This week on Typology, I sat down with my dear friend, therapist and spiritual director, Michael Cusick for a raw, wise, and deeply compassionate conversation about the connection between attachments and our path to healing.

Michael—founder of Restoring the Soul and a true guide for the journey inward—helps us unpack the idea that our symptoms (anxiety, compulsions, burnout, you name it) aren’t signs we’re broken…but sacred signals that our soul is calling for care.

We talk about:

• How trauma, shame, and burnout stand in the way of our relationship with God 
• Why “trying harder” doesn’t lead to transformation
• What spiritual bypassing actually looks like—and how to avoid it
• The Four S’s of attachment -- seeing, soothing, safety, and security – and the crucial role they play in spiritual healing

This is one of those episodes you’ll want to listen to more than once and maybe share with a friend who’s in the thick of it.

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How do you cultivate open-heartedness? Tune in as the insightful Jeff Chu, author of the new memoir, Good Soil: The Education of an Accidental Farmhand and a self-identified Enneagram Six, shares what he learned on his journey from a successful career in journalism to the unexpected life of a farmhand at Princeton's Farminary.

We explore the fascinating intersection of farming and personal growth, discussing how engaging with the land has taught Jeff invaluable lessons about trust, fear, and the beauty of second chances. As he reflects on his experiences, he reveals how farming has helped him embrace uncertainty and cultivate an open heart, even amidst anxiety.

Here are a few highlights you won't want to miss:

• The surprising connection between farming and spiritual growth.

• How Jeff's experiences as an Enneagram Six have shaped his understanding of trust and community.

• The importance of letting go and recognizing the safety nets that support us in life.

• A candid discussion about the fears we all face and how to transform them into something fruitful.

Whether you're a fellow Six or simply curious about the Enneagram, this episode is packed with wisdom and humor that will resonate with you.

Join us as we uncover the beauty of open-heartedness and the lessons that come from tending to both soil and spirit.

 

Today on Typology, we dig into the Enneagram with our special guest, Jessica Chen, an Enneagram 3 and author of the insightful book Smart, Not Loud: How to Get Noticed at Work for All the Right Reasons.

Join us as we explore the unique challenges faced by quieter personality types in the workplace, particularly those identified as Enneagram 4s, 5s, 6s, and 9s. Jessica shares her personal journey of navigating a "quiet culture" and how it shaped her professional life. We discuss the importance of self-awareness, effective communication, and the strategies that can help quieter individuals find their voice and thrive in their careers.

Key topics include:

• The significance of understanding different Enneagram types

• How to build your career brand and get noticed for the right reasons

• Practical tips for engaging in conflict and celebrating accomplishments

• The ARC method: Ask, Runway, Celebrate

Whether you're an introvert looking to make your mark or a leader wanting to create a more inclusive environment, this episode is packed with valuable insights and actionable advice.

Don't forget to check out Jessica's book and connect with her on LinkedIn for more resources!

Listen now and discover how to navigate the workplace with confidence!

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Join us for an enlightening episode of the Typology Podcast as we dive deep into the complexities of marriage through the lens of the Enneagram with our special guests, Dr. Dan Allender and Dr. Steve Call. In this episode, we explore insights from their book, The Deep-Rooted Marriage: Cultivating Intimacy, Healing, and Delight.

Discover how the Enneagram can provide clarity in relationships, particularly for those navigating the challenges of shame and vulnerability. Dan, an Enneagram 8, and Steve, an Enneagram 3, share their personal experiences and therapeutic wisdom on how to foster deep connection and understanding in marriage.

Key topics include:

• The importance of curiosity in conflict resolution

• How to cultivate awareness and mitigate shame and contempt

• The role of delight and awe in nurturing intimacy

• Practical advice for couples at different stages of marriage

Whether you're in a new relationship or have been in a partnership for decades, this conversation offers valuable wisdom for anyone looking to strengthen their relationship. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from two seasoned experts in the field!

