As we anticipate the inauguration of President-Elect Trump later this month, we take a moment to consider how some of his public comments and proposed policies will affect global neighbors that are fleeing violence and seeking refuge in the US. To guide us through this conversation, we have Medard Ngueita on the show. Medard is the Executive Director at World Relief Western Washington. He has a vast knowledge on refugee resettlement not only as a long time team member at World Relief, but also because he was once an asylum seeker himself. Medard talks with Brandon Stiver about the ramifications of the first Trump administration on refugee resettlement and how organizations are preparing for the prospective policies that will be enacted in the upcoming administration.

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Follow Up Resources on President-Elect Trump's Proposed Immigration Policies

NPR Report - This report is a little dated and you can skip most of it, but the start of the segment includes clips of President-Elect Trump saying he plans to close refugee resettlement

Center for Migration Studies - The US Refugee Admissions Program: What's at Stake in the Election

KFF - Expected Immigration Policies Under a Second Trump Administration and Their Health and Economic Implications

Christian Post - "Why President-elect Trump should defend persecuted Christians" by Myal Greene and Ryan Brown

World Relief Press Release - World Relief Troubled by Rumors that Trump Administration Will Rescind Guidance Limiting Immigration Enforcement Activities in Churches and other “Sensitive Locations”

Conversation Notes

• 3:27 - The work of World Relief Western Washington and how they partner with the church to engage global crises
• 5:20 - Who is our neighbor that we are called to love?
• 7:35 - Medard’s own journey as a political asylum seeker from Chad
• 12:05 - The countries people are fleeing currently that are arriving in Western Washington
• 16:22 - Certain countries fly under the radar but are producing forcibly displaced people and most end up in neighboring countries refugee camps
• 19:40 - Comparing Medard’s arrival almost 20 years ago with what asylum seeking looks like now
• 23:50 - Reflecting on President Trump’s immigration and refugee policies that sought reduce the amount of asylum seekers entering the country from Latin America
• 29:10 - When President Obama left office, he set the refugee resettlement mark at 100,000 people, President Trump reduced it to 22,000
• 30:43 - The rub between international UN policies and nationalist sentiment within Western countries
• 46:30 - What churches can do to help refugees that are coming to the US in 2025
• 55:10 - The importance of a stance of humility and prayer in pursuing a life of justice

Happy New Year's Eve! We have so much to be thankful for as we reflect on the last year of nonprofit ministry, podcasting, family and everything else! In this end of 2024 episode, Brandon and Phil will catch up our listeners on what is happening in their personal lives and ministry. Most importantly to you, dear listener, we share about the state of the podcast, how it's been since we did some rebrand/rescope and what the future of the podcast is. This is an episode for those listeners that want a peek behind the curtain and are looking for more ways to go deeper with Think Global, Do Justice.

Conversation Notes

• Phil and Brandon share about how God has been moving in their respective organizations in 2024 (Providence World and CarePortal) (0:30)
• The hosts share their top books and movies from the year (13:00)
• They share their favorite episodes from Think Global, Do Justice(22:20)
• Brandon shares the state of the podcast, where we're going (if we're going), how we're doing internally and what traction we have with a competitive podcast market (30:30)
  • Think Global, Do Justice ranks in the top 2% of podcasts globally with over 1,800 downloads each month (but that's a challenging place to be!)
  • The challenge of keeping podcasts viable in 2024
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• The 2025 outlook for the podcast and keeping current on the show (40:40)

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Rescuing the Gospel from the Cowboys by Richard Twiss (book)

Rooting for Rivals by Peter Greer and Chris Horst (book)

Strong and Weak by Andy Crouch (book)

Lead with Prayer by Peter Greer, Ryan Skoog and Cameron Doolittle (book)

Overcoming by Dr. Nicole Wilke and Dr. Amanda Howard (book)

Leading from Your Knees with Peter Greer and Ryan Skoog (podcast)

What Scripture and Science Say about Resilience with Dr. Nicole Wilke (podcast)

Owning Poverty with Dr. Michael Pucci (podcast)

Decolonizing Theology and Integral Mission with Dr. Ruth Padilla DeBorst (podcast)

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The gospel is to be proclaimed and word and deed. Sometimes global practitioners easily step into the demonstration of justice and development work, but how do we make meaningful strides towards sharing the gospel's message with those we reach with critical life-saving services. Christopher Beth from The Bucket Ministry joins the show today to share with Brandon Stiver and Phil Darke about the simple work that their ministry undertakes in fifteen countries to both provide water access and share the good news.

