Susan Guthrie welcomes Dr. Nadine Macaluso (Dr. Nae), a renowned therapist specializing in trauma healing, to tackle a transformative topic for January, known as “Divorce Month.” As the real-life inspiration for Naomi in The Wolf of Wall Street, Dr. Nae blends her personal journey of escaping a trauma bond with her professional expertise to help you recognize, escape, and heal from toxic relationships.

This episode offers a roadmap for understanding trauma bonds, preparing your exit safely, and embracing a healthier future. Whether you're just beginning to see the dynamics of your relationship or are ready to take your next steps, Dr. Nae’s practical strategies and insights will empower you to reclaim your life.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• How to prepare to leave safely, the importance of having a strategy, and why “never let them see you coming” matters.
• How awareness leads to empowerment by understanding trauma bonds as the first step to breaking them.
• The role of trusted professionals, including therapists, attorneys, and divorce coaches, in assembling your wraparound team.

More About Our Special Guest, Dr. Nadine Macaluso: Affectionately known as Dr. Nae, Dr. Nadine Macaluso is a therapist specializing in trauma healing and personal transformation. Her life inspired the character Naomi Belfort in The Wolf of Wall Street. After overcoming personal challenges, she earned a Master's in counseling and a Ph.D. in somatic psychotherapy. Dr. Macaluso helps individuals recover from trauma bonds, C-PTSD, and shame. She is also the author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing From Trauma Bonds.

Website: https://drnae.com/

Book: Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds 

Download the First Chapter of Dr. Nae’s new book, Run Like Hell: A Therapist’s Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds https://drnae.com/giveawaybook/

Social Media:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/therealdrnadine

http://instagram.com/therealdrnadine

http://facebook.com/drnaelmft

http://youtube.com/TheRealDrNadine

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT:

HEADSPACE

Hello, Divorce & Beyond family! We've teamed up with Headspace to guide you towards better mental health. With Headspace's meditation, mindfulness tools, and mental health support, you're set for a happier, healthier you.

Sign up through our exclusive link for free two weeks of Headspace membership. Don't miss out on this opportunity to embrace well-being.

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YUMIYU Jewelry

YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic.

During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong.

As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount.

Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today!

Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!

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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE!

If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Susan Guthrie sits down with Marc Garelick, a highly sought-after family law litigator, to explore what happens when a divorce case reaches the point where settlement isn’t possible, and litigation becomes the only path forward. While most divorces avoid the courtroom, situations involving high-conflict personalities, contentious custody disputes, or complex financial matters often require judicial intervention.

Marc brings a strategy-focused, results-driven approach to these challenging cases, sharing invaluable insights on how to prepare, what to expect, and how the right team can make all the difference in high-stakes litigation. 

If your case feels stuck or you’re unsure whether litigation is the answer, this episode provides clarity and direction to help you move forward.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Why 95% of divorce cases settle and what makes the other 5% head to court
• The critical importance of strategy in litigation, from evidence preparation to courtroom dynamics
• How to identify when litigation is the necessary next step in your divorce
• Why working with a skilled litigator can make or break your case

More About Our Special Guest, Marc Garelick: Orange County family law attorney Marc H. Garelick has extensive experience in high-conflict custody, child and spousal support, paternity and complex characterization and valuation proceedings in contentious and sophisticated family law matters. He manages the Orange County law firm office in Irvine.

Website: https://www.molmfamlaw.com/

Social Media:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-garelick-2201903/

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• Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.
• Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing.
• Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners.

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• Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond

MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT:

HEADSPACE

Hello, Divorce & Beyond family! We've teamed up with Headspace to guide you towards better mental health. With Headspace's meditation, mindfulness tools, and mental health support, you're set for a happier, healthier you.

Sign up through our exclusive link for free two weeks of Headspace membership. Don't miss out on this opportunity to embrace well-being.

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YUMIYU Jewelry

YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic.

During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong.

As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount.

Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today!

Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!

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If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Susan Guthrie welcomes accomplished attorney Tamara Rowles, creator of the Divorce Wave app, to discuss navigating the complexities of divorce. As we step into January, often recognized as Divorce Month, this episode dives into what you need to know about riding the waves of divorce, starting with day one. 

