Rise and Play Podcast

Sophie Vo

At Rise and Play, we give voice to leaders, entrepreneurs, educators and influencers of the game industry who are here to make a change. We love games and want to make this industry last through healthy team cultures, awareness and education. Each episode will tackle a wide range of important topics such as leadership, team culture, self-management, conscious leadership, work-life balance, game education, ethics in business, equality, diversity and inclusion... brought by the different perspectives of our guests.

  • 40 minutes 12 seconds
    121. Why I Founded A Company At The 'Worst' Time Of The Industry

    Is that a crazy idea to start a new game company in 2024?!

    We are resuming the podcast in May, tackling the multiple challenges of building a new company/studio and surviving in 2024.


    We kick off this new season, with the journey of Sophie Vo, founder of Rise and Play and first-time CEO of a game company.


    Sophie shares her process of becoming a CEO, the challenges of fundraising and pitching, applying the learnings from 100+ entrepreneurs she interviewed in the podcast, building a company like a studio/product, and the importance of digging into co-founders' team dynamics and trust.


    Co-host Claire Rozain interviews Sophie, exploring topics from the necessity of curiosity and learning in leadership roles to practical advice for new founders.

    The discussion covers the strategies used by Sophie to navigate her company through difficult times, turning constraints into creative opportunities and not being afraid of making the hard call in times of business crisis.


    04:04 Sophie Vo's Leap into Entrepreneurship: Building a Game Company in 2024, why???

    09:46 Facing Skepticism and Embracing the Challenge

    16:23 The Importance of Continuous Learning and Curiosity

    19:50 From Solopreneur to Co-Founder: The Decision to Collaborate

    20:09 The Solopreneur Journey and Team Dynamics

    21:35 Building an Aligned Founding Team and the Role of a CEO

    24:47 Effective Leadership and Role Clarity With Mission Cards

    28:02 Building Trust and Embracing Challenges

    33:47 Adapting to Market Constraints and Embracing Innovation

    36:13 Final Thoughts and Advice for Entrepreneurs in 2024


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    30 April 2024, 6:00 am
  • 6 minutes 3 seconds
    120. News Announcement For Rise And Play!

    In this special episode, Sophie Vo shares a heartfelt thank you to the community for their loyalty and support over the past three years, and reveals a major personal update: the start of her new game company, Kylan. This new venture will lead to a short break in podcast content, but we assure listeners that this is just a brief hiatus!

    • We are onboarding new co-hosts so if you're interested in giving it a try, contact us at [email protected]
    • Workshop and 1-1 coaching inquiry at [email protected]
    • Next networking event in Berlin on April 25th: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/rise-and-play-x-starberry-x-metacore-networking-brunch-tickets-861332878827?aff=oddtdtcreator


    We're back in May! In the meantime, enjoy the evergreen top content from the previous episodes:

    91. Founder Jens Begemann's⁠ Retrospective on Running Wooga For Over A Decade

    90. Solving the Team Culture Map Puzzle  with Jen Donahoe

    77. Master Emotionally Charged Conversation

    59. How to Plan and Nurture Your Career in Games with Miska Katkoff and Sophie Vo

    52. Running your 1:1 in a modern workplace (remote) - with Marko Kecman

    43. Coaching episode: Tamara Rose Morales, On Examining Your Life Script 

    32. What You Did Not Know About UX- with Devon Wyland, Head of UX at Solsten


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    9 April 2024, 6:00 am
  • 38 minutes 32 seconds
    119. Applying Agile Development To AAA Game Design - with Jamie Smith

    In this episode, we interview Jamie Smith, a principal game designer at People Can Fly, about the challenges and insights into design leadership for AAA development. While agile development with quick feedback loop is common for mobile games, it is not for AAA! So how do you combine the mindset of agility and traditionally long and siloed AAA game development?

    Jamie Smith, with over 13 years of experience working on AAA titles like Tom Clancy's The Division, FIFA, and Call of Duty, discusses his career journey, the transition from production roles to a leadership position, and the importance of team autonomy, cross-discipline collaboration, and decision-making structures in delivering successful game projects. The conversation sheds light on the balance between creative direction and the multitude of factors influencing game design, including technical limitations, publisher expectations, and market comparison, aiming to provide valuable insights for improving management skills and understanding the complexity and legacy of AAA game development.

