So this is it. After 4 years and 76 episodes, we have recorded our final episode. Thankfully, we were able to close out the show with Jay returning for the final episode to join Sara and me.

The first segment focuses on why I am leaving Winging it in Motown after five years, and mostly, why I decided to end the podcast. We talked about the recent horrible events in NHL news that have made me feel this way, and Jay and Sara shared their thoughts about it all.

We wanted the majority of the show to be fun, though! So the second segment is a look back on our favorite moments from the four years of doing the show.

The third segment features a few mailbag questions that we sort of answered, but had a lot of fun with. Then we closed out with one final game. I hope you enjoy playing along with Jay and Sara as they try to determine which questions are shocking moments in video game history and which ones I made up in the game “The Shock and the Spurious.”

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

Thank you to JJ for encouraging me to start a podcast, Jay for being an amazing co-creator and co-host, Sara for taking the reins when Jay left and doing an amazing job, and our listeners for listening over the years.

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Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We will keep that up so you can continue to buy merch if you want to.

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Back for another season are Dylan Galloway, the head scout for Eastern Canada for Future Considerations and Will, who runs the highly acclaimed draft site Scouching.

We talked about a wide range of draft related topics, both related to Detroit and the rest of the league.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

If it’s not showing up on your podcast app, try adding this feed url to your app manually: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/winging-it-in-motown

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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Chris Watkins joined us to discuss the end of the NHL season, the sexual assault and coverup allegations in Chicago, as well as other hockey topics. We also answered some mailbag questions in a segment that went way over the time we budgeted for it!

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

If it’s not showing up on your podcast app, try adding this feed url to your app manually: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/winging-it-in-motown

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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For this episode, we have Laura Saba joining us to talk all things Canadiens. We got to some of your mailbag questions, and for those of you who follow Sara on Twitter, we got the latest on the saga of Stevie "The Killer" Yzercat.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

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Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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We are now using Zoom to record, and we have been recording our own audio as well, but this time, I’m just using the Zoom tracks, and it sound pretty similar. Please excuse my blown out voice in the beginning, I accidentally had the automatic level control set for my microphone, and it started way too hot.

Here’s what we have for you this time (all time locations are without the ads because they are put in after we upload the episode)

00:00 - Patrick Marleau broke the record for games played. What do we think of that? Will he be in the Hall of Fame? Should he be?

24:20 - We talk to our amazing guest Shayna Goldman about a lot of stuff, some of it even hockey related. We talk a little about what it is to cover an organization that has some lottery luck, how hard it is to evaluate prospects, and even crazy flavors of Oreos. Plus, we finish with a game!

58:56 - Robin Lehner spoke out about frustrations with the COVID restrictions in the NHL and how it impacts players with mental health issues. We talk through the multiple issues at play in the discussion that surrounds his comments.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

If it’s not showing up on your podcast app, try adding this feed url to your app manually: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/winging-it-in-motown

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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Here’s what we have for you this time (all time locations are without the ads because they are put in after we upload the episode)

00:00 - We talk a little about the Red Wings play of late and we take a look at how the playoff races are shaping up in the East.

23:16 - Our guest Prashanth Iyer joins us to talk about why he doesn’t get worked up over Jeff Blashill, why the eye test can fail us, and a lot of other topics.

51:39 - We wrap up the show by looking at how the Western conference playoff races are looking.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

If it’s not showing up on your podcast app, try adding this feed url to your app manually: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/winging-it-in-motown

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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We had an audio glitch around the 6 minute mark, and I had to use a small section of the backup audio.

Here’s what we have for you this time (all time locations are without the ads because they are put in after we upload the episode)

00:00 - Introduction to our guest, who covers Nashville for On the Forecheck. We talk about Nashville's terrible season so far, as well as the lottery system proposed changes

23:40 - Finishing the discussion of the lottery. ESPN is going to be showing the NHL next season, and we talk about how we feel about that.

