Knowing Faith

Training The Church

The Christian faith is not mindless or irrational. Knowing Faith is a podcast exploring how our faith is founded upon Scripture. We believe the Bible is for everyone and are committed to helping the Church understand where their faith is rooted. Hosted by Jen Wilkin, JT English and Kyle Worley, this podcast dives into Christian story, belief, and practice in a way that is accessible to everyone.

  • 37 minutes 26 seconds
    The Wooden Throne with Jeremy Treat (Doctrine of Atonement)

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Jeremy Treat to discuss the doctrine of atonement.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • When and how did we learn about the atonement?
    • What is the event of the atonement? What does the word mean?
    • How is the cross an enthronement ceremony?
    • What do we gain when we view the atonement with this lens?
    • Is there a predominant theme in the atonement?
    • How do the atonement, resurrection, and ascension connect?
    • How have theologians talked about atonement using humiliation and exaltation?
    • How does that truth change the way we live?
    • What can be the hardest part of the atonement to begin to understand?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Atonement: 
      • At onement; two things that have been torn apart are being brought back together to be one again.
      • How sin has separated us from God and what God has accomplished to make us at one with Him again.

    Guest Bio:

    Jeremy Treat (PhD, Wheaton College) is Pastor for Preaching and Vision at Reality LA, a young and thriving church in the heart of Hollywood, California. He is also an adjunct professor of theology at Biola University and is the author of several books including but not limited to; Seek First: How the Kingdom of God Changes Everything and The Crucified King: Atonement and Kingdom in Biblical and Systematic Theology. 

    Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

    • Mark 1:14-15, Mark 15, Philippians 2, John 12, Romans 8:17, Matthew 5-7
    • “The Crucified King” by Jeremy Treat
    • “​​Dominion” by Tom Holland
    • “The Atonement” by Jeremy Treat
    • “The Crucifixion” by Fleming Rutledge

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    20 March 2025, 10:00 am
  • 6 minutes 49 seconds
    After the Fact: Why does Community Matter for Ministry Preparation? With Jason Allen

    Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Allen to answer the question, “Why is community crucial for ministry preparation?”

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Why is community crucial for ministry preparation?

    Guest Bio:

    Dr. Jason Allen is the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to his role as president, he also serves as a professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. He is the author of a number of books including; Turnaround: The Remarkable Story of an Institutional Transformation and the 10 Essential Principles and Practices That Made It Happen. He posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.

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    18 March 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 42 minutes 47 seconds
    7-7-7 (Revelation 15-17)

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the book of Revelation to discuss chapters 15-17.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • We’ve been talking about cycles of 7 this season - what we are looking for here?
    • What's the point of Revelation?
    • What is this history showing us?
    • What is the song of Moses supposed to remind us of?
    • What about the sea?
    • What is the new song?
    • How else is this text pointing back to Exodus? (temple, bowls of wrath)
    • What or where is Armageddon?
    • Why is it important to not be naked?
    • Seventh bowl brings cosmic cataclysmic judgment?
    • Revelation 17 shifts focus to the Great Prostitute and the Beast - what is going on?
    • Why does Babylon have such significance?
    • How do the city of God and the city of man have an impact on the story of the Bible?
    • How are we meant to be encouraged by this portion of Revelation?

    Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

    • Revelation 15-17, Revelation 14:3, Matthew 22:1-14, Romans 8, Leviticus 24:16, Genesis 11, Joel 3:12-16

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    13 March 2025, 10:00 am
  • 10 minutes 10 seconds
    After the Fact: Lest We Drift - Two Departure Dangers From The True Gospel With Jared Wilson

    Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to discuss his new book “Lest We Drift” and answer the question, what happens if we depart from the one true gospel?

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Why did you write “Lest We Drift: Five Departure Dangers from the One True Gospel”?
    • What are two of the five dangers?
    • What is the solution?

    Guest Bio:

    Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace.

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    11 March 2025, 10:00 am
  • 33 minutes 51 seconds
    Mere Christian Hermeneutics with Kevin Vanhoozer

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Kevin J. Vanhoozer to discuss his new book, “Mere Christian Hermeneutics.”

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • Can you give our listeners a sense of your larger interest? What are you trying to accomplish in your body of work? What’s your goal as you write and teach?
    • What is hermeneutics?
    • What is the Bible? What is it meant to do?
    • What is mere Christianity? What’s a mere Christian hermeneutic?
    • What is the literal sense?
    • Is a mere Christian hermeneutic composed of biblical insight, theological truth, and/or transformation application? Focused on one over the other? Something entirely different?
    • How does a person, an individual bible reader/studier, look to cultivate this kind of approach? How do we read the Bible well?
    • How would you distinguish historical mere Christian reading from Christian sub-cultural reading of the scriptures?
    • How does the beatific vision of beholding God, shape the way we read and interpret scripture?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Hermeneutics: The principles and practices for understanding the Biblical text.

    Guest Bio:

    Dr. Kevin Vanhoozer is research professor of systematic theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and the author of many books, including but not limited to: Faith Speaking Understanding, Hearers and Doers: A Pastors Guide to Making Discipleship through Scripture and Doctrine, and Mere Christian Hermeneutics. 