    More about Jamie's work and open AAA design learnings: https://youtu.be/q250xvbn9hg?si=kOEbYofqAGMJzVeH

    02:42 The Evolution of a Game Designer, from IC to Leader

    12:01 Leading Teams and Defining Quality in AAA Game Design

    17:00 Navigating Conflicts and Priorities in Game Development

    23:35 Adopting a Holistic Approach to Game Design

    29:57 Reflecting on 13 Years in AAA Game Development


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    2 April 2024, 6:00 am
  • 38 minutes 34 seconds
    118. Growing Beatstar Into A $125M hit - with Game Lead Charmie Kim

    In this episode, we deconstruct the success of Beatstar, from the lens of design and company culture at Space Ape Games, with our special guest Charmie Kim, Game lead at Space Ape Games.

    We explore the evolution of game development from first-mover advantages beginnings to the complex, research-driven approach necessary in today's competitive market.

    Through Charmie's journey from working on Samurai Siege Live Ops to leading the highly successful music game Beatstar, we uncover insights on how to innovate within various game genres, and the importance of research, marketing, and adapting to the market. Beatstar has grossed over $125m and has attracted over 60m players since its launch in September 2021.

    Key takeaways: the significance of direct player engagement, the strategic necessity of market research before genre selection, and the pivotal role of diverse team adaptability in meeting contemporary gaming demands.

    01:35 Charmie Kim: A Trailblazer in Game Design and Leadership

    06:00 Tracing Charmie Kim's Journey from Fashion to Game Design

    15:47 The Strategic Shift at Space Ape Games: Exploring New Genres

    20:32 Innovating in the Music Game Genre with BeatStar

    32:06 The Importance of Market Research in Modern Game Development

    37:13 Concluding Thoughts and the Future of Game Development


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    26 March 2024, 7:00 am
  • 42 minutes 7 seconds
    117. Inside Paladin Studios: A 20-Year CEO Journey With Derk De Geus

    We interview Derk De Geus, co-CEO and Co-Founder of Paladin Studio to explore leadership lessons learned over two decades in the gaming industry. The episode covers the genesis of Paladin Studio, its transition from a service company to a game development studio, and how it navigated challenges and growth without external investment. Bootstrapping successfully a studio is a rare story we hear of these days!

    Derk shares insights on the importance of self-awareness, empathetic communication, and aligning one's core being with their professional roles. The discussion delves into the pitfalls of rapid scaling, the benefits of retreats for personal and leadership development, and the significance of creating a supportive and creative company culture.


    01:37 The Genesis of Paladin Studio: A 20-Year Journey

    03:50 Navigating the Early Days and the Shift to Entertainment Games

    09:20 The Evolution of Leadership and Business Strategy

    16:14 The CEO's Dilemma: Balancing Creativity and Business and Finding Balance

    23:20 Embracing Creativity Beyond Work

    24:11 The Synergy of Creative and Business Minds

    26:13 The CEO Role Reimagined: Co-CEO for Creative Freedom

    26:25 Navigating Operational and Strategic Challenges

    28:33 The Transformative Power of Retreats

    35:26 Leadership as a Journey of Self-Discovery

    39:59 Cultivating a Culture of Shared Values


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    19 March 2024, 5:00 am
  • 40 minutes 19 seconds
    116. Inside Interior Night: Building Innovative Stories For Mature Audiences

    Different teams make different games, for different audiences,

    In this episode, we interview the duo Caroline Marchal and Charu Desodt, respectively CEO and Studio Director at Interior Night, to share their journey building an innovative AAA studio from scratch.

    Interior Night is an independent game studio formed by Quantic Dream and Sony veterans based in London, dedicated to creating innovative interactive stories for a broad and mature audience. They are the crreators of the original interactive drama As Dusk Falls , a new take on narrative games which received unanimous reviews (9/10 IGN, 9/10 GameSpot, 9/10 Steam).

    We cover the evolution of the AAA industry, the growth of representation of women in gaming, the journey of starting a new AAA studio and the significance of having a clear vision and being persistent with it. Caroline had a strong vision of a new kind of AAA narrative games she wanted to make for a mature audience (mothers, non gamers, spouses), and supported by a highly experienced diverse team, she materialized that vision successfully with their first title As Dusk Falls.

