What Came Next

Broken Cycle Media

What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the convictions are in, the cameras stop rolling, and the court of public opinion has spoken? Can sharing our stories lead to justice, and is there ever really justice? These questions and many more are discussed on the new true crime docuseries podcast brought to you by Broken Cycle Media (https://www.brokencyclemedia.com/) . What Came Next (http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast) is co-created and produced by Something Was Wrong (http://www.somethingwaswrong.com) ’s Tiffany Reese and host, award-winning writer, victim advocate and true crime survivor Amy B. Chesler (http://www.amybchesler.com) . On What Came Next (http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast) , you’ll hear firsthand accounts from those impacted, with behind the scenes insights about what came next for survivors after their stories were shared with the world, and how the media impacts crime victims and their loved ones.

  • 35 minutes 33 seconds
    119: [Hannah Vanderhorst] Change Will Occur // Part 2
    Content warning: assault, sexual assault, rape, serial rape, and nonconsensual pornography.

    As shared in part one of her story, Hannah Vanderhorst is a special education teacher and administrator living in Denver, Colorado. Having moved to the city in 2016, just before going through a breakup, Hannah turned to dating apps to expand her social circle and look for potential love. However, an October 2019 date changed her trajectory forever. It was on this date that she became a victim of a serial sexual predator, although she wouldn’t find that out until over three years after her assault. Hannah would then join a taxing legal battle to receive justice, witness legal change elicited by her and others’ experiences, and work to heal from the trauma. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful that Hannah was willing to so selflessly share her story to bring awareness to our listeners.

    Sources:

    Allyn, B. (2024, February 15). Maker of Tinder, Hinge sued over “addictive” dating apps that put profits over love. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2024/02/14/1231513991/tinder-hinge-match-group-lawsuit

    Dugdale, E., & Harjani, H. (2025, March 6). Rape under wraps: how Tinder, Hinge and their corporate owner chose profits over safety. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/13/tinder-hinge-match-investigation

    Maass, B. (2024, March 11). Colorado bill seeking to regulate dating apps passes through committee: “Something clearly has to be done.” CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-lawmakers-seek-regulate-dating-apps-following-cardiologist-case/

    Maass, B. (2024, October 26). Cardiologist Stephen Matthews sentenced to 158 years for drugging, sexually assaulting Colorado women he met on dating apps. CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/stephen-matthews-sentenced-158-years-drugging-sexually-assaulting-women-met-dating-apps-cardiologist/

    Online-Facilitated Misconduct & Remote Tracking | Colorado General Assembly. (n.d.). Colorado General Assembly. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb24-011

    Schweitzer, A. (2025, February 25). Online dating giant Match Group is slow to remove dangerous daters, investigation finds. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5301046/match-group-dating-app-tinder-hinge-assault-cases-investigation

    https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/stephen-matthews-verdict/73-b3d763d5-5469-4852-a86a-e4c64d740ef7

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
    18 April 2025, 7:03 am
  • 30 minutes 29 seconds
    118: [Hannah Vanderhorst] Something So Sinister // Part 1
    Content warning: assault, sexual assault, rape, serial rape, and nonconsensual pornography. 

    Hannah Vanderhorst is a special education teacher and administrator living in Denver, Colorado. Having moved to the city in 2016, just before going through a breakup, Hannah turned to dating apps to expand her social circle and look for potential love. However, an October 2019 date changed her trajectory forever. It was on this date that she became a victim of a serial sexual predator, although she wouldn’t find that out until over three years after her assault. Hannah would then join a taxing legal battle to receive justice, witness legal change elicited by her and others’ experiences, and work to heal from the trauma. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful that Hannah was willing to so selflessly share her story to bring awareness to our listeners.

    Sources:

    Maass, B. (2024, October 26). Cardiologist Stephen Matthews sentenced to 158 years for drugging, sexually assaulting Colorado women he met on dating apps. CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/stephen-matthews-sentenced-158-years-drugging-sexually-assaulting-women-met-dating-apps-cardiologist/

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    11 April 2025, 7:12 am
  • 6 minutes 2 seconds
    Presenting: CRIME HOUSE TRUE CRIME STORIES
    Content warning: abduction, kidnapping, violence, gun violence, robbery, assault, and murder.