    He is theological mentor to the Augustine Fellowship of the Center for Pastor Theologians and Senior Fellow of the C. S. Lewis Institute for Discipleship. He is married to Sylvie (author of The Art of Living in Season and The Art of Living in Advent), has two daughters and one son-in-law.

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    6 March 2025, 11:00 am
  • 43 minutes 16 seconds
    Beast Mode (Revelation 13-14)

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the book of Revelation by looking at chapters 13-14.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What is Revelation?
    • Who is the beast? What about the sea?
    • How do we understand the dragon, the beast from the sea, and the beast from the earth?
    • What is your personal experience with the mark of the beast?
    • How are we supposed to understand the number of the beast?
    • How do we see the battle of the seed of the women vs. seed of the serpent?
    • Who is the lamb in Revelation 14?
    • Who are the 144,000?
    • What do the angels show up to do?
    • What about Revelation 14:12?
    • What other imagery and symbolism do we find?

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    27 February 2025, 11:00 am
  • 6 minutes 27 seconds
    After the Fact: Do Seminaries Actually Help The Local Church? With Dean Inserra

    Kyle Worley is joined by Dean Inserra to answer the question, how have you seen seminary education benefit your local church?

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • How have you seen seminary education benefit your local church?
    • What does being “for the church” really mean for a seminary?

    Guest Bio:

    Dean Inserra is the founding and lead pastor of CITYCHURCH, where he leads the vision and preaching. Dean graduated from Liberty University and attended Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, KY. He holds a MA in Theological Studies from Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and is pursuing a D.Min from Southern Seminary. Dean is married to Krissie, and they have two sons, Tommy and Ty, and two daughters, Sally Ashlyn and Marci.

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    25 February 2025, 11:00 am
  • 39 minutes 34 seconds
    What Hath the Gospel To Do With The Kingdom? with Patrick Schreiner

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Patrick Schreiner to discuss what the gospel of the Kingdom is.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • When the New Testament says that Jesus was preaching the gospel of the kingdom, before his death, burial, resurrection, and ascension; what gospel is he preaching?
    • How does “the Kingdom” help frame the story of the Bible?
    • When you share the gospel with somebody, do you include kingdom language?
    • How does Matthew 1:1 show us two sides of the gospel?
    • Has the conversation around the message of the kingdom changed?

    Guest Bio:

    Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books, including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World.

    Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

    • 1 Corinthians 15, Romans 1, Matthew 4:23, Galatians 3:8, Matthew 1:1, Matthew 16, 1 & 2 Samuel
    • Deep Discipleship Program
    • “The Kingdom of God” by Patrick Schreiner, Dane Ortlund, and Miles V Van Pelt
    • “A Theology of the Ordinary” by Julie Canlis

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    20 February 2025, 11:00 am
  • 45 minutes 5 seconds
    Beauty and the Beast? (Revelation 12-13)

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the imagery and symbolic history found in Revelation 12.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What is the purpose of Revelation?
    • Where are we in the book of Revelation?
    • Who is the dragon? Who is the child? Who is the woman?
    • Where do we find a contrast between a woman and a dragon in the story of the bible prior to Revelation?
    • How is Revelation providing instruction on how a Christian can rightly think about what it means to be engaged in spiritual war?
    • What about Ephesians 6, how does that relate?

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    13 February 2025, 11:00 am
  • 43 minutes 7 seconds
    Jesus: Liar, Lunatic, or Lord? (Incarnation and Christology)

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss a core doctrine of the Christian faith; Christology.

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What is the common approach to Jesus in our cultural moment?
    • Where should someone start if they want to dive deep into the question of who is Jesus?
    • What about when Colossians 1 calls him the “firstborn?”
    • What are the essentials of Christology?
    • What are the implications of leaning into one of the natures of Jesus?
    • In the creeds (Athanasian, Apostles, Nicene, Chalcedon) they focus on clarifying who, what, and how Christ is. Why this intense focus so early on?
    • How does Christ perfectly fulfill the three offices of prophet, priest, and king?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Logos: The word.
    • Σκηνόω: Skénoó: To dwell, to tabernacle, to pitch a tent.
    • Arianism: The false view that Jesus, the Son of God, is the first created being. 
    • Πρωτότοκος: Prototokos: First-born, eldest.
    • Communication of Attributes: We communicate from the two natures; the divine nature and the human nature to the one person Jesus Christ. Anything you can say about God you can say about Jesus, anything you can say about humanity, except sin, you can say about Jesus.
    • Docetism: The false belief that Jesus’s humanity was a figment or presentation, not a true human nature.

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    6 February 2025, 11:00 am
  • 29 minutes 28 seconds
    Deep Discipleship: An Invitation

    Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what it means to be a disciple and launch a preview of their Deep Discipleship Program!

    Questions Covered in This Episode:

    • What is the need of the hour in the church today in the global west?
    • What is a disciple?
    • Why should we spend our time learning?
    • What is deep discipleship?
    • Why is community important?
    • What do disciples need?
    • How do we pursue deep discipleship?
    • What is the goal of deep discipleship?
    • What is the Deep Discipleship Program?

    Helpful Definitions:

    • Disciple: Learner

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    30 January 2025, 11:00 am
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