The Defiant - DeFi Podcast

Camila Russo

The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

  • 54 minutes 33 seconds
    Sam Kazemian on FraxUSD and the Future of Stablecoins in Decentralized Finance

    Sam Kazemian, founder of Frax Finance, outlined the development and goals of FraxUSD, a decentralized stablecoin designed to integrate with both traditional finance and decentralized ecosystems. The upgraded FraxUSD offers redeemability through custodians like BlackRock and SuperState while providing competitive yields through diversified strategies. Kazemian described Frax’s broader vision as building a digital economy anchored by its flagship stablecoin and Fraxstool, a high-performance Ethereum Layer 2.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction

    00:48 - Founding Story and Differentiation of Frax

    02:01 - Vision for Decentralized Stablecoins

    02:41 - Features of FraxUSD

    08:51 - Best of Both Worlds Design for FraxUSD

    13:08 - Future of Stablecoins

    23:05 - Yield Strategy of FraxUSD

    34:16 - FraxUSD in Real World and On-Chain Usage

    42:02 - Stablecoins as the Gateway to Crypto

    47:12 - Roadmap and Future of Frax


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    20 January 2025, 5:05 pm
  • 1 hour 12 minutes
    Magic Eden’s Vision: On-Chain Trading, $ME Token, and the Next Airdrop | Zhuoxun Yin, Co-Founder

    Zhouxun Yin, the Co-Founder of Magic Eden, joins The Defiant Podcast to discuss the evolution of one of the largest NFT marketplaces. In this episode, he shares the story behind Magic Eden’s founding, their decision to focus on Solana early on, and their multi-chain expansion strategy. Z dives into the challenges of navigating the bear market, enforcing royalties, and launching a token to unite their ecosystem. He also explores the future of NFTs, their integration with AI, and Magic Eden's ambitious shift toward becoming an all-encompassing on-chain trading platform.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction

    00:30 - Founding Magic Eden

    03:40 - Surviving FTX and Solana’s Challenges

    07:20 - Navigating the NFT Bear Market

    12:00 - The Bitcoin Ordinals Bet

    16:00 - Multi-Chain Expansion

    24:30 - Launching the $ME Token

    32:00 - Addressing Airdrop Challenges

    46:50 - The Royalty Debate

    54:10 - Long-Term Vision for NFTs

    01:03:00 - On-Chain Trading and Future Goals

    01:10:35 - Closing Thoughts


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    13 January 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Scroll's Path Forward Amid Airdrop Controversy: Sandy Peng on the Scroll Open Initiative

    Sandy Peng, co-founder of Scroll, tells us the journey of building one of the most anticipated Ethereum Layer 2s, their focus on ZK rollups for scalability, and the unique value proposition of high security, decentralization, and low costs. Sandy discusses Scroll's transition from general purpose chain design to supporting specific use cases driven by ecosystem builders and founders. They explore challenges and lessons from Scroll's recent token airdrop, emphasizing the importance of clear communication, equitable distribution, and fostering a vibrant community. Sandy highlights the Scroll Open initiative and their long-term vision to create a thriving "city" for innovation and talent in the blockchain space.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Sandy Peng on Scroll's Rise

    00:30 - Scroll’s Evolution and 2025 Vision

    01:30 - The Founding Story of Scroll

    02:30 - Why ZK Rollups?

