"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.
- 1 hour 57 minutesHistoric AI Developments & the Emerging Shape of Superintelligence, from the Consistently Candid Podcast
In this episode, we discuss the significant advancements and challenges in the field of artificial intelligence over the past year. From breakthroughs in reinforcement learning to unexpected behaviors in fine-tuned models, we cover a wide range of topics that are shaping the AI landscape. Key discussions include the rapid progress of reasoning models, the surprising results from alignment studies, and the potential for AI to become superintelligent. We also explore the emerging importance of AI memory and its implications for future applications. Tune in for a deep dive into the current state and future trajectory of AI technology.
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SafeBase: SafeBase is the leading trust-centered platform for enterprise security. Streamline workflows, automate questionnaire responses, and integrate with tools like Slack and Salesforce to eliminate friction in the review process. With rich analytics and customizable settings, SafeBase scales to complex use cases while showcasing security's impact on deal acceleration. Trusted by companies like OpenAI, SafeBase ensures value in just 16 days post-launch. Learn more at https://safebase.io/podcast
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
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Second Opinion. Join Christina Farr, Ash Zenooz and Luba Greenwood as they bring influential entrepreneurs, experts and investors into the ring for candid conversations at the frontlines of healthcare and digital health every week.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SecondOpinionwithChristinaFarr
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8 March 2025, 10:26 pm - 1 hour 32 minutesFrontier Models for Frontier Science with Professor Derya Unutmaz, Immunologist & ChatGPT Pro Grantee
In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Professor Derya Unutmaz, a biomedical scientist and human immunologist at the Jackson Laboratory, discusses his groundbreaking research in aging and cancer immunotherapy. As a ChatGPT Pro grant awardee, Derya provides insights into the integration of AI with biomedical sciences, emphasizing how advanced AI models are transforming hypothesis generation, data analysis, and scientific discovery. He also covers his early passion for computers and programming, the inspiration he derived from Ray Kurzweil's work, and how AI is democratizing science by enabling even young researchers to make significant contributions. Derya outlines his vision for a future with ASI, discussing potential societal impacts, the need for regulatory AI models, and the promise of a golden age where diseases are cured, aging is reversed, and resource scarcity is a thing of the past. Finally, he dreams about the long-term future, imagining a life of exploration and discovery across the cosmos.
SPONSORS:
SafeBase: SafeBase is the leading trust-centered platform for enterprise security. Streamline workflows, automate questionnaire responses, and integrate with tools like Slack and Salesforce to eliminate friction in the review process. With rich analytics and customizable settings, SafeBase scales to complex use cases while showcasing security's impact on deal acceleration. Trusted by companies like OpenAI, SafeBase ensures value in just 16 days post-launch. Learn more at https://safebase.io/podcast
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
Second Opinion. Join Christina Farr, Ash Zenooz and Luba Greenwood as they bring influential entrepreneurs, experts and investors into the ring for candid conversations at the frontlines of healthcare and digital health every week.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SecondOpinionwithChristinaFarr
6 March 2025, 8:20 pm - 1 hour 9 minutesUS-China Relations: History, Culture, and AI Competition, with Noah Smith, from Econ 102
In this episode, the host Nathan Labenz and economist Noah Smith delve into the complexities of U.S.-China relations, the motivations behind the United States' export controls and the broader geopolitical tensions. The discussion covers the perceived threats posed by China's technological advancements, especially in AI, and the implications for global stability. The conversation includes an analysis of economic decoupling, military deterrence, and the historical context of U.S.-China cooperation. The discussion also explores the role of misinformation, societal destabilization, and strategic military balance. The episode concludes with insights into the future direction of U.S.-China interactions and potential pathways for stabilizing the relationship.
SPONSORS:
SafeBase: SafeBase is the leading trust-centered platform for enterprise security. Streamline workflows, automate questionnaire responses, and integrate with tools like Slack and Salesforce to eliminate friction in the review process. With rich analytics and customizable settings, SafeBase scales to complex use cases while showcasing security's impact on deal acceleration. Trusted by companies like OpenAI, SafeBase ensures value in just 16 days post-launch. Learn more at https://safebase.io/podcast
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
Second Opinion. Join Christina Farr, Ash Zenooz and Luba Greenwood as they bring influential entrepreneurs, experts and investors into the ring for candid conversations at the frontlines of healthcare and digital health every week.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SecondOpinionwithChristinaFarr
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1 March 2025, 6:28 pm - 2 hours 34 minutesThe Adversarial Mind: Defeating AI Defenses with Nicholas Carlini of Google DeepMind
In this episode, security researcher Nicholas Carlini of Google DeepMind delves into his extensive work on adversarial machine learning and cybersecurity. He discusses his pioneering contributions, which include developing attacks that have challenged the defenses of image classifiers and exploring the robustness of neural networks. Carlini details the inherent difficulties of defending against adversarial attacks, the role of human intuition in his work, and the potential of scaling attack methodologies using language models. He also addresses the broader implications of open-source AI and the complexities of balancing security with accessibility in emerging AI technologies.