 

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Is she an Enneagram Two, the Helper, or an Enneagram Three, the Achiever? Find out in today's episode with Emmy award-winning sports broadcaster, ESPN sideline reporter, author, keynote speaker, and someone known for her sideline shimmy, Lauren Sisler.

Through insightful typing questions, Ian guides Lauren on an exploration of her core motivations, fears, and traits that define her personality. We unpack the nuances of the Two and the Three, the challenges of codependency, and the importance of self-care and boundaries.

But this episode goes beyond just personality types. In this candid conversation, Lauren shares her powerful story of overcoming the shame associated with losing her parents to opioid addiction. She opens up about shame the stigma surrounding addiction, how it shaped her identity, and the journey of overcoming that shame through storytelling and vulnerability.

Tune in for a heartfelt discussion that not only unpacks the Enneagram but also highlights the power of sharing our stories and the healing that comes from embracing our true selves.

 

This week we welcome the incredible Jason Wahler, a passionate advocate for addiction education and recovery. You may recognize Jason from shows like Laguna Beach, The Hills, and Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. His journey through addiction and recovery is both inspiring and enlightening.

In this episode, we discuss Jason's Enneagram type, which he recently discovered to be a 3 with a 2 wing. Together, we explore what this means for him personally and how it relates to his experiences in recovery. Jason shares his story of transformation, the challenges he's faced, and the profound insights he's gained along the way.

Here are some highlights you won't want to miss:

• Understanding the Enneagram: We break down what it means to be a Type 3 and how the 2 wing influences Jason's personality and relationships.

• The Journey of Self-Discovery: Jason reflects on how sobriety has allowed him to reconnect with his true self and rediscover his passions.

• The Role of Codependency: We discuss the importance of recognizing codependent behaviors and how they can impact recovery.

• Practical Insights: Jason shares valuable lessons on how to maintain balance and structure in life, especially in the context of recovery.

Tune in now to hear Jason's powerful story and learn how the Enneagram can provide clarity and understanding in your own life.

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In this episode of Typology, host Ian Cron welcomes Enneagram 7, Justin Heap, a creative consultant, certified Enneagram coach, and author. Together, they dive deep into the unique inner world of the Enneagram 7, particularly focusing on the one-to-one subtype, which often resembles the emotional depth of a four.

Join Ian and Justin as they explore:

• The adventurous spirit of Enneagram 7s and their love for possibility

• The often hidden emotional landscape beneath the lighthearted exterior of sevens

• The impact of childhood experiences on the development of a seven's personality

• The relationship between fear, anxiety, and the seven's quest for freedom

• The fascinating connection between sevens and fours, including the allure of mysticism

• Practical advice for young sevens on cultivating presence and deepening relationships

Whether you're a seven yourself or simply curious about the Enneagram, this episode offers valuable insights into understanding the complexities of this personality type.

Don't forget to check out Justin's latest book, "By & By & Never, Poetry and Art," and stay tuned for more enlightening discussions on the Enneagram!

Listen now and discover the rich inner world of the Enneagram 7!

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This week, our special guest, LaTasha Morrison, Enneagram 9 and the author of the award-winning New York Times bestseller, Be the Bridge shares insights from her latest book, Brown Faces, White Spaces: Confronting Systemic Racism to Bring Healing and Restoration, where she tackles the challenging topic of systemic racism with grace and compassion.

Join us as we explore LaTasha's journey of finding her voice and stepping into leadership as an Enneagram Nine, even in the face of conflict. We explore the importance of truth in the work of racial reconciliation and how LaTasha navigates difficult conversations in predominantly white spaces.

Discover how LaTasha's unique gifts as a bridge builder and change agent allows her to confront tough issues while fostering understanding and connection. This episode is a powerful reminder of the role of love, truth, and grace in the pursuit of justice and healing.Navi

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How do your aptitudes intersect with your Enneagram type? Aptitudes are about your innate abilities. Understanding your personal aptitudes can enhance your personal and professional relationships as it allows you to "pinpoint really specific things you can celebrate, lean into, and have confidence about," explains Betsy Wills.