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Conversation Notes

• Christopher's path from a car accident to the Amazon rainforest to reaching over a million people with a clean water solution
• The different responses that follow interacting with global poverty for the first time
• The World Health Organization estimates that 785 million lack access to clean drinking water
• Scriptures that support reaching the nations and caring for the vulnerable
• Water as something that everyone recognizes they need and everyone can agree on making accessible
• The difference between having an ultimate motive and an ulterior motive
• Using the water filter as an object lesson to explain salvation to new hearers
• Intentionally spreading the gospel while guarding against spiritual abuse or coercion
• The critical work of local missionaries and pastors to follow up and serve the families that are reached with clean water

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Mercy comes in all shapes and sizes and in order to reach the 5 billion people without access to safe surgery, we need a litany of different models. Since 1978, Mercy Ships has been working to increase access to life changing surgeries in underserved areas of the world and Raeanne Newquist from their team joins the show to share about what it looks like to live and serve on a floating city. Raeanne talks with Brandon Stiver about what it's like to serve alongside your kids, collaborating with nationals and stepping out of our comfort zones to see God move in the lives of others.

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Conversation Notes

• 5:51 - Serving alongside your children in cross-cultural ministry
• 9:35 - “If we are followers of Jesus we are to live into the model that he showed for us”
• 11:00 - The specific approach of Mercy Ships and collaborating with large governments
• 15:43 - Working to address the 5 billion people that lack access to safe surgery
• 21:00 - The effects on children and adults when they have medical needs that go unaddressed
• 28:30 - The variety of people that can volunteer and serve on a Mercy Ship
• 31:00 - Safeguarding and risk management with a high volume of volunteers
• 35:19 - Collaboration with the local community to enhance cultural sensitivity and long term support
• 43:27 - Workforce development of Global South practitioners
• 50:27 - Focusing on all that God can do rather than just being overwhelmed by the size of the problems that we face. 

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The common adage "when you know better, you do better" makes sense. It also indicates that there is a need to transform what it is that we've been doing. When nonprofits around the world, including those working in Christian development and justice, recognize the need for organizational shifts, they may undertake the years-long process of change management. Perhaps your organization has gone through this (or perhaps it needs to!) To help us understand what change management looks like and what it says for organizations pursuing transformational development models, we have Dr. Casey Duthiers joining the show. Casey is the Director of Training and Development at Resilient Communities Center where their team supports practitioners around the world to improve their practice and increase their impact through intentional, Christ-centered professional development for development practitioners. She talks with Brandon Stiver about change management, short term missions and what it looks like to follow Jesus to the margins. Glad to have you join!

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Integral Mission and Decolonizing Theology with Dr. Ruth Padilla DeBorst

When Collaboration Helps Families with Dr. Brian Fikkert and Gabriel Walder

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Conversation Notes

• The persistence of intractable poverty and examining the roots of it all
• Valuing Catholic social teaching as a theological basis for the work that we do
• Following Jesus to the margins of society and serving there
• What does it look like to change from a simple charity model to an organization that is anchored in a transformational development approach
• The key drivers that lead to organizations wanting to change
• The constraints of a shrinking donor base for nonprofits and how that can actually drive us towards better work
• Centering short term missions within long term relationships
• The need for continuing education for community development practitioners
• Relationships are key in every way when it comes to justice work

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Trauma has the potential to cripple individuals that have experienced adversity, poverty and exclusion. There isn't an area where this is more clear than in global orphan care and there isn't a better person to walk us through what building resilience looks like than our guest today. Dr. Nicole Wilke is the Director at the CAFO Research Center where she leads a team focused on making research applicable to everyday practitioners in global child welfare. On the show, Nicole talks with Brandon Stiver and Phil Darke about what she's learned both from living in Peru as well as through the research that she has conducted in promoting better practice for orphaned and vulnerable children. We close our conversation with diving into the new book that she co-wrote with Dr. Amanda Howard called Overcoming which is out now. There's something in this conversation for everyone, so jump in with us!