Tamara introduces vital insights on the initial steps to take when considering a divorce, how to handle the emotions that inevitably come with it, and the tech that can help. Whether you’re contemplating divorce or already in the thick of it, this episode provides actionable advice to help you ride the waves and move toward your beyond.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Why the tone you set on day one of your divorce journey is crucial
• How emotional “waves” impact decision-making and ways to manage them
• The Four Noble Truths of Divorce and their role in personal growth
• Strategic advice on showing up with clarity, integrity, and empowerment
• An overview of the Divorce Wave app and how it supports your journey

More About Our Special Guest, Tamara Rowles: Tamara Rowles, Esq is a licensed attorney, real estate agent, certified mediator, and executive conflict consultant who helps spouses navigate family transitions through her boutique practice Truce Resolutions. She is also the creator and host of the first 24/7 on demand divorce coaching app, Divorce Wave. Tamara is dedicated to helping clients conquer both the legal and emotional challenges of divorce and separation. She "walks the walk" as a collaborative co-parent and mother of two children.

Website: https://divorcewave.com

Exclusive Offer: Listeners can access a special year-long membership to the Divorce Wave app at an exclusive discount. Use code "BEYOND" to get started on your journey with support and guidance designed for every stage of the divorce process. That’s $44.99 for a one-year Founding Membership use code “BEYOND”  (all caps!)

Social Media:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaraesq

http://instagram.com/divorcewave

http://facebook.com/divorcewave

http://instagram.com/tamaraesq

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• Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond

MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:

HEADSPACE

Hello, Divorce & Beyond family! We've teamed up with Headspace to guide you towards better mental health. With Headspace's meditation, mindfulness tools, and mental health support, you're set for a happier, healthier you.

Sign up through our exclusive link for free two weeks of Headspace membership. Don't miss out on this opportunity to embrace well-being.

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PARACHUTE HOME

Going through a divorce is tough, and self-care can easily get overlooked. Something that helped me was creating a cozy space to relax.

I found Parachute Home—bedding and home goods that bring real comfort. Imagine ending your day wrapped in the softest sheets or a warm blanket.

If you're looking to add a bit of peace to your home, visit divorcebeyond.com/parachute. When you shop through my link, it supports the podcast, and I appreciate it.

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If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Susan Guthrie welcomes you to the final episode of our special holiday archive series (new episodes will return in early 2025!)! As we gear up for a fresh start in the New Year, today’s episode is all about embracing hope, joy, and a renewed sense of purpose.

This episode features the world’s #1 Happiness Coach, Steffani LeFevour. Steffani, a best-selling author, international speaker, and master of manifesting, shares powerful insights and actionable strategies for creating happiness—even through life’s toughest moments.

Steffani reveals her three steps to finding happiness, her formula for changing your thoughts, and her secrets to manifesting the life you desire. If you’re looking to step into the New Year with a fresh perspective, positivity, and a clear sense of purpose, this is the episode you don’t want to miss!

What You Will Discover in This Episode:

• Steffani’s three steps to finding happiness
• A powerful formula for changing your thoughts
• Secrets to manifesting the life you want
• Tips for starting the New Year with a renewed sense of joy and purpose

Read this week's Blog Article: 5 Proven Tips to Make Your New Year’s Resolutions Stick

More About Our Special Guest Steffani LeFevour: Steffani LeFevour is the world’s top Happiness Coach, best-selling author, international speaker, and master at manifesting. She is also a student of quantum physics, an amateur biohacker/athlete/wellness guru, and a wife and mother to two crazy kids.  

Her passion is to help women find more daily happiness and custom design a soul-happy life that they’re crazy about. She’s personally crazy about the enneagram, the Byron Katie work, limiting belief work, the law of attraction, manifesting, and creating community.  When we get happy, and healthy and own our soul experience, anything truly is possible.  

Website:

https://myhappilife.com 

Social Media:

http://instagram.com/coachwithsteff

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• Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.
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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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If you're singing "Single Bells" this season or just need some tips on how to take better care of yourself during the holiday rush, this episode is for you! Jenny Stevens, founder of Create Change Consultants, shares insights on how to navigate the challenges of the season and make your holidays the best they can be.

As part of our special holiday archive series, we're resharing this episode to help you navigate the season with strength and resilience. If you're feeling the weight of solitude this holiday season, Jenny's advice will help you create a holiday experience that’s filled with joy, meaning, and self-compassion.

