"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!
Tony explores the complex dynamics of narcissism and emotional immaturity in a special “Holiday Edition” of the “Death By a Thousand Cuts” series. Through stories shared by listeners, Tony delves into how such behaviors can overshadow festive occasions, creating a lingering emotional toll. He also highlights the importance of awareness and growth, encouraging listeners to participate in healthier, more fulfilling holiday traditions. Featuring a unique narrative inspired by 'Twas the Night Before Christmas,' written by Claude AI, this episode sheds light on the subtleties of narcissistic manipulation and control during what are typically hoped to be seen as celebratory times.
00:00 A Twisted Christmas Tale
02:36 Introduction and Welcome
02:52 Announcements and Updates
04:19 Listener Stories: Holiday Struggles
06:39 Story 1: Control and Manipulation
12:12 Story 2: The Christmas Face
16:34 Story 3: The Dream Trip Conflict
20:35 Story 4: Missing Milestones
27:17 Story 5: Passive Aggressive Holidays
34:22 Story 6: Inappropriate Gifts
36:21 Reflections and Closing Thoughts
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If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
Are you tired of the endless pursuit of perfection? Do you question why your self-esteem seems more tied to others' opinions than your own self-worth? In this transformative episode, Tony explores the crucial difference between self-esteem and self-compassion, drawing from Dr. Kristin Neff's groundbreaking research. Through personal experiences and scientific insights, Tony challenges our cultural obsession with self-esteem, revealing why the constant pressure to be "above average" creates an impossible and unhealthy standard for well-being.
Learn how self-compassion offers a more sustainable path to genuine self-acceptance through its three core components: self-kindness, common humanity, and mindfulness. Tony delves into the fascinating neuroscience behind mindfulness practices, explaining how they physically rewire our brains for greater emotional regulation and self-awareness. Drawing from Viktor Frankl's profound insights as a Holocaust survivor and author of "Man's Search for Meaning," Tony illustrates how finding meaning in our struggles can transform our relationship with ourselves and others.
This episode provides both the scientific framework and practical tools needed to develop self-compassion in daily life. Whether you struggle with perfectionism, find yourself caught in comparison traps, or simply want to develop a more stable sense of self-worth, you'll discover why self-compassion offers all the benefits of high self-esteem without its potential downsides. Join Tony as he shares actionable strategies for transforming your relationship with yourself and finding peace in the simple truth that you're not broken - you're human.
00:00 Introduction and Personal Story
01:46 The Therapist's Dilemma: Hope vs. Reality
04:33 Exploring Self-Esteem and Self-Compassion
07:01 The Impact of Comparison and External Validation
11:02 Value-Based Goal Setting and Radical Acceptance
13:08 Parental Support and Secure Attachment
15:25 Listener Insights on Self-Esteem
16:32 Embracing Self-Compassion
23:22 Seeking Validation and Self-Compassion
24:16 Confessions of an Ultramarathoner
26:18 Accepting Mediocrity in Running
29:19 The Power of Self-Compassion
33:25 Mindfulness and Self-Kindness
35:19 A Personal Podcasting Challenge
39:21 Viktor Frankl's Wisdom on Meaning
45:23 The Journey of Self-Compassion
Tony Overbay, LMFT, explores how seemingly minor slights and manipulations in relationships can accumulate to cause significant emotional harm. Welcome to the 8th installment of Waking Up to Narcissism’s “Death by 1,000 Cuts” series.
In this episode, Tony delves deep into the subtle yet severe world of emotional abuse. Whether you're dealing with a narcissistic partner, emotionally immature family members, or challenging work colleagues, this episode is full of relatable stories and practical advice to help you understand and navigate these treacherous waters.
Tony shares listener-submitted poems and limericks that perfectly capture the pain and frustration of enduring countless small but stinging slights. He also shares personal anecdotes and listener stories to illustrate how these seemingly minor offenses can pile up, causing significant emotional damage over time.
Discover invaluable strategies for maintaining your emotional health, such as self-compassion, differentiating yourself emotionally, and setting healthy boundaries. You'll also learn the importance of documenting behavior patterns and trusting your gut feelings to reclaim your reality and foster your healing journey.
