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  • 58 minutes 14 seconds
    IFH 776: Crafting Comedy Without Limits: The Indie Spirit Behind Chasing Molly with Shelley Pack & Josh Sutherland
    In today’s episode, we welcome the brilliant comedic minds behind Chasing Molly: Shelley Pack and Josh Sutherland. Together, they share the odyssey of making an independent film from scratch, driven by pure creativity and an unwavering dedication to laughter and storytelling. Their journey is not just one of filmmaking but of persistence, grit, and a desire to carve a unique voice in the comedy genre.

    Shelley Pack brings her background as a comedian and improv performer, skillfully assembling a cast of friends and acquaintances to breathe life into Chasing Molly. With no big studios or massive budgets, Shelley and Josh poured their souls into the project. "It was liberating to create something genuinely funny without restrictions," Shelley reflects, highlighting how the freedom of independent filmmaking allowed her to maintain the authenticity of the comedy.

    On the other side, Josh Sutherland recounts his journey from a kid with a camcorder to a professional in Hollywood, working every possible crew position to understand the art and science of film. A student of cinema at the University of Texas, Josh entered the world of visual effects, gaining firsthand knowledge in various roles. When the opportunity arose to collaborate on Chasing Molly, Josh brought not only technical expertise but also a lifelong passion. "Filmmaking is a huge, huge team sport," he explains, underscoring the communal effort that went into producing the film.One memorable anecdote shared by Shelley and Josh is the challenge of shooting in a real pawn shop while it was open to the public. With customers oblivious to the filming, Shelley describes an eccentric woman examining items with a magnifying glass, fully engrossed in her shopping while the crew scrambled to finish the scene before sundown. Such improvisational moments added authenticity to the film, revealing the beauty and chaos of guerilla-style filmmaking.Shelley also speaks about the “Zen Cholo,” a character who emerged through social media sleuthing. Shelley found “Scar,” a YouTube personality with a massive social following, whose calm demeanor brought unexpected depth to the role of a gang leader. This resourcefulness in casting enabled the team to create a distinctive character who, as Shelley notes, is “like a Buddha with street cred,” adding unique charm to the film.

    In the end, Chasing Molly is more than a film; it’s a testament to the idea that with a vision, a supportive crew, and a refusal to take “no” for an answer, anything is possible. As Josh says, “We set ourselves up to win,” and that victory is felt in every scene of this indie gem

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    12 November 2024, 12:30 pm
  • 49 minutes 27 seconds
    IFH 775 - Breaking Into Hollywood: The Power of Authentic Connections and Creative Vision with Jameson Parker
    On today's episode, we welcome Jameson Parker, a seasoned producer with roots in theater, who’s climbed the ranks in the world of film and television. As a Development Director at Bright Light Pictures, Jameson has developed a keen eye for projects that align with his passion and resonate with audiences. Starting as an actor, he transitioned to production, taking on the mentorship of industry veteran Sean Williamson, and carving a niche in the independent cinema space.Jameson shares his journey from pursuing theater in Vancouver to becoming a producer with a versatile portfolio, which includes films like Summer of 84 and the Netflix series Julie and the Phantoms. He explains the art of “breaking in” as an evolving process, emphasizing perseverance and the invaluable nature of mentorship in an industry where relationships shape opportunities. In his case, connecting with Sean was pivotal, as it granted him guidance and resources to navigate the challenging waters of production. As he aptly puts it, “There’s an element of perseverance that permeates every success story—banging your head against the wall until the brick cracks.”In our conversation, Jameson reflects on the state of Hollywood’s market-driven focus, where franchises and reboots often overshadow fresh, original stories. He believes true creative fulfillment lies in cultivating unique narratives rather than chasing trends.