    04:00 - Scroll's Unique Edge in the L2 Space

    07:00 - Transition to Use Case-Specific Chains

    09:00 - Scroll's Vision for Builders and Founders

    11:00 - Sub-Cent Costs and High Security Explained

    15:00 - Decentralization: Scroll’s Progress and Plans

    20:00 - Governance and the Role of Scroll Tokens

    25:00 - Airdrop Lessons and Community Feedback

    35:00 - Reflections on Token Distribution Trends

    46:00 - Layer 2s and Ethereum’s Value Narrative

    50:00 - Scroll Open: Building the Future Economy

    58:00 - Scroll's Big Picture Vision


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    6 January 2025, 5:05 pm
  • 46 minutes 26 seconds
    Robinhood Crypto's Roadmap: Johann Kerbrat on Expansion, Staking, and Blockchain Integration

    Johann Kerbrat is the Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, leading the charge in bringing crypto to millions of retail investors. In this episode, Johann shares the journey of Robinhood Crypto, from its early days of launching in 2018 to its recent innovations, including staking, self-custody wallets, and a potential shift towards a full-fledged crypto exchange. He discusses how Robinhood is leveraging blockchain to enhance efficiency, lower costs, and expand access to financial instruments.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction

    00:14 - History of Robinhood Crypto

    01:23 - Why Robinhood Added Crypto

    02:42 - Robinhood's Perspective on Crypto

    07:12 - How Robinhood Monetizes Crypto

    12:31 - Competing with Crypto Exchanges

    14:22 - Token Listing Strategy

    16:53 - Balancing Features and Asset Expansion

    18:17 - Staking in the EU and Regulatory Concerns

    21:22 - Staking Demand and Customer Education

    24:08 - Robinhood Wallet Features

    27:23 - Self-Custody Wallet Metrics

    28:49 - Meme Stock Frenzy and Decentralized Trading

    31:42 - Blockchain for Settlement and Efficiency

    39:08 - Marketplace vs. Exchange Transition

    41:49 - Upcoming Milestones for Robinhood Crypto

    43:19 - Market Trends and Future Vision

    44:49 - Long-Term Vision for Robinhood Crypto

    46:00 - Closing Remarks


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    12 December 2024, 6:19 pm
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    How Lido is Making ETH Staking Easier and More Decentralized | Dimitry Gusakov, Community Staking

    In this episode, Dimitry Gusakov, Community Staking Lead at Lido, discusses the protocol’s efforts to enhance decentralization and accessibility in Ethereum staking. He explains the launch of the Community Staking Module, which lowers barriers for individual validators while addressing concerns about centralization within the Ethereum ecosystem. The conversation also explores potential impacts of proposed Ethereum staking changes and Lido’s roadmap for further decentralization in 2025. Tune in to gain insights into the evolving landscape of liquid staking and its role in securing Ethereum.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction

    00:14 - What is Lido and Liquid Staking?

    02:20 - Liquid Staking Use Cases in DeFi

    05:33 - Addressing Centralization Concerns in Lido

    08:25 - Community Staking Module: Decentralization Efforts

    10:49 - Requirements to Become a Home Validator

    13:26 - Rewards and Entry Barriers for Home Validators

    16:12 - Hardware Setup for Validators

    23:39 - Socialized Rewards and Offline Allowances

    26:38 - Higher Rewards for Running a Node

    34:23 - Impact of CSM on Lido’s Decentralization

    41:13 - Ethereum Security and the Importance of Decentralization

    52:19 - Ethereum Issuance Proposal: Implications for Lido

    01:06:07 - Future Developments for Lido in 2025


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    2 December 2024, 7:39 pm
  • 1 hour 14 minutes
    Deep Dive into Ethereum's Beam Chain: Exclusive Insights with Researcher Justin Drake

    In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Ethereum Foundation researcher Justin Drake dives deep into the Beam Chain proposal, a transformative upgrade aimed at accelerating Ethereum’s roadmap and enhancing its consensus layer. Justin explains how the Beam Chain would incorporate key innovations like SNARK proofs, quantum security, and single-slot finality to boost decentralization, security, and scalability. He also discusses incremental upgrades like staking caps and pre-confirmations, which aim to improve Ethereum’s performance and user experience in the near term. The conversation explores Ethereum’s competition with Solana and Bitcoin, highlighting how Ethereum’s long-term focus on robustness and scalability positions it to thrive as the foundational layer for the decentralized internet.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction: Justin Drake

    01:03 - What is the Beam Chain?

