Tim Rowberry, who went from being a pace maker for the Nike Oregon Project to the coach of the unstoppable Sifan Hassan, joins us at 66:11 to discuss his coaching story and Sifan Hassan's amazing Olympic triple that culminated in Olympic marathon gold.

Prior to that we discuss whether Grant Fisher has a ton of talent (link), debate whose career you'd rather have his or Donavan Braziers, and then ponder who would win at 600m Cole Hocker or Fred Kersley (link here).

Grand Slam Track will launch in Jamaica in April. We break that down and discuss the mental side of running (book here) before Rowbery joins us. Show notes below with links.

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• Show notes: 00:00 Tim Rowberry audio clip
• 00:57 Start and banter
• 08:30 Is Grant Fisher talented? (Thread)
• 16:00 Who is more talented Donovan Brazier or Fisher?
• 21:05 Whose season would you rather have Fisher or Kejelcha?
• 23:02 Whose career would you rather have Fisher or Brazier?
• 29:10 Should Grant move to the marathon or can he win 10k gold?
• 33:32 Mental side of running (book)
• 41:04 Who wins Copple Hocker or Fred Kerley at 600? (Link)
• 48:49 Grand Slam Track meet #1 in Jamaica (Thread)
• 01:02:47 Twitter views and Athlos
• 01:06:11 Tim Rowberry guest
• 01:13:59 Alberto gets suspended, becoming full-time coach
• 01:22:57 2024 Olympics
• 01:31:27 Typical week of training
• 01:39:20 2024 season and early struggles
• 01:46:24 Expectations for Olympics
• 01:51:40 How can you do what she did clean?
• 01:59:04 Globetrotters
• 02:04:22 Other athletes he coaches

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Abdi Nageeye and Sheila Chepkirui got the upsets wins at the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon and we break them down.

Conner Mantz led the American men and Sara Vaughn the American women as Jenny Simpson called it a career.

The World Marathon Majors are expanding. Is it too much? World Athletics announced its finalists for athlete of the year and we're not happy.

Ed Eyestone's great weekend got off to a great start with BYU upsetting Oklahoma State in college XC.

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• Show notes:
• 00:00 Post NYC 2024
• 02:23 Election Day
• 03:14 Jonathan Galt for President?
• 07:05 New York City Marathon Recap
• 09:26 Abdi Nageeye's Surprise Victory
• 18:26 Women's Race Analysis
• 20:57 Doping Concerns
• 27:28 American Runners' Performances
• 29:07 Sara Vaughn 1st American
• 34:30 American men: Conner Mantz American record in NY
• 36:31 Great NY field?
• 41:45 World Marathon Majors Expansion Debate
• 51:39 Valencia Marathon's Potential
• 53:59 CJ Albertson's Remarkable Year
• 01:00:17 Zap Endurance's Ryan Ford
• 01:01:37 1st Year with 10 Sub 2:10s by Americans
• 01:05:21 NCAA XC: Great weekend for Ed Eyestone, Mantz, Young & BYU beats OSU
• 01:05:50 BYU's Big 12 Championship Upset
• 01:11:33 Oregon women under Shalane Flanagan impress
• 01:12:53 Graham Blanks
• 01:17:31 World Athlete of the Year Controversies
• 01:25:38 Let's Run Presidential Poll

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NCAA XC star Rocky Hansen joins us at 75:03 to discuss his breakout freshman year, training, NILs and a lot more.

Yomif Kejelcha hammered from the front once again and this time was rewarded with the world record in the half marathon as he ran 57:30 in Valencia to break Jacob Kiplimo's record by 1 second.

Kejelcha won near universal praise on the LetsRun forums, but are supershoes diminishing the world records? Kejelcha also holds the indoor mile world record.

Agnes Ngetich impressed on the women's side running 63:04 and Olympic triathlete Morgan Pearson was the first American. Should he pull a Gwen Jorgensen and try and make the US Olympic team in the marathon? Show notes below.

