In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, the host Nathan Labenz welcomes Amit Jain, CEO and Jiaming Song, Chief Scientist at Luma Labs, alongside co-host Stephen Parker. The conversation delves into the latest advancements and products from Luma Labs, makers of the Dream Machine, including cutting-edge models and features like camera motion and creative video generation tools. They explore technical aspects like pre-training for diffusion models and the development of concepts to improve AI capabilities. The discussion also covers the philosophical and practical implications of AI interpretability and multimodality, along with a deep dive into the intellectual history and recent innovations in diffusion models.

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In this episode, former OpenAI research scientist Steven Adler discusses his insights on OpenAI's transition through various phases, including its growth, internal culture shifts, and the contentious move from nonprofit to for-profit. The conversation delves into the initial days of OpenAI's development of GPT-3 and GPT-4, the cultural and ethical disagreements within the organization, and the recent amicus brief addressing the Elon versus OpenAI lawsuit. Steven Adler also explores the broader implications of AI capabilities, safety evaluations, and the critical need for transparent and responsible AI governance. The episode provides a candid look at the internal dynamics of a leading AI company and offers perspectives on the responsibilities and challenges faced by AI researchers and developers today.

Amicus brief to the Elon Musk versus OpenAI lawsuit: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.433688/gov.uscourts.cand.433688.152.0.pdf

Steven Adler's post on 'X' about Personhood credentials (a paper co-authored by him) : https://x.com/sjgadler/status/1824245211322568903

Steven Adler's substack post on "minimum testing period" for frontier AI : https://substack.com/@sjadler/p-161143327?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Steven Adler's substack post on TSFT Model Testing: https://substack.com/@sjadler/p-159883282?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Steven Adler's Substack: https://stevenadler.substack.com/

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(05:15) Joining OpenAI: Early Days and Cultural Insights

(06:41) The Anthropic Split and Its Impact

(11:32) Product Safety and Content Policies at OpenAI (Part 1)

(19:21) Sponsors: ElevenLabs | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)

(21:48) Product Safety and Content Policies at OpenAI (Part 2)

(22:08) The Launch and Impact of GPT-4

(32:15) Evaluating AI Models: Challenges and Best Practices (Part 1)

(33:46) Sponsors: Shopify | NetSuite

(37:10) Evaluating AI Models: Challenges and Best Practices (Part 2)

(55:58) AGI Readiness and Personhood Credentials

(01:05:03) Biometrics and Internet Friction

(01:06:52) Credential Security and Recovery

(01:08:05) Trust and Ecosystem Diversity

(01:09:40) AI Agents and Verification Challenges

(01:14:28) OpenAI's Evolution and Ambitions

(01:22:07) Safety and Regulation in AI Development

(01:35:53) Internal Dynamics and Cultural Shifts

(01:58:18) Concluding Thoughts on AI Governance

(02:02:29) Outro

In this episode, we share a fascinating conversation from the 80,000 Hours Podcast between Rob Wiblin and Buck Shlegeris, CEO of Redwood Research. Buck dives deep into the emerging field of AI Control strategies for safely working with powerful AIs even if they’re not fully aligned. They explore innovative techniques like always-on auditing, honeypotting, re-sampling, and factored cognition to monitor and manage AI behaviors. This discussion highlights both the promise and challenges of controlling increasingly autonomous AI systems in today’s fast-evolving landscape. Tune in for a thoughtful, first-principles look at how we might secure useful outcomes from AIs we can’t fully trust.

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In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, an AI-narrated version of Joshua Clymer's story on how AI might take over in two years is presented. The episode is based on Josh's appearance on the Audio Tokens podcast with Lukas Peterson. Joshua Clymer, a technical AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, shares a fictional yet plausible AI scenario grounded in current industry realities and trends. The story highlights potential misalignment risks, competitive pressures among AI labs, and the importance of government regulation and safety measures. After the story, Josh and Lukas discuss these topics further, including Josh's personal decision to purchase a bio shelter for his family. The episode is powered by ElevenLabs' AI voice technology.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(04:31) Interview start between Josh and Lucas

(11:00) Start of AI story (Part 1)

(24:37) Sponsors: ElevenLabs | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)

(27:05) Start of AI story (Part 2) (Part 1)

(40:50) Sponsors: Shopify | NetSuite

(44:15) Start of AI story (Part 2) (Part 2)

(01:20:09) End of AI story

(02:01:20) Outro

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Micha Kaufman, founder and CEO of Fiverr, about the company's new AI suite called Fiverr Go. Kaufman shares his unique values-based approach to AI implementation, which aims to empower human creators rather than replace them in the freelance marketplace. The conversation explores how Fiverr is attempting to build an AI-human hybrid model that maintains the incentives for human creativity while providing freelancers with tools to work more efficiently and monetize their distinctive styles, positioning itself as a counterpoint to AI platforms that devalue human creative work.

