Awkward Silences

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  • 47 minutes 19 seconds
    #147 - UX Research in Healthcare with Nadyne Richmond

    Erin and Carol explore the complexities of healthcare research with Nadyne Richmond, a healthcare design advisor with a background in big tech who pivoted to healthcare research a decade ago to tackle the pressing issues she saw in the system.

    Nadyne underscores the nuances of conducting user experience (UX) research within healthcare settings, unpacking the intersections of patients' lives, their health, financial well-being, and spiritual factors that can come with many diagnoses. She emphasizes the importance of being well-prepared to manage deep conversations, maintain objectivity while being viewed as human, and handle the delicacy of information with privacy and sensitivity.

    Nadyne shares practical advice on approaching sensitive research topics, providing control to participants, giving space for the research team, and even using diary studies for a more comprehensive understanding of patient experiences. Additionally, she talks about the intricacies involved when working with healthcare players, from insurance providers to medical staff, and how their differing incentives shape patient care.

    Episode Highlights

    • 03:56 - Transitioning from tech to healthcare research
    • 13:56 - Challenges when researching with medical professionals
    • 21:32 - Navigating Sensitive Topics when recruiting patients
    • 28:45 - Planning for legal requirements in user testing
    • 35:24 - Data protection in healthcare research
    • 41:11 - The unique rewards of healthcare research

    About Our Guest
    Nadyne Richmond is a user researcher and experience design leader with a track record spanning two decades. She has worked and led teams at places like IBM, Microsoft, Included Health, and Babylon. She started her career as an engineer, giving her a unique window in the challenges of creating products and services that are excel technically and meet the demands of customers and the business alike.

    Resources From Nadyne

    More Healthcare Research Resources

    30 April 2024, 1:49 pm
  • 49 minutes 10 seconds
    #146 - Building a UX Research Team From Scratch with Julian Della Mattia of the180

    Erin and special co-host Ben Wiedmaier are joined by Julian Della Mattia of the180 for a deep dive into being UX team-of-one. Julian has been the first user researcher at a number of companies and shares his top to-dos, milestones, and things to consider before accepting such a role.

    The episode digs into the ways a solo UXR can start making an impact, but in a strategic, sustainable way. Julian identifies questions to ask stakeholder teams, processes to consider standing up, and the tools to consider investing in from the start. We also discuss the dual hat-wearing of UXR and Ops on smaller teams/teams-of-one. Julian shares how he balances his time between executing on business-critical work and organizing research workflows so that other teams can start connecting with customers.

    Even if you're not a solo UXR or a team-of-one, Julian's experience building bridges between/across departments and his suggestions for aligning user research to core business goals from the start will help you and your team be more impactful.

    Episode Highlights

    • 03:49 - Strategies for success as the first researcher in an organization
    • 12:52 - Strategies for building bridges as a researcher in a new organization
    • 19:16 - Building essential processes for small research teams
    • 27:59 - Comparing research repositories and insights hubs
    • 30:47 - Triangulating insights from different teams
    • 35:11 - Strategies for scaling your research capacity


    About Our Guest
    Julian is a UX Researcher specialized in Research Operations (ReOps), founder of the180 and based in Barcelona, Spain. Whether in-house or working with clients, he repeatedly found myself building Research teams from scratch as the first Researcher in the team. This experience helped him develop a real knack for infrastructure, so he decided to fully specialize myself in ReOps. He likes to talk about this as his switch "from Finder to Builder".

    More Resources for Building UX Research Teams

    16 April 2024, 2:29 pm
  • 39 minutes 42 seconds
    #145 - Kick-Start Creativity Using Desk Research with Victoria Sakal of Wonder

    In this episode, Erin chats with Victoria Sakal, Head of Growth at Wonder, all about desk (or secondary) research—think web searches, checking internal resource libraries (like repositories), or interviewing colleagues. Desk research is a critical step when starting a new project.

    Victoria shares her framework for thinking about the differences between primary and secondary research, suggesting that instead of distinct categories, they exist on a continuum. She argues that primary research is sharper, more impactful, and has better ROI when it's supported by secondary research.