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• Show notes: 00:00 Spanish audio
• 01:11 Start
• 07:48 Yomif Kejelcha's gets his due and breaks half marathon world record
• 13:55 Post of Week
• 19:25 Edward Cheserek 61:28
• 24:28 Hilary Bor 61:20, Triathlete Morgan Perason 1st American
• 28:30 Should Morgan pull a Gwen Jorgensen?
• 29:59 Grand Slam Track of Triathlon
• 32:57 Have supershoes diminished world records?
• 34:58 Agnes Ngetich 63:04 after 29:18 1st 10k
• 39:47 Ngetich's return to racing
• 42:22 How can US women medal again?
• 49:36 US distance runners don't suck
• 50:30 SEC could cap XC rosters at 10 and track at 35
• 01:03:16 Ed Eyestone likes having a big roster
• 01:07:01 New York City Marathon Preview- Tamirat Tola the new world #1?
• 01:15:03 Interview with Rockie Hansen
• 01:25:36 Goal for nationals
• 01:28:16 Freshman year
• 01:33:34 Training philosophy
• 01:44:59 Track
• 01:49:14 Going to the Olympic Trials with On
• 01:51:17 Why Wake?
• 01:54:37 NIL with On

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Leo and Lex Young join us at 78:19 to tell us about the transition to collegiate running, how Stanford is going so far, talk a little NIL and a lot more.

Prior to that we break discuss the latest in the running world including Rojo being called by Kenyan parliament for an apology and Parker Vably getting paid (more than Cole Hocker?!) by New Balance, before discussing who should be the athlete of the year (Grant Holloway, Rai Benjamin, Jakob Ingebrigtsen or Noah Lyles on the men's side, Beatrice Chebet, Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone, or Faith Kipyegon on the women's side).

We discuss the prenats NCAA cross country results before talking to the Young twins at 78:19.

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• Show notes: 00:00 Kenya audio
• 00:39 Start
• 04:37 Rojo gets in trouble with Kenyan parliament
• 09:20 Rojo, Paul Tergat, and President Bush
• 15:22 Parker Valby's New Balance contract *Mark Coogan on Valby
• 17:42 Cole Hocker comparisons
• 28:19 Valby's training
• 31:14 Parker Wolfe?
• 38:25 World Athletics Athlete of year contenders: Sydney, Beatrice or Faith?
• 47:27 Men's athlete of Year: Jakob, Grant, Rai, Noah or Emmanuel Wanyonyi?
• 57:34 Anna Cockrell and her dad
• 01:03:51 Praise for Y squared
• 01:06:43 Prenats

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• Links: Full Kenyan remarks on Rojo

• *Mark Coogan on Valby

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Ruth Chepngetich ran 2:09:56 to smash the marathon world record at the Bank of American Chicago Marathon. In the process she became the first woman to go sub 2:10. Is this the greatest distance performance ever?

Former American record holder and Olympic bronze medallist Deena Kastor joins us for an hour to break down Chicago and Ruth's incredible run and everything Chicago where John Korir got the win on the men's side (update from the pod: the first Ascis WMM win since Yuki Kawauchi in 2018 in Boston). CJ Albertson and Susanna Sullivan led the Americans.

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• Show notes: 00:00 Banter
• 00:39 Start
• 02:11 Deena Kastor's initial thoughts
• 06:04 Segue on American Runners' Performance
• 08:20 Kebede and Chepngetich both after WR
• 14:34 Rough patch at 35k
• 19:26 Skepticism and Doping Concerns
• 28:51 Deena on Paula & how record breakers change the mindset for everyone *Renato Canova post
• 36:05 Barry Bonds
• 39:49Was this the Greatest Performance in Women's Distance Running?
• 40:55 Kudos to Carey Pinkowski
• 43:16 Kelvin Kiptum
• 45:33 Chepngetich's run was amazing
• 48:44 Paris for John Korir from Deena
• 58:40 Rojo's announcing plan
• 01:00:42 American women disappointed
• 01:03:44 Not Susanna Sullivan
• 01:04:57 CJ Albertson wants to be the top American at all the US WMM
• 01:09:37 01:12:06 Rojo's marathon PB?
• 01:17:33 Centro
• 01:17:57 Mile splits not always accurate
• 01:22:32 Greatest women's record?
• 01:24:51 Were Rojo's doping questions inappropriate?
• 01:29:16 NCAA XC - BYU puts 7 ahead of Oregon's #1
• 01:35:22 Wrap-Up and Announcements
• Links: everything Chicago Marathon here
• *Renato Canova post

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"Mr 800" Justin Rinaldi, the guy who has a job at a bank, the coach of Peter Bol, Will Sumner and resurgent Josh Hoey, is our guest @ 60:12. Rinaldi talks about going from coaching 1 athlete to having an incredible stable of 800 athletes, when we will see a sub 1:40, and the Peter Bol EPO case.

