambridge (MA) and King’s College London (PhD). He is a columnist for Christianity Today, and has written several award-winning books, most recently Remaking the World: How 1776 Created the Post-Christian West.

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    13 June 2024, 10:00 am
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    REMIX: A Generous Complementarianism

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss complementarianism and why a healthy ecclesiology is important for this conversation. Before you listen to this episode be sure to listen to Knowing Faith Episode #44 – A Generous Complementarianism.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What is a pastor?
    • Why is there confusion over this office/title?
    • How is this title misused?
    • Who can be a pastor?
    • How does the office of pastor relate to the priesthood of all believers?
    • Who is qualified to do what? (Non-qualified men, women, non pastors, etc.)
    • How should some of the other ongoing conversations among evangelicals and Southern Baptists shape the way we approach these questions?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Pastor: Office an elder, bishop, overseer, pastor. Defined and reserved for qualified men, who are ordained, to function and hold the office in local churches of what it means to be a pastor/elder/shepherd.
      • Episkopos (ἐπίσκοπος)
      • Presbyteros (πρεσβύτερος)
      • Poimenas (ποιμένας)
    • Anthropology: The doctrine of humanity.
    • Ecclesiology: The doctrine of the church.

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    6 June 2024, 10:00 am
  • 9 minutes 4 seconds
    After the Fact: How Do We Pray the Bible? with Don Whitney

    Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question, how do we pray the Bible?

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • How do we pray the Bible?
    • Where should people begin when starting to pray the Bible?

    Guest Bio:

    Dr. Whitney is Associate Dean of the School of Theology and Professor of Biblical Spirituality. Dr. Whitney is a member of Third Avenue Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He is the author of many books including but not limited to; Praying the Bible and Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life. Whitney is married to Caffy, and they have one child. 

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    31 May 2024, 10:00 am
  • 23 minutes 9 seconds
    #231 – Looking Back on Exodus

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley wrap up the conversation on the book of Exodus!

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What have you learned as we explored Exodus over these two seasons?
    • Where did we see the themes in Exodus in the rest of the Story of the Bible?
    • What is biblical theology and how are we able to make connections across scripture?
    • How can someone learn how to make connections across scripture?
    • How can someone dive deeper into the study of Exodus?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Systematic Theology: What the Bible says about specific doctrines. 
    • Biblical Theology: Categorizing themes or stories throughout Scripture. 

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    30 May 2024, 10:00 am
  • 33 minutes 27 seconds
    #230 — The Glory of the Lord with Amy Gannett (Exodus 40)

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Amy Gannett to continue the story of Exodus by discussing the themes found in Exodus 40. 

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What’s your favorite part of the Exodus story?
    • What is the purpose of the Tabernacle?
    • Does the Tabernacle contain the glory and presence of God?
    • Where has the cloud and fire shown up so far in the story?
    • What is God inviting his people into with the tabernacle, journey into the land, and waiting?
    • Do we get the cloud and fire type elsewhere in the story?
    • What comes next in the Pentateuch?

    Guest Bio:

    Amy Gannett (M.Div, Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary) is a speaker, writer, and Bible teacher. She is the author of several exegetical Bible studies, and her teaching and writing has been featured on Christian outlets like Well-Watered Women, The Gospel Coalition, JourneyWomen, Risen Motherhood, and Christ and Pop Culture.

    She is also the founder of Tiny Theologians, which offers training tools for parents and children’s ministries, equipping them to pass on the Christian faith to the next generation. You can find her online at amygannett.com, and on social media at @amycategannett and @tinytheologians.

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    Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

    23 May 2024, 10:00 am
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