    He references his experience with Summer of 84, which drew inspiration from classic thrillers and managed to resonate with audiences without the typical industry formulas. Jameson champions the importance of bringing something authentic to the screen, arguing, “If you chase what’s doing well in the marketplace, you’re always going to be behind the eight ball.”For Jameson, networking is less about formal events and more about building meaningful relationships. He recalls his serendipitous meeting with writer Matt Leslie at a networking event, which led to the development of Summer of 84. He stresses that genuine connections often lead to more fruitful collaborations than transactional exchanges. This philosophy has carried him through many projects, as he remains committed to developing authentic connections both on and off set.As the conversation deepens, Jameson delves into the complexities of producing for television versus film. Working with Netflix on Julie and the Phantoms, alongside renowned director Kenny Ortega, has been a “big learning experience” for him. He contrasts this with his independent projects, which allow for more creative control and hands-on involvement.

    The Netflix series exemplifies the evolving landscape of TV production, where platforms like Netflix provide vast opportunities but also introduce unique challenges due to their expansive, competitive nature.Jameson also speaks to the behind-the-scenes challenges producers face, especially in managing large teams on set. From navigating egos to ensuring open communication, he explains how these aspects shape the production experience. He acknowledges that problem-solving in production can feel overwhelming but emphasizes the importance of keeping a calm perspective. “If it can be solved with money, it’s not really a problem,” he says, underscoring his pragmatic approach to navigating production obstacles.In a business defined by collaboration and trust, Jameson has thrived by working with familiar faces, valuing shared experiences over constant change. His career is a testament to the power of resilience, passion, and a deep-seated love for storytelling. As he anticipates his next independent film project, he remains committed to blending his studio experiences with his passion for independent cinema.

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    5 November 2024, 12:30 pm
  • 52 minutes 58 seconds
    IFH 774: Breaking Barriers in Filmmaking: The Resilient Journey of Sean Buckley
    On today's episode, we welcome Sean Buckley, founder and CEO of Buck Productions. From humble beginnings to becoming a force in content creation, Sean’s journey is a testament to persistence, passion, and adaptability. Through his story, he paints a vivid picture of the challenges of building a media production company from scratch, especially in an ever-evolving industry where technology has transformed the very nature of content creation. "Work ethic," he says, "is the backbone of success in this industry.

    "Sean recalls the early days in 1994, when making content meant overcoming logistical obstacles that today’s creators rarely face. Filmmaking then was a more arduous process, demanding significant manual effort, with analog, linear editing and physical deliveries of VHS tapes. In those days, getting a project off the ground involved cold calls and navigating skepticism. Sean emphasizes that those experiences, though difficult, were foundational. They shaped his resilience, a trait that he argues is crucial for creators even today.As the conversation delves deeper, Sean reflects on how the digital age has leveled the playing field. With tools now accessible to everyone, "the barriers to entry," he notes, "are almost gone." Anyone can shoot, edit, and publish content. But with the democratization of content creation, he warns, comes a saturation of voices. Success in this new landscape, he believes, demands not just access but talent and a relentless drive to stand out amid the noise. 

    For Sean, having a unique perspective and refined storytelling craft remains paramount in a world awash with content.Despite the industry’s rapid changes, Sean holds firm to his philosophy of diversity in storytelling. Buck Productions has a varied portfolio spanning feature films, unscripted shows, documentaries, and branded content. "Our business model is like a spectrum," he explains, "where creativity meets business acumen." This diversified approach has allowed Buck Productions to adapt to industry trends without being pigeonholed, and to prioritize meaningful projects. For Sean, content creation is both an art and a business, one that demands constant evolution and balance between vision and practicality.When asked about the influx of new content on platforms like YouTube and Netflix, Sean sees both opportunity and challenge. The vast amount of content now available has shifted the power dynamic from creators to audiences, who now decide when, where, and what they want to watch. "Today’s audience has a ferocious appetite," he observes, "and they’re the ones in control." This shift requires creators to think not only about what they make but also about how quickly they can adapt to audience demands.

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    29 October 2024, 11:30 am
  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    IFH 773: How to Master Screenwriting in Hollywood with Mick Hurbis-Cherrier
    Today on the show we have author, filmmaker and screenwriter Mick Hurbis-Cherrier.Mick  is an independent filmmaker and screenwriter. His works have been broadcast and shown around the country and have garnered prizes at many festivals including the Black Maria Film & Video Festival, Ann Arbor Film Festival, Athens Film & Video Festival and the Cin(e) Poