With season two winding down, vital information continues to come in. Faced with a tidal wave of innuendo and rumors, Susan and Jacinda fight the temptation to jump to conclusions.

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Their first interview with Tim Fisher left Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin with more questions than answers. Now, better prepared, they are ready to meet with him again and share what they have learned about the case. And the team takes a distressing drive to look for someone who could hold answers to solving the case.

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In Episode 14 of Proof: Did You Find the Real Killer, Eric Greer’s mother shared startling information about her son and why he felt compelled to record a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. But other witnesses did not want to get involved – not back then and not now either. Meanwhile, Jared Conway sent a letter that ties him to an unsolved murder in Tennessee. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick share their thoughts on the episode and answer listener questions.

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Eric Greer was hit by a car and killed months after recording a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. Will finding out more about Eric shed light on what really happened to Renee? And a new letter from Jared Conway could help solve a murder case but still leaves any possible connection to Renee up in the air.

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In addition to answering listener questions, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk about what it was like interviewing Tim Fisher, a witness they hadn’t planned on meeting so soon. And how they quickly realized they needed more information before meeting with him again. The Proof team also shares their frustrations chasing down Jared Conway leads and why they think pursuing that angle is important.

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Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis plunge deeper into the investigation of 18-year-old Renee Ramos’ murder. As they relentlessly pursue leads, a chance phone call during an interview puts them face to face with a potentially important witness they hadn’t anticipated meeting so soon. The Proof Team continues to unravel “alternate” theories that appear farfetched but can’t be ruled out.

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In this week’s Sidebar Susan, Jacinda and Kevin share a disheartening update on where things stand on Lee Clark’s and Joey Watkins’ compensation bills. And they discuss what it was like to interview Josh Burroughs and what it means (or doesn't mean) for Jake’s case.

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Josh Burroughs told detectives a multitude of different stories about what happened the night 18-year-old Renee Ramos was murdered. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis interview Josh Burroughs to see what he remembers now. And the Proof team tries to make sense of how and why Josh Burroughs became the State’s star witness.

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Not all witnesses want to talk, that’s expected. In this week’s Sidebar the hosts discuss the possible reasons why key witnesses decline interviews. But how, sometimes, one throwaway line in the case file can lead you to a witness who has information that could alter the entire course of investigation.

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The Proof Team continues to investigate the murder of Renee Ramos and heads to the Midwest to talk to the third co-defendant in the case. They also hear from key witnesses who were overlooked during the initial investigation. And a chance encounter leads to a new line of investigation.

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Will the real Rapper’s Delight please stand up? Susan's endless hunt for the real Rapper’s Delight continues. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk more about their interview with Victoria and the reasons she thinks Jake and Ty are innocent. And they also discuss their impressions of the jailhouse informant and the consequences of his testimony.

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