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00:00 Deathbycuts8
07:13 Introduction and Acknowledgements
08:06 Listener Contributions: Poems and Limericks
09:13 Understanding Emotional Cuts in Relationships
09:33 Host Introduction and Podcast Overview
11:36 The Free Throw Analogy: Preparation vs. Real Life
16:44 Applying Relationship Skills in Real Life
24:30 Listener Stories: Death by a Thousand Cuts
31:21 Roommate Frustrations
31:46 Financial Manipulation
32:21 Co-Parenting Conflicts
32:55 Family Event Disruptions
33:43 Emotional Immaturity in Relationships
42:03 Professional Sabotage
45:00 Phone Surveillance
47:08 Achievement Diminishment
48:07 Weaponized Routines
48:45 Financial Manipulation Revisited
50:30 Co-Parenting Undermining
51:09 Recognizing Patterns of Control
54:16 The Importance of Self-Compassion
Ever wonder why a narcissist seems to feed off your emotional pain? Do you find yourself constantly trying to prove your worth in relationships while the other person maintains the upper hand? Tony Overbay, LMFT, discusses the complexities of narcissistic relationships and emotional immaturity. Tony explores concepts like the false self, the one-up, one-down dynamic, and antagonistic attachment styles in depth. He uncovers how narcissistic traits manifest in relationships, causing deep emotional trauma and affecting whole families. Learn about the destructive patterns of predation, competition, and parasitism in narcissistic behavior from the article “Understanding the Narcissists Antagonisitic Attachment Style” by Julie Hall, creator of “The Narcissist Family Files” https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-narcissist-in-your-life/202107/understanding-the-narcissists-antagonistic-attachment-style Tony shares insights on reclaiming your sense of self by recognizing these unhealthy dynamics. Special thanks to Riley Hope for her song 'Not My Job,' which serves as the show's anthem. You find Riley Hope's "Not My Job" streaming information here: https://linktr.ee/rileyhopematlock
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:43 Listener's Question on Narcissism
01:39 Understanding Narcissistic Behavior
04:15 Exploring Narcissistic Relationships
05:26 Antagonistic Attachment Style
15:23 One-Up, One-Down Dynamics
18:56 Real-Life Examples of Narcissistic Patterns
24:17 Introduction to Human Attachment
24:42 Secure vs. Antagonistic Attachment
25:55 Predatory Relationships
29:57 Narcissistic Competition
33:18 Parasitic Dynamics
33:49 Coercion and Control
40:18 The Mask of Narcissism
42:57 The Ripple Effect of Narcissistic Abuse
45:02 Empowerment and Healing
47:54 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
Are you truly living in alignment with your values, or do the expectations of others shape you? How do you begin to define your own character when emotional immaturity and narcissism are at play in your relationships? In this episode, we dive deep into what it means to build a sense of character and integrity—especially for those who may have spent years putting others’ needs above their own. Through stories, reflection, and therapeutic insight, we’ll explore how a pathologically kind person can break free from people-pleasing patterns and begin to understand their true values and beliefs.
Discover how character is not only about the values you hold but also what you’re willing to tolerate or excuse in yourself and others. We’ll unpack David Schnarch’s Four Points of Balance to guide you in building a strong, flexible sense of self, showing how true integrity is about standing steady in your own identity, even when external pressures try to sway you. Join us to learn how you can move beyond external validation, live from your core, and start showing up as your authentic self in all your relationships.