46:24 - Wrapping up the discussion on ESPN and watching hockey. We have to talk at least a little bit about suspensions and NHL on-ice discipline, which is a dumpster fire as always. We wrap up with some positive thoughts!

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

If it’s not showing up on your podcast app, try adding this feed url to your app manually: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/winging-it-in-motown

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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On this episode of Fer Sure, we have a major change to the show. If you haven't heard already, Jay is not able to continue as co-host. He has been such a major part of the creation and growth of the show, so he will be deeply missed. But luckily, former guest co-host Sara is joining as permanent co-host.

Here’s what we have for you this time (all time locations are without the ads because they are put in after we upload the episode)

00:00 - A little about the personnel changes to the show. We introduce special guest Pat Iversen, who will be with us all episode. We talk about when players you hate join your team, what's going on with Dallas this season.

26:10 - Continue reader questions (I forgot about leaving time for the breaks and had to put them in after :) Dungeons and Dragons (Pat is a player in my weekly group.) A terrible "study" about hockey fans.

53:35 - We answer the one question about Detroit and play a little game where we plan a heist using NHL teams.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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On this episode of Fer Sure, we don’t have a guest, but Jay is back!

Here’s what we have for you this time (all time locations are without the ads because they are put in after we upload the episode)

00:00 - So the NHL has a return to play protocol. We talk about why it’s likely not going to work.

19:55 - Also, the NHL has announced how the lottery is going to work. We’re not fans. But we do talk about the crazy playoffs scenarios.

47:05 - There’s obviously a lot of things going on right now other than hockey. We talk about what we’ve been up to.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

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Welcome to the latest edition of WIIM Radio! For this episode, Kyle is your host along with Sara and Prashanth.

Here’s what they got up to, including time stamps (Time stamps don’t include the advertisements because we have no control over how long the ad breaks are):

00:00 - NHL Season Status

19:41 - What-Ifs: Lemieux/Draper, Bure, Hossa, etc

42:57 - Reader Questions

You can listen via the embedded player above or download on your favorite podcasting app, including Spotify! We can also send it directly to your brain, provided you have that brain chip that you could have got—oh no, I said too much

As always, WIIM Radio is rated R for language and conducting mail fraud through carrier pigeon.

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On this episode of Fer Sure, we talk to Andrew Thomas, who in addition to being a former professor at Carnegie Mellon, co-founder of seminal hockey stats site War On Ice, and an analyst for the Minnesota Wild, was on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

Jay is still swamped with work, but Sara joins again as co-host, and even gets to play a game against a trivia heavyweight!

Here’s what we have for you this time (all time locations are without the ads because they are put in after we upload the episode)

00:00:00 - Intros, Andrew’s time with Minnesota and experience in the world of hockey stats

00:16:01 - Who wants to talk about Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? We did. We also talk about trivia in general, and Andrew’s presentation on how to prepare for Jeopardy.

00:36:56 - “If You’re Not in Third Position, You Might Miss the Playoffs.” I put together a game based on Andrew’s viral dancing chops on Millionaire. They have to guess if a name is a ballet dancer from a Russian Ballet Company or a member of the 2010 U-18 Russian Hockey Team. Of course Sara thought of the name “Plie-r or Player” after, which is annoying because it’s clearly better.

If you are using a podcast app, you can find both this podcast and WIIM Radio (our podcast devoted to the Red Wings) in the same channel - Winging it in Motown. As of right now, you can’t find it on Google Play, but an app like Stitcher should work if you use an Android device for your podcast listening. Also, you can now find us on Spotify! Search for Winging it in Motown.

Here is the link to our merchandise store. You can get Fer Sure t-shirts in a variety of colors and styles, hoodies, notebooks, stickers, and much more. We also recently launched a Facebook page, through which we hope to increase our fan interaction. You can find that here.

Here are Andrews slides from his RITSAC presentation we discuss. You can access the video of his presentation here.

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