    02:41 - Why Ethereum Needs Acceleration

    05:06 - Lessons from the Merge for the Beam Chain

    07:06 - Solving Ethereum’s Technical Debt

    15:58 - Faster Confirmation Times

    18:11 - Pre-confirmations in Ethereum

    24:14 - Layer 1 and Layer 2 Pre-confirmations

    30:41 - Big Ticket Changes in the Beam Chain

    31:04 - Snarkification of Consensus Layer

    33:31 - Single Slot Finality

    39:00 - Trustless Bridges Between Blockchains

    49:00 - Native Rollups and Execution Sharding

    54:04 - Ethereum vs. Solana on Performance

    01:10:00 - Near-Term Upgrades to Watch For


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    25 November 2024, 4:38 pm
  • 1 hour 1 minute
    "‘By 2025, Ethereum Will Feel Like One Unified Network" | Hart Lambur

    Hart Lambur, co-founder of Across Protocol and UMA, discusses Across’s mission to enable fast, low-cost asset transfers between Ethereum layer twos, with a focus on creating a seamless user experience. He explains how the protocol’s “intent architecture” leverages third-party solvers to improve cross-chain interactions, offering a cohesive way for users to transfer assets and execute transactions across different Ethereum networks. Lambur also emphasizes the importance of Ethereum’s upcoming account abstraction upgrades in achieving a unified ecosystem, allowing actions on any Ethereum chain from a single wallet. He envisions a future by 2025 where Ethereum feels like a unified network, improving user experience significantly.


    Chapters

    00:04 - Introduction to Hart Lambur

    00:14 - Hart’s Background and Motivation for Building Across Protocol

    00:50 - Integration with Uniswap

    10:34 - Challenges in Ethereum Interoperability and Gas Fees

    12:03 - Ethereum’s Scalability Achievements and New Issues

    18:04 - Account Abstraction: ERC-7702 and Its Role in Ethereum

    27:02 - Intents Architecture

    41:00 - Current User Experience Issues in Ethereum and Solutions

    52:32 - Hart’s Vision for Ethereum as a Unified Network by 2025

    57:08 - Closing Thoughts on Ethereum’s Future and Overcoming Fragmentation


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    4 November 2024, 3:45 pm
  • 34 minutes 37 seconds
    ZKsync 3.0: Elastic Chain and the Future of Scalable Web3 with Matter Labs’ Nana Murugesan

    Nana Murugesan, President of Matter Labs and former VP of Business Development at Coinbase, joins Camila Russo in this week’s podcast to discuss the latest updates from ZKsync, including the recently launched Elastic Chain. He explains how ZKsync’s approach to interoperability and customization aims to make Web3 infrastructure as seamless as Web2, emphasizing the importance of user-friendly experiences for mainstream adoption. Nana also highlights Matter Labs' partnership with Buenos Aires to bring ZK-backed digital identity to millions of citizens, showcasing a promising model for government and Web3 collaboration. Finally, he shares upcoming milestones for ZKsync, with new chains and collaborations in Latin America, gaming, and the creator economy.


    Chapters

    0:00 - Introduction

    0:17 - ZKsync and Elastic Chain

    2:57 - Evolution of ZKsync

    5:22 - Interoperability and Customizability in Web3

    7:30 - User Experience

    10:16 - The Role of Governments in Blockchain Adoption

    14:41 - Digital Identity on the Blockchain

    17:18 - Why Zero-Knowledge Proofs Matter

    21:02 - Cost and Throughput Advantage of ZKsync

    25:07 - UX and Interoperability Challenges

    27:05 - ZKsync in Latin America

    30:05 - Upcoming Projects on Elastic Chain

    32:39 - Future Focus for Matter Labs

    33:46 - Closing Remarks


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    28 October 2024, 1:04 pm
  • 41 minutes 57 seconds
    From Rock Bottom to Success: How Bitcoin Saved Dylan Kawalec's Life