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00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:17 Listener Engagement and Social Media
01:13 Riley Hope's Anthem
01:38 Evander's Story Begins
02:32 The Social Club Dilemma
04:02 Sam's Concerns and Evander's Changes
06:35 Tony's Personal Reflection
11:48 Understanding Integrity and Character
17:51 Tom and Jerry: A Case Study
29:10 Navigating Relationships with Integrity
34:53 Navigating Integrity and Character in Relationships
35:18 Challenges for the Pathologically Kind Person
37:47 Understanding Emotional Immaturity and Narcissism
46:12 Pat and Chris: Real-Life Scenarios
53:31 Breaking Free: Strategies for Pat
01:01:31 Constructing the Crucible for Personal Growth
01:08:46 Final Thoughts on Integrity and Self-Discovery
Tony Overbay, LMFT explores themes of faith journeys, parental expectations, communication, differentiation, and self-discovery through an allegorical story titled 'Off the Beaten Path: Finding Love and Self in a World of Conformity.' The narrative follows a young man named Ansel, who grapples with societal expectations, familial pressures, and his journey toward self-acceptance. Through meaningful encounters and introspection, Ansel learns to embrace his individuality amidst traditional, religious, and cultural norms. This episode also highlights the importance of personal integrity the challenges of navigating faith and family systems, and encourages listeners to explore their unique talents and values. Tony invites the audience to share their stories and questions about their own faith and family journeys for future episodes.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction
01:17 “Not My Job” song by: Riley Hope
02:48 The Power of Writing and Poetry
05:26 Exploring Allegories
06:44 Off the Beaten Path: Ansul's Journey Begins
12:14 Ansul's Struggles and Self-Discovery
16:17 Meeting Maris: A New Connection
17:52 Seeking Guidance: Ansul's Dilemma
18:31 Ansul's Realization and Self-Acceptance
19:00 Building a Relationship with Maris
20:42 Themes of the Allegory: Individuality vs. Conformity
22:32 Exploring Faith and Doubt
22:53 Coming of Age and Self-Discovery
23:30 Truth, Knowledge, and Intergenerational Expectations
25:34 Curiosity, Love, and Acceptance
26:38 Personal Growth Through Discomfort
27:19 Diversity of Thought and Self-Acceptance
29:24 Navigating Difficult Journeys of Faith and Family
31:00 Encouragement for Personal Growth and Authenticity
33:02 Conclusion and Call to Action
If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
Tony Overbay, LMFT, discusses the potentially harmful effects of an article titled “What Is Disarming A Narcissist? 12 Simple Ways To Do So” (https://tinyurl.com/2u8d7sjb) that oversimplifies interactions with narcissists. He distinguishes between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and the broader spectrum of emotional immaturity, emphasizing the small percentage of diagnosed cases of narcissistic personality disorder. Tony critiques the casual and inflated use of the term 'narcissist' and clarifies that real narcissism and emotional immaturity come with significant implications in relationships. He breaks down the common traits of emotional immaturity, such as anger management issues and lack of accountability, and stresses the need to understand one's emotional maturity level. Tony also passionately refutes a technique involving empathy as a means to reach narcissists, highlighting its ineffectiveness and potential harm. This episode provides invaluable insights into protecting oneself from narcissistic abuse, the importance of setting healthy boundaries, and the journey toward emotional growth.
00:00 Introduction to Narcissism and Emotional Immaturity
01:44 Understanding Emotional Immaturity
05:49 The Spectrum of Emotional Maturity
06:55 A Personal Anecdote on Emotional Maturity
11:07 Exploring Empathy and Narcissism
15:45 Critique of Simplistic Solutions for Narcissism
18:52 The Complexity of Narcissistic Relationships
22:55 Ineffective Communication Strategies with Narcissists
25:42 Understanding Narcissistic Supply
27:03 Disarming a Narcissist: Tips and Challenges
29:39 The Complexity of Empathy with Narcissists
33:57 The Path to Differentiation and Self-Care
46:54 Concluding Thoughts on Narcissism
If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
Have you ever opened up to someone, only to have your vulnerability used against you? In this episode of Waking Up to Narcissism, we introduce the concept of the “attack surface”—that uncomfortable dynamic where emotionally immature or narcissistic partners turn your honesty into their weapon of control. We’ll also explore how this need for control originates from emotional immaturity, dive into the origin story of our deep-seated fear of abandonment, and discuss practical ways to develop your emotional maturity. From separating observations from judgments to the 4 Points of Balance in differentiation, this episode offers tools to help you confront unresolved personal issues in relationships with integrity and create healthier, more connected interactions.
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00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:18 Speaking Engagements and Personal Anecdotes
03:13 The Concept of Attack Surface
11:36 Real-Life Example: Alex and Taylor
15:03 Understanding Emotional Immaturity
22:39 Control as a Defense Mechanism
26:57 Origins of Fear and Emotional Abandonment
28:02 Example Scenario: Jamie and Sam
29:09 Sam's Fear and Defensive Reactions
31:00 The Impact of Emotional Immaturity
38:21 Observations vs. Judgments
42:08 Developing Emotional Maturity
45:22 The Four Points of Balance
49:55 Confronting Personal Issues with Integrity
If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
Have you ever felt like you're losing your grip on reality in a relationship? Does your partner's behavior leave you constantly second-guessing yourself? You might be experiencing gaslighting, a form of emotional manipulation that can shake the very foundations of your self-perception. In part 2 of “Gaslighting’s Greatest Hits: The Top Lies You Believed About Yourself”, we dive deep into the murky waters of gaslighting, exploring everything from unintentional mind games to deliberate, narcissistic abuse. Tony unpacks real-life examples of gaslighting in action, decodes the tactics of emotional immaturity, and sheds light on the narcissistic traits that fuel this behavior. You'll learn how to spot the signs of gaslighting, understand its impact on your psyche, and discover strategies to break free from its grip. Whether you're dealing with a 'nice guy' trapped in a cycle of silent suffering or navigating a relationship with an emotionally immature partner, this episode offers invaluable insights and practical advice.