    In addition to sharing best practices for desk research, Victoria walks through research her team conducted on how organizations approach research, offering strategies to maximize your efforts based on specific company growth stages and product demands. The episode closes by exploring how desk research is changing in light of emergent technologies such as large-language models and the benefits of reading widely.

    Episode Highlights

    • 06:39 - Integrating desk research into your research strategy
    • 12:30 - Desk research techniques and best practices
    • 17:41 - Unpacking trends in the kinds of questions asked during desk research
    • 23:31 - How desk research is evolving alongside AI technology
    • 25:14 - The role of curiosity in desk research and innovation
    • 34:20 - How research repositories and agile methods impact desk research


    About Our Guest
    With a passion for turning complex inputs (data, research, behaviors) on customers, market dynamics, and competitors into smart strategies that drive growth, Victoria has spent the last decade helping companies ask better questions to get better data, source more powerful insights, and stay on top of important dynamics that matter. Previously at Morning Consult and Kantar, Victoria now focuses on all things demand gen, product marketing, market research, and growth strategies to deliver more value for Wonder users.

    More Resources on Desk Research

    1 April 2024, 5:43 pm
  • 46 minutes 46 seconds
    #144 - The Craft of Sample Sizes with Lauren Stern of WHOOP

    In this episode, Carol and Erin dive into all things research sample sizes with Lauren Stern. No matter your experience with user research, you'll need to recruit folks, making this an evergreen topic. Lauren has coached both new-to-research and junior UXRs on this critical topic and she shares some of her best advice.

    Lauren shares importance considerations and nuances around different types of studies and even analysis approaches. She also unpacks her approach for international samples, the impact of drop-off rates, and participant compensation strategies.

    Going beyond sample sizes, we conclude with a discussion of how to better engage with stakeholders when advocating sample sizes, making these conversations about "how many to recruit" more informed. She also shares resources to use when making the case to stakeholders.

    Episode Highlights

    • 05:41 - Crafting research goals and parameters: a collaborative journey
    • 13:48 - Flexible research design: navigating sample sizes and methodologies
    • 19:57 - Tailoring sample sizes to research objectives: finding the right fit 
    • 26:30 - Qualitative confidence and stakeholder expectations
    • 34:11 - Diverse methodologies in quantitative research: beyond surveys
    • 43:05 - Departing research wisdom on sample sizes generally

    About Our Guest
    Lauren Stern is a mixed-methods research leader focused on creating the most human-centered technology possible. Over the last ten years her work has explored how perception and social cognition shape our experiences with automated systems from military zones to living rooms. Whether exploring individual experiences in the field or looking at large-scale data collections, she loves the puzzle of study design and coaching new researchers through the process.

    Resources on Sample Sizes

    25 March 2024, 4:06 pm
  • 40 minutes 40 seconds
    #143 - Harnessing AI For Better Insights with George Whitfield of MIT and FindOurView

    Carol and Erin welcome George Whitfield, an expert in applying AI to the analysis of qualitative data. George discusses the intricate challenges of leveraging language models to interpret expansive open-ended data (like interview transcripts), emphasizing the importance of context and not just keyword or topic identification.

    They'll dig into the crucial role of human oversight in AI, what preliminary analysis might look like using AI, how to check and refine the work of an AI assistant without derailing your project delivery date, and recommendations for etiquette regarding the reporting of AI-informed results.

    The episode closes with an exploration of the limits of AI and where user experience researchers can play a larger role in its development. George believes AI can (and should) inspire new directions of research, but not dictate them.