SPONSORS:
SafeBase: SafeBase is the leading trust-centered platform for enterprise security. Streamline workflows, automate questionnaire responses, and integrate with tools like Slack and Salesforce to eliminate friction in the review process. With rich analytics and customizable settings, SafeBase scales to complex use cases while showcasing security's impact on deal acceleration. Trusted by companies like OpenAI, SafeBase ensures value in just 16 days post-launch. Learn more at https://safebase.io/podcast
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Second OpinionJoin Christina Farr, Ash Zenooz and Luba Greenwood as they bring influential entrepreneurs, experts and investors into the ring for candid conversations at the frontlines of healthcare and digital health every week.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SecondOpinionwithChristinaFarr
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Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast
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27 February 2025, 6:24 pm - 55 minutes 54 secondsNew Jersey’s AI Moonshot: Governor Phil Murphy on Partnerships, Progress, and Preparedness
Phil Murphy, the Governor of New Jersey, joins Nathan to discuss his proactive approach to AI and its potential transformative impact on society. Governor Murphy shares insights from a pivotal dinner with AI thought leaders that spurred New Jersey's ambitious AI initiatives, including the establishment of the NJ AI Hub with Princeton University. He elaborates on current applications, like the AI assistant used by state employees, and discusses broader implications for local governance, workforce training, and public services. Murphy touches upon ethical considerations, potential job displacement, and regulatory challenges, emphasizing the need for a balance between innovation and fairness. The conversation also explores international competition, particularly with China, and reflects on the rapid pace of AI advancement.
SPONSORS:
SafeBase: SafeBase is the leading trust-centered platform for enterprise security. Streamline workflows, automate questionnaire responses, and integrate with tools like Slack and Salesforce to eliminate friction in the review process. With rich analytics and customizable settings, SafeBase scales to complex use cases while showcasing security's impact on deal acceleration. Trusted by companies like OpenAI, SafeBase ensures value in just 16 days post-launch. Learn more at https://safebase.io/podcast
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Second Opinion
Join Christina Farr, Ash Zenooz and Luba Greenwood as they bring influential entrepreneurs, experts and investors into the ring for candid conversations at the frontlines of healthcare and digital health every week.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SecondOpinionwithChristinaFarr
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22 February 2025, 4:54 pm - 3 hours 21 minutesInference Scaling, Alignment Faking, Deal Making? Frontier Research with Ryan Greenblatt of Redwood Research
In this episode, Ryan Greenblatt, Chief Scientist at Redwood Research, discusses various facets of AI safety and alignment. He delves into recent research on alignment faking, covering experiments involving different setups such as system prompts, continued pre-training, and reinforcement learning. Ryan offers insights on methods to ensure AI compliance, including giving AIs the ability to voice objections and negotiate deals. The conversation also touches on the future of AI governance, the risks associated with AI development, and the necessity of international cooperation. Ryan shares his perspective on balancing AI progress with safety, emphasizing the need for transparency and cautious advancement.
Ryan's work (with co-authors at Anthropic) on Alignment Faking: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/njAZwT8nkHnjipJku/alignment-faking-in-large-language-models
Ryan's work on striking deals with AIs: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/7C4KJot4aN8ieEDoz/will-alignment-faking-claude-accept-a-deal-to-reveal-its
Ryan's critique of Anthropic's RSP work: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6tjHf5ykvFqaNCErH/anthropic-s-responsible-scaling-policy-and-long-term-benefit?commentId=NyqcvZifqznNGKxdT
SPONSORS:
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
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Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg
20 February 2025, 3:32 pm - 1 hour 31 minutesAn Application-Free Future? Speaking Directly to Data with illumex CEO Inna Tokarev Sela
In this episode, Inna Tokarev Sela, CEO of illumex, delves into the latest advancements in AI and data management. She discusses the foundational vision behind illumex, a company she started in 2021 to revolutionize the way businesses interact with data. Inna explains illumex's approach to creating application-free futures for knowledge workers by utilizing metadata to automate context and reasoning, ensuring efficient and secure data handling. The conversation covers illumex’s techniques for integrating business logic without directly accessing sensitive data, challenges faced in AI implementation, and the future of data analytics. Inna also offers insights into preparing individuals for evolving job roles in the tech industry, touching on academic research and real-world applications.