Plus Conner Mantz ran 10 miles faster than any other American and it is Chicago Marathon week, and we give a preview of the race starting at 35:57.

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• Show notes: 00:00 Justin Rinaldi audio clip
• Music
• Rojo & Wejo reminisce on pacing world records in Chicago
• Conner Mantz 45:13 fastest 10 miler by an American ever
• New American marathon star/ blue collar runner of week - Matthew Ritchman (thread)
• Keely Hodgkinson profile
• USAs to Eugene
• 35:57 Chicago weatherWomen's race headlines in Chicago -Ruth Chepngetich and Joyciline Jepkosgei and Saina, Bates, Hall, D'Amato
• 43:21 American record chance?
• Men's side RIP Kelvin Kiptum
• Debut of Daniel Ebenyo
• Zach Panning and CJ Albertson
• 01:00:12 Mr 800 Justin Rinaldi (guest) *threads here
• His background and current coaching setup
• Josh Hoey's resurgence
• The basics of his training program
• Will Sumner update and racing Will's dad at Pre Classic
• Wondering and reaching out to Donavan Brazier
• What has happened to the 800 this year?
• Are we about to see a sub 1:40 800?
• Peter Bol EPO case
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Former World Junior XC champ "Milky M" (Milkesa Mengesha) took down the Berlin Marathon field as Tigist Ketema ran her 2nd 2:16 and continued the 800 to marathon trend.

The NCAA action heated up with Brian Musau and Oklahoma State impressing. Could Villanova's Sadie Sigfstead be the next NCAA star? The Young brothers impressed as well.

We break it all down with some insight on the DL going to Flotrack and parting thoughts on Athlos 1.0.

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• Show notes: 00:00 Intro and Pacemaker t-shirts
• 01:01 Start
• 02:02 Cole Hocker Day and Honoring Athletes
• 05:56 NBC should promote track more and someone dropped the ball with the DL
• 12:02 Athlos Meet Final Thoughts + Ichan Stadium
• 24:17 Sydney, Sha'Carri & Appearance Fees
• 29:34 Berlin Marathon Highlights *Article
• 40:40 The Ethiopian Name Game
• 44:01 Tigist and path from 800 to marathon
• 48:03 Ingebrigtsen Netflix show & Josh Kerr trash talk
• 58:08 College XC Weekend Highlights *article
• 01:00:32 Big 12 is amazing and so is Ok State
• 01:02:37 New Villanova star?
• 01:09:23 8:22 steepler eligible for Iowa State
• 01:10:35 The Eligibility Question
• 01:15:42 Wrapping Up and Future Plans

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The all-female Athlos meet backed by reddit's Alexis Ohanian is on Thursday in NYC and we break down what it means for the sport and its chances for success.

Then we preview the NCAA cross country season. Parker Wolfe and Katelyn Tuohy are gone but Parker Wolfe and Graham Blanks are back as are the Oklahoma State men. Can the NAU women get it done for the first time? What about Mike Smiths' legacy?

Solomon Kipchoge is a 59 minute half marathoner for Texas Tech and a new comer to the NCAA ranks, so is Pamela Kogei, the younger sister of former marathon world record holder Brigid. How will they fare?

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• Show notes: 00:00 Athlos and NCAA XC Preview
• 02:58 Rojo's diet
• 07:21 Parker Wolfe podcast plug *link to podcast
• 09:27 Athlos meet Thursday in NYC with $100k in prize money per event preview discussion
• 18:39 Star power off the track
• 21:23 Does Track have a supply problem? *article
• 32:08 Races at Athlos
• 39:47 Men's XC Preview *Preview 1 & 2
• 40:29 Graham Blanks and Parker Wolfe
• 45:44 New contenders including 59 half marathoner Solomon Kipchoge
• 52:09 Men's team battle led by Oklahoma State
• 55:52 Sean Carlson's comments on importing older athletes *link
• 01:01:14 Age cap?
• 01:02:54 Bob Liking
• 01:06:05 Women's XC preview - Tuohy and Valby gone
• 01:12:31 Individual battle - Doris Lemngole or Brigid Kosei's sister Pamela?
• 01:16:54 NIL raising the bar
• 01:28:20 Supporters Club only audio

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The 2024 Diamond League season came to an end. Jakob got the win in the 1500, but we're more interested in breaking down his half marathon debut. Sydney McLaughlin made a rare Diamond League appearance. And we delve into the crazy fast times on the track in 2024 (article here).

