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At this moment of inflection in technology, co-hosts Elad Gil and Sarah Guo talk to the world's leading AI engineers, researchers and founders about the biggest questions: How far away is AGI? What markets are at risk for disruption? How will commerce, culture, and society change? What’s happening in state-of-the-art in research? “No Priors” is your guide to the AI revolution. Email feedback to [email protected].

  • 31 minutes 18 seconds
    Revolutionizing Customer Success with Agency’s Elias Torres

    Today on No Priors, Sarah sits down with Elias Torres, CEO and founder of Agency, an AI agent for customer success teams. Elias shares his journey from growing up in Nicaragua to founding several companies, leading engineering at HubSpot, and selling Drift for $1B. He also discusses his work consulting with OpenAI in 2022, which deepened his understanding of the business opportunity LLMs presented and inspired him to start Agency. In this episode, Elias offers a unique perspective on the future of AI and customer success, explaining how current software has fallen short and his vision for a new generation where customers have direct relationships, spend less time on tasks, and have software working invisibly on their behalf. They also discuss the evolving landscape of hiring as teams shrink, and Elias reveals his ambitious plan to reach $1B in revenue with fewer than 100 employees.


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    Show notes:

    0:00 Introduction

    0:34 Elias’ journey to entrepreneurship

    2:36 Growing HubSpot to IPO and founding Drift

    6:19 Consulting with OpenAI, learning about LLMs, and diving into AI

    9:35 Founding Agency to focus on customer success and AI-driven solutions

    11:40 What will a customer experience look like in 5 years?

    15:48 Company building in an era of AI, as a 5th time founder

    18:32 Reducing headcount while raising the bar on hiring

    20:35 Key challenges in building Agency and crafting a standout product

    23:06 Addressing software flaws and transitioning to an era of intuitive, self-operating solutions

    26:27 Timeline for the next-gen software revolution + the power of building from first principles

    19 December 2024, 11:00 am
  • 42 minutes 21 seconds
    How Diamond Cooling Could Power the Future of AI, with Akash Systems

    In this episode of No Priors, Sarah sits down with Felix Ejeckam and Ty Mitchell, founders of Akash Systems, a company pioneering diamond-based cooling technology for semiconductors used in space applications and large-scale AI data centers. Felix and Ty discuss how their backgrounds in materials science led them to tackle one of the most pressing challenges in tech today: thermal efficiency and heat management at scale. They explore how Akash is overcoming the limitations of traditional semiconductors and how their innovations could significantly boost AI performance. Felix and Ty also talk about their collaboration with India’s sovereign cloud provider, the importance of strengthening U.S. manufacturing in the AI chip market, and the role Akash Systems could play in advancing satellite technologies.


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    Show Notes:

    0:00 Introduction

    0:30 What is Akash Systems?

    2:12 Felix’s personal path to building Akash Systems

    4:45 Ty’s approach to acquiring customers

    6:40 Challenges of operating in space

    7:54 Live demo on diamond’s conductivity

    9:50 Heat issues in data centers

    15:38 Heat as a fundamental limit to technological progress

    20:44 Akash’s role in the semiconductor market

    22:54 Growing diamonds

    25:10 Collaborating with India’s sovereign cloud provider

    28:15 Importance of American manufacturing for AI chips and outlook on current data capacity 

    29:45 The Chips Act

    31:22 Future of national security lies in satellite and radar tech

    32:46 Critical issues in the U.S. AI supply chain

    36:34 Deep learning’s role in material science discovery

    40:16 The future: AI expanding our possibilities



    12 December 2024, 11:00 am
  • 38 minutes 17 seconds
    Bolt’s Eric Simons on Enabling Everyone to Generate Websites with AI

    In this episode of No Priors, Sarah talks with Eric Simons, co-founder and CEO of StackBlitz. The company has experienced explosive growth since the launch 2 months ago of Bolt.new, an AI application that lets users prompt, run, edit, and deploy full-stack applications directly in the browser. Eric talks about the years-long journey that led to overnight success, why so many non-technical users are forming a community around Bolt, and the democratization of coding.


