The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.
Sam Kazemian, founder of Frax Finance, outlined the development and goals of FraxUSD, a decentralized stablecoin designed to integrate with both traditional finance and decentralized ecosystems. The upgraded FraxUSD offers redeemability through custodians like BlackRock and SuperState while providing competitive yields through diversified strategies. Kazemian described Frax’s broader vision as building a digital economy anchored by its flagship stablecoin and Fraxstool, a high-performance Ethereum Layer 2.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:48 - Founding Story and Differentiation of Frax
02:01 - Vision for Decentralized Stablecoins
02:41 - Features of FraxUSD
08:51 - Best of Both Worlds Design for FraxUSD
13:08 - Future of Stablecoins
23:05 - Yield Strategy of FraxUSD
34:16 - FraxUSD in Real World and On-Chain Usage
42:02 - Stablecoins as the Gateway to Crypto
47:12 - Roadmap and Future of Frax
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Zhouxun Yin, the Co-Founder of Magic Eden, joins The Defiant Podcast to discuss the evolution of one of the largest NFT marketplaces. In this episode, he shares the story behind Magic Eden’s founding, their decision to focus on Solana early on, and their multi-chain expansion strategy. Z dives into the challenges of navigating the bear market, enforcing royalties, and launching a token to unite their ecosystem. He also explores the future of NFTs, their integration with AI, and Magic Eden's ambitious shift toward becoming an all-encompassing on-chain trading platform.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:30 - Founding Magic Eden
03:40 - Surviving FTX and Solana’s Challenges
07:20 - Navigating the NFT Bear Market
12:00 - The Bitcoin Ordinals Bet
16:00 - Multi-Chain Expansion
24:30 - Launching the $ME Token
32:00 - Addressing Airdrop Challenges
46:50 - The Royalty Debate
54:10 - Long-Term Vision for NFTs
01:03:00 - On-Chain Trading and Future Goals
01:10:35 - Closing Thoughts
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Sandy Peng, co-founder of Scroll, tells us the journey of building one of the most anticipated Ethereum Layer 2s, their focus on ZK rollups for scalability, and the unique value proposition of high security, decentralization, and low costs. Sandy discusses Scroll's transition from general purpose chain design to supporting specific use cases driven by ecosystem builders and founders. They explore challenges and lessons from Scroll's recent token airdrop, emphasizing the importance of clear communication, equitable distribution, and fostering a vibrant community. Sandy highlights the Scroll Open initiative and their long-term vision to create a thriving "city" for innovation and talent in the blockchain space.
Chapters
00:00 - Sandy Peng on Scroll's Rise
00:30 - Scroll’s Evolution and 2025 Vision
01:30 - The Founding Story of Scroll
02:30 - Why ZK Rollups?
04:00 - Scroll's Unique Edge in the L2 Space
07:00 - Transition to Use Case-Specific Chains
09:00 - Scroll's Vision for Builders and Founders
11:00 - Sub-Cent Costs and High Security Explained
15:00 - Decentralization: Scroll’s Progress and Plans
20:00 - Governance and the Role of Scroll Tokens
25:00 - Airdrop Lessons and Community Feedback
35:00 - Reflections on Token Distribution Trends
46:00 - Layer 2s and Ethereum’s Value Narrative
50:00 - Scroll Open: Building the Future Economy
58:00 - Scroll's Big Picture Vision
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Johann Kerbrat is the Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, leading the charge in bringing crypto to millions of retail investors. In this episode, Johann shares the journey of Robinhood Crypto, from its early days of launching in 2018 to its recent innovations, including staking, self-custody wallets, and a potential shift towards a full-fledged crypto exchange. He discusses how Robinhood is leveraging blockchain to enhance efficiency, lower costs, and expand access to financial instruments.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:14 - History of Robinhood Crypto
01:23 - Why Robinhood Added Crypto
02:42 - Robinhood's Perspective on Crypto
07:12 - How Robinhood Monetizes Crypto
12:31 - Competing with Crypto Exchanges
14:22 - Token Listing Strategy
16:53 - Balancing Features and Asset Expansion
18:17 - Staking in the EU and Regulatory Concerns
21:22 - Staking Demand and Customer Education
24:08 - Robinhood Wallet Features
27:23 - Self-Custody Wallet Metrics
28:49 - Meme Stock Frenzy and Decentralized Trading
31:42 - Blockchain for Settlement and Efficiency
39:08 - Marketplace vs. Exchange Transition
41:49 - Upcoming Milestones for Robinhood Crypto
43:19 - Market Trends and Future Vision
44:49 - Long-Term Vision for Robinhood Crypto
46:00 - Closing Remarks
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In this episode, Dimitry Gusakov, Community Staking Lead at Lido, discusses the protocol’s efforts to enhance decentralization and accessibility in Ethereum staking. He explains the launch of the Community Staking Module, which lowers barriers for individual validators while addressing concerns about centralization within the Ethereum ecosystem. The conversation also explores potential impacts of proposed Ethereum staking changes and Lido’s roadmap for further decentralization in 2025. Tune in to gain insights into the evolving landscape of liquid staking and its role in securing Ethereum.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:14 - What is Lido and Liquid Staking?