What You Will Discover in This Episode:

• How to handle feelings of loneliness and find joy during the holidays
• Tips for prioritizing self-care and emotional well-being during stressful times
• Practical strategies for making the most of the season on your own terms
• Ways to set boundaries and manage family expectations during holiday gatherings
• Jenny’s advice for cultivating meaningful moments and celebrating yourself

More About Our Special Guest Jenny Stevens: Jenny Stevens is a licensed clinical professional counselor and a Personal and Professional Coach, known for her honest, approachable, and no-nonsense style. With a deep passion for helping others, Jenny empowers her clients to create the changes they've always wanted but didn't have the right roadmap to make happen. Drawing on her extensive background in counseling and coaching, she provides the clarity and tools needed to navigate personal and professional challenges with confidence and ease.

Jenny holds a Master's in Professional Counseling from Argosy Chicago and a B.A. in Health and Fitness Promotion from Texas Christian University. She also completed Mediation Skills Training at Northwestern University and is a licensed Clinical Professional Counselor in the state of Illinois. In 2023, Jenny was honored as a Fellow in Collaborative Divorce, further expanding her expertise in helping individuals through complex life transitions.

With a wealth of experience and a heartfelt commitment to her clients, Jenny is dedicated to helping them achieve lasting transformation and success.

Website:

https://jennystevenscoach.com

Social Media:

http://instagram.com/jennystevens_coach

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

As part of our holiday archive series, we’re revisiting timeless episodes packed with practical tips to make your season less stressful and more joyful.

We’re featuring “Happy Holidays? How Co-Parents Can Avoid Holiday Nightmares” with renowned parenting expert and co-parenting coach Christina McGhee. This episode is full of invaluable advice to help co-parents navigate the holiday season with ease.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• How to set boundaries and manage holiday expectations.
• Collaborate with your co-parent to create a joyful experience for your kids.
• Focus on what truly matters during this often challenging time of year.

Get ready to embrace a more peaceful holiday season with Christina McGhee’s expert insights. 

*** Get the Holiday Cheat Sheet:  Register for the Divorce & Beyond Newsletter and receive a FREE downloadable "Holiday Co-Parenting Cheat Sheet" with all of Christina's Top Tips from the episode. ***

More About Our Special Guest, Christine McGhee: Christina McGhee, MSW, is an internationally recognized divorce parenting expert, speaker, and author.

While splitting up is undeniably hard, Christina believes divorce doesn't have to equal devastation for families. She feels with the right kind of information and support, parents can be a child's absolute best resource when families change.

Throughout her career, she has educated parents and professionals on how to minimize the impact of divorce on children. In her book, PARENTING APART: How separated and divorced parents can raise happy and secure kids,  Christina offers parents valuable strategies for dealing with the "real-life" everyday challenges of co-parenting.

One of her core beliefs is that divorce doesn't make you a bad parent. It makes you a parent going through a bad time.

Because she is passionate about helping parents get through that bad time, Christina also maintains an active coaching practice that allows her to work with Moms and Dads all over the world.

Christina has also leveraged her broad range of experience to create the unique multidisciplinary Co-Parenting Specialist™ Training Program. It teaches divorce professionals how to use a  "child-centered" approach to engage with co-parents more effectively, deepen their understanding of how divorce impacts families, and use that knowledge to help co-parents craft better parenting plans and agreements.  SPECIAL OFFER for D&B Listeners:  Use Code "SUSAN100" and receive $100 off the cost of registration!

Additionally, Christina offers customized trainings for family lawyers, collaborative professionals, divorce coaches, mental health professionals, and mediators designed to be interactive, engaging, and thought-provoking. Her programs focus on creating a comfortable space for practicing essential skills that maximize learning while providing strategies participants can use right away.

As a content creator of quality resources for separating families, she has contributed to several other media projects as a featured expert, a content consultant, and a writer/producer.

Christina serves as the Education and Training Director for the SPLIT Outreach Project, a non-profit organization that produced SPLIT: The EARLY Years and SPLIT UP: The TEEN Years. These two compelling films let kids know they're not alone while normalizing the many feelings and experiences children and teens encounter when parents part. The SPLIT documentaries also provide a powerful experience and a wealth of insight for separating parents and the professionals who work with them.