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    Show Notes:

    0:00 Introduction

    0:36 Bolt.new

    2:04 How Bolt stands out from other coding assistants

    3:28 Building beyond ChatGPT wrappers

    6:13 Driving growth through community

    9:42 Evals

    13:29 Eric’s favorite use cases and startups leveraging Bolt

    17:10 Why engineers are embracing no- code tools

    24:32 The years long journey of StackBlitz

    31:50 Balancing an Ironman, a newborn, and a product launch

    35:18 Predictions for developers and code generation tools

    5 December 2024, 1:04 pm
  • 44 minutes 15 seconds
    Model Plateaus and Enterprise AI Adoption with Cohere's Aidan Gomez

    In this episode of No Priors, Sarah is joined by Aidan Gomez, cofounder and CEO of Cohere. Aidan reflects on his journey to co-authoring the groundbreaking 2017 paper, “Attention is All You Need,” during his internship, and shares his motivations for building Cohere, which delivers AI-powered language models and solutions for businesses. The discussion explores the current state of enterprise AI adoption and Aidan’s advice for companies navigating the build vs. buy decision for AI tools. They also examine the drivers behind the flattening of model improvements and discuss where large language models (LLMs) fall short for predictive tasks. The conversation explores what the market has yet to account for in the rapidly evolving AI ecosystem, as well as Aidan’s personal perspectives on AGI—what it might look like and when it could arrive.


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    Show Notes:

    0:00 Introduction

    0:36 Co-authoring “Attention is all you need”

    2:27 Leaving Google and founding Cohere

    4:04 Cohere’s mission and models

    6:15 Pitfalls of current AI 

    8:14 How enterprises are deploying AI today

    10:58 Build vs. buy strategy for AI tools

    14:37 Barriers to enterprise adoption 

    20:04 Which types of companies should pretrain models?

    24:25 Addressing flaws in open-source models

    25:12 Current and expected progress in scaling laws

    29:54 Advances in multi-step problem solving and reasoning

    32:29  Key drivers behind the flattening curve of model improvements 

    36:25 Exploring AGI

    39:59 Limitations of LLMs

    42:10 What the market has mispriced

    21 November 2024, 11:00 am
  • 39 minutes 21 seconds
    AI and the Future of Math, with DeepMind’s AlphaProof Team

    In this week’s episode of No Priors, Sarah and Elad sit down with the Google DeepMind team behind AlphaProof, Laurent Sartran, Rishi Mehta, and Thomas Hubert. AlphaProof is a new reinforcement learning-based system for formal math reasoning that recently reached a silver-medal standard in solving International Mathematical Olympiad problems. They dive deep into AI and its role in solving complex mathematical problems, featuring insights into AlphaProof and its capabilities. They cover its functionality, unique strengths in reasoning, and the challenges it faces as it scales. The conversation also explores the motivations behind AI in math, practical applications, and how verifiability and human input come into play within a reinforcement learning approach. The DeepMind team shares advice and future perspectives on where math and AI are headed. 


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    Show Notes: 

    0:00 Personal introductions

    2:19 Achieving silver medal in IMO competition

    3:52 How AlphaProof works

    5:56 AlphaProof’s strengths within mathematical reasoning

    8:56 Challenges in scaling AlphaProof

    13:40 Why solve math?

    17:50 Pursuing knowledge versus practical applications

    21:30 Insights on verifying correctness within reinforcement learning

    28:27 How AI could foster more collaboration among mathematicians

    30:28 Surprising insights from AI proof generation

    34:17 Future of math and AI: advice for math enthusiasts and researchers

    14 November 2024, 11:00 am
  • 36 minutes 53 seconds
    NVIDIA's Jensen Huang on AI Chip Design, Scaling Data Centers, and his 10-Year Bets

    In this week’s episode of No Priors, Sarah and Elad sit down with Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA, for the second time to reflect on the company’s extraordinary growth over the past year. Jensen discusses AI’s takeover of datacenters and NVIDIA’s rapid development of x.AI’s supercluster. The conversation also covers Nvidia’s decade-long infrastructure bets, software longevity, and innovations like NVLink. Jensen shares his views on the future of embodied AI, digital employees, and how AI is transforming scientific discovery.

