The Hearing – A Legal Podcast

Thomson Reuters

The Hearing is a legal podcast from Thomson Reuters. Listen to insightful discussions with interesting people who have a connection to the law. We delve into anything and everything – trailblazers within the industry, the latest insights in legal innovation, and we explore how the profession is evolving. We also produce a regular spin-off called The Cross-Examination. These are documentary episodes where we do a deep dive into current issues and examine them through a legal lens. Find out more at tr.com/TheHearing

  • 54 minutes 33 seconds
    EP. 165 – Matthew Campbell (Native American Rights Fund)
    Native Americans are fighting for their legal rights across many important fronts in the US. In this episode, Janelle Wrigley speaks with Matthew Campbell, Deputy Director of the Native American Rights Fund, about NARF's legal and advocacy work.

    Matthew and Janelle's wide-ranging discussion covers issues such as voting rights, the protection of places that are sacred to tribal nations, and access to natural resources. They also discuss the sovereignty of tribal nations, their relationship with the US government, and the challenges of ensuring access to voting.
    16 December 2024, 10:30 am
  • 36 minutes 34 seconds
    EP. 164 – Lucie Allen (BARBRI)
    "The legal profession is going through significant transformation, and I thought that was a wonderful thing to try and grab with both hands and see what role or part I could play in making that a success," shares this week's guest, Lucie Allen.

    For this episode, Lucie Allen, the managing director of the legal education platform BARBRI, sits down with host Yasmin to offer her unique insights on the evolving landscape of legal career development and her experiences on becoming a voice in the industry.

    They discuss challenges posed by the new legal qualification standards (the SQE), vulnerable conversations started by sharing on social media, and the growing need for legal professionals to cultivate skills like resilience, adaptability, and effective communication to thrive in a rapidly changing industry. They also discuss Lucie’s unplanned venture into the role of menopause warrior.

    Listen to Yasmin's conversation with Lucie for more on this topic and on the evolution of the legal professional's development path and her personal journey.
    2 December 2024, 10:30 am
  • 54 minutes 26 seconds
    EP. 163 – Terah Shelton Harris (heir property)
    "From 1910 to 1997, Black Americans have lost 90 percent of farmland to heir property. The Department of Agriculture has deemed it the worst problem that you've never heard of." These are just two of the staggering facts we've learned about heir property from writer and author Terah Shelton Harris.

    Terah chats with new host Tenee' Frazier about her recent novel, Long After We Are Gone. It's about a family trying to save their ancestral land from being taken from them – shining a light on the damaging effects of heir property. She explains what heir property is, the detrimental effects it has on property ownership in African American communities, and the steps heirs should take to avoid land loss. Terah also shares her journey to becoming an author and the life events that helped shape her writing style.
    18 November 2024, 10:30 am
  • 48 minutes 51 seconds
    EP. 162 – Jury nullification in the UK (Richard Vogler, University of Sussex)
    "Mind your privilege, give not away your right!" With those words, William Penn urged the jurors in his 1670 religious freedom trial to remember the power and the responsibility of their role in the English judicial system. For this episode, we return to the topic of jury nullification – the power of juries to acquit despite evidence of the defendant's guilt – with a fresh take from the UK.

    Professor Richard Vogler of the University of Sussex chats with host Becky Annison about the role of jury nullification, going all the way back to William Penn's trial in the 17th century up to its relevance in climate change cases of today. They discuss why legal institutions began viewing juries with more suspicion from the 1970s, and why it’s more important than ever to defend the jury's place within our legal system – including its power to nullify convictions.

    For more on this topic, listen to Janelle Wrigley’s conversation with Glenn Reynolds, from the University of Tennessee, about jury nullification in the US (ep.159) – https://pod.fo/e/269d1a.
    4 November 2024, 10:30 am
  • 47 minutes 9 seconds
    EP. 161 – Garrard Beeney (Sullivan & Cromwell)
    Content warning: This episode discusses sexual violence, domestic violence, and criminalized survivorship. If you or anyone you know needs help, please safely contact one of the organizations in our show notes.

    To mark Domestic Violence Awareness Month, Jenn sits down with Garrard Beeney to discuss his pro bono representation of Nicole "Nikki" Addimando and the issue of criminalized survivorship.

    Garrard shares Nikki's story, which includes enduring years of repeated physical and sexual abuse by her domestic partner, Christopher Grover, who was also the father of her two young children. Events led to her fatally shooting him. But, as Garrard explains, "the abuse that Nikki suffered at the hands of Grover was then repeated in the criminal justice system."

    Garrard reveals how and why he and his firm got involved with Nikki's appeal. You'll hear about the legal arguments and uphill battle to free Nikki, culminating in the appellate court's rejection of the trial court's "antiquated impressions of how domestic violence survivors should behave."

    SHOW NOTES:

    US National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-7233 or www.thehotline.org

    UK National Domestic Abuse Helpline: 0808 2000 247 or www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk

    Sanctuary for Families: www.sanctuaryforfamilies.org

    We Stand With Nikki: www.westandwithnikki.com
    14 October 2024, 9:30 am
  • 45 minutes 52 seconds
    EP. 160 – Bibi Badejo (The Advocacy Coach)
    In this episode, Yasmin Sheikh interviews Bibi Badejo – a family law barrister at Four Brick Court chambers, in London, and an advocacy coach.