NCAA superstar Parker Wolfe joins us at 75:01 to talk his amazing 2024 season, NIL deals, missing the Olympics and of course NCAA cross and 2025.

• Show notes: 00:00 BetterRunningshoes.com
• 00:41 Start
• 01:12 Jakob Ingebrigtsen's Half Marathon Debut
• 03:44 Jakob Ingebrigtsen's Half and LRC's ridiculous predictions
• 04:54 Audio clip
• 08:51 Debate on Jakob's Range and Future Potential
• 21:41 Copenhagen Half Marathon Finish Sawe and Kiplimo
• 25:30 The crazy explosion of fast times on the track *article
• 34:58 Diamond League Final and World Record Attempts
• 40:28 800m World Record Attempts and Predictions
• 42:49 Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone's Diamond League Performance
• 46:11 Comparing Diamond League to WNBA
• 49:50 Grand Slam Track League and Athlete Commitments
• 1:05:46 Coyotes in San Francisco and T-Shirt Designs
• 1:10:01 Edward Cheserek 59:32 half
• 1:13:18 Cole Hocker's Olympic Gold and Its Implications *thread
• 1:15:01 Parker Wolfe Guest
• 1:15:35 Parker Wolf's Olympic Trials Experience
• 1:18:01 Reflecting on the Season and Trials
• 1:22:29 Parker Wolf's Running Journey
• 1:24:44 Recruitment and Choosing UNC
• 1:27:00 Training Transition from High School to College
• 1:34:25 NIL Deals and Future Plans *Rojo shirt he likes
• 1:39:13 Choosing the Right College and Coach
• 1:40:23 Balancing College and Professional Running
• 1:42:48 Training at Altitude and Summer Preparation
• 1:46:15 Reflecting on Race Strategies and Future Goals
• 1:49:31 Comparing Training Methods and Looking Ahead
• 1:55:36 Closing Thoughts and Final Reflections

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Yared Nuguse took down Jakob and Cole in Zurich but can he do it this week in the Diamond League final? Sydney will be at the final but running in essentially time trial races.

Updated: Grant Holloway released a statement after we recorded on why he won't be there here:.

Josh Kerr won't be at the Final but he obliterated the 5th avenue mile record as Karissa Schweizer got the women's record.

Plus project 99, an an explanation on why the 800 is so fast.

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• 00:00 Intro
• 01:15 Get "I Am Pacemaker shirts" here
• 02:33 Robert's Suspension and Apology
• 9:04 Yared Nuguse Wins Olympic Showdown in Zurich
• 20:18 Sage Hurta Klecker PB
• 25:23 Athing Mu's Engaged
• 30:50 Fifth Avenue Mile Analysis
• 42:26 100m WR attempt by Atrpo
• 47:37 Project 99: The Quest for Sub-1:40
• 48:27 The Evolution of 800m Racing
• 56:00 Hocker's comments on not training 3 days after Olympics, Sydney's Time Trial Races at Brussels
• 01:09:06 Noah Lyles at US Open
• 01:11:57 Diamond League Final: Expectations and Critiques
• 01:20:14 Cooper Teare's Recent Performances

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Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone won't be running the Diamond League final (as she hasn't run any Diamond League's all year), Shannon Rowbury may get an Olympic bronze, and the Cole Hocker, Jakob Ingebrigtsen, Josh Kerr, Yared Nuguse Olympic rematch is here.

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• 00:00 Weltklasse
• 00:22 Podcast Introduction and T-Shirt Promotion
• 01:17 Start
• 04:46 Shannon Rowbury to get 2012 Olympic bronze?!
• 13:45 Sydney McLaughlin's Diamond League Eligibility Drama
• 24:49 Hocker, Nuguse, Kerr doing Grand Slam Track
• 34:37 Wanyonyi vs Kessler
• 41:55 Introducing Project 99: The Sub-1:40 800m Attempt
• 42:56 San Francisco Life
• 46:01 Adopting an Official Division 3 Team
• 51:38 NCAA Rules and Non-Revenue Sports
• 53:35 Zurich Diamond League Preview - 1st sub 14 women's 5k?
• 54:19 Beatrice Chebet greatest distane season ever?
• 01:00:17 Dreams become reality at UTMB
• 01:04:23 Warholm vs. Duplantis at 100
• 01:08:00 Jon Gault responsible for match-up?
• 01:11:09 Jakob vs Josh vs Hocker vs Nuguse in Zurich
• 01:18:04 Concluding Remarks and Supporters Club

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