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• (26:16) - eBay Settles
• (31:36) - Joe Weisenthal, co-host of Bloomberg’s *Odd Lots* podcast, discusses social media addiction, online discourse, and the escalating AI race. He examines open-source models, massive infrastructure spending, monopoly risks, and why AI may ultimately deliver meaningful benefits despite economic and social anxieties.
• (01:08:22) - Jameson Detwiler discusses his background as a mobility entrepreneur and his role as co-founder and CEO of CHIP, an electric low-speed utility vehicle startup. He explains CHIP’s customizable design, safety features, affordability, and plan to introduce remote-controlled parking before transitioning to full autonomy.
• (01:40:10) - Stanley Tang, co-founder and chief product officer of DoorDash, discusses the launch of DoorDash Air, the company’s in-house drone delivery program. He explains how advances in AI, hardware, and operational infrastructure are enabling autonomous deliveries, particularly in suburban areas, as part of DoorDash’s broader multimodal delivery network.
• (01:53:37) - Amjad Masad discusses Replit’s latest AI-powered design tools, open-model integrations, enterprise growth, and emerging opportunities in game development, robotics, and industrial design. The Replit founder and CEO also describes a future beyond prompting, where AI agents automate entire workflows, and encourages young people to view AI as an empowering tool for creating businesses and new opportunities.
• (02:10:18) - Adam Cohen discusses co-founding Weave, an AI prompt-routing company that helps engineering teams reduce costs by selecting the most efficient model for each task. He highlights Weave’s $13.5 million fundraising round, enterprise focus, potential savings of up to 80%, and plans to expand its San Francisco-based team.

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This is our full interview with Tae Kim.

We discussed why the AI trade is being misunderstood, why Kimi and better open-weight models could increase compute demand instead of reducing it, Meta's AI spending, NVIDIA's open-weight strategy, the race toward RSI, why data center fears are overblown, AMD's expanding AI market forecast, the future of agentic AI, NVIDIA's CUDA moat, and much more.

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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after.

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• (01:17) - Big Companies Are Hiring Again
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• (20:19) - NVIDIA $50B Tenant
• (23:33) - The Three Anthropic Proposals
• (35:00) - Tae Kim discusses negative sentiment around AI and semiconductor stocks, arguing that sensationalized headlines obscure strong underlying demand for compute, memory, and data-center infrastructure. He remains bullish on Nvidia and the broader AI trade, predicting that agentic AI, recursive self-improvement, and growing enterprise adoption will drive substantial investment and revenue growth.
• (01:06:32) - Kansas Town Splits Over Nuclear Reactor
• (01:10:58) - Ben Zweig, a labor economist and founder of workforce data company Revelio Labs, discusses how AI is reshaping hiring, employment, and workplace tasks. He explains that AI adoption generally correlates with company growth, while creative freelancing and task-based work face greater disruption, and AI-generated job applications are making it harder for employers to identify qualified candidates.
• (01:29:22) - Aakash Thumaty, founder and CEO of Takeoff, discusses the company’s rapid growth from near-zero to almost eight figures in revenue and its acquisition by Sierra. He explains Takeoff’s autonomous, revenue-generating AI agents, outcome-based pricing model, deep customer integrations, and how its technology is evolving into Sierra’s new Horizon product.
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• (00:26) - Open Source vs. Closed Source
• (38:51) - Mega-Startup School
• (45:02) - Luke Knight & Ronan Chambers discuss building ETN, the European Technology Network, and raising $1.6 million at a $9 million post-money valuation. They outline ETN’s new studio, live-show model, and ambitions to expand into events, recruitment, investing, and other media verticals while highlighting the fun and challenges of producing a daily podcast.
• (01:00:15) - Gary Vaynerchuk is an entrepreneur, investor, and creator of VeeFriends. Gary Vaynerchuk discusses the rise of independent creators, emerging sports leagues, collectible culture, and the opportunities created by AI, emphasizing his ability to anticipate consumer trends and his ambition to build VeeFriends into a major entertainment franchise.
• (01:32:40) - Jonathan Jacobi discusses emerging from stealth with a 26-person AI robotics startup, backed by a $71 million seed round. He explains its AI-powered robotic experiences, software-first foundation models, hardware-agnostic approach, and early commercial opportunities in logistics, entertainment, and healthcare.
• (01:42:48) - Dean Meyer discusses America’s growing dependence on Chinese open-source AI models, which may benefit from distillation of proprietary U.S. systems. The Sequoia Capital investor highlights the need for a legally supported American open-model ecosystem while warning of dependency, security, and potential backdoor risks.
• (01:53:43) - Brent Franson discusses Death Clock, the AI-powered longevity company he founded and leads, which predicts users’ life expectancy and creates personalized health plans. He explains its provocative branding, free nationwide blood testing, emphasis on essential biomarkers, and vision of using AI to make personalized healthcare more accessible while cautioning against overtesting and risky health experimentation.
• (02:06:06) - Matej Cernosek discusses Andrenum, a defense technology company building scalable sonar hardware and software for undersea surveillance. He highlights its $18 million Series A, rapid product development, successful naval deployments, and integration of low-cost buoys, machine learning, and command-and-control systems to detect submarines and other underwater vehicles.
• (02:16:23) - Justin Boitano, NVIDIA’s vice president of enterprise AI, discusses the Open Source AI Alliance and how open models, evaluations, and cybersecurity tools can strengthen collective defense. He argues that open and proprietary models complement each other, enabling enterprises to improve security, reduce costs, customize AI, and foster innovation through transparent testing and collaboration.

