The show about Fish Fishing and Eating Fish
The challenges of Fall fishing
Tonight’s show run down
Fishing Reports 15m
Hatcher Bros Erin (@femboyfishing) and Michael (@srien_string_and_stream) are catching smallies and trout and the occasional walleye in the Ozarks
Steve NcAngler says trout season is over in The White Mountains but one can still dredge up some nice browns in the catch and release section of the Androscoggin. He’s catching bass these days on Sneaky Pete’s (topwater bullet head popper with a flared skirt and trailing sili strands) and for subsurface he likes Dragon Tails (a tail material called sili worm behind a built up head, originally cut down “Squirmy” toys)
The Driftless-some streams closed for the Fall spawn but plenty of creeks are open to catch and release and the tourists have gone home. Fishing is solitary and they’re smashing the terrestrials, some drys and streamers.
https://news.orvis.com/fly-fishing/seasons-of-the-driftless-area
Joe Henry Fishing at Lake of the Woods is on fire!!! 6m
FITN 10min
John Gierach
passed from a heart attack October 3rd 2024
Apache Trout Success:
https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secretary-haaland-announces-removal-apache-trout-arizonas-state-fish-endangered
Maine Bans Painted Heads:
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/life/animals/wildlife/new-law-expands-maines-lead-fishing-tackle-ban-protect-loons/97-61c87bb3-687c-4610-839a-2ce5eb8fb7fa
Laura Williams Maine Audubon Society 30 min
Show pt. 2 Halloween
Scary Fish: 15-20 min
Zombie Salmon-Yes they are catchable, some fight some do not, the scariest thing i have ever felt sorry for short of Frankenstien. I find the grip and grin photos with them disquieting.
Peter Herman Adventures-
https://youtu.be/C5AjppfOntc?si=5NzzCCLnY6v4j5vm
Candiru-sent in by our own Jeff Danaldson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candiru_(fish)
This is the one that legend says swims up one’s urine stream right into the urethra. It has never been confirmed. In 1997 one was removed from a man’s urethra but the circumstances were “suspect” which is a story just made for Fish Nerds.
Stonefish-this one scared the heck out of me when I was a little kid. The most venomous fish of all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanceia
https://www.surfertoday.com/environment/how-to-treat-a-stonefish-sting
other entries:
The Kraken
Angler Fish
Goblin Shark
My FAVORITE from Steve NcAngler is “the fish you hooked but never saw.” It could have been anything!
Listener spooky stories and other fisher freak outs: 15-20min
62% of respondents have had a weird or spooky incident on the water.
25% said it started scary but turned out to be something ordinary
CH and the turtle
My Wife and I were trolling for Kokanee Salmon. It was just before dark and we had the only boat on the water. It's a small reservoir in Montana. The water was like glass it was so calm. As we got out to the middle the water swirled next to the boat like a whale turned next to us. The swirl was as big or bigger than our boat. It was extremely creepy so we headed to the dock! Still not sure what the swirl was caused by but maybe an under water spring... It was in 50' of water though.
I'm the only person at this lake. You know the sound of a rod wishing through the air on a hard cast? Yeah that sounds happened in the wooded area behind me just once like a cast. Only similar sounds I've ever heard is bigger birds wings. I looked no birds anywhere no turkeys roosting in trees for the night. The sun was setting at this point. I didn't see anything but it was real close. My only other thought cause a bunch of neighboring property dogs were all fired up a few minutes earlier and they had settled down just before I heard it. Never heard bobcat hiss in person but at that point since they are in that area is all I could think and why the dogs were fired up. So I hurried the hell out of there. I'm not tangling with big kitty if that's what it was.
Well I grew up in Salem Ma and used to fish a cemetery pond so I’d go with yes
Phantom Casters From Rick Webster
I was fishing the first beach at Sandy Hook in Jersey one late September. When I got to the parking lot and not another car in sight. I set up, soaking clams on two rods before sun-up. As the pre-dawn light began to show over the horizon, a THICK bank of fog rolled in. Slack tide and zero wind…very peaceful but not expecting anything spectacular.