    Episode Highlights

    • 03:48 - Innovating consumer insights using AI
    • 12:21 - Importance of human involvement in AI tools
    • 20:04 - Enhance discussion sections with  AI tools
    • 26:50 - AI-inspired insights provide inspiration, not guidance
    • 34:12 - Interpretation beyond analyzing transcripts
    • 36:46 - Applying engineering rigor to the process of building a business

    About Our Guest
    George Whitfield is an Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the Martin Trust Center for MIT Entrepreneurship, Lecturer at the MIT Sloan School of Management, and CEO at FindOurView. As CEO of his most recent company FindOurView, he launched a Gen AI product to help user researchers synthesize insights faster from high volumes of customer interviews. George holds 4 patents and has 3 degrees from MIT including a Bachelors in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science and a Masters and Ph.D. in Materials Science and Engineering.

    Resources on Qual Data and AI

    18 March 2024, 4:32 pm
  • 47 minutes 44 seconds
    #142 - Quantifying Research Impact with Ruby Pryor of Rex

    In this episode Carol and Erin are joined by Ruby Pryor, founder of Rex, a consulting firm specializing in UX research and strategic design.

    They explore the world of measuring the impact of UX research. with Pryor introducing a four-level impact assessment framework. Ruby shares a four-level assessment framework and the conversation moves to prioritization, making "strategic" decisions, and increasing your research influence.

    This episode also gets into what it means to demonstrate the "business value" of one's work, specifically how researchers can and should quantify their impact in terms that are tangible to the company. Ruby will share ways to score early wins, build momentum, and overcome communication frictions to find shared value.

    Episode Highlights

    • 03:14 - UX researcher impact: insights, optimization, prioritization, strategy
    • 09:14 - Understanding organizational structures and strategy development collaboration
    • 20:22 - Challenge of quantifying impact and strategic level
    • 21:33 - Measuring strategy impact: challenges and indicators
    • 30:04 - Prioritizing investments based on strong market indicators
    • 38:51 - Stakeholders prioritize growth, revenue, and cost reduction

    About Our Guest
    Ruby Pryor is the founder of Rex, a service design and UX research consulting firm. Her previous roles include UX research at Grab, strategic design at Boston Consulting Group and management consulting at Nous Group. She has taught courses on increasing the impact of UX to learners from 5 continents and has spoken about design and UX at conferences in Asia and Europe.

    Resources on UX Research Impact

    4 March 2024, 6:31 pm
  • 41 minutes 10 seconds
    #141 - The Chaos Theory of Event Networking with Bryan Dosono of eBay

    In this episode of Awkward Silences, Carol and Erin dive into the world of conference networking and planning with Bryan Dosono, a staff UX research lead at eBay known for his extensive experience curating and organizing conference programs.

    Bryan share insights on how to prepare for conferences such as using apps to schedule meetings and emphasizing networking over solely focusing on content. He also discusses strategic scheduling to align conference participation with career goals and offers advice on making spontaneous, serendipitous connections.

    The conversation also covers practical tips for adding value during small talk, how to approach and connect with other researchers, and the importance of being open, vulnerable, and willing to face rejection in the pursuit of meaningful interactions. Bryan provides guidance for both newcomers to the UXR field and seasoned professionals: overcoming imposter syndrome and leveraging transferable skills from related fields.

    Episode Highlights

    • 03:58 - Navigating the Unpredictable: Strategies for Introverts at Networking Events.
    • 08:24 - Strategic Networking: Maximizing Opportunities Before and During Conferences.
    • 12:33 - Networking strategies for academic and professional growth.
    • 22:36 - Balancing Attendance: Prioritizing Conferences with Active Roles.
    • 28:03 - Maximizing Remote Networking: Strategies for Engagement in Virtual Conferences.
    • 33:07 - Conference Insights: Making the Most of Your Experience through Pre-Planning.

    About Our Guest
    Bryan Dosono, PhD, is a user experience research leader in the consumer technology space. He applies human-computer interaction research methods with visual storytelling to modernize the design of global marketplaces and online communities. He currently volunteers as a Conference Chair at UXPA International and serves on the User Interviews Research Council.

    Looking for a UX community? Here are 16 to join for networking and development.

    21 February 2024, 11:13 pm
  • 47 minutes
    #140 - Should You Leave Academia? Advice for Researchers with Joe Stubenrauch

    The decision to leave academia can be difficult. Often, it involves giving up a stable career path and a lifetime commitment to a particular field of study. 

