Behind the Seen

Mark Bauer and Branden Polk

Behind the Seen is a semi-monthly conversation dedicated to uncovering our biases and how to navigate them in a constructive way.

  • 43 minutes 48 seconds
    S3 Ep. 6 Victim or Villain with Karith Foster

    Continuing with our #CheckTheBox theme for this season, special guest Karith Foster joins us to discuss two boxes we tend to put people in when it comes to the race conversation: Victim or villain. In reality, those labels aren't so cut and dried, especially when you introduce intersectional identities into the mix. 

    Karith Foster is a comic turned motivational speaker, TV & radio personality, actress, author, blogger and entrepreneur—and her new book, 'You Can Be Perfect or You Can Be Happy,' teaches readers basic concepts for embracing life's messiness. In this episode, we discuss how we can apply these same concepts to the race conversation.

    Episode Description

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    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    31 August 2020, 10:00 pm
  • 58 minutes 20 seconds
    S3 Ep. 5: Conscious Masculinity

    What are barriers to men living conscious, compassionate, connected lives in their homes and communities? How does this apply to the race conversation?

    Guest: Addison Brasil, VP of branding for tethr, an online peer-to-peer support community for men.

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    6 July 2020, 2:58 pm
  • 28 minutes 18 seconds
    S3 Ep. 4: Policing Behavior and the Preservation of Power

    In this episode, we discuss policing behavior (behavior of police) and the act of policing other people's behavior in our day-to-day lives. Recent civil unrest around the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police has shined light on inconsistencies in what we view as acceptable policing. More often, policing of any kind is a preservation of power and is an attempt to invalidate those who are being policed.

    #CheckTheBox Call to Action: Who are you policing in your life in attempt to preserve your power over them? Who is policing you in order to preserve their power over you? If you can identify that behavior is occurring, it will set you up to break free of that oppression to live a more fulfilled, balanced, healthy life.

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    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    9 June 2020, 2:14 am
  • 49 minutes 55 seconds
    S3 Ep. 3: The Racism of the White Moderate

    In this episode we discuss the killing of Ahmaud Arbery. A lot of white people are being confronted for the first time with the injustice of racism and unsure how to process it. Others are perplexed why race has to be dragged into the equation at all. In this conversation, Branden turns the questions on Mark to discuss how the unexamined identities of white moderates continue to perpetuate racism. The second part of the discussions turns to how to transform guilt into change.

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    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    16 May 2020, 12:52 am
  • 43 minutes 54 seconds
    S3 Ep. 2: Is Love Really Blind?

    Before the Tiger King, the quarantine binge was the reality show Love is Blind, which puts strangers in neighboring cubes and allows them to get to know one another without the benefit of seeing each other. Then, they fall in love. Or at least that's the idea. But is love REALLY blind? How do subtle ways we talk even give away things about how we were raised? And if love isn't blind, should it be? That's what we're talking about in today's episode. 

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    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    29 April 2020, 1:02 pm
  • 52 minutes 51 seconds
    S3 Ep. 1: Racial Justice in a Post-COVID World

    Has coronavirus altered how you view racial disparity? Has it amplified it? Who are the populations most affected by coronavirus disruptions? Disruptions of this magnitude always allow for a shift in the landscape. When all of this lifts, how can we rebuild more equitably?

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    Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen

    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    14 April 2020, 12:32 am
  • 51 minutes 8 seconds
    S2 Ep. 6: What is Fear Trying to Tell You?

    This is actually a replay of one of our favorite episodes from last season. I've experienced a lot of fear the last few weeks around quitting my job and moving to Los Angeles for the summer, and in conversations with friends there seems to be a widespread season of fear that a lot of folks are walking in. So, in this episode we go a little deeper into understanding what fear is trying to tell us and how we can practice getting over that fear.  Continually pushing the boundaries of what you can overcome unlocks a whole new perspective on life when you aren’t inhibited by fear.