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    Show Notes: 

    00:00 Introduction

    1:22 NVIDIA's 10-year bets

    2:28 Outpacing Moore’s Law

    3:42 Data centers and NVLink

    7:16 Infrastructure flexibility for large-scale training and inference 

    10:40 Building and optimizing data centers 

    13:30 Maintaining software and architecture compatibility 

    15:00 X.AI’s supercluster 

    18:55 Challenges of super scaling data centers

    20:39 AI’s role in chip design 

    22:23 NVIDIA's market cap surge and company evolution 

    27:03 Embodied AI

    28:33 AI employees

    31:25 Impact of AI on science and engineering 

    35:40 Jensen’s personal use of AI tools

    7 November 2024, 11:00 am
  • 35 minutes 36 seconds
    Forecasting the Future with Kalshi: America’s First Regulated Prediction Market

    In this week’s episode of No Priors, Sarah sits down with Tarek Mansour, CEO of Kalshi—the first CFTC-regulated prediction market exchange in the U.S. They dive into Kalshi’s recent victory to legalize election betting, explore ethical questions around trading on elections, and discuss whether prediction markets can offer more accuracy than traditional polls. Tarek shares insights on the history of futures markets, the line between gambling and financial trading, and the psychology behind betting. Plus, Sarah makes a live election bet, and Tarek reveals some of Kalshi’s most intriguing markets.

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    Show Notes: 

    0:00 Introduction

    1:22 Sarah makes a live election bet on Kalshi

    3:35 Getting approved and regulated by CFTC

    5:48 Going up against the CFTC to legalize election betting

    7:21 Debating the ethics of trading on elections

    8:12 Gambling vs. trading 

    9:12 Context and purpose of futures markets

    12:38 The human psychology behind speculating /Humans conditioned to risk taking

    17:17 Building a healthy exchange and scaling liquidity 

    19:30 Introducing leverage and working with clearinghouses

    22:29 Polls vs. prediction markets

    24:59 Conditional markets

    26:38 What makes Kalshi’s markets accurate

    31:29 Tarek’s insights on the most interesting trades and markets on the platform

    31 October 2024, 10:00 am
  • 44 minutes 30 seconds
    Waymo’s Journey to Full Autonomy: AI Breakthroughs, Safety, and Scaling

    In this episode of No Priors, Dmitri Dolgov, Co-CEO of Waymo, joins Sarah and Elad to explore the evolution and advancements of Waymo's self-driving technology from its inception at Google to its current real-world deployment. Dmitri also shares insights into the technological breakthroughs and complexities of achieving full autonomy, the design innovations of Waymo’s sixth generation driverless cars, and the broader applications of Waymo’s advanced technology. They also discuss Waymo's strategic approach to scaling amidst regulation, deployment in cities like Phoenix and San Francisco, and the transformative potential of autonomous driving on car ownership and urban infrastructure.


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    Shownotes:

    00:00 Introduction

    00:15 History of Self-Driving at Google 

    00:29 DARPA Challenges and Early Involvement 

    01:39 Formation of Waymo 

    01:53 Industry Lineage and Early Skepticism 

    03:05 Initial Goals and Milestones 

    4:33 Pivot to Full Autonomy 

    04:50 Scaling and Deployment 

    05:29 Generational Breakthroughs 

    06:59 Choosing Deployment Cities 

    09:26 Technological Advancements 

    11:01 Evaluating Safety 

    14:41 Regulatory Stance and Trust 

    16:52 Future of Autonomous Driving 

    23:19 Business Strategy and Partnerships 

    26:06 Changing Urban Mobility Trends 

    26:40 Challenges and Misconceptions in Self-Driving Timelines 

    28:43 The Role of Traditional OEMs in an Autonomous Future 

    30:54 Designing Cars for Autonomous Ride-Hailing 

    33:42 Scaling Responsibly 

    35:18 Generalizability and Future Applications of AI 

    37:10 The Complexity of Achieving Full Autonomy 

    42:58 The Importance of Data and Iteration in AI Development 

    46:13 Reflecting on the Journey and Future of Waymo


    24 October 2024, 10:00 am
  • 29 minutes 29 seconds
    Gaming, Nobel Prizes and At-Risk Businesses in the AI Era

    In this episode of No Priors, Sarah and Elad explore how AI is transforming consumer apps and entertainment, with a focus on potential integrations in gaming and dating that could shift traditional societal incentives. They reflect on AI researchers winning Nobel Prizes in Science and Chemistry for the first time, discussing what this trend means for scientific discovery. The episode also covers recent AI releases, including their thoughts on OpenAI’s O1 model and Google’s NotebookLM, and examines which companies and job functions are most at risk—or resilient—in the face of AI advancements.


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    Show Notes: 

    (0:00) Introduction

    (0:47) Google releases NotebookLM 

    (5:20) Integrating AI into consumer apps and gaming

    (9:11) Future of AI companionship and procreation

    (14:45) OpenAI o1 model improves on iterative reasoning

    (18:06) Sarah and Elad reflect on Nobel Prizes going to AI researchers

    (21:23) Jobs and businesses at risk of disruption

    (27:18) AI-durable companies



    17 October 2024, 10:00 am
  • 38 minutes 28 seconds
    Launching AI products with Braintrust’s CEO Ankur Goyal

    Today on No Priors, Elad is joined by Ankur Goyal, founder and CEO of Braintrust. Braintrust enables companies like Notion, Airtable, Instacart, Zapier, and Vercel to deploy AI solutions at scale by efficiently evaluating and managing complex, non-deterministic AI applications. Ankur shares his insights into emerging trends in the use of AI tooling and coding languages, the rise of open-source, and the future of data infrastructure. Ankur also reflects on building resilient AI products, his philosophy on coding as a CEO, and the importance of a startup’s initial customer base. 


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    Show Notes: 

    (0:00) Introduction

    (0:38) Ankur’s path to Braintrust

    (3:05) Braintrust’s solution

    (5:46) AI tooling trends 

    (7:58) Instruction tuning vs. fine-tuning

    (8:57) Open-source AI adoption 

    (10:42) Future of data infrastructure and synthetic data

    (14:45) Designing technical interviews

    (18:04) Rethinking agent-based approaches

    (19:34) Building out an AI team

    (23:35) Typescript as the language of AI

    (25:12) The shift away from using frameworks

    (26:02) Vendor consolidation among enterprises 

    (27:16) Coding as a CEO 

    (30:16) Collaborating with customers

    (33:00) Future of Braintrust and evals


    8 October 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 26 minutes 8 seconds
    The Sheriff of Silicon Valley: Lina Khan’s FTC agenda for M&A, AI Acquisitions, and Non-Competes

    Lina Khan’s FTC has been the most active in decades, notably challenging tech giants and adopting a more hands-on approach to regulating the digital age. On today’s episode of No Priors, Lina Khan joins Elad and Sarah to discuss her regulatory philosophy for tech markets and what the industry can expect for future M&A deals. She shares her approach to overseeing emerging technology sectors, including AI at the model layer, and her work to ban non-competes on a federal level. Khan also offers insights into the realities of leading a government agency, the scarcity of young leaders in power, and how she measures the FTC’s impact.


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    Show Notes: 

    (0:00) Introduction

    (0:56) Lina Khan’s background and path to the FTC

    (2:35) Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox

    (4:20) Frameworks for regulating M&A in young markets

    (8:50) Khan’s perspective on AI acquisitions

    (12:18) What founders can expect from Khan’s M&A environment 

    (14:55) Promoting competition at the large model layer

    (17:01) Creating fair AI regulation

    (18:40) FTC’s work to ban non-competes

    (20:31) Why so few young people hold power in government today

    (22:18) The realities of running a government agency

    (24:20) Measuring the impact of FTC

    3 October 2024, 10:00 am
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