    01:16 Interior Night Studio: A Female-Led Game Development Studio

    02:21 The Journey of the Studio Founders: From Game Designers to Studio Leaders

    06:26 The Birth of Interior Night: A Leap of Faith into Entrepreneurship

    09:44 The Making of 'As Dust Falls': A Unique Interactive Narrative Experience

    18:54 The Impact of 'As Dust Falls' on Players: A New Approach to Gaming

    22:01 The Journey of Funding and Building a Game Studio

    30:38 Reflections on Leadership and the Future of the Gaming Industry


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    12 March 2024, 9:15 am
  • 40 minutes 45 seconds
    115. Laura Carter CEO's Diary: Leading A Purpose-Driven Gaming Company in 2024

    In this episode, we follow the journey of Laura Carter, CEO and co-founder of TreesPlease Games, with the mission to bring a positive impact on the planet, through games. After a stellar career at companies such as Natural Motion, Square Enix, The Walt Disney Company and PlayStation Studios, Laura decided in 2019 to take a leap and bring her passion for the planet and business together and found TreesPlease Games.

    TreesPlease Games raised $8M in seed funding in 2023: https://mobilegamer.biz/treesplease-games-gets-8m-in-seed-funding-reveals-debut-game-longleaf-valley/

    Laura shares about the process of navigating the challenges of starting a company as an initial solo founder, raising funds, assembling a team, making a game that aligns with the company's environmental mission, and managing the operational demands of achieving the company's goals. The team at Trees Please is proud to have planted nearly a million trees through their gaming activity and first casual puzzle title Longleaf Valley. Despite various challenges, TreesPlease aims to continue creating environmentally-themed casual puzzle games, with plans to launch more in 2024.

    Learn more about TreesPlease reforestation project:

    https://www.treespleasegames.com/real-tree-planting

    https://www.edenprojects.org/


    01:03 Laura's Journey into Entrepreneurship

    03:34 The Birth of TreesPlease Games

    05:23 Challenges and Triumphs of Starting a Company

    06:57 The Importance of a Supportive Network

    07:32 Balancing Motherhood and Entrepreneurship

    10:01 Building the Founding Team

    10:26 Securing Initial Funding

    12:23 The Journey of Building Longleaf Valley

    17:35 The Impact of Longleaf Valley, planting 1,000,000 trees

    36:51 The Future of TreesPlease Studio


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    5 March 2024, 7:04 am
  • 41 minutes 54 seconds
    114. UP, DOWN, UP: Why Some Game Companies Succeed, While Others Fail

    The podcast features Kim Nordström, a gaming industry veteran from Paradox Interactive and King, and the author of 'Up, Down, Up', a book about the life cycle phases of gaming startups.

    We delve into Kim's analytical approach exploring startup successes and failures, identifying key patterns across companies. Over two years of research, Kim interviewed over a hundred gaming founders, CEOs, and leaders. Relevant topics ranging from the necessity of creative tension and disciplined decision-making in leadership, the four critical phases of development for startup companies as compared to a human life cycle, and the importance of knowing one's purpose in their role as founders or CEOs, and at the different growth and decline phases. Many practical and philosophical insights from the book are highlighted.

    02:00 The Author's Gaming and Entrepreneurial Journey

    05:28 The Process of Writing the Book

    06:31 The Value of the Book

    07:04 The Process of Interviewing Companies

    08:43 The Structure and Purpose of the Book

    14:48 The Importance of Discipline in Success

    25:47 The Role of a CEO in a Gaming Company

    29:47 Solutions and Challenges in Leadership

    30:40 The Role of a CEO and the Importance of Support

    33:40 The Struggles of Leadership and the Need for Self-Care

    36:04 The Dynamics of Co-Founders and Team Composition

    38:32 The Importance of Conflict and Challenge in Team Building

    51:12 The Role of a CEO in Different Phases of a Company

    54:48 Understanding Your Purpose As a CEO or Founder


    Get your copy on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/UP-DOWN-companies-succeed-others-ebook/dp/B0CR4D417V


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    27 February 2024, 7:00 am
  • 41 minutes 6 seconds
    113. The Emerging Trend Of Co-CEO In Games - with Veronica Rojas

    In 2023, there were 11.89% female CEOs and 8.95% co-founders (reported from 7 different funds) from approximately 400 companies and 1000 founders. It is progress but there is still a long way to go before we see more women accessing positions of CEOs, especially when they are not founding their own company.