    In this week’s podcast, Dylan Kawalec, Head of Developer Relations at Goat Network, discusses the Goat Founders Club, which is a new initiative aimed at empowering developers and entrepreneurs to build on the Bitcoin Layer 2 ecosystem. He explains how the program incentivizes builders through a unique points reward system that can be converted into tokens, fostering a more developer-centric community. Dylan also dives into the technical aspects of the Goat Network, including its decentralized sequencer model and use of zero-knowledge rollups, to enhance Bitcoin's scalability and interoperability. Lastly, he shares his personal story of how Bitcoin transformed his life, highlighting his unwavering passion and optimism for the future of the network.


    Chapters

    00:00 - Dylan Kawalec and GOAT Network

    00:16 - What is the GOAT Founders Club?

    03:46 - About GOAT Network: Bitcoin Layer 2 Overview

    05:12 - Differentiation from Other Layer 2s

    07:00 - Founders Club Tracks for Developers

    11:03 - Governance Token: Future Role of GOAT Token

    12:28 - Role of Bitcoin on GOAT Network

    15:07 - Sequencer Model and Bridging to Other Chains

    21:00 - Dylan’s Personal Bitcoin Story

    24:56 - Inspiration Behind Founders Club

    42:11 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts


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    21 October 2024, 7:39 pm
  • 48 minutes 56 seconds
    Why Sui is Skyrocketing: Price Surge & Growing Ecosystem | Adeniyi Abiodun, Mysten Labs

    Adeniyi Abiodun is the co-founder of Mysten Labs and a major contributor to the Sui blockchain. In this week’s podcast, he discusses Sui's unique positioning as a "global coordination layer for the internet," emphasizing its decentralized nature and its technical advancements such as parallel execution and the use of the Move programming language. He highlights the expertise of the team behind Sui, their focus on scalability, and the potential for Sui to revolutionize payments and digital asset ownership. Abiodun also addresses challenges like decentralization concerns and outlines future growth areas, including gaming and DeFi.


    Chapters

    0:00 - Introduction with Adeniyi Abiodun, Co-founder of Mysten Labs

    0:42 - What is Sui and how it's different from other L1s

    1:50 - Addressing the centralization problem of the internet

    3:52 - Scalability and throughput advantages of Sui

    5:24 - How Sui solves scalability and throughput challenges

    7:31 - Move language: A better approach for Web3 development

    10:33 - Object-based model vs account-based model in blockchains

    16:00 - Sui token's recent price surge and adoption trends

    19:16 - Native USDC launch and its impact on DeFi growth

    22:11 - Sui's low latency and fast transaction speeds

    33:19 - Expanding Web3 adoption and onboarding billions of users

    45:37 - Sui’s vision for the future


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    14 October 2024, 5:48 pm
  • 51 minutes 40 seconds
    Democratic Candidate John Avlon on Depolarizing Crypto Regulation and Building Bipartisan Support

    John Avlon is a congressional candidate for New York, advocating for bipartisan support of emerging technologies like cryptocurrency. In this week's podcast, John emphasizes the need for clear and reasonable regulation to foster innovation without stifling it, while warning against making technology a partisan issue. Avlon critiques the current regulatory landscape, including the approach of figures like Gary Gensler, and highlights the potential risks of pushing innovation overseas. He advocates for Democrats to embrace technology as a key driver of U.S. competitiveness, underscoring that this election will shape the trajectory of the nation's future.


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    0:00 Intro to John Avlon

    1:02 Pivotal Moment For Crypto

    3:50 US Crypto Policy

    8:40 Regulatory Framework

    17:40 Trust In Kamala Harris

    26:30 Crypto Lobby

    31:21 Balance In Regulation

    44:05 John Avlon's Bags

    47:12 Threat To Democracy


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    8 October 2024, 5:18 pm
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