Website: https://divorceandchildren.com

Book: Parenting Apart: How Separated and Divorced Parents Can Raise Happy and Secure Kids 

Co-Parenting Specialist Program: https://coparentingspecialist.com (Use code "SUSAN100" and receive $100 off the cost of registration!)

Social Media:

https://www.facebook.com/divorceandchildren

https://www.instagram.com/divorceandchildren

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinamcghee

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Feeling the holiday stress while navigating divorce or separation? Susan Guthrie is here to help you find moments of peace and joy with her timeless holiday episodes. This week, she revisits an inspiring conversation with Co-Parenting Coach Lisa McGregor, sharing insights on holiday gift-giving and co-parenting with grace.

In this episode, Lisa shared practical strategies and heartfelt advice on how to help your children celebrate their other parent with a thoughtful gift, even when emotions make it tough. She addressed common co-parenting dilemmas, like what to do if your ex doesn’t reciprocate or refuses to accept gifts. 

Her insights are all about putting your child’s needs first, honoring their connection with both parents and creating positive holiday experiences.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Gift-giving for a co-parent isn’t about you—it’s about supporting your child as they show love and strengthen their relationship with their other parent.
• Addressing the “Yeah, buts” that co-parents often face when navigating gift-giving challenges.
• Exploring the subtle nuances of helping your children celebrate their other parent—or respecting their decision to skip giving a gift.
• Share what you are doing with your kids this holiday season and use the hashtag #Gettingthegift 

More About Our Special Guest, Lisa McGregor: Lisa McGregor is a Co-Parenting Coach who is helping women to embrace their new role of part-time parenting. For nearly two decades, Lisa has been motivating women to help them improve their lives by learning to love their bodies through diet and exercise. The first 17 years of her career were spent in the fitness industry, but after going through a divorce in 2017 and struggling to accept this unplanned chapter of part-time parenting, she felt called to show how she was able to embrace this journey and began to see this adjustment as a gift.  Lisa quickly garnered a community of women who resonated and were ready to use their co-parenting journey as a catalyst to a richer life. Lisa empowers Moms to leverage their time away to turn less into more. Lisa has shared her story on several podcasts & across multiple social media platforms and helps women put it all into action as a Life & Hypno Breath Work Coach. 

Connect with Lisa

Social Media:

http://instagram.com/lisamcgregor.ig

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE!

If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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In this eye-opening episode of Divorce & Beyond, Susan Guthrie welcomes Amanda Singer, a family mediator, California-licensed attorney, CDFA, and founder of West Coast Family Mediation. Together, they explore the complexities of remarrying after divorce, a topic that has surprisingly never been covered on the show before. Whether you're already in a new relationship or still unsure about love after divorce, this conversation is packed with valuable insights that could reshape how you approach your next chapter. 

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Why remarrying after divorce requires unique emotional and financial preparation.
• The critical role of premarital mediation in fostering stronger partnerships.
• How prenuptial agreements can protect your future while building trust.
• Key considerations for blending families, including estate planning and alimony.
• Expert tips for navigating parenting dynamics in a new marriage.

Take the guesswork out of remarrying with Amanda's expert advice!

More About Our Special Guest, Amanda Singer: Amanda D. Singer, Esq., MDR, CDFA® is a professional family mediator and founder of West Coast Family Mediation. She is a California licensed attorney and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst. Amanda leads West Coast Family Mediation’s team of mediators working with clients all throughout California to help families improve communication, solve problems and reach agreements while staying out of court. In addition to divorce mediation, Amanda has a focus and interest on premarital mediation as well as educating and training others on the benefits of premarital mediation. She was the past Vice President of the Academy of Professional Family Mediators and was the awardee of the 2022 APFM Outstanding Professional Family Mediator Award. Amanda lives in San Diego with her Husband, almost 1-year-old daughter, and rescue dog. They enjoy hiking, cooking and traveling.

Website: http://westcoastfamilymediation.com

Social Media:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/west-coast-family-mediation-center/

https://www.instagram.com/westcoast_mediators/

https://www.facebook.com/westcoastfamilymediation

https://x.com/Divorce_CA

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• Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond

MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:

PARACHUTE HOME

Going through a divorce is tough, and self-care can easily get overlooked. Something that helped me was creating a cozy space to relax.

I found Parachute Home—bedding and home goods that bring real comfort. Imagine ending your day wrapped in the softest sheets or a warm blanket.