    Crime House True Crime Stories is the ultimate destination for true crime fans. Every episode features two notorious cases from that week in crime history, tied by a common theme like infamous serial killers, mysterious disappearances, tragic murders, and more. Every Monday, uncover the full stories behind the headlines as host Vanessa Richardson takes you through high-profile investigations like the murder of Gabby Petito, the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart, and the mass suicide of the Heaven's Gate cult. Follow Crime House True Crime Stories — a Crime House Original — wherever you listen to podcasts.
    10 April 2025, 7:12 am
  • 39 minutes 27 seconds
    117: [Joan Hoyt] A Danger to Society
    Content warning: pedophilia, sexual sadism, paraphilia, psychopathy, brutality, child sexual abuse material, rape, sexual assault, torture, and murder.

    Joan Hoyt is a business professional and family woman from Santa Cruz, California. Although she has proudly served her county as a juror before, a 2024 jury duty assignment opened her eyes to the harsh realities of a criminal justice process she would have never thought was real prior. Her assignment included listening to the heartbreaking facts of Madyson Middleton’s gruesome 2015 murder, then deeming whether Madyson’s murderer should be released from juvenile incarceration in February of 2025, only ten years later. And when the jurors learned this process will occur every two years in perpetuity because of laws placed in effect after Madyson’s murder, Joan and her fellow jurors began using all they witnessed as fuel towards making legal change. The Broken Cycle Media team is so deeply grateful Joan was willing to share her unique perspective with us today, and that she continues to fight for justice for Madyson and so many others. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Madyson Middleton.

    Sources:

    California Supreme Court Upholds Law Protecting 14–15-Year-Olds from Transfer to Adult Court. (2022, July 27). National Center for Youth Law. https://youthlaw.org/news/california-supreme-court-upholds-law-protecting-14-15-year-olds-transfer-adult-court

    Chun, M. (2025, February 28). Juror in Gonzalez trial urges reform of state bill that prevented him from being charged as adult, allows repeat chances for release. Lookout Santa Cruz. https://lookout.co/juror-in-adrian-gonzalez-trial-urge-reform-of-state-bill-that-prevented-him-from-being-charged-as-adult-allows-repeat-chances-for-release/story

    Santa Cruz jury denies release of man convicted of murdering 8-year-old Maddy Middleton. (2025, February 20). ABC7 San Francisco. https://abc7news.com/post/maddy-middleton-death-santa-cruz-jury-denies-release-adrian-gonzalez-man-convicted-murdering-raping-8-year-old-girl/15934976/

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    4 April 2025, 7:00 am
  • 47 minutes 19 seconds
    116: [Victoria Latham] No Legal Precedent // Part 3
    Content warning: fraud and professional abuse.

    As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice.

    Victoria's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/victorialatham
    Oliver Pluff & Co: http://www.oliverpluff.com

    Sources:

    Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M. (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud

    Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction. American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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    28 March 2025, 7:00 am
  • 38 minutes 30 seconds
    115: [Victoria Latham] Who Do I Report This To? // Part 2
    Content warning: fraud and professional abuse.

    As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice.

    Sources:

    Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M. (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud

    Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction. American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
    21 March 2025, 7:00 am
  • 33 minutes 7 seconds
    114: [Victoria Latham] The Balances Kept Rising // Part 1
    Content warning: fraud, professional abuse, child sexual abuse material, and gun violence. 

    Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice. 

    Sources:

    Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M. (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud

    Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction. American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
    14 March 2025, 7:00 am
  • 31 minutes 33 seconds
    113: [Kiersten Hathcock] Shame Heaped Upon Survivors // Part 2
    Content warning: substance abuse disorder, lethal substance consumption, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship.

    As shared in part one of her story, Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised in Ohio, her journey has taken her to many places and through many professional phases. It wasn’t until turning 36 that her trajectory became much more spiritually-based, and she realized she had become re-attuned to an ability she had first experienced as a child. In the process, she would also recover memories of her own childhood sexual abuse. In uncovering her past, as well as many other victims’ untold narratives, she has become an advocate for the voiceless within her work. Since starting her volunteer role as a medium in cold case murders and other related crimes, she has helped bring justice and/or solace to families across the country. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her energy, advocacy, and openness to share, and the listener’s nuanced understanding of Kiersten’s narrative.