    But as Joe Stubenrauch explains, the move also offers researchers the opportunity to pursue new career paths, improve work-life balance and geographic flexibility, and reinvent their lives.

    And he should know: Formerly a professor of history, he walked away from tenure to join a big tech company as a UX Researcher at AWS. In this episode, Joe discusses his decision to walk transition to the private sector and shares thoughtful advice for others considering a similar move.


    Highlights from the episode

    • [04:06] Joe reflects on feeling burnt out, bored, and doubtful in academia 
    • [11:23] What makes you happy? Joe weighs the pros and cons of things like mental health, geographic mobility, and proximity to family and friends.
    • [19:41] Breaking into a new field, experimenting, and talking to people. 
    • [34:47] The importance of having a portfolio that includes compelling stories 
    • [41:35] Tactical advice for job seekers (resumes, LinkedIn profiles, job interview strategies, etc)
    • [44:23] Working in a team environment as a former academic

    About our guest

    Joe Stubenrauch is a former professor of British history at Baylor University, and the author of a prize-winning book published by Oxford University Press. During the height of the pandemic, he walked away from tenure and joined a big tech company in order to redesign his life. Now as a UX Researcher at AWS, Joe has found unexpected similarities between his work as Victorianist and his work in the cloud. He also writes regularly about the transition from academia to industry and is obsessed with how people can reinvent their lives and careers.


    You can follow Joe on LinkedIn.

    30 November 2023, 6:54 pm
  • 43 minutes 56 seconds
    #139 - Content Design and the Power of Simple Language with Erica Jorgensen

    How often do you think about content design? The answer, most likely, is: “not enough”.

    The work of a Content Designer involves fitting the right words in the right places, understanding the nuances of things log in vs. sign in, and knowing the right words to use to engage customers. Content Design is an important part of the user experience—and the ROI is high. Like, “millions of $s saved through content-testing” high.

    Erica Jorgensen is a Staff Content Designer at Chewy.com and the author of Strategic Content Design: Tools and Research Techniques for Better UX. She joined Erin and Carol on the podcast to discuss the ins and outs of content design, the importance of clarity for effective communication, and how to involve your audience in content design.


    Highlights from the episode:

    • 00:02:03: What is content design in the context of UX research?
    • 00:06:48: Gaining clarity by thinking about the words you use frequently 
    • 00:14:00: How Erica used simplified language to get customers to buy more insurance plans
    • 00:26:42: Using cloze testing to ensure general content clarity
    • 00:29:26: The importance of syllables and length 
    • 00:39:46: Resources and guides for better content design
    • 00:42:56: How Microsoft saved $2 million through content testing

      Sources and people mentioned

    About our guest

    Erica Jorgensen is a staff content designer at Chewy.com and the author of Strategic Content Design: Tools and Research Techniques for Better UX, published in April 2023 by Rosenfeld Media. 

    She's a content designer, content strategist, and team leader determined to bring greater respect to the content field. To that end, Erica speaks frequently at conferences including UXDX USA, UX Lisbon, Microsoft Design Week, the Web Directions Summit, and Button: The Content Design Conference, and on podcasts like The Content Strategy Podcast with Kristina Halvorson and Content Insights podcast with Larry Swanson. In addition to working in content roles for companies of all sizes, she has taught at the University of Washington and Seattle’s School of Visual Concepts. 

    Erica earned her B.A. from the University of Connecticut and M.A. from the University of Missouri’s School of Journalism. In her free time, you can find her exploring Washington State’s wineries or hiking with her husband and rescue dog, Rufus.

    8 November 2023, 10:32 pm
  • 43 minutes 26 seconds
    #138 - Designers as Change Agents with Maria Giudice
    “I realized that design is about helping people make sense of the world. And I looked at the world differently then… treating everything like a design problem that's solvable [...] [Design leaders today] don't use the power that we have to engage people, to activate people, to help them believe in something bigger than themselves.”