02:20 - Liquid Staking Use Cases in DeFi
05:33 - Addressing Centralization Concerns in Lido
08:25 - Community Staking Module: Decentralization Efforts
10:49 - Requirements to Become a Home Validator
13:26 - Rewards and Entry Barriers for Home Validators
16:12 - Hardware Setup for Validators
23:39 - Socialized Rewards and Offline Allowances
26:38 - Higher Rewards for Running a Node
34:23 - Impact of CSM on Lido’s Decentralization
41:13 - Ethereum Security and the Importance of Decentralization
52:19 - Ethereum Issuance Proposal: Implications for Lido
01:06:07 - Future Developments for Lido in 2025
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In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Ethereum Foundation researcher Justin Drake dives deep into the Beam Chain proposal, a transformative upgrade aimed at accelerating Ethereum’s roadmap and enhancing its consensus layer. Justin explains how the Beam Chain would incorporate key innovations like SNARK proofs, quantum security, and single-slot finality to boost decentralization, security, and scalability. He also discusses incremental upgrades like staking caps and pre-confirmations, which aim to improve Ethereum’s performance and user experience in the near term. The conversation explores Ethereum’s competition with Solana and Bitcoin, highlighting how Ethereum’s long-term focus on robustness and scalability positions it to thrive as the foundational layer for the decentralized internet.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction: Justin Drake
01:03 - What is the Beam Chain?
02:41 - Why Ethereum Needs Acceleration
05:06 - Lessons from the Merge for the Beam Chain
07:06 - Solving Ethereum’s Technical Debt
15:58 - Faster Confirmation Times
18:11 - Pre-confirmations in Ethereum
24:14 - Layer 1 and Layer 2 Pre-confirmations
30:41 - Big Ticket Changes in the Beam Chain
31:04 - Snarkification of Consensus Layer
33:31 - Single Slot Finality
39:00 - Trustless Bridges Between Blockchains
49:00 - Native Rollups and Execution Sharding
54:04 - Ethereum vs. Solana on Performance
01:10:00 - Near-Term Upgrades to Watch For
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Hart Lambur, co-founder of Across Protocol and UMA, discusses Across’s mission to enable fast, low-cost asset transfers between Ethereum layer twos, with a focus on creating a seamless user experience. He explains how the protocol’s “intent architecture” leverages third-party solvers to improve cross-chain interactions, offering a cohesive way for users to transfer assets and execute transactions across different Ethereum networks. Lambur also emphasizes the importance of Ethereum’s upcoming account abstraction upgrades in achieving a unified ecosystem, allowing actions on any Ethereum chain from a single wallet. He envisions a future by 2025 where Ethereum feels like a unified network, improving user experience significantly.
Chapters
00:04 - Introduction to Hart Lambur
00:14 - Hart’s Background and Motivation for Building Across Protocol
00:50 - Integration with Uniswap
10:34 - Challenges in Ethereum Interoperability and Gas Fees
12:03 - Ethereum’s Scalability Achievements and New Issues
18:04 - Account Abstraction: ERC-7702 and Its Role in Ethereum
27:02 - Intents Architecture
41:00 - Current User Experience Issues in Ethereum and Solutions
52:32 - Hart’s Vision for Ethereum as a Unified Network by 2025
57:08 - Closing Thoughts on Ethereum’s Future and Overcoming Fragmentation
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Nana Murugesan, President of Matter Labs and former VP of Business Development at Coinbase, joins Camila Russo in this week’s podcast to discuss the latest updates from ZKsync, including the recently launched Elastic Chain. He explains how ZKsync’s approach to interoperability and customization aims to make Web3 infrastructure as seamless as Web2, emphasizing the importance of user-friendly experiences for mainstream adoption. Nana also highlights Matter Labs' partnership with Buenos Aires to bring ZK-backed digital identity to millions of citizens, showcasing a promising model for government and Web3 collaboration. Finally, he shares upcoming milestones for ZKsync, with new chains and collaborations in Latin America, gaming, and the creator economy.
