In this episode, Hart Lambur and Dan Robinson joined us to discuss interoperability across the Ethereum ecosystem! We dove into ERC-7683, EIP-7702, and Unichain’s future. We also unpacked the process behind creating new standards for Ethereum. Finally, we discussed the crossovers between the solver and searcher markets.

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Resources

Uniswap x Across Protocol: https://x.com/Uniswap/status/1849104961335972078

ERC-7683: https://across.to/blog/ERC-7683-Building-a-Borderless-Ethereum

EIP-7702: https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/blob/master/EIPS/eip-7702.md

Bell Curve Season 6 - The State of DEXs: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6TA5PBj6svs5C6FtG4VMUG7dKmIv0TSN&feature=shared

Bell Curve Season 7 - Modularity: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6TA5PBj6svuFu-1yDzxgZELBGGqXDNzO&feature=shared

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(2:09) Ethereum Technical Challenges and Interoperability Solutions

(12:48) Fuel Ad

(13:42) Developing ERC-7683

(21:58) Proposing New Standards

(31:55) Unichain's Future

(36:50) Ethereum Account Abstraction

(42:46) Does Ethereum Have A UX Problem?

(47:30) Crossovers Between Searchers and Solvers

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Hayden Adams and Hasu joined us to discuss Ethereum’s rollup centric roadmap, and the vision for Unichain. We also dove into priority ordering, MEV taxes, and LP arbitrage. Finally, we ended the episode by unpacking MEV on L2s vs mainnet, TEEs, and potential cons of Ethereum’s rollup centric roadmap.

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Resources

Priority Is All You Need: https://www.paradigm.xyz/2024/06/priority-is-all-you-need

Unichain White Paper: https://docs.unichain.org/whitepaper.pdf

Introducing Rollup-Boost: https://writings.flashbots.net/introducing-rollup-boost

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(1:24) Ethereum's Rollup Centric Rollup

(11:21) The Unichain Vision

(22:14) Priority Ordering, MEV Taxes, and LP Arbitrage

(36:30) Fuel Ad

(37:24) Unichain: Built For A Community, Not Use Cases

(42:23) Full Stack Building In Crypto

(52:58) Who Should Be the Voice of the User?

(55:24) Decision Making at Uniswap

(59:06) MEV On L2s vs L1

(1:04:59) Trusted Execution Environments

(1:15:20) Potential Cons of the Rollup Centric Roadmap

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, the Roundup crew discusses the outcome of the presidential election and its impact on DeFi, crypto’s new regulatory environment, and the positive signs for continued DeFi growth. Additionally, the dive into Polymarket’s success leading up to, and on election day, and their outlook on Polymarket going forward. Finally, they give their thoughts on futarchy and DAO organizational structures.

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Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(2:45) The Election Outcome and Its Impact on DeFi

(11:43) Crypto's New Regulatory Environment

(19:00) Positive Signs For DeFi Growth

(23:55) Index Coop Ad

(25:01) Supra Ad

(25:58) Fuel Ad

(26:52) Polymarket's Big Win

(35:24) Polymarket Volume Post Election

(39:16) Thoughts on Futarchy and DAO Structures

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.tt and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we’re joined by Laurence Day, Co-founder of Wildcat Finance! We discussed undercollateralized lending and RWAs in DeFi, the impacts of capital efficiency and liquidity fragmentation on lending markets, and how privacy comes into play. Finally, we unpacked the primary use cases for Wildcat.

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Resources

Bell Curve Season 1 - The DeFi Credit Boom: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6TA5PBj6svssNaiKjT6TykX56LikLZ-P&feature=shared

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(3:01) The History of Lending in DeFi

(8:04) Undercollateralized Lending and RWAs in Crypto

(16:47) Overview of Wildcat

(23:23) Capital Efficiency and Liquidity Fragmentation

(31:23) Transparency in DeFi Lending

(41:54) Privacy in Onchain Lending

(46:25) Index Coop Ad

(47:31) Supra Ad

(48:27) Fuel Ad

(49:22) Letting Borrowers Dictate Terms

(53:21) Handling Defaults

(55:45) Use Cases For Wildcat

(1:02:52) Small Business Lending

(1:10:40) How DAOs Can Utilize Wildcat

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Michael, Vance, and Mike Ippolito sit down to discuss everything happening in crypto leading up to the election! They dive into Jito Restaking and the synergies across Jito’s product suite, the relationship between Raydium and Pumpfun, and Coinbase’s recent earnings report.