OpenAI's SWE-Lancer benchmark: https://openai.com/index/swe-lancer/

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(06:33) Introduction and AI Wake-up Call

(08:26) New Standards for Work

(14:43) Freelancers vs Full-time Workers

(19:12) Fiverr Marketplace Evolution (Part 1)

(22:35) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Shopify

(25:46) Fiverr Marketplace Evolution (Part 2)

(27:10) AI Impact on Marketplace

(32:46) Future Belongs to Hackers (Part 1)

(42:30) Sponsors: NetSuite

(43:58) Future Belongs to Hackers (Part 2)

(43:58) Why People Hire Others

(45:10) Philosophy Behind Fiverr Go

(55:35) Changing Internet Experiences

(01:00:08) Fiverr Go Product Suite

(01:06:59) AI Model Compatibility Challenges

(01:13:12) Future of Human Creation

(01:21:43) Tasks Humans Should Delegate

(01:27:24) AI Improving Market Liquidity

(01:29:31) Leadership in AI Transition

(01:35:04) Hiring in the AI Age

(01:40:04) Optimism for the Future

(01:41:08) Outro

In this thought-provoking episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jeremy and Edouard Harris, founders of Gladstone AI and authors of "America's Superintelligence Project." The conversation explores a critical dilemma facing US policymakers: balancing the race to develop advanced AI ahead of China against the risks of losing control of increasingly powerful systems. Drawing from their extensive research with intelligence officials and technical experts, the Harris brothers detail the vulnerabilities in US critical infrastructure that would need to be addressed for a Manhattan Project-style AI initiative, while raising profound questions about the security compromises and centralization of power such a project would entail. Nathan offers his perspective that international cooperation might be preferable to an AI arms race, inviting listeners to consider whether humanity's shared interests might ultimately outweigh geopolitical rivalries in the development of superintelligent systems.

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America’s Superintelligence Project: https://superintelligence.gladstone.ai

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In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, the host Nathan Labenz is joined for the record 9th time by Zvi Mowshowitz to discuss the state of AI advancements, focusing on recent developments such as OpenAI's O3 model and its implications for AGI and recursive self-improvement. They delve into the capabilities and limitations of current AI models in various domains, including coding, deep research, and practical utilities. The discussion also covers the strategic and ethical considerations in AI development, touching upon the roles of major AI labs, the potential for weaponization, and the importance of balancing innovation with safety. Zvi shares insights on what it means to be a live player in the AI race, the impact of transparency and safety measures, and the challenges of governance in the context of rapidly advancing AI technologies.

Nathan Labenz's slide deck documenting the ever-growing list of AI Bad Behaviors: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mvkpg1mtAvGzTiiwYPc6bKOGsQXDIwMb-ytQECb3i7I/edit#slide=id.g252d9e67d86_0_16

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In this crossover episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan Labenz joins Liron Shapira of Doom Debates, for a wide-ranging news and analysis discussion about recent AI developments. The conversation covers significant topics including GPT-4o image generation's implications for designers and businesses like Waymark, debates around learning to code, entrepreneurship versus job security, and the validity of OpenAI's $300 billion valuation. Nathan and Leron also explore AI safety organizations, international cooperation possibilities, and Anthropic's new mechanistic interpretability paper, providing listeners with thoughtful perspectives on the high-stakes nature of advanced AI development across society.

All the links mentioned in the episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LyFMLH5VpkhY7KfFBpgi2vhfbmdbDtQ4hh03KXEXyiE/edit?usp=sharing

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(02:58) Introduction and Guest Background

(08:23) P Doom Discussion

(13:15) Anthropic Leadership Concerns (Part 1)

(19:50) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Shopify

(21:04) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Shopify

(23:00) Anthropic Leadership Concerns (Part 2)

(29:34) GPT-4o Image Capabilities (Part 1)

(29:43) Sponsors: NetSuite

(31:11) GPT-4o Image Capabilities (Part 2)

(38:19) AI Impact on Creative Work

(48:26) Future of Software Engineering

(01:02:10) NVIDIA Stock Discussion

(01:09:21) OpenAI's $300B Valuation

(01:17:37) AI Models and Safety

(01:33:58) Packy's AI Concerns Critique

(01:46:41) Emmett Shear's Organic Alignment

(02:04:43) Anthropic's Interpretability Paper

(02:17:53) International AI Cooperation

(02:27:38) Outro

In this thought-provoking conversation, Helen Toner, Director of Strategy at the Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET), discusses her perspectives on AI development, regulation, and international competition. Toner shares insights from her time on OpenAI's board, clarifying that reports about a "Q*" breakthrough influencing the board's decision were "totally false." She introduces her concept of "adaptation buffers"—critical windows of time between when AI capabilities are first demonstrated and when they become widely accessible—arguing that society needs this time to build resilience against potential misuse. Toner also explores the challenges of implementing effective AI governance, military applications of AI decision support systems, and the complex dynamics of US-China relations in the emerging AI landscape.