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Caleb Koala's Comeback Ride

Overcoming: What Scripture and Science Say About Resilience (CAFO Site)

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CAFO's Core Elements

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Conversation Notes

• The needed mutuality between Global North and Global South within the family of God
• The difference between endogenous and exogenous empowerment in cross-cultural missional work
• Christians in orphan care had become known with leading with their hearts rather than their heads
• Addressing the distrust between research and Christian orphan care practice
• The products and resources at the CAFO Research Center that turns research into applicable practice
• How scripture and science align to bolster understandings of resilience
• Trauma is real and at the same time use of the word 'trauma' is often watered down in the West
• Adversity that turns into trauma happens at an instantaneous and subconscious level and will affect people differently
• The keys to building resilience that can happen at any time for anyone
• Data-informed practices and frameworks that will promote resilience in children

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The problems surrounding poverty are wicked and complicated. Pat answers and short term solutions are never going to get us where God is calling us to be. The challenge is that nonprofits often experience constraints (either real or perceived) that keep them from innovating better approaches to meeting peoples needs. We're joined today by Abe Wright and Greg Bixler who are the co-founders of Design Outreach. As an organization that not only values innovation but actively invests and rallies donors towards research and development, they've been able to provide significant upgrades to common problems in WASH and medical care. The communities that we partner with deserve better and Abe and Greg provide us with helpful insight and direction as we iterate and innovate.

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When Global Ministries Merge on Think Global, Do Justice (A Conversation with the Leadership from Water For Good)

Conversation Notes

• The necessity of transforming what it means to be a humanitarian organization and the ways in which we operate
• 40% of water pumps are no longer in function and we need to improve that
• The need for collaboration and working with government partners
• Understanding research and development as practical problem solving
• Comparing the efficacy of LifePump with other water pumps or water solutions. The importance of both access to water and the durability of water pumps.
• Wrapping your donors into the work of innovation even as some solutions don’t pan out
• Additional innovations in hygiene and medical care

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Recorded live from the CCDA Conference in Portland, Oregon, we are joined by three educators equipping students globally to think biblically and pursue justice. On the show today we have Dr. Karen Fancher and Dr. Greg Burch from the Multnomah Campus of William Jessup University alongside Ernesto Duke who is the President at Eternity Bible College. They join Brandon Stiver for a conversation around the trajectory of Christian higher education, balancing ethics and philosophy with skill set development and what it looks like to prioritize spiritual formation as we develop theory and practice.

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Global Development and Justice Master's Program (Jessup University)

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Blessed Are The Peacemakers with Dr. Karen Fancher

Conversation Notes

• 3:40 - The things that have been most remarkable about being at CCDA
• 9:20 - The complexity of teaching history where victors tell the stories
• 13:40 - Updates from OneAccord and the Lausanne Congress
• 17:20 - The model of making a biblically focused education available and affordable internationally
• 24:40 - The trajectory of higher education for global studies
• 30:00 - Balancing the development of skill sets with understanding the philosophy, ethic and theology underneath what we do
• 37:10 - The priority of slowing down and connecting with God before “doing” the work
• 40:40 - Pilgrimage as a spiritual practice to experience God

There is no lack of complex challenges when delivering health care in the epicenter of the HIV/AIDS crisis. On the show today, we have Echo VanderWal who is the Co-Founder and Executive Director at The Luke Commission in Eswatini. Echo joins Brandon Stiver and Phil Darke for a conversation about calling, the pain and loss created by the AIDS Crisis, the irreplaceable impact of PEPFAR and what it looks like to provide holistic care in rural communities. With over 20 years in the country, Echo points us to what excellence looks like as follow Christ's example of humble service.