Suddenly, about 500 seagulls that had been resting on the roof of the bath house lifted into the air and began to dive nosily into the surf. The fog was so thick I couldn’t see them, but I could hear them, not 20 yards off the beach. Figuring a blitz of snappers, I sent a 3-ounce Yo-Zuri popper into the fog and immediately came tight on what turned out to be a 12lb Albie. As I was fighting this fish, the fog began to lift and I could see I was surrounded by 25 to 30 other surfcasters. I had no clue how they suddenly appeared as this stretch of beach is wide open, so I would have seen them before the fog came in. No one spoke and the only sounds were screaming gulls and drags as we all enjoyed a rare mix of blues and albies for the next 30 minutes in a classic fall blitz.
As the action died down, the fog rolled in again and I appeared to be all alone again. Since I was tired and a little spooked by the mornings events, I packed up my gear and headed back to the parking lot. Just like when I arrived, mine was the only car there. I have no idea where the other fishermen came from or how they disappeared and to this day, I’m not entirely convinced they were actually there.
https://onthewater.com/spooky-fishing-stories
Aliens prefer fishers:
Pascagoula UFO Abduction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction
See Entry 12:
https://skepticalinquirer.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2019/03/SI-MJ-12.pdf
Charles Hickson 42 Calvin Parker 19 Went fishing on the Pascagoula River Mississippi October 11th 1973
On the evening of October 11, 1973, 42-year old Charles Hickson and 19-year-old Calvin Parker went fishing on the west bank of the Pascagoula River. As dusk fell, they heard a whirring/whizzing sound and saw flashes of blue light on the water. They looked up to see an oval-shaped object approximately 30-40 feet across and 8-10 feet high. Three creatures came gliding out of the craft and took them aboard. Completely paralyzed but still conscious, the two men were subjected to a medical exam by a giant robotic eye. They were then returned to shore, and the craft sped away into the night sky.
Both changed their stories over time. Parker said he passed out but later claimed to remember certain details. Hickson kept altering his story. The original polygraph on Hickson was given by an untrained operator as part of a commercial deal and there is speculation that it never really took place.
Drinking was believed to be part of the incident.
Hypnagogic dream
paroxysmal sleep-related disorder incubus syndrome
both fall in the category of parasominias
Still one of the best UFO stories out there. There is a commemorative plaque marking the spot on the Pascagoula River where the incident took place
Should have been fishing
Thank Yous:
Wally Pleasant for our show theme, Diana’s Bath Salts for our Fish in the News theme, Dan Henig for his nice little tune Savannah Sunshine which we used on our chat with Laura Williams, Laren Duski for her instrumental Rollin’ which we used to on the Lake of the Woods fishing report, Joe Henry for bringing us that report, Steve NcAngler and the Hatcher Brothers for their fishing reports, Laura Williams for being a lead free fishing ally, Chris Snograss, Alan Dumitrescue and John Murphy for their spooky fishing tales, Rick Webster for his legion of spirit surf casters story but especially you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff.
Fish Nerds is the creation of Diabolical Dave Kellum and Clay “Lamprey Mouth” Groves, Clay is also our Chief Executive “Flesh Eating” Fish Nerd, our producer and co-host is John “Jabberwocky” King, our demon horde of associate producers are Jeff “Devil Fly” Dannaldson, Todd “Black Cat” Corayer, Tim “Terror Hook” Bete and the cute friendly Wendy type witch flying above the wrack is our own Doc Martin.
Code of the Fish Nerds
Looks like we made a podcast
Intro:
10 min
John’s travels: Bluegill quest and first MA trout
Non fishers taking a polite interest in fishing…it gets complicated fast
computer woe
Jeff on his Alaskan Adventure 30 min
FITN: 15-20 min
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/octopuses-punching-fish
Bye Bye Lil’ Gremlin…
https://thefishingwire.com/live-auction-via-webcast-on-bidspotter-2/
JACKASS:
Brittany Howard 25-30 min
Vamos a Pescar 15min
The Fish Nerds podcast is the creation of Dave Kellam and Clay Groves, Clay Groves is our Chief Executive Fish Nerd and show host, John Crappie Hippie King is our producer and host, our associate producers are Jeff Danaldson the fish nerd librarian, Todd Corayer the fish wrap writer you can find his column at fish wrap writer.com, Tim Tackle Box Bete and of course the shiny gem in this stream bed of mossy rocks our Chief Science Correspondent Doc Martin.