00:00 Introduction and Gaslighting Jokes
00:28 Welcome to Episode 120
00:36 Recap of Previous Gaslighting Episode
02:08 Introduction to Gaslighting Basics
02:31 Understanding Emotional Immaturity
05:26 Types of Gaslighting
05:45 Unaware Gaslighting
16:40 Feeling Like Something's Off
17:15 Marker
20:15 Knowing It's Wrong but Not Seriously Harmful
25:13 Gaslighting Tactics Unveiled
25:44 Emma's Story: A Case of Workplace Gaslighting
28:30 The Nice Guy Syndrome: Tom's Struggle
36:45 The Abusive Partner: Jack and Diane
38:34 Projection: A Deep Dive
42:03 Narcissistic Double Standards
45:45 Recognizing and Reclaiming Your Life
If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
Do you find yourself constantly putting others' needs before your own? Have you ever wondered if being "too kind" could actually be harmful to your relationships and well-being? In today’s crossover episode - Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist, explores the complex concept of pathological kindness in relationships. Through a listener's letter from 'Cleo,' Tony delves into the challenges faced by those who prioritize others' needs to their detriment, often rooted in childhood experiences of being the family peacemaker. Cleo's story highlights issues with her emotionally inconsistent partner, Ray, unveiling the struggles of living with someone emotionally immature or narcissistic. Tony discusses recognizing these patterns, including the role of cognitive dissonance and trauma bonding in maintaining unhealthy relationships. He explores how highly sensitive people (HSPs) may be particularly vulnerable to these dynamics. The episode emphasizes the importance of developing a stable core identity, setting boundaries, and balancing kindness with self-care. Tony also touches on the challenges of breaking free from intermittent reinforcement in relationships and recognizing and trusting one's own perceptions. He stresses the role of therapy and self-awareness in breaking free from unhealthy cycles and fostering emotionally mature relationships while also offering hope to those who recognize themselves as the emotionally immature partner and want to change.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Promotion
01:19 Introducing Cleo's Story
03:16 Cleo's Relationship Struggles
10:38 Understanding Pathological Kindness
16:28 The Impact of Pathological Kindness
21:36 Balancing Kindness and Self-Care
25:09 Exploring Self-Reliance and Its Pitfalls
25:24 The Dual Nature of Optimism
25:40 Understanding Humility and Self-Deprecation
26:26 The Complexities of Honesty
27:09 Patience vs. Passivity
27:24 Competence and Arrogance
28:00 Cleo's Relationship with Ray
29:04 The Struggle of Highly Sensitive People
29:48 The Challenge of Leaving Toxic Relationships
33:23 The Cognitive Dissonance and Trauma Bonding
45:04 The Importance of Self-Care and Boundaries
46:03 Encouragement for Personal Growth
If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
Tony Overbay, LMFT, delivers an emergency bonus episode addressing a heartfelt listener email. The episode discusses cognitive dissonance, gaslighting, emotional abuse, scapegoating, and trauma bonding often experienced in relationships with narcissists. Tony breaks down the listener's experiences, offering insight into their struggles, including emotional manipulations and prolonged emotional trauma. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing these abusive patterns, seeking help from therapists specializing in narcissistic abuse, and prioritizing self-care and self-compassion. The episode revisits key concepts like whole object relations, object constancy, and cognitive dissonance, encouraging listeners to strive for emotional intelligence and balanced relationships.
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:21 Emergency Bonus Episode Announcement
01:14 Reading and Analyzing a Listener's Email
04:25 Understanding Gaslighting and Emotional Abuse
12:08 Cognitive Dissonance in Relationships
16:57 Whole Object Relations and Object Constancy
21:10 Understanding Cognitive Dissonance
21:59 Balancing Good and Bad in Relationships
23:11 Empowerment Through Clarity
24:36 Navigating Emotional Trauma
25:49 The Narcissist's Manipulative Tactics
28:20 Therapy and Emotional Manipulation
31:21 Breaking Free from Trauma Bonds
33:58 Self-Reflection and Sanity
39:03 Seeking Help and Moving Forward
If you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at [email protected] or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
If you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at [email protected] or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
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