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
0:17 - ZKsync and Elastic Chain
2:57 - Evolution of ZKsync
5:22 - Interoperability and Customizability in Web3
7:30 - User Experience
10:16 - The Role of Governments in Blockchain Adoption
14:41 - Digital Identity on the Blockchain
17:18 - Why Zero-Knowledge Proofs Matter
21:02 - Cost and Throughput Advantage of ZKsync
25:07 - UX and Interoperability Challenges
27:05 - ZKsync in Latin America
30:05 - Upcoming Projects on Elastic Chain
32:39 - Future Focus for Matter Labs
33:46 - Closing Remarks
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In this week’s podcast, Dylan Kawalec, Head of Developer Relations at Goat Network, discusses the Goat Founders Club, which is a new initiative aimed at empowering developers and entrepreneurs to build on the Bitcoin Layer 2 ecosystem. He explains how the program incentivizes builders through a unique points reward system that can be converted into tokens, fostering a more developer-centric community. Dylan also dives into the technical aspects of the Goat Network, including its decentralized sequencer model and use of zero-knowledge rollups, to enhance Bitcoin's scalability and interoperability. Lastly, he shares his personal story of how Bitcoin transformed his life, highlighting his unwavering passion and optimism for the future of the network.
Chapters
00:00 - Dylan Kawalec and GOAT Network
00:16 - What is the GOAT Founders Club?
03:46 - About GOAT Network: Bitcoin Layer 2 Overview
05:12 - Differentiation from Other Layer 2s
07:00 - Founders Club Tracks for Developers
11:03 - Governance Token: Future Role of GOAT Token
12:28 - Role of Bitcoin on GOAT Network
15:07 - Sequencer Model and Bridging to Other Chains
21:00 - Dylan’s Personal Bitcoin Story
24:56 - Inspiration Behind Founders Club
42:11 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Adeniyi Abiodun is the co-founder of Mysten Labs and a major contributor to the Sui blockchain. In this week’s podcast, he discusses Sui's unique positioning as a "global coordination layer for the internet," emphasizing its decentralized nature and its technical advancements such as parallel execution and the use of the Move programming language. He highlights the expertise of the team behind Sui, their focus on scalability, and the potential for Sui to revolutionize payments and digital asset ownership. Abiodun also addresses challenges like decentralization concerns and outlines future growth areas, including gaming and DeFi.
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction with Adeniyi Abiodun, Co-founder of Mysten Labs
0:42 - What is Sui and how it's different from other L1s
1:50 - Addressing the centralization problem of the internet
3:52 - Scalability and throughput advantages of Sui
5:24 - How Sui solves scalability and throughput challenges
7:31 - Move language: A better approach for Web3 development
10:33 - Object-based model vs account-based model in blockchains
16:00 - Sui token's recent price surge and adoption trends
19:16 - Native USDC launch and its impact on DeFi growth
22:11 - Sui's low latency and fast transaction speeds
33:19 - Expanding Web3 adoption and onboarding billions of users
45:37 - Sui’s vision for the future
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John Avlon is a congressional candidate for New York, advocating for bipartisan support of emerging technologies like cryptocurrency. In this week's podcast, John emphasizes the need for clear and reasonable regulation to foster innovation without stifling it, while warning against making technology a partisan issue. Avlon critiques the current regulatory landscape, including the approach of figures like Gary Gensler, and highlights the potential risks of pushing innovation overseas. He advocates for Democrats to embrace technology as a key driver of U.S. competitiveness, underscoring that this election will shape the trajectory of the nation's future.
Chapters
0:00 Intro to John Avlon
1:02 Pivotal Moment For Crypto
3:50 US Crypto Policy
8:40 Regulatory Framework
17:40 Trust In Kamala Harris
26:30 Crypto Lobby
31:21 Balance In Regulation
44:05 John Avlon's Bags
47:12 Threat To Democracy
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