Betsy Wills and Alex Ellison, co-authors of the insightful new book, Your Hidden Genius: The Science-Backed Strategy to Uncovering and Harnessing Your Innate Talents, join me to share their unique experiences with the Enneagram, their journey in writing their new book, and how they've made a once-expensive aptitude assessment accessible to everyone.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• The strengths and challenges of a One-Three working relationship

• How aptitudes and personality types intersect

• Practical advice for career wellness and personal fulfillment

• The significance of uncovering your innate talents

Don't miss out on this engaging conversation! Tune in now and take the first step towards uncovering your hidden genius.

 

 

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Alex Ellison is the founder of Throughline Guidance, a college and career counseling practice. Her work as a consultant has allowed her to work with individuals and organizations around the world. She writes and lectures extensively on the subject of careers and college readiness and has been a featured speaker at SXSWedu, NYU’s Stern School of Business, Northwestern University’s Alumni Association, the Kuala Lumpur International Youth Discourse, and TedX. Alex holds a degree in German and business from Northwestern University and a master’s in public policy from the University of Nevada. She lives in Santa Cruz, California.

LinkedIn and Substack | www.yourhiddengenius.com

Betsy Wills is the co-founder of YouScience, a national online psychometric-assessment service. She is a regular guest lecturer at Vanderbilt University and at New York University Stern School of Business and has been a featured speaker for TedX Women. She is also the Director of Marketing and Branding at Diversified Trust, a wealth management firm. She serves on the Advisory Board of the Peggy Guggenheim Museum in Venice and the Music City Center Authority in Nashville. Betsy is a graduate of Vanderbilt University and holds a Master’s of Education in Human Resource Development from Peabody College. She lives in Nashville.

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In this episode of Typology, we welcome special guest James Rhodes, co-founder and president of the artist-owned record label FiXT. As an Enneagram Type 9, James shares his journey of self-discovery through the Enneagram, the impact it has had on his family and work environment, and how he integrates it into his label's culture. We discuss the challenges of being a Type 9, including navigating anger and assertiveness, and the importance of self-care.

Tune in as James opens up about his personal growth, the dynamics of his 9-4 marriage, and the unique ways he channels his emotions through music. This episode is packed with insights for anyone interested in the Enneagram, personal development, and the music industry.

Key Highlights:

• Launch of the new Typology Institute Enneagram Assessment

• James Rhodes' journey as a Type 9 in the music industry

• The impact of the Enneagram on relationships and self-awareness

• Navigating anger and assertiveness as a Type 9

• The role of music in emotional expression

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What can we all glean from the 12 Steps? John Ortberg and I share an insightful conversation about the transformative power of the 12 steps for everyone. John, an Enneagram 3, begins by sharing his unique insights into the Enneagram and how it intersects with the journey of personal growth and spiritual development. Then, we dig into the 12 steps as a way of living.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• The significance of the 12 steps as a design for living that can benefit everyone, not just those struggling with addiction.

• John's personal experiences with the Enneagram and how it has shaped his understanding of himself and his relationships.

• The relationship between willpower and grace, and how surrendering to a higher power can lead to profound transformation.

• The importance of community and fellowship in the journey of recovery and spiritual growth.

Whether you're familiar with the 12 steps or new to the concept, this conversation promises to offer valuable insights that can revolutionize your life. Don't miss out on this opportunity to explore the depths of human experience and the path to deeper intimacy with God.

For deeper exploration, grab a copy of:

• Ian Cron's "The Fix: How the Twelve Steps Offer a Surprising Path of Transformation for the Well-Adjusted, the Down-and-Out, and Everyone In Between."

• John Ortberg's "STEPS: A Guide to Transforming Your Life When Willpower Isn't Enough"

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