If you're looking to add a bit of peace to your home, visit divorcebeyond.com/parachute. When you shop through my link, it supports the podcast, and I appreciate it.

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SUSAN’S BOOK: BUILDING THE PRACTICE OF YOUR DREAMS, ONE MONTH OF DAILY TIPS FOR FINDING SUCCESS

Are you looking to build the practice of your dreams? Check out Building the Practice of Your Dreams: One Month of Daily Tips for Finding Success—the book that just hit #1 on the Amazon Kindle bestseller list for law firm marketing! 🎉 At just $4.99, it's packed with practical tips to help you level up. Grab your copy now at neon.ly/biz-book.

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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE!

If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

In this transformative episode of Divorce & Beyond, Susan Guthrie dives deep into the world of holistic healing with special guest Dawn Wiggins, a licensed marriage and family therapist who has reimagined what it means to recover, grow, and thrive. Dawn explains why traditional therapy, while helpful, is often not enough on its own and reveals how her integrative methods address the gaps left by conventional approaches.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Why talk therapy often falls short of creating lasting change.
• The limitations of traditional modalities and how to move beyond them.
• How a holistic, mind-body-spirit approach can unlock true healing.
• The concept of "similar suffering" and its transformative potential in recovery.
• Practical tools to break free from old patterns and embrace a new path forward.

Step Beyond the Couch with us in this powerful episode. Listen now and start your journey to true healing!

More About Our Special Guest, Dawn Wiggins: Divorce recovery coach and therapist Dawn Wiggins helps people tear down their walls and build back their confidence. Challenging the status quo of therapy, she integrates multiple modalities from EMDR Therapy to EFT tapping, immersive journaling, and homeopathy, embracing remedies that heal both the mind and body. She also has her own Podcast, Dear Divorce Diary, which has recently been ranked globally as a top 3% show.

Website: https://mycoachdawn.com/divorce-podcast/

Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/dawnwiggins/

https://www.facebook.com/MyCoachDawn/ 

Special Free Resource for Listeners:

Dawn is offering her exclusive Post-Divorce Roadmap—a 21-day immersive journaling program—for FREE this holiday season! This resource includes:

• Guided journaling prompts to explore and heal.
• Somatic exercises to connect mind and body.
• A curated musical playlist to support balance and growth.
• Recommendations for homeopathic and flower essence remedies.

Download the Post-Divorce Roadmap Here: https://mycoachdawn.com/post-divorce-roadmap/

Use the code EmailFriends when downloading for bonus content!

Make the Most of Your Listening Experience:

If this episode resonates with you, be sure to:

• Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.
• Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing.
• Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners.

Follow Us Online:

• Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com, IG: @divorceandbeyond

MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:

PARACHUTE HOME

Going through a divorce is tough, and self-care can easily get overlooked. Something that helped me was creating a cozy space to relax.

I found Parachute Home—bedding and home goods that bring real comfort. Imagine ending your day wrapped in the softest sheets or a warm blanket.

If you're looking to add a bit of peace to your home, visit divorcebeyond.com/parachute. When you shop through my link, it supports the podcast, and I appreciate it.

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SUSAN’S BOOK: BUILDING THE PRACTICE OF YOUR DREAMS, ONE MONTH OF DAILY TIPS FOR FINDING SUCCESS

Are you looking to build the practice of your dreams? Check out Building the Practice of Your Dreams: One Month of Daily Tips for Finding Success—the book that just hit #1 on the Amazon Kindle bestseller list for law firm marketing! 🎉 At just $4.99, it's packed with practical tips to help you level up. Grab your copy now at neon.ly/biz-book.

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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE!

If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at  [email protected] for pricing and details!!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Susan Guthrie welcomes Karis Nafte, Pet Custody Mediator and Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, to explore the complexities of pet custody in divorce.

With the legal landscape around pets evolving, the topic of pet custody has become increasingly relevant for divorcing couples. Karis, founder of Who Keeps the Dog?, sheds light on the unique challenges of navigating custody for your furry family members and shares insights from her new book, Who Keeps the Dog: Navigating Pet Custody During Divorce.

In this conversation, Karis explains how divorce can impact your beloved pets and provides practical strategies to ensure their well-being throughout the process.

