We talk about the Seattle scene he grew up in, Acceptance, Anberlin’s new stuff, and we go deep into his years on the road and how he’s balanced his career and family. Plus, your favorite topic, emo. Please listen to the latest Anberlin record, Vega, out on Equal Vision Records.

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Today, we welcome Will Sartain from S&S Presents and Best Friends Forever Festival. Will and I talk about Kilby Court, the longest-running all-ages venue in SLC, and his DIY past. We dive into first thoughts and planning for the festival. It's a really fun look behind the curtain on one of the most unique festivals hitting a specific time frame and Venn diagram we all know and love. If you’re on the way, you’re on your way back. If you've never heard of it, take a second and check it out. 

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Today on the podcast, we welcome sunny day real estate. Jeremy Enigk, William Goldsmith, and Dan Hoerner recently took time to chat with me ahead of this run around the anniversary of Diary. 

I didn’t edit it. I just talk to them as you would if you got to sit with them for an hour. I hope you feel you’re next to them, chiming in or nodding along. i can’t explain listening back to this the joy I feel hearing them all happy. This is a celebration. A band so cherished and revered is better than they were when you say you saw them first. Go see them now. 

I can’t explain how much getting 250 episodes feels, either. I can try, but through many ups and downs, as I’m sure you have going on now, in the past, or up ahead, it felt right to have this happen now. I struggle a lot with keeping up, and I struggle with thinking no one cares. This past year, I spent a lot of time looking for support in those ups and downs. 

Hearing SDRE laugh, talk over each other, remind each other of things, and support each other as they go down this road of not nostalgia but celebration and continuation of a band that goes beyond a word, a phase, or even a scene. 

From the bottom of my heart, thank you to Jeremy, William, and Dan for coming on and sharing a little about themselves. I hope you enjoy listening along with all the mistakes, my usual questions about emo. I think 250 in, I am not changing the format, there are plenty more stories to hear from our heroes, here’s to 250 more. 

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Tony and Jamie from Prawn come on the podcast to talk about getting back together, doomsday prepping, Erewhon, and we inform Tony about a Key and Peele sketch on texting.

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I last spoke to Orenda for episode 181 with her bandmate Maria Taylor for the band Azure Ray. Today, we’re discussing her new book, “The Witch’s Daughter.” I finished this book in about four days and couldn’t put it down. It’s an amazing book about trauma. There will be something that resonates with you, a family member, or a friend at some point while reading this book. If you aren't convinced, you will want to read this book after listening to the conversation.

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Vagrant Records was on fire in the 2000s. That fire was fueled by their music videos, which, at the time, was how you got to the kids. Maureen Barry was a true pioneer in making amazing videos in this scene, and with some timing, millions saw them. This is how she started; the stories are attached to some of your favorite band's music videos and careers.

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Today, we welcome John Anderson from Boys Life and Suburban Eyes. We talk about the recent unreleased songs from Boys Life streaming via Numero Group and his new group, Suburban Eyes, with Eric Richter from Christie Front Drive and Jeremy Gomez from Mineral. Suburban Eyes' record is out in August via Spartan Records. I hope you enjoy the episode!

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Boys Life / Suburban Eyes

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David NeSmith has been part of some groundbreaking bands in emo. He's not afraid to say it throughout the episode, either! From Maximillian Colby's screamo days to the dissonance of Sleepytime Trio and his work with Bats & Mice. They all scream not just emo but a need to create and share new sounds still to this day. Dave made a playlist you can check out on WashedUpEmo.com or below on the discography of his career. Dive in.

The new Bats & Mice record is called Ps: Seriously.

Dave's playlist

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Today on the podcast, we welcome John O'Callaghan from The Maine. The Maine have had a long history in the scene and are about to jump on the Sad Summer Tour. John and I spoke about emo extensively and how the band and the music have stayed alive after all these years. I love how little it took to edit. I had a blast talking to John about all things music and emo. 

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Today on the podcast, we welcome Vish Khanna from the Kreative Kontrol podcast. Vish has had almost 900 guests from across the creative spectrum. A truly amazing interviewer, and it was an honor to have him on the show. Thanks to Holmes from American Football for connecting us!

http://vishkhanna.com/

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Today on the podcast, we welcome David Mitchell from the Montreal-based band Gulfer. I have loved them since I first heard them in the 2010s. I’ve had a soft spot for their sound and continued work ethic to make music through things that happen in life. Their most recent album, out as of late February, is called Third Wind, and boy, do we get on the chats about waves of emo and the in-between waves as well. Thanks to Topshelf Records, the excellent label that helped put this interview together. Go check out Gulfer. It's a gem worth taking repeated spins in the car with the windows rolled down. 

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Gulfer's Definitive Guide to 4.5 Wave Emo (2015-2018)

https://www.topshelfrecords.com/roster/gulfer

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