    In this episode, we interview Veronica Rojas, who climbed the ranks in her career from product marketing at Gameloft to Head of Studio, ultimately becoming the co-CEO at Uken Games. How does someone become a co-CEO/CEO? What does this role imply, and what should one consider before taking on those responsibilities?

    The role of co-CEO has emerged more and more in the gaming industry as we recognize that the demands of a CEO role might become overwhelming as the company scales.


    04:01 Veronica's Journey into the Gaming Industry

    07:34 The Challenges of Starting a Gaming Startup With No Funding and Experience

    15:32 Transitioning from Startup to Corporate

    24:03 The Role of Product Marketing in Gaming

    25:46 Joining UKEN and Rising to Co-CEO

    37:05 The Challenges of Being a Co-CEO


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    20 February 2024, 7:00 am
  • 41 minutes 29 seconds
    112. Diversity: A Strategic Investment Approach at 1Up Ventures

    As the gaming industry is maturing, we become aware of the importance of diversity in audience, teams, and leadership. But what about the investment side?

    In this episode, we interview Kelly Wallick, the former founder of Indie Megabooth and now a partner at 1Up Ventures, founded in 2019 by Ed Fries (Former Microsoft Vice President). Their mission is to build a diverse and inclusive community of the most talented, experienced, and creative independent game developers in the world. Their portfolio includes noteworthy emerging studios such as Lightforge Games, Superbloom, and Gardens.

    We discuss the importance of diversity in the gaming industry, how a team that reflects its audience increases the potential for success, and the role of founders' community building in nurturing success.

    Wallick shares her gaming journey leading her to the investment side, the vision for 1Up Venture, and the unique community-centered approach they bring to venture capitalism.


    02:19 Kelly's Journey into the Gaming Industry

    04:37 The Birth and Growth of Indie Megabooth

    06:42 Transitioning to 1Up Venture

    10:30 Investment Decision-Making at 1Up

    20:45 Betting on Diverse Teams

    21:27 Investment Structure and Strategy

    22:14 Building a Founders Community within the Gaming Industry

    27:16 Challenges and Successes in Community Building from a Venture Side

    39:31 How to connect with 1Up


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    13 February 2024, 7:00 am
  • 49 minutes 44 seconds
    111. Success In Business Will Not Bring You More Happiness - with Miska Katkoff

    "What if I build my own company? What if I have more money? Then, I will be happier!"

    In this episode, Sophie interviews Miska Katkoff, founder of Deconstructor of Fun and former CEO of Savage Games, to reflect on the journey post-acquisition from PlayStation Studios in 2022.

    We discuss the definition of success and the common pressures individuals face in attaining it. Miska shares his personal experience navigating his sense of achievement, dealing with external validation, and the value he places on self-reliance. He discusses the importance of understanding personal values and setting personal goals instead of adopting those prescribed by others. He also encourages listeners to seek therapy as a tool for understanding oneself and promoting mental health. We also touch on the role money plays in their definitions of success.


    Link to the MindJournal mentioned in the episode.


    00:47 Discussing the Concept of Success

    01:38 External Success vs Internal Success

    06:24 The Role of Comparison in Success

    07:47 The Importance of Setting Personal Goals

    11:05 The Role of Money in Defining Success

    21:18 The Impact of Material Possessions on Happiness

    24:27 The Importance of Therapy in Stressful Times

    24:55 The Role of Therapy in Personal Growth

    25:54 The Impact of Stress on Personal Relationships

    27:13 The Struggles of Startup Life

    28:17 The Power of Normalizing Therapy

    28:38 Overcoming Prejudices and Resistance to Therapy

    29:31 The Importance of Mental Training

    30:56 The Journey of Self-Discovery through Therapy

    31:24 The Role of Coaching in Personal Development

    34:48 The Impact of Upbringing on Success Drive

    37:34 The Importance of Self-Realization and Serving Others

    44:18 The Power of Journaling and Self-Reflection

    45:33 The Persistence of Internal Issues Despite Success


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    6 February 2024, 7:00 am
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