Check out illumex at: https://illumex.ai/
SPONSORS:
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Teaser
(00:38) About the Episode
(03:54) Introduction to the Cognitive Revolution
(04:42) The Vision Behind illumex
(05:33) Application-Free Future
(10:47) Demonstration of illumex Capabilities
(13:39) Understanding Enterprise Data
(15:35) Automated Ontology Creation (Part 1)
(19:28) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite
(22:08) Automated Ontology Creation (Part 2)
(23:39) Challenges and Solutions in Data Mapping (Part 1)
(29:18) Sponsors: Shopify
(30:38) Challenges and Solutions in Data Mapping (Part 2)
(40:18) Evolution of AI Models in Business Context
(51:13) Illumex: The Perfect Platform for Control Freaks
(52:32) Building Trust and Governance in Data Analytics
(55:21) The Role of Analysts in Data-Driven Decision Making
(55:55) Addressing Underutilized Data and BI Dashboards
(57:59) Challenges in Data Accuracy and Anomalies
(59:05) Managing Data Volume and Context Windows
(01:01:02) Semantic Entities and Workflow Validation
(01:03:24) Metadata-Based Business Models
(01:09:04) The Future of Data Management and Integration
(01:11:55) User Personas and Self-Service Evolution
(01:13:58) Pricing Models for Enterprise SaaS Products
(01:17:11) The Future of Data Analytics Careers
(01:21:24) Academic Research and Industry Inspiration
(01:26:39) AI Education for the Next Generation
(01:28:39) Outro
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15 February 2025, 8:14 pm - 1 hour 32 minutesClaude Cooperates! Exploring Cultural Evolution in LLM Societies, with Aron Vallinder & Edward Hughes
In this episode, Edward Hughes, researcher at Google DeepMind, and Aron Vallinder, an independent researcher and PIBBSS fellow discuss their pioneering research on cultural evolution and cooperation among large language model agents. The conversation delves into the study's design, exploring how different AI models exhibit cooperative behavior in simulated environments, the implications of these findings for future AI development, and the potential societal impacts of autonomous AI agents. They elaborate on their experimental setup involving different LLMs like Claude, Gemini 1.5, and GPT-4.0 in a cooperative donor-recipient game, shedding light on how various AI models handle cooperation and their potential societal impacts. Key points include the importance of understanding externalities, the role of punishment and communication, and future research directions involving mixed-model societies and human-AI interactions. The episode invites listeners to engage in this fast-growing field, stressing the need for more hands-on research and empirical evidence to navigate the rapidly evolving AI landscape.
Link to Aron & Edward's research paper "Cultural Evolution of Cooperation among LLM
SPONSORS:
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Teaser
(00:42) About the Episode
(03:26) Introduction
(03:40) The Rapid Evolution of AI
(04:58) Human Cooperation and Society
(07:03) Cultural Evolution and Stories
(08:39) Mechanisms of Cultural Evolution (Part 1)
(20:56) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite
(23:35) Mechanisms of Cultural Evolution (Part 2)
(27:07) Experimental Setup: Donor Game (Part 1)
(37:35) Sponsors: Shopify
(38:55) Experimental Setup: Donor Game (Part 2)
(44:32) Exploring AI Societies: Claude, Gemini, and GPT-4
(45:50) Striking Graphical Differences
(48:08) Experiment Results and Implications
(50:54) Prompt Engineering and Cooperation
(57:40) Mixed Model Societies
(01:00:35) Future Research Directions
(01:03:10) Human-AI Interaction and Influence
(01:05:20) Complexifying AI Games
(01:18:14) Evaluations and Feedback Loops
(01:20:50) Open Source and AI Safety
(01:23:23) Reflections and Future Work
(01:30:04) Outro
12 February 2025, 3:23 pm - 1 hour 34 minutesSoftware Supernova: Lovable's "Superhuman Full Stack Engineer" to Transform Idea to App in Seconds
In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, founder Anton Osika and AI engineer Isaak Sundeman from Lovable.dev, discuss their AI coding platform that allows users to describe software in natural language and have it built by AI. They delve into the nuances of using AI for full-stack engineering and the future of human coding. During the episode, they demonstrate building a product comparison app, discussing the integration of AI, backend functionalities, and handling complex API interactions. They also talk about the challenges and opportunities in UI design, the role of AI in improving user experiences, and the potential future impacts of AI on software development. The conversation touches on the phenomenal growth and scaling of Lovable.dev, their strategies for managing context and dependencies in large codebases, and their vision and roadmap for the future of AI-powered application development.