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• (03:31) - Oliver Cameron, co-founder and CEO of Odyssey, discusses the development of foundational world models—AI systems capable of understanding physics, causality, and human behavior—to enhance various industries, including robotics, gaming, and autonomous vehicles. He highlights the limitations of current AI systems, which are often narrowly trained, and advocates for more generalized models that can be fine-tuned for specific tasks. Cameron also emphasizes the importance of diverse data sources in training these models to ensure robustness and adaptability across different applications.
• (21:09) - Mohammad Norouzi, CEO and co-founder of Ideogram, discusses the company's mission to enhance creativity through generative AI, focusing on design and marketing applications. He highlights the challenges of achieving consistency in AI-generated images, particularly for brand marketing and product design, and emphasizes the importance of data sovereignty for enterprises, noting that Ideogram's compact, open-weight models can be hosted on-premises to address these concerns. Norouzi also mentions Ideogram's collaboration with AMD to optimize their models for AMD's hardware, tailoring model architectures to balance price, performance, and latency.
• (31:42) - Anjney Midha is the founder of AMP PBC, an AI infrastructure startup, and a former general partner at Andreessen Horowitz. In the transcript, he discusses the importance of "output maxing" in AI development, emphasizing the need for efficient utilization of computational resources to maintain a competitive edge. He highlights that only 15% of data center capacity in the U.S. is utilized, calling this underutilization a national security concern, and advocates for smarter, more efficient use of existing infrastructure to stay at the forefront of AI advancements.
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• (01:27:52) - Lisa Su, born in Taiwan and raised in the U.S., is the chair and CEO of AMD, renowned for revitalizing the company since 2014. In the conversation, she highlights the rapid evolution of AI, emphasizing the need for AMD to accelerate its technology roadmaps to meet market demands. Su also underscores AMD's commitment to building great products through collaboration and open ecosystems, reflecting the company's culture of partnership and innovation.

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This is our full interview with Travis Kalanick.

We discuss his new $1.7 billion funding round, why he's betting on industrial AI instead of consumer AI, how autonomous mining can increase productivity by 30 to 40%, why he believes AI will make food dramatically cheaper, what he looks for when hiring executives, lessons from scaling Uber, the future of robotics, AI regulation, and why he commutes to work on a jet ski.

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• (01:52) - HackingFace
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• (29:02) - White House Puts $5B into AI Science
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• (44:55) - Veeral Patel, Director of Software Engineering at Ramp, discusses the launch of Ramp Router, a tool developed internally over three years to optimize AI model selection and token cost management. He explains how Ramp Router allows enterprises to dynamically route tasks to the most efficient AI models, balancing factors like latency, cost, and performance. Patel emphasizes that this product aligns with Ramp's mission to help companies save time and money, extending their expertise from expense management to AI token spend optimization.
• (55:35) - Lin Qiao, co-founder and CEO of Fireworks AI, announced the company's recent $1.5 billion fundraising round, emphasizing their focus on building a specialized intelligence platform that enables enterprises to transform private data into customized AI models optimized for speed and cost. She highlighted the industry's shift from general to specialized AI solutions, stressing the importance of companies maintaining control over their proprietary data to develop durable businesses. Qiao also discussed the challenges of scaling AI applications efficiently, noting that without careful management, even successful products risk scaling into bankruptcy due to high operational costs.
• (01:05:36) - Jason Fried is the co-founder and CEO of 37signals, a Chicago-based software company known for creating project management and communication tools like Basecamp and HEY. In the conversation, Fried discusses his passion for classic cars, sharing experiences with his 1979 Porsche 928 and reflecting on past decisions regarding vehicle trades. He also touches on the challenges of purchasing vintage cars through auctions, emphasizing the importance of thorough inspections to avoid unforeseen issues.
• (01:31:41) - Travis Kalanick is the co-founder and former CEO of Uber, which he helped grow into a global ride-hailing giant. He now leads Atoms, an industrial robotics and “physical AI” company spanning food automation, mining, and transportation, built from the parent company behind CloudKitchens.
• (02:17:29) - Max Hodak, founder and CEO of Science Corporation, discusses the recent European marketing approval for their retinal prosthesis designed to restore vision in patients with age-related macular degeneration. He outlines the upcoming steps for commercialization in Europe, including country-specific registrations and surgeon training, and mentions the expedited approval pathway in the U.S. through the FDA's humanitarian device exemption. Hodak also highlights ongoing research and development efforts to enhance the implant's capabilities, aiming for higher resolution, expanded field of view, and color perception.

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