What You'll Hear:

• Why pets are no longer treated as mere property in divorce
• How the changing legal landscape impacts pet custody decisions
• Key considerations for creating a pet custody agreement
• Tips for minimizing stress for your pets during separation

Golden Nuggets:

• “ You can't make the decision on the dog's future based on your hurt feelings or your negative emotions. You're not considering your dog. You're not seeing the situation through their eyes. And that's really hard, but you can do it. The most correct decision for the dog is there, if you dig for it.”
  
  
• “ Your dog will be fine. Dogs are so much more adaptable than we think they are. Don't imagine that your dog will be as upset as you are. I know that's hard to hear. It's harder for us than it is for dogs.”
  
  
• “ How do we look after our pets during divorce where we're really focusing on what's best for the dog? It's hard to do that when emotions do what they do in divorce.”

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About this week's special guest: Karis Nafte

Karis Nafte is the founder of Who Keeps the Dog, Pet Custody Mediation. A Certified Dog Behaviour Consultant & Accredited Family Mediator, she brings 25 years professional experience as a dog behaviour expert into her work of dogs and divorce. A global pioneer in her work, in addition to seeing her own clients, Karis teaches the first accredited pet custody education course for divorce professionals.

An author with a unique background, Karis has presented on the subject pet custody for the American Bar Association, the Association of Professional Family Mediators, The Ontario Association of Family Mediators, The South Africa Association of Mediators, the Kentucky Bar Association, The Multnomah Bar Association, International Mediation Week and many others. Her work has been featured in the Washington Post, the Associated Press, Scripps News, The New York Post, VICE News, ABC News and Australian Dog Lover Magazine.

Karis’ book: Who Keeps the Dog? Navigating Pet Custody During Divorce

Divorce and Beyond Listeners - Enjoy 10% off Karis’ Pet Custody Course. To get this special offer, simply email [email protected] and mention this special Divorce and Beyond promo.

Karis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karis-nafte-cdbc-b4b9b81a6/

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THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:

TURNS OUT PODCAST

Introducing Turns Out..., my brand-new podcast launching in the new year. This show is all about life’s unexpected twists and turns—those aha moments that change everything. From career pivots to personal revelations, we’ll explore the stories that prove life is full of surprises.

Make sure to visit turnsoutpodcast.com and keep an eye out for our launch drop! You won’t want to miss these inspiring stories, and you might even hear some familiar voices.

Stay tuned, and remember, Turns Out... life has so much more in store than we ever imagined!

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PARACHUTE HOME

Going through a divorce is tough, and self-care can easily get overlooked. Something that helped me was creating a cozy space to relax.

I found Parachute Home—bedding and home goods that bring real comfort. Imagine ending your day wrapped in the softest sheets or a warm blanket.

If you're looking to add a bit of peace to your home, visit divorcebeyond.com/parachute. When you shop through my link, it supports the podcast, and I appreciate it.

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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE!  https://divorcebeyond.com/Sponsorship-Info

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, is nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country.  Susan is the Vice Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here:  https://neon.page/susanguthrie

Internationally renowned as one of the leading experts in online mediation, Susan created her Learn to Mediate Online® program and has trained more than 25,000 professionals in how to transition their practice online.  Susan recently partnered with legal and mediation legend, Forrest "Woody" Mosten to create the Mosten Guthrie Academy which provides gold-standard, fully online training for mediation and collaborative professionals at all stages of their careers.  

Follow Susan Guthrie and THE DIVORCE AND BEYOND PODCAST on social media for updates and inside tips and information:

Susan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie/

Susan on Instagram @susanguthrieesq

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We'd really appreciate it if you would give us a 5 Star Rating and tell us what you like about the show in a review - your feedback really matters to us! 

You can get in touch with Susan at [email protected]. 

Don't forget to visit the webpage www.divorceandbeyondpod.com and sign up for the free NEWSLETTER to receive a special welcome video from Susan and more!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Selling or buying a home during a divorce? Susan Guthrie brings in expert realtor Kathy Clark to shed light on the real estate journey for divorcing couples. With 13 years of experience in Southern California’s mortgage and real estate industry, Kathy shares essential strategies for navigating property sales, avoiding common pitfalls, and setting yourself up for a successful transition into your next home. 

Kathy’s insights will help you avoid unnecessary stress and find the right realtor to guide you through mastering the real estate side of the divorce process.