Helen Toner's appearance on the TED AI show: https://www.ted.com/talks/the_ted_ai_show_what_really_went_down_at_openai_and_the_future_of_regulation_w_helen_toner

Helen Toner's substack : https://helentoner.substack.com/

Additional recommended reads:

https://helentoner.substack.com/p/nonproliferation-is-the-wrong-approach

https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/ai-for-military-decision-making/

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/ai-regulation-s-champions-can-seize-common-ground-or-be-swept-aside

https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2024/05/26/ai-firms-mustnt-govern-themselves-say-ex-members-of-openais-board

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) Teaser

(06:04) Introduction and Background

(09:32) AI Timeline Perspectives

(12:26) OpenAI Board Experience

(17:04) OpenAI Culture Discussion (Part 1)

(19:20) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Shopify

(20:33) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Shopify

(22:30) OpenAI Culture Discussion (Part 2)

(24:03) OpenAI's Contradictory Messaging

(26:15) Whistleblowing in AI

(31:30) AI Transparency Requirements (Part 1)

(36:30) Sponsors: NetSuite

(37:58) AI Transparency Requirements (Part 2)

(38:38) Adaptation Buffers Concept

(44:06) Technical vs. Societal Solutions

(52:13) AI Regulation Approaches

(57:20) Iterative Deployment Challenges

(01:05:50) US-China AI Competition

(01:14:54) Military Decision Support Systems

(01:20:57) Future AI Military Equilibrium

(01:27:39) Outro

In this crossover episode from the China Talk podcast, Nathan Labenz shares a thought-provoking conversation between Jordan Schneider, Ilari Michaela, and Professor David C. Kang that challenges conventional Western perspectives on East Asian international relations. Professor Kang argues that studying East Asian history on its own terms reveals a remarkably stable geopolitical system spanning nearly a millennium, where China maintained regional dominance without conquest through compatible cultures and mutual understanding. This alternative framework offers valuable insights that question the seemingly inevitable US-China competition narrative dominating AI discourse, suggesting that internal challenges may be more significant than external threats for both China and the United States.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(03:30) Introduction to East Asian Relations

(04:41) Internal vs External Challenges

(07:05) Song Dynasty's Fall

(13:35) Western vs Eastern Frontiers

(19:06) Shared Cultural Understanding (Part 1)

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(23:45) Shared Cultural Understanding (Part 2)

(25:57) Vietnam-China Relations

(30:08) Korea's Diplomatic Strategy (Part 1)

(32:19) Sponsors: NetSuite

(33:52) Korea's Diplomatic Strategy (Part 2)

(35:17) The Imjin War

(43:36) Thucydides Trap Question

(49:19) Power Transition Theory Debate

(53:49) Expansion and Frontiers

(01:02:00) Modern Implications

(01:06:00) PRC and Imperial Legacy

(01:13:16) Taiwan and Modern Challenges

(01:25:42) US Role in East Asia

(01:29:35) Concluding Thoughts

(01:37:17) Outro

In this episode, Nathan Labenz speaks with Vivek Natarajan and Anil Palepu from Google DeepMind about their groundbreaking work on AMIE (Articulate Medical Intelligence Explorer) and Co-Scientist. The conversation reveals how these AI systems are already outperforming human physicians in diagnostic accuracy and treatment recommendations, with AMIE now entering clinical trials at a Harvard Medical School teaching hospital. Even more remarkably, the Co-Scientist system demonstrates genuine scientific discovery capabilities, independently proposing the exact same mechanism for bacterial drug resistance that human scientists had recently discovered but not yet published—signaling a threshold moment where AI is becoming a legitimate thought partner in humanity's most complex intellectual endeavors.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(06:26) Introduction and Welcome

(07:49) AMY Medical Intelligence Overview

(11:29) Chat-Based Medical Interactions

(13:59) Specialized Medicine Results

(18:17) Co-Scientist System Headlines (Part 1)

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(21:36) Co-Scientist System Headlines (Part 2)

(26:32) Bacterial Drug Resistance Discovery

(31:41) AI Scientific Discovery Process

(35:35) Hallucinations vs. Creativity (Part 1)

(35:37) Sponsors: NetSuite

(37:10) Hallucinations vs. Creativity (Part 2)

(42:04) Agent Design Architecture

(49:17) Long Context Benefits

(55:35) Computational Requirements

(01:01:10) Specialist Models Integration

(01:07:01) Future Model Integration

(01:12:31) Tournament Evaluation Methods

(01:19:09) AI Question Generation

(01:22:42) Real-World Deployment Plans

(01:25:58) Outro