    Maria Guidice, author of Changemakers: How Leaders Can Design Change in an Insanely Complex World, joins Erin May and Carol Guest in this episode of Awkward Silences. Together, they examine the qualities of effective change agents and discuss how designers, researchers, and passionate folks can hone and apply these qualities to drive change within their organization. 

    Throughout the episode, Maria draws on her experience leading global teams at Facebook and Autodesk and a decade of research into the interconnectedness of leadership, design, and change to offer practical advice on how to approach change through a designer mindset.

    In this episode, Maria, Erin and Carol cover:

    • What is a “changemaker”?
    • The qualities of effective leaders and change agents.
    • How designers can employ their skills to drive change at scale.
    • Treating design as a mindset.
    • Building support and working with people who share a creative and open mindset.
    • Why we need to believe in progress and continuous improvement.

    Highlights

    00:04:23 – Design is about helping people make sense of the world

    00:09:34 – Maria’s research into the connection between leadership, design, and change

    00:13:50 – The importance of understanding people’s resistance to change

    00:16:28 – What is a changemaker?

    00:18:04 – Design as a noun, a verb, a mindset that can lead change at scale 

    00:24:30 – Qualities of effective change agents

    00:33:19 – Why Maria hates the term “change management”

    00:36:12 – Embracing failure as a learning opportunity

    00:39:46 – The importance of passion, purpose, and a belief in continuous progress


    About our guest

    For three decades, creative teams and business leaders have sought the provocative vision and mentorship of Maria Giudice, GEW DEECE. After founding the pioneering experience design firm Hot Studio and leading global teams at Facebook and Autodesk, Maria’s mission today is to build the next generation of creative leaders. 

    Through one-on-one coaching, group coaching, and team-building workshops, Maria unlocks the potential hidden in executives and the people they lead. A popular speaker at design and business conferences, Maria is also the author of four design books, including Rise of the DEO: Leadership by Design, and most recently Changemakers: How Leaders Can Design Change in an Insanely Complex World.

    18 October 2023, 1:26 pm
  • 41 minutes 23 seconds
    #137 - Practical Strategies to Foster Customer Obsession with Prayag Narula, CEO and Co-Founder of Marvin

    What company isn’t “customer obsessed”? Well, a lot, as it turns out. 

    That’s not for lack of caring—but building a customer-centric culture is easier said than done. And how you do this depends on whether you’re starting from square one or trying to change a company’s culture from the inside.

    According to Prayag Narula, CEO and Co-Founder of Marvin, changing a culture towards customer centricity requires starting from the bottom-up. Building something new? Leaders should be obsessing over customer feedback, actively placing research and customer insights front and center from the very beginning. 

    In this episode of Awkward Silences, Prayag sits down with Erin and Carol to discuss his strategies for building a customer-centric product culture at Marvin. Tune in to learn more about what it means to obsess over customers, doing research versus using research, how customer centricity is put into practice at Marvin, and more. 👇


    Highlights: 

    [00:00:31] The origins of Marvin

    [00:04:40] Building a culture around customer centricity

    [00:08:35] Why leaders should obsess over a customer centric culture

    [00:13:59] How the rest of the team can keep customers front and center

    [00:18:04] Balancing doing research and using research

    [00:21:46] “Capital R” versus “lower case r” researchers 

    [00:28:21] Getting researchers more involved in strategic conversations

    [00:30:35] Practicing customer centricity at Marvin

    [00:39:36] The Marvin repository

    [00:46:53] Prayag’s parting words of wisdom: talk to your market


    Sources mentioned in the episode:

    About Our Guest

    Prayag Narula is an entrepreneur and trained researcher with a passion for building technology he always wished for when conducting user research. He is currently the Co-Founder and CEO of Marvin, a qualitative data analysis platform and research repository for user-centric teams across the globe. He is further the Co-Founder and a Board Member for LeadGenius, a demand generation automation company automating and accelerating outbound sales and marketing for mid-marketing and enterprise companies across the world. 

    27 September 2023, 2:22 pm
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