We would like to thank Wally Pleasant for our show theme, Diana’s Bath Salts for our Fish in the news theme, Reed Mathis and the band Bird Creek for our story music, Tim Tackle Box Bete for sending in most of our news stories for this episode, Jeff Danaldson for letting us in on his big adventure to Alaskan salmon country, the crappie stopper Kim Burnett, Austin Smith, Doc Martin, Phil Taunton and all the fun, kind folks with the Emporia chapter of i vamos a pescar fishing education organization, all those who study fish, manage fisheries, stand up for ethical fishing behavior and conservation as well as those who enforce the laws and regulations that protect our irreplaceable resources and especially you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff. Tight lines and valentines to you all for listening to my first solo effort.
Well what do you know, it looks like I just made a podcast
Bristol Bay
Quick throw back to Fishing Austin and Central Texas-Aaron’s spots are his favorite wades. A boat can change the game (as he mentions). John Geirach in his 1994 book Dances with Trout describes a good paddle in his little canoe where he has a fine time catching bass and such back in the days before the surge. Both the rivers he diddles around on are in Aaron’s book (Nueces and Guadalupe)
The Show-We are going to monthly. We cannot worry about what other podcasts do or what the pundits and experts say is necessary to have a good podcast. That’s fine for people who want to follow formulas that make money and content is dictated by what sells. We could do an a-hole POV podcast like that guy joe rogaine or yet another crime podcast but we are hardcore indie. And we are about fish fishing and eating fish. We do not follow any rules and never have. We do not have a narrow niche, we do not have a regular format (we do have a loose framework currently) and try as we might we do not have consistent release dates scheduled precisely. We are punk rock and while our production limitations are not the result of chemicals and ego they are the result of raising families, founding businesses, doing research and dividing our creativity and energy as best we can over any number of projects, in other words doing our thing. And Fish Nerds is one of our things. And so it survives and we keep casting pod and rod! Clay and his ever evolving merry band of helpers have broadcast this pod since 2011! So please enjoy the show, we have made all the segments a bit longer than usual just to tide y’all over. We may get some bonus material done, we made not. One thing that never has changed is we got the best dang listeners in the podcasting universe and we sure appreciate you stopping by to get your ears filled up with fish stuff. Now let’s get after it!
Jeff-does a quick show summary
Two Old Farts Talk Fishing-TTBB and CH on Ultralight Fishing 40m
https://www.facebook.com/groups/6398998346868778
FITN: 15-20m
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/nx-s1-5051801/octopus-farming-ban-us-congress
Jeff: this is yet another instance of how pharmaceuticals (illicit or otherwise) are ending up in aquatic food chains.
Fish in the Pants Two Stories:
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/shoplifters-nabbed-publix-red-snapper-hidden-pants
Jeff you know what that sound means! and yes it is a Florida man story
JackAss-https://globalnews.ca/news/3983184/caught-on-camera-florida-man-stuffs-stolen-fish-down-his-pants/
If you name your daughter Crystal she probably gonna be a wild thing. It’s a pretty name but dang if i have known a bunch of women named Crystal all of which could be talked into a bad idea pretty easy. At least Ms. Dixon had the sense to dump “Cruz” and ge the hell out of Dodge Jeff: Way back in my misspent youth as an aquarist I used to keep and breed Ram cichlids (Mikrogeophagus ramirezi). They are very easy to breed in captivity, maybe Cruz was just gathering stock for a side hustle as a cichlid breeder!
Cute Story-
https://www.bigcountrynewsconnection.com/news/national/china-children-use-mesh-food-covers-to-catch-fish-on-flooded-streets-in-zhoukou/video_b078d4df-8032-5350-8473-bf12d71f64a3.html
FEMBOY!!! 30-40m
Intro in with a brief description of the channel Jeff or John https://www.youtube.com/@femboy_fishing
Culinary Corner 8-10m
Fish Taco Talk
The Fish Nerds Podcast was created by Clay Groves and Dave Kellum, Chief Executive Fish Nerd is Clay Groves, our Producer is John Crappie Hippie King, our associate producers are Todd Corayer The Fish Wrap Writer (be sure and catch his column at Fish Wrap Writer.com), Tim Tackle Box Bete, Jeff The Fish Nerd Librarian Danaldson and our fair flower in this field of weeds our Chief Science Correspondent the one and only Doc Martin.
Thank Yous:
Wally Pleasant show theme, Dianah’s Bath Salts FITN theme. The 126’s for the intro and exit music for FEMBOY, Mysterious Baitcaster Cylinder for our CC music, Tim “Tackle Box” Bete (pron like Pete), Lucy the Super Computer,Erin and Michael, Tracy Nicole Lewis, Glasswater Angling Lead Free Fishing, check it out at glasswaterangling.com but especially you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff.