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The Global HIV/AIDS Conversation

The Luke Commission Online

Conversation Notes

• 4:00 - What do Jesus, Conor McGregor and Osama Bin Laden all have in common?
• 5:35 - The importance of having the support of your family when being called to serve God overseas
• 6:55 - Following Christ’s example of service in loving our global neighbors
• 7:50 - The reality of HIV/AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa during the early 2000s inc consideration of the cost of transport, lack of medicine and poor treatment
• 11:35 - Pursuing professional investment in the national team that is delivering life-saving support in their own country
• 17:00 - The reality of inner pain and the orphaned spirit when family is lost
• 21:30 - Seeking care at scale within rural areas of Eswatini
• 23:35 - Eswatini has the rate of HIV/AIDS in the world - a resounding 26% and why we don’t want that number to go down
• 25:45 - The importance of international partners that provide anti-retrovirals
• 26:45 - How PEPFAR has positively impacted Eswatini, the work of the Luke Commission and what it looks like on the ground. 
• 29:10 - The dire reality of potential extinction when HIV/AIDS first expanded in Eswatini
• 31:35 - The erosion of bipartisan support in US politics and how it is now undermining the delivery of life-saving HIV/AIDS support for millions of people
• 35:00 - The risks that face people if PEPFAR pulls out
• 38:30 - The importance of comprehensive healthcare and tracking trends to help an array of health issues that arise across a population
• 47:00 - Don't wait to take the first step when it comes to engaging or even moving overseas to pursue God's heart for justice in the nations

All is futility! Even in Christian nonprofits? We're changing it up a little for episode 265 as Brandon does a solo dive into the book of Ecclesiastes to gather wisdom from Solomon that can inform what we do and more importantly how we do the work of global justice. In an age of Big Impact, this is a word for the nonprofit leader that cares about the ethic of our approach and the opportunity for a compounding influence in a world where it seems that nothing ever changes.

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Scriptures shared:

• Ecclesiastes 1: 1-4; 8-11
• Ecclesiastes 5: 8-10; 18
• Ecclesiastes 9: 7-10

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Conversation Notes

• "All is futility!" - Solomon
• The work of oppressors and corrupt politicians ends in futility, but what about our work that counters their work?
• Brandon shares some of his own global nonprofit futility
• The grace of recognizing how the world works even in it's vanity
• "Eat, drink and experience good"
• Andy Crouch throws shade and "impact" and Brandon says "Amen"
• Does our work matter?
• Getting our priority (singular) in order

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The number of forcibly displaced people in the world are at an all-time high. On every populated continent, we are seeing conflicts and climates that lead to people fleeing their homes. Our guest today is Myal Greene, who is the CEO of World Relief and he says that the global displacement crisis is the most significant issue that we face in the world today. We look at the last eighty years of how God has used World Relief to meet needs of people from war-torn areas and look at some of the most gripping conflicts today (Ukraine, Sudan and others). Myal has worked with World Relief for nearly two decades both within the US and in Africa. He walks us through what Christians should be aware of when it comes to displacement and how we can be instruments of welcome and support to global neighbors next door and abroad.

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Resources and Links from the show

Good News About Injustice by Gary A. Haugen

Welcoming the Stranger by Matthew Soerens and Jenny Yang

Walking with the Poor by Bryant Myers

Rich Christians Christians in an Age of Hunger by Ronald Sider

Refuge by Alexander Betts and Paul Collier

Refugee Stats from the UNHCR

The Evangelical Immigration Table

World Relief Online

Conversation Notes

• 9:40 - In the west, we don’t have a full conception of the level wealth and privilege that we have 
• 12:20 - Remembering the last eighty years of what God has done through World Relief
• 15:25 - Finding ways to work with the church and give sacrificially to help the hurting
• 16:45 - A story about the need for both eternal salvation and the restoration of the present
• 24:40 - The impact of the 2021 Haitian earthquake and the fall of Kabul as Myal stepped into his role of CEO at World Relief 
• 31:35 - The current displacement crisis is the greatest issue of our time
• 34:15 - “A smaller set of nations in the world are experiencing far greater suffering while the rest of the world is making continued and sustained progress in poverty alleviation”
• 36:55 - Contrasting the Ukraine case study with most other areas of poverty and ensuing conflict
• 38:45 - "Vulnerability is the likeliness that you will experience suffering as a result of shock"
• 40:50 - World Relief sets their focus on the global displacement crisis
• 43:00 - The church can be God’s instrument of welcome to those that have been forcibly displaced
• 46:12 - The importance of understanding underlying issues when discussing the arrival of refugees in a host country
• 52:40 - Working with the church under a biblical vision of community engagement
• 56:00 - Being inspired by God’s Word as a starting point for a life of justice 

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