    Bibi recounts her journey into law and how she pursued advocacy despite an initial fear of public speaking and a hefty dose of imposter syndrome. These challenges early in her career motivated Bibi to improve her skills through extensive training in the UK, the US and Australia. And she is now an accomplished advocacy coach in her own right, as well the founder and host of The Advocacy Podcast.

    This episode is rich with insights and practical tips for anyone interested improving their public speaking. Yasmin and Bibi also discuss the value of mentors and coaches, the emotional challenges of family law, and the evolving legal landscape – especially in addressing domestic abuse.

    You can listen to The Advocacy Podcast here: https://podfollow.com/1547600021
    30 September 2024, 9:30 am
  • 41 minutes 34 seconds
    EP. 159 – Jury nullification in the US (Glenn Reynolds, University of Tennessee College of Law)
    Imagine you are a juror in a criminal trial. The evidence is overwhelming that the defendant is guilty. But you can’t shake the feeling that it would be unjust to convict. Maybe you don’t believe what the defendant did should be treated as a crime. Or maybe you simply believe the defendant deserves mercy. Can you vote to acquit, or must you vote according to the evidence?

    It turns out that, in the US and the UK, jurors do have the power to acquit, even if they believe a defendant committed the charged crime. This is known as jury nullification.

    In this episode, host Janelle Wrigley chats with Professor Glenn Reynolds from the University of Tennessee College of Law. They discuss the history of jury nullification in the US, the role of the jury, and the debate on whether jurors should be told they have the power to nullify if they believe a conviction would be unjust.
    16 September 2024, 9:30 am
  • 35 minutes 12 seconds
    EP. 158 – Giles Bristow (Surfers Against Sewage)
    In the UK you’ll find spectacular beaches and rivers, a nation of wild swimmers and water lovers… and a big pollution problem! Untreated sewage, chemicals and plastic waste are creating a worsening toxic soup. Surfers Against Sewage (https://www.sas.org.uk) has been fighting back for over 30 years – through public campaigns, education programmes and, more recently, an app that lets you check the health status of your favourite swim, surf or sail spot.


    In this episode, Becky Annison chats to Surfers Against Sewage CEO (and former lawyer) Giles Bristow about the environmental crisis affecting our beaches, rivers, lakes and ponds. The pair also discuss the need for accountability by polluters and water companies, the charity’s goals and how it all began.
    2 September 2024, 9:30 am
  • 54 minutes 17 seconds
    EP. 157 – Bryan Garner (Black's Law Dictionary)
    Following the recent release of the 12th Edition of Black's Law Dictionary, The Hearing is privileged to welcome its Editor-in-Chief, Bryan Garner, to the show. And to be honest, we're a bit nervous to write this description of our conversation with this esteemed grammarian, lexicographer, and lawyer!

    You don't hear about fourth graders naming "shan't" as a contraction or teenagers amassing a large vocabulary to impress potential dates. And we don't know about you, but we were too busy staying afloat the first week of law school to begin working on a legal dictionary – and still too busy during our clerkship to see it through to publication. But none of us is Bryan Garner.

    Bryan chats with Jennifer about his long-time love of linguistics and the obstacles he overcame – from unsupportive professors, uninterested publishers, uncongenial colleagues, and scarce funds – to pursue his passion and strike out on his own. Bryan also pulls back the curtain on the process of editing and updating Black's – and invites you to be a part of it!

    To learn more about Bryan Garner, visit https://lawprose.org/bryan-garner/.
    19 August 2024, 9:30 am
  • 31 minutes 46 seconds
    EP. 156 – Shaun Wallace (The Chase)
    At 15 years old, Shaun Wallace was told that he would most likely end up in prison. Instead, he became a barrister and a TV personality famous for his knowledge mastery – first as a champion of the BBC quiz show Mastermind, and since 2009 as one of the chasers (professional quizzers) on UK television show The Chase.

    In this episode, Shaun chats with Yasmin Sheikh about how his love of law, learning, and football led to a career in law and on television, and the setbacks he has overcome along the way.
    5 August 2024, 9:30 am
  • 37 minutes 16 seconds
    EP. 155 – Aika Stephenson (Just For Kids Law)
    This episode explores the heart-wrenching subject of youth justice. Guest Aika Stephenson is the founder of Just For Kids Law, a UK charity that represents and advocates for children in contact with the criminal justice system. She’s also the author of In Their Defence: Fighting for Youth Justice One Child at a Time (https://www.mombooks.com/book/in-their-defence/).

    Join host Janelle as she chats with Aika about the extraordinary cases she’s dealt with in her career and how her own background led her to become an advocate for children. Aika provides eye-opening insight on the failures that she has witnessed in the legal system, from the police station to the courtroom, and the impact this has on children and young people.

    If you’re interested to hear more about youth justice advocacy, check out episode 22 with Aika's colleague Shauneen Lambe: [https://pod.fo/e/1a42f]
    22 July 2024, 9:30 am
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