Code
Spawn early and often (John)
Never trust a free lunch with strings attached (Jeff)
And swim against the current every chance you get (John)
Jeff-Looks like we just made a podcast
John-Woohoo
Out
Maine Audubon is back and Laura wants to come on the show. It is so hot I want to go gar fishing.
Fly Fishing Austin and Central Texas by Aaron Reed Imbrifex Review
NEWS
https://www.ksnt.com/kansasoutdoors/biologists-find-rare-ocean-born-fish-species-swimming-in-the-kansas-river/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shark-bites-teen-lifeguard-training-camp-florida-volusia-county/
A couple of things from Luke Chamings 1
Shark attacks-global climate change
Yellas-Austailian white bass/crappie/smallmouth aka Golden Perch
ROCKY’S CHOICE GAME SHOW to pick the Father’s Day contest winners
Thank Yous: Wally Pleasant, Dianah’s Bath Salts, Tim “Tackle Box” Bete, Aaron Reed and Imbrifex Books, Kathy King, Rocky Joe the Wonder Dog, All those who participated in the Father’s Day contest and especially you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff.
Crappie Hippie talks to Clay about picking spots to take people and how he avoids wearing them out AND 4th of July plans.
John falls into The Catfish Bait Marital Peril Gambit
John brings us his first Field Report from Fishing Clinic
FISH IN THE NEWS
https://nypost.com/2024/06/16/lifestyle/eating-small-fish-whole-can-help-you-live-longer-new-study/
2024 Outdoor Participation Trends Report 15-20m
OIA_2024_Participation_Trends_Exec_Summary.pdf
Trout Burgers 5
FATHER’S DAY ENTRIES
ANGIE SCOTT
KNITTING DADDY
BRIAN MCGILVRA
JOE HENRY
Thank Yous
Wally Pleasant, Dianah’s Bath Salts, Mysterious Baitcaster Cylinder, The Mini Vandals for Shine Your Little Light, Scott Nahodil, Tim “Tackle Box” Bete, Susan Schmidt and all the kids and parents from the Vamos a Pescar Fishing clinic, our own families and especially you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff.
BIG SHOW TODAY
Don't forget to enter our Father's Day raffle, just call 607-378-FISH and yoo're in!
FISH IN THE NEWS
Sobering Report on Migratory Fish:
https://worldfishmigrationfoundation.com/living-planet-index-2020/
Rare Ocean Sunfish Found on Oregon Beach:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/science/biologists-find-rare-fish-kansas-river/#:~:text=Biologists%20with%20the%20Kansas%20Department,known%20as%20an%20American%20eel.
The Elver Smugglers
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/05/18/officials-seize-around-500000-worth-of-elvers-from-toronto-pearson-airport/
Rosie Interviews Mr. Andy, kids book author Andrew Wiener https://www.amazon.com/Down-River-Family-Fishing-Story/dp/141972293X
Make sure to mention the upcoming auction for Reeling in Serenity and the Rosie and Daddy Sunday, September 1st
https://reelinginserenity.org/
CULINARY CORNER with Joe Henry and Crappie Hippie
FATHERS’ DAY CONTEST-end in a story about fishing with your Dad or if that is not where it is at then talk about a father figure or Dad’s talk about fishing with your kids. We will pick a winner of a Glasswater Tee-Shirt and some lures, weights and such 50 bucks total, second prize is 20 worth of merch and third prize is ten bucks worth. And I will send out small prizes to everyone who enters. We are going to run the contest starting now through June and start playing responses as soon as we start getting them. We will pick the winners in July. How to: Hit the mic on the website or call 607-378-FISH 607-378-3474 or record it on your phone or other gear and email it to clay at or crappie hippie at crappiehippie @glasswaterangling.com
Doc’s Field Report from Florida Shark Tagging Training w Dr. David Shiffman 1
FITN:
England Needs the EPA!