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Resources

Jito Restaking Caps Hit: https://x.com/jito_sol/status/1852018955990278518

Michael Saylor Announces $42B Capital Plan: https://x.com/saylor/status/1851718391889043954

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amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to.

Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(5:52) Glow & Solar Powered DePIN

(20:19) Jito Restaking & Solana's Next Step

(27:35) Index Coop Ad

(28:41) Supra Ad

(29:38) Fuel Ad

(30:32) Raydium and Pumpfun's Relationship

(34:51) Coinbase Earnings and the Growth of Base

(43:47) Retail Onboarding On Coinbase vs Robinhood

(47:38) Michael Saylor Announces $42B Capital Plan

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.tt and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Anatoly Yakovenko and Max Resnick joined us to discuss the concept of Multiple Concurrent Proposers! We unpacked the Proposer Monopoly, implementing MCP, and ordering rules. Additionally, we covered the geographic distribution of proposers, and MCP design tradeoffs. Finally, we asked what is the biggest competitive threat to Ethereum, Solana or its own L2s?

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Resources

Braid: Implementing Multiple Concurrent Block Proposers: https://x.com/danrobinson/status/1820506643739615624

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Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

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Fuel Ignition launches as a high-performance Ethereum L2, running on consumer hardware to combat blockchain centralization. Powered by FuelVM, it offers fast, low-cost transactions with Ethereum and Solana wallet support. Explore our growing ecosystem of DApps for crypto management, DEXs, lending, and more. 

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(2:46) The Proposer Monopoly

(4:48) The Concept of Multiple Concurrent Proposers

(16:39) Implementing MCP

(19:28) Time to Finality with Braid

(22:43) Index Coop Ad

(23:49) Supra Ad

(24:46) Fuel Ad

(25:40) Ordering Rules

(37:43) Geographic Distribution of Proposers

(48:26) MCP Design Tradeoffs

(58:34) Will MCP Get Implemented?

(1:05:13) What is the Biggest Threat to Ethereum?

(1:06:58) Will Solana Face the Same Issues as Ethereum?

(1:11:26) Are Ethereum and Solana Converging on Design?

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Michael, Vance, and Mippo discuss Sky’s potential reversion back to Maker branding, Stripe’s acquisition of Bridge and its implications for the broader stablecoin sector, and Jito’s recent governance proposal introducing rake on MEV tips. Finally, they dive into the sudden rise of AI memes, zkTLS and DECO, and Kraken’s announcement of their upcoming L2, Ink.

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Resources

JIP-8 Adopt TipRouter: https://forum.jito.network/t/jip-8-adopt-tiprouter-ncn-protocol-development/413

Ink Announcement: https://x.com/inkonchain/status/1849443457883885801

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Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

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Visit fuel.network to learn more and start building for tomorrow, today!

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(6:38) The Final Weeks of Election Season

(13:53) Will Sky Revert Back To Maker Branding?

(24:20) Stripes Acquisition of Bridge

(32:56) Index Coop Ad

(34:02) Supra Ad

(34:58) Fuel Ad

(35:53) Jito Introduces Rake On Tips

(43:37) The Rise of AI Memes

(59:21) zkTLS and DECO

(1:01:49) Kraken Announces New L2

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.tt and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Ole Spjeldnæs and Myles O’Neil from Delta joined us to discuss the vision behind Delta’s design, Delta’s state model, and ZK settlement and State Diff Lists. They also dive into how Delta’s leaderless consensus functions. Finally, Ole and Myles gave their thoughts on token value accrual, token supply dynamics, and governance.

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Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas

amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to.

Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

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Fuel Ignition launches as a high-performance Ethereum L2, running on consumer hardware to combat blockchain centralization. Powered by FuelVM, it offers fast, low-cost transactions with Ethereum and Solana wallet support. Explore our growing ecosystem of DApps for crypto management, DEXs, lending, and more. 

Visit fuel.network to learn more and start building for tomorrow, today!