Checkout lovable here: http://lovable.dev
SPONSORS:
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Teaser
(00:56) About the Episode
(03:57) Introduction and Guest Welcome
(04:21) Overview of Lovable.dev
(04:53) Building a Product Comparison App
(05:19) Starting the Coding Process
(05:46) Defining the App's Functionality
(08:21) Setting Up the Backend
(13:20) Future of Software and AI (Part 1)
(17:40) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite
(20:20) Future of Software and AI (Part 2)
(23:44) Challenges in AI Development (Part 1)
(32:48) Sponsors: Shopify
(34:07) Challenges in AI Development (Part 2)
(39:08) Integrating External APIs
(54:01) Helping Out and Initial Fixes
(54:18) Progress with Documentation and API Updates
(55:21) AI Analysis and Product Comparison
(57:33) Building AI Applications: Challenges and Solutions
(59:02) Understanding AI Agency and User Experience
(01:24:27) Scaling and User Growth
(01:29:03) Future Directions and Hiring
(01:30:55) Final Thoughts and Advice
(01:32:06) Outro
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9 February 2025, 3:26 pm - 1 hour 26 minutesSoftware Supernova: Bolt.new - The AI Web App Developer In Your Browser
In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Eric Simons, founder and CEO of StackBlitz, discusses the transformative impact of AI on the software development industry. Eric delves into the vision and technologies behind Bolt (bolt.new), StackBlitz's groundbreaking AI-driven platform, which enables users to build full-stack applications with ease. He talks about the future of AI in coding, the balance between human oversight and AI autonomy, and the infrastructure that powers Bolt's capabilities. With the platform growing rapidly and generating millions in ARR, StackBlitz is pushing the boundaries of what AI can achieve in web development.
Checkout bolt here: http://bolt.new
SPONSORS:
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive
Shopify: Shopify is revolutionizing online selling with its market-leading checkout system and robust API ecosystem. Its exclusive library of cutting-edge AI apps empowers e-commerce businesses to thrive in a competitive market. Cognitive Revolution listeners can try Shopify for just $1 per month at https://shopify.com/cognitive
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Teaser
(00:42) About the Episode
(03:33) Introduction to Eric Simons and StackBlitz
(04:04) Eric's AI Worldview
(07:56) The Future of Software Development
(12:16) Target Customers and Use Cases (Part 1)
(15:41) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite
(18:21) Target Customers and Use Cases (Part 2)
(18:40) Challenges and Solutions in AI-Driven Development
(25:57) Success Metrics and Technological Innovations (Part 1)
(32:15) Sponsors: Shopify
(33:35) Success Metrics and Technological Innovations (Part 2)
(39:20) Demo of Bolt's Capabilities
(49:02) AI Agent Integration
(49:13) Cost-Effective Development
(49:30) Non-Technical Founders
(50:02) Pricing Model Insights
(53:39) Open Source and Local Deployment
(57:06) In-Browser Development
(01:09:16) Future of AI in Development
(01:20:17) Balancing Present and Future
(01:22:34) Conclusion and Hiring
(01:24:06) Outro
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9 February 2025, 3:24 pm - 59 minutes 45 secondsGemini's Next Frontier: 2.0 Flash, Flash Lite Strategy & Real-Time APIs with Logan K from Google Deepmind
In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, Logan Kilpatrick, Product Manager at Google DeepMind, returns to discuss the latest updates on the Gemini API and AI Studio. Logan delves into his experiences transitioning to DeepMind and the restructuring within Google focusing on AI. He highlights new product releases, including the Gemini 2.0 models, and their implications for developers. Logan also touches on the future of AI in text-to-app creation, the impact of reasoning and long context in models, and the broader industry trends. The conversation wraps up with insights into fine-tuning, reinforcement learning, vision language models, and startup opportunities in the AI space.
SPONSORS:
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Teaser
(00:54) Introduction and Welcome
(03:56) The Future of Text App Creation
(05:15) Multimodal API and Real-World Applications
(10:37) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite
(13:17) The Evolution of Long Context and Reasoning
(19:19) Vision Language Models and Passive Applications
(21:50) New Launches and Future Prospects (Part 1)
(28:35) Sponsors: Shopify
(29:55) New Launches and Future Prospects (Part 2)
(31:55) Flashlight Models and Cost Efficiency
(34:36) Pro Models and Frontier Applications
(39:52) Evaluating AI Models
(48:57) Fine-Tuning and Reinforcement Learning
(51:42) Opportunities for Startups
(55:52) Conclusion and Final Thoughts
(56:59) Outro
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