Featured Topics:

• The unique challenges of selling a home during a divorce, including differing goals with your soon-to-be-ex and when to consider selling
• How to find a realtor who genuinely understands divorce and real estate—questions to ask before signing on with anyone
• The ins and outs of realtor commissions and what to expect in today’s market
• Common mistakes divorcing individuals make when buying a new home—and how to avoid them
• Disclosure dilemmas: What to share (or not) with realtors and buyers about your divorce

Golden nuggets:

• “Everything has a value and everything has a cost. I encourage people to go into it open-minded and make sure their agent knows what they need.”
• “We have a fiduciary responsibility not to share what you don't want to be shared. You tell us ‘It's fine. Go ahead. It's amicable.’ There's got to be an expectation of how you're going to do things. I don't think it serves you well to disclose to everyone that there is a divorce. But I also don't think that you can hide it.”
• “Every house is not the same. Finding the right realtor who has the expertise in your particular home is something worth spending a little bit of time on.”

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About this week's special guest: Kathy Clark

Kathy Clark is a long-time Orange County resident with a passion, and career that has been centered on the Southern California Real Estate Industry. First as a homeowner, then investor, both experiences lead her to explore home lending opportunities. With over 13 years in the mortgage industry, Kathy understands the real estate cycles and has adapted to the changing real estate and lending environments. This wisdom allows Kathy to strategize and structure a transaction in a way that allows her clients to meet their real estate needs and portfolio requirements. 

Kathy’s experience in the mortgage industry sets her apart with a deep understanding of all facets of the real estate market. As a seasoned broker who has helped clients with numerous “out-of-the-box” purchase transactions, Kathy is committed to presenting the best options to her clients. 

Contact Kathy:

Website: https://harcourtsna.com/Blue-Water/agents/Kathy-Clark-Brenna-Van-Hoogenstyn

Phone: (949) 283-2833

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-clark-707a29133/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KathyClarkRealtor

Also mentioned in this episode:
Mortgage Must-Knows for Divorce from Tami Wollensak, CDLP

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THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:

SOBERLINK

As a family law attorney, I’ve seen firsthand how difficult it can be to navigate co-parenting when alcohol is involved, especially around the holidays.

Soberlink is a breathalyzer that ensures your co-parent is staying sober while they have the kids, which is especially important during this time of year, when alcohol can be present at so many gatherings.

Here’s how it works: Your co-parent will test at scheduled times throughout the day. The portable device uses facial recognition to confirm it’s really them taking the test, and tamper sensors ensure the results are accurate. Those results are sent directly to your phone or email in real-time, so you’ll always know that your kids are with a sober parent.

Soberlink is trusted by family law professionals for a reason. It’s the top alcohol monitoring system, and its court-admissible data can make all the difference in custody situations.

If you’re looking for more certainty and safety this holiday season, visit www.soberlink.com/susan to learn more and get $50 off your device.

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PARACHUTE HOME

Going through a divorce is tough, and self-care can easily get overlooked. Something that helped me was creating a cozy space to relax.

I found Parachute Home—bedding and home goods that bring real comfort. Imagine ending your day wrapped in the softest sheets or a warm blanket.

If you're looking to add a bit of peace to your home, visit divorcebeyond.com/parachute. When you shop through my link, it supports the podcast, and I appreciate it.

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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE!  https://divorcebeyond.com/Sponsorship-Info

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, is nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country.  Susan is the Vice Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here:  https://neon.page/susanguthrie

Internationally renowned as one of the leading experts in online mediation, Susan created her Learn to Mediate Online® program and has trained more than 25,000 professionals in how to transition their practice online.  Susan recently partnered with legal and mediation legend, Forrest "Woody" Mosten to create the Mosten Guthrie Academy which provides gold-standard, fully online training for mediation and collaborative professionals at all stages of their careers.  

Follow Susan Guthrie and THE DIVORCE AND BEYOND PODCAST on social media for updates and inside tips and information:

Susan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie/

Susan on Instagram @susanguthrieesq

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We'd really appreciate it if you would give us a 5 Star Rating and tell us what you like about the show in a review - your feedback really matters to us! 

You can get in touch with Susan at [email protected]. 

Don't forget to visit the webpage www.divorceandbeyondpod.com and sign up for the free NEWSLETTER to receive a special welcome video from Susan and more!!

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DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.