Latest on Spinning Fish Mass Mortality in Florida sent in by Luke Chammings-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwMumpWctTQ
Not-so-Gold-Goldfish-
EPIC FISHING JACK ASS NEWS:
Macho IDIOT-https://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-body-slam-orca-new-zealand/ Tim
CHEATERS-
A MORON never thinks it through-https://www.wired2fish.com/news/cheater-caught-altering-fish-at-sealy-big-bass-splash Tim
Smoking is bad for your health but it can help catch losers-https://www.wired2fish.com/news/angler-caught-cheating-in-illinois-bass-tournament me
Clay’s Interview 2 Alden Wicker book “To Dye For-how toxic fashion is making us Sick and how to fight back,”
Fish Wrap has a new article out:
https://fishwrapwriter.com/2024/05/27/tommorows-fish-need-help-today/
hanks to Wally Pleasant, Dianah’s Bath Salts, Doc Martin, Tim “Tackle Box” Bete, Luke Chammings,
This week on the show John and Clay share recent fishing adventures and chat about Work and bluegils and frogging frogging.
We have Pond Talk-some algae insights from TOPL The Oklahoma Pond Lady Amie Robison
Fish in the News
Happy Sea Lions-
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/04/1249133148/sea-lions-pier-39-san-francisco-bay
Shrinking Fish-
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/02/240228115404.htm
Crappie Stopper Kim Burnet is with us!
Local Legends ep. 1-24-2019 https://fishnerds.libsyn.com/shark-off-stinky-baits-and-crappie-stopper-jigs
Website-
https://www.crappiestopperjigs.com/
CRAPIE HIPPIE is almost caught up at Glasswater and order turn around has returned to normal 1-5 days. Crappie Duellers both regular and Big Bite are on sale for $3.82 in May https://glasswaterangling.com/
The white bass run was almost on existent-bummer-we tried the dam at a local reservoir Melvern because the river flow was so low, total windburn, zero fish. but the bluegills are moving to the bedding areas and starting to make nests the beat goes on! The bass were on fire at Linda’s Lake
Audio diary of folly beach
Fish In the News
1:
Meg Carney Outdoor Minimalist 10 part series “Forever Chemicals” PFAs (this is info for April)
#1 Chemistry Podcast for two weeks
Top 20 science podcasts in the US
Homepage feature on Apple podcasts
Number 23 and climbing on Apple Science Podcasts
https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/forever-chemicals
2:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47732553.amp
3:
4:
https://people.com/magnet-fisher-found-key-evidence-9-years-after-couple-allegedly-lured-deaths-craigslist-8638439
5:
https://lakeofthewoodsmn.com/sturgeon-managed-federally-like-wolves/
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/northland-outdoors/future-of-lake-sturgeon-management-hangs-in-the-balance-as-feds-consider-endangered-species-act-listing
one needs to sign up but it is free
Joe Henry interview
https://lakeofthewoodsmn.com/
Culinary corner Blu Jays crab Rangoon and whiting fish cakes
Thank you Wally, Diana’s Bath Salts, the Groves Girls: Zoe, Blu-J and Kristen, outdoor writer Joe Henry, Tim “Tackle Box” Bete for suggesting so many awesome FITN stories and getting Joe Henry for us, Meg Carney of the Outdoor Minimalist Podcast but most of all you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff.
Big Show as always in this episode Tim Reviews some fishing products, we Bring you the Fish in the News including a discussion of fishing during the eclipse
news links https://www.gameandfishmag.com/editorial/solar-eclipse-2024-hunting-fishing/494567
https://apnews.com/article/coral-restoration-biodegradable-straws-ae23b903da2f91becd489d40e8cd9e17
https://www.sourcegreen.co/plastics/pha-biobased-polymer-packaging/
https://www.geo.tv/latest/538717-strange-looking-fish-stuns-woman-in-oregon
https://marinespecies.wildlife.ca.gov/monkeyface-prickleback/false/
We chat with Rosie about new flies
Tim is with Creek Life and Doc Martin has a song about Dace
This week we talk about packing for fishing trips, Tim Bete takes us to the Cincinnati Fishing Expo, We bring you Fish in the News, Todd is here with the Culinary Corner and we learn how to smoke bluefish, AND Jeff tells us cool stuff about tying flies with artificial Rabbit Fur! Take a listen!
New Listener-FBUntapped Flyfishing-eat the invasives PA (Savage River Trophy Mile in Maryland, keep the rainbow trout)
Marine Biologist Answers Fish Questions From Twitter | Tech Support | WIRED (first question is on Finding Nemo LOL) Kory Evans is part of a group of scientists on WIRED that answer fish questions
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/28/style/fish-doorbell-visdeurbel-netherlands.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLpcjEPCAdo
https://fishwrapwriter.com/2024/03/31/smoked-bluefish-fish-wrap-style/
Jeff Faux Rabbit Fur Furled Fox Tail flies 10m
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