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(4:31) Designing Delta

(14:16) Delta's State Model

(23:19) Consensus, Settlement Assurances, and Time to Finality

(31:06) Supra Ad

(32:02) Index Coop Ad

(33:08) Fuel Ad

(34:03) ZK Settlement and State Diff Lists

(37:28) Delta's Tradeoffs Made

(46:10) Delta's Leaderless Consensus

(49:58) Building New L1s Today

(55:02) Token Value Accrual

(59:58) Token Supply Dynamics

(1:03:17) First and Third Party Infrastructure

(1:08:29) Delta Governance

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Guy Young, Founder of Ethena Labs, and Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex, joined us to discuss token design! Are tokens the product? When does it make sense to return capital to holders? Is regulatory scrutiny keeping founders out of the US? They answered all of these questions, and also dove into topics such as utility tokens vs pure plays, methods of returning value to holders, BNB’s token design, and the impact regulations have on token design. Finally, they closed out the episode by giving their thoughts on token supply dynamics and how they impact price discovery.

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L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s. 

Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas

amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to.

Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

--

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(2:26) Are Tokens the Product?

(7:45) Utility Tokens vs Pure Plays

(13:09) The Line Between Protocols and Apps

(19:51) When Does it Make Sense to Return Capital to Holders?

(27:26) Changing Token Supply

(30:03) Supra Ad

(31:00) Index Coop Ad

(32:06) Methods of Returning Value to Holders

(36:58) Regulations and Their Impact on Token Structures

(43:47) Is Regulatory Scrutiny Keeping Founders Out of the US?

(48:40) BNB's Token Design

(55:39) Token Supply Dynamics

(1:17:56) Apps vs Infrastructure

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Michael Anderson joined us at Permissionless to discuss the launch of Unichain, UNI token value accrual, the app to general purpose chain cycle, and Unichain’s impact on the Uniswap protocol. Additionally, they unpack the US presidential race's impact on the crypto markets. Finally, they dive into the recent claims made about the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

Thanks for tuning in!

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Resources

Uniswap Announces Unichain: https://x.com/Uniswap/status/1844363396382408774

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L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s. 

Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to.

Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(3:58) The Launch of Unichain

(13:14) UNI Token Value Accrual

(15:57) The App to General Purpose Chain Cycle

(20:58) Supra Ad

(21:55) Index Coop Ad

(23:00) Unichain's Impact on the Uniswap Protocol

(25:06) Trump Back in the Lead on Polymarket

(29:23) Is Polymarket Being Gamed?

(32:09) The Presidential Race's Effect on Crypto Markets

(37:25) HBO Documentary Claims Peter Todd is Satoshi

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.tt and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we’re joined by Jon Charbonneau, Co-Founder of DBA to discuss L1 & L2 token value capture! We discussed measuring profitability of tokens, PoS vs PoW value accrual, and whether or not issuance is a cost. Additionally, we unpacked the economics of L2s, and compared them to L1 economics. Finally, we asked ourselves - can anything flip BTC as money?

Thanks for tuning in!

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Resources

L1 & L2 Token Value Capture: https://dba.xyz/l1-l2-token-value-capture/

Uncommon Core 2.0 - Ethereum’s Staking Endgame: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ethereums-staking-endgame/id1517659188?i=1000650123776

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L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s. 

Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to.

Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here.

Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks

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Index Coop's Leverage Suite provides streamlined access to leverage, with built-in liquidation protection and low fees. Non-US users can now trade 2x, 3x and inverse leverage tokens for ETH and BTC on Arbitrum, Base, and Ethereum Mainnet.

Stop overpaying for leverage. Save up to 6x in fees compared to perps: https://indexcoop.com/blockworks-leverage

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Introduction

(2:52) Crypto Networks Are Not Companies

(10:17) Token Holder P&L

(14:52) Are Taxes A Cost For Issuance?

(22:40) Network Sustainability

(25:57) Supra Ad

(26:53) Index Coop Ad

(27:59) How Can We Compare Networks?

(39:04) Understanding Operator Costs

(50:13) Network Metrics to Know

(56:53) Network Valuation Walkthrough

(59:37) Maintaining Network Security

(1:09:18) How Does Token Utility Impact Network Valuations?

(1:17:02) Subsidizing Networks

(1:30:36) Applying REV to Network Valuation Models

(1:40:53) Stages of Network Development

(1:49:16) MEV & Network Fee Durability

(1:57:58) The Monetary vs Cashflow Camps

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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.