    Sources:

    National Institute for Law and Justice: https://nilj.org/
    Kiersten’s website: https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/
    Little Voices: A Memoir https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.html
    Kiersten’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/kierstenhathcock

    For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources. And don't forget to follow Familicide for new episodes and updates.
    7 March 2025, 8:12 am
  • 40 minutes 17 seconds
    112: [Kiersten Hathcock] What I'm Here to Do // Part 1
    Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship.

    Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised in Ohio, her journey has taken her to many places and through many professional phases. It wasn’t until turning 36 that her trajectory became much more spiritually-based, and she realized she had become re-attuned to an ability she had first experienced as a child. In the process, she would also recover memories of her own childhood sexual abuse. In uncovering her past, as well as many other victims’ untold narratives, she has become an advocate for the voiceless within her work. Since starting her volunteer role as a medium in cold case murders and other related crimes, she has helped bring justice and/or solace to families across the country. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her energy, advocacy, and openness to share, and the listener’s nuanced understanding of Kiersten’s narrative. 

    Sources:

    Kiersten’s website: https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/
    Little Voices: A Memoir https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.html
    Kiersten’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/kierstenhathcock

    Chu, J. A., Frey, L. M., Ganzel, B. L., & Matthews, J. A. (1999). Memories of childhood abuse: dissociation, amnesia, and corroboration. The American journal of psychiatry, 156(5), 749–755. https://doi.org/10.1176/ajp.156.5.749

    Loftus, E. F., Garry, M., & Feldman, J. (1994). Forgetting sexual trauma: what does it mean when 38% forget?. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 62(6), 1177–1186. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-006x.62.6.1177

    Williams L. M. (1994). Recall of childhood trauma: a prospective study of women's memories of child sexual abuse. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 62(6), 1167–1176. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-006x.62.6.1167

    Williams L. M. (1995). Recovered memories of abuse in women with documented child sexual victimization histories. Journal of traumatic stress, 8(4), 649–673. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02102893

    For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
    28 February 2025, 8:12 am
  • 36 minutes 23 seconds
    111: [Liz Iacuzzi] Do Not Let It Dim Your Flame
    Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, narcissistic abuse, cultic abuse, cults, and sexual abuse.

    Liz Iacuzzi is an athlete, writer, performer, and personality who focuses  on exploring uncomfortable subject matter through comedy. However, it wasn’t until extricating herself from an acting class-turned-cult that she would eventually discover her next passion: educating the masses about cultic abuse. She does so on her podcast, Was I in a Cult? on which she helps other cult survivors share their stories for awareness. We are so grateful Liz was willing to share her journey with us today, especially because it is one of the first times she’s publicly divulged it at-length.

    Was I in a Cult? Podcast: https://www.wasiinacult.com/
    Was I in a Cult? Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wasiinacult/
    Liz's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/theiacuzzi

    For a list of resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources
    21 February 2025, 8:00 am
  • 30 minutes 4 seconds
    110: [Mike Sacks] Up to Us to Protect // Part 2
    Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse.

    Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors of sexual abuse and assault in their journey of healing, alongside Kelly Gee, whose story has also been featured in What Came Next episodes 51 & 52. But before Mike was able to begin helping others, he had to come to terms with his own abuse and begin healing from his childhood experiences. In these episodes, Mike candidly shares about his struggles, the healing process, and what it’s like traversing the media in an attempt to improve procedures in the athletic world. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mike’s time, energy, and the ability to amplify his efforts towards curating change for athletes around the world.

    Resources:

    Survivors for Change: https://www.survivorsforchange.org/
    Survivors for Change on FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheS4C
    WCN E51: [Kelly Gee] Against Big Odds // Part 1
    WCN E52: [Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2

    For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    Sources:

    Goldberg, R. (2020, May 28). USA Hockey Pres. Jim Smith’s Handling of Alleged Sexual Misconduct Investigated. The Bleacher Report. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2893866

    Illinois General Assembly - Illinois Compiled Statutes. (n.d.). Illinois General Assembly. https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K13-202.2

    Schulte, S. (2017, August 14). Illinois wipes out statute of limitations for child sex abuse. ABC13 Houston. https://abc13.com/illinois-sex-abuse-statute-of-limitations/2310638/

    Strang, K. (2020, February 21). Former players say Chicago area hockey coach sexually abused them. The Athletic. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1591547/2020/02/21/former-players-say-chicago-area-hockey-coach-sexually-abused-them/
    14 February 2025, 8:00 am
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