Business Is Boring

The Spinoff

Business is Boring is a weekly podcast series presented by The Spinoff in association with Callaghan Innovation. Host Simon Pound speaks with innovators and commentators focused on the future of New Zealand.

  • 46 minutes 11 seconds
    Future State: What does sustainability look like at IKEA scale?

    HĂ„kan Nordkvist was, until recently, head of sustainability innovation for IKEA, one of the world's largest retailers. In New Zealand for Spark Business Lab's Future State, he joins guest host Duncan Greive on Business is Boring to talk about why the role of really big business in sustainability is underrated, how you protect innovation within large organisations and breaks down which of their initiatives really worked – and why.


    This episode is part of Future State, a technology summit from Spark Business Lab and Semi Permanent

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    13 May 2024, 5:00 pm
  • 52 minutes 10 seconds
    Future State: Idea to Impact – understanding circular business

    Bernard Hickey steps in to host a special live panel featuring three leaders in circular business, bio-materials and turning trash into treasure share their experiences in building better systems for business. Hear from Jayden Klinac of Anew, who replaces plastic with bio-materials; Sara Smeath from CiRCLR, turning waste from businesses into a resource for others, and Rachel Brown at the SBN who helps to connect and advance business practice in Aotearoa.


    This episode is part of Future State, a technology summit from Spark Business Lab and Semi Permanent

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    6 May 2024, 5:00 pm
  • 20 minutes 54 seconds
    Introducing Behind the Story: If you love a dog, you must also love disposing of its sh*t

    The Spinoff has just launched a brand new series called Behind the Story, where site editor editor Madeleine Chapman sits down with a staff writer or contributor to gain more insight about a big story on The Spinoff from the week. We thought you might like to check out the first episode, and if you enjoy it please follow it wherever you get your podcasts!


    On Friday, Bulletin editor Anna Rawhiti-Connell sent her final newsletter, and took the opportunity to share what she’s learned about the news over two years of curating it for thousands of New Zealanders. Earlier in the week, she’d seen reports of Auckland dog owners discarding their pets’ turds on the ground after Auckland Council removed bins across the city.


    And so, the column “If you love a dog, you must also love disposing of its shit” was born. Anna joins Madeleine Chapman to talk about the power journalists have when framing a story and how to find the middle ground between boring and sensational.


    For The Spinoff editor’s thoughts on the week that was, as well as a handpicked collection of the week’s best reads, subscribe to The Weekend with Madeleine Chapman newsletter at thespinoff.co.nz/newsletters

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    3 May 2024, 8:00 pm
  • 1 hour 1 second
    The new Aotearoa lead of Australasia’s biggest VC firm

    Blackbird VC recently netted $800m from a sale of a portion of their holding in Canva. They are, by some distance, the largest and one of the most successful VC firms in Australasia. In Aotearoa they have backed Tracksuit, Veve, Partly and Halter and their work to lift up the venture ecosystem includes Sunrise, Startmate and the Giants programme. Phoebe Harrop is the new local lead, with a background in consulting at Bain, working for Al Gore’s investment firm Generation and a few years growing the business in NZ. She joins Simon Pound to dig into what makes a good VC investment, what makes a great founder and how does NZ stack up against Australia?

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    22 April 2024, 5:00 pm
  • 36 minutes 9 seconds
    Has the AR/VR moment arrived?

    Jessica Manins is a Kiwi pioneer in the Augmented and Virtual Reality space. Her studio, Beyond, makes games, experiences and virtual worlds for immersive entertainment and storytelling. They are one of the first developers to be releasing a game for the new Apple Vision Pro, and they have been leaders in shared, positive experiences in the space for years. After the pandemic stopped their business in its tracks, Jessica has totally rebuilt and (at the time of recording) has just arrived back from SXSW and GDC with the latest on where virtual worlds are now, and where they are going.

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    15 April 2024, 5:00 pm
  • 46 minutes
    David Yu: 2023 EY entrepreneur of the year with Aotearoa’s fastest growing company

    David Yu’s company VeVe has sold more than 10 million digital collectables licensed from some of the world’s leading IP owners like Disney, Star Wars, Marvel, Lamborghini, and James Bond. As leaders in this fast growing space they have grown so fast they won the 2023 Deloitte Fast 50, and David won EY Entrepreneur of the Year. But what is a digital collectible? How did VeVe partner with the world’s most protective brand owners? And how have they grown so fast and done so well? Get the download from one of the best to do it!

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    8 April 2024, 5:00 pm
  • 51 minutes 9 seconds
    How Albert Cho went from IG influencer to Ponsonby restaurateur

    Albert Cho burst onto Aotearoa’s food scene in 2017 with Eat Lit Food, an Instagram account that dishes out forthright (and often profane) food reviews to an ever-expanding audience. What started as an attempt to redefine a problematic relationship with food quickly grew into a fully fledged career as an influencer, critic and writer. Last year, with the help of David Lee’s Namu Group, he opened Tobi on Ponsonby Road to rave reviews. Albert joins us for a candid chat about the origins of Eat Lit Food, and the journey to opening his first restaurant.

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    1 April 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 41 minutes 38 seconds
    Improving the food system, one wonky box at a time

    The first seeds for Wonky Box were planted when Angus Simms and Katie Jackson were fruit picking and saw how much wasted produce was caused by an unseasonal hail storm. The fruit was perfectly edible but aesthetically imperfect, so it was all left on the trees. This shock led to a now national food box service delivering wonky (but great) produce to people, and has so far saved more than 2 million kilograms of food going to waste. Co-founder Angus Simms joined us to chat the journey, improving the food system, and what’s next.

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    25 March 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 52 minutes 1 second
    The AI tools every business should already be using

    AI is the biggest topic in business, but where do you even begin? Mark Laurence, founder of Ten Past Tomorrow, is a local expert helping businesses get at the front of the AI curve. He joins Simon Pound to chat the tools every business needs, the rewards and risks of AI and just how close we are to an AI-driven world.

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    18 March 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 38 minutes 50 seconds
    Designing a te ao Māori agency

    Run is a local design and creativity business led with a te aƍ Māori and treaty partnership view. Their approach to inclusion is changing up how the industry looks at diversity at both a local and international level, making waves recently with their beautiful Manaakitanga D&AD Pencil project. Raymond Otene McKay and Laura Cibilich, co-founders of Run (CCO and CEO respectively) join Simon to chat their mahi, their kaupapa and their ambitions for the future.

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    11 March 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 51 minutes 52 seconds
    How to grow NZ Inc

    Simon Robertson has had a huge career in finance. In New York, for Goldman Sachs, he led up international and pan-Asian equities, before coming back to New Zealand to lead a large project for Rank Group, the private company of Graeme Hart, aka NZ's most successful businessperson. Simon is now a columnist for BusinessDesk, sharing his views on how New Zealand can grow its wealth and what is on the horizon for the world of business with the changes coming in from AI.

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    4 March 2024, 4:00 pm
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