    Notes from Show

    - Feelings chart by Chip Dodd

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    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    5 June 2019, 5:24 pm
  • 48 minutes 45 seconds
    S2 Ep. 5: Forgiveness without Repentance, a Review of the Emanuel Documentary

    In this episode, we review the Emanuel documentary, which covers the history of the black church in Charleston leading up to the church shooting in 2015 by Dylan Roof that killed nine congregants, including the pastor. The movie's primary emphasis is on the expressions of forgiveness by family members toward Dylan Roof, less than 48 hours after he committed that heinous act.

    Co-hosts Mark Bauer and Branden Polk explore the idea of forgiveness and who it is for, and why forgiveness doesn't need to be preceded by repentance for it to be impactful, right and meaningful. 

    We also dovetail into discussions about the contrast between how white offenders are handled by police during arrests, versus how we commonly see black subjects taken into custody. A recent police shooting of Pamela Turner in Baytown, Texas that was caught on camera illustrates this point. 

    We also reflect on some points that were raised in a post-screening discussion that Branden and Mark facilitated following a viewing of the film, during which Branden asked attendees for three things black people wished white people would understand about the racial justice conversation, and three things white people wished black people would understand about their perspective on the racial justice conversation.

    At the end of this episode, we hope you feel compelled to check out the Emanuel documentary in theaters during a limited run June 17 and 19. Let us know your thoughts by following us on social below! 

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    Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen

    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    22 May 2019, 4:28 pm
  • 55 minutes 14 seconds
    S2 Ep. 4: Understanding Colorism

    In the last episode on racism in dating, Todrick Hall briefly touched on something that a lot of listeners picked up on: Colorism—the idea that whiteness has defined some skin tones and features in people of color as more beautiful and acceptable in society. This twisted idea has resulted in a sort of prejudice and resentment from some blacks toward other blacks. In this episode, we discuss the origins of colorism, why it's an especially nasty form of prejudice, and how to differentiate colorism from legitimate criticisms of anti-black self-hate.

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    Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen

    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    7 May 2019, 2:05 pm
  • 1 hour 1 minute
    S2 Ep. 3: Racism in Dating (w/ special guest Todrick Hall)

    In a freewheeling conversation about dating, singer/songwriter/producer Todrick Hall joins Behind the Seen to discuss our racial “preferences,” how we acquire those preferences in the first place, and why we are OK completely disregarding a different group of people as potential partners based on such inconsequential factors as race.

    References

    For more on the breakdown of numbers by Nathalie Reshard looking for a straight black man with multiple degrees, who is a high performing athlete and who has never been to prison, visit her blog post here

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    Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer

    Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk

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    Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen

    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    23 April 2019, 2:10 pm
  • 53 minutes 20 seconds
    S2 Ep. 2: Code Violations | #BeSeen

    In today's episode, we're talking about code violations. We have our own personal codes, informed by religious texts or some other source, that we violate every day. And we have societal codes, laws and regulations that are in place to help guide, control and keep order in society. 

    We discuss how easy it is to slip into a cycle of guilt and shame when we violate our codes, and how difficult it is to break that cycle. It takes a certain amount of privilege to be able to carve out the space necessary to reflect on the behaviors that are leading to code violations, as well as to access the tools necessary to then change that behavior.

    On a macro scale, we see the same kinds of problems at play regarding mass incarceration, which disproportionately affects people of color and the economically disadvantaged. One popular retort is: If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Not only have we shown how this isn't consistently applied to our own lives, we discuss how it's not always as simple as just not doing something. Our experiences don't exist in a vacuum, and many complex factors contribute to crime: poverty, generational traumas and other motivations. 

    Ultimately, the goal of this episode is simply to get you thinking about the topic of criminal justice and mass incarceration in such a way that makes you curious to learn more. For more about the racial disparity in mass incarceration, please visit the Sentencing Project, which has a wealth of information and data on the topic. 

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    Behind the Seen: @behindtheseenpod
    Mark Bauer: @BarkMauer
    Branden Polk: @BrandenPolk

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    Wonymedia.com/behindtheseen

    *The views expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and do not reflect that of their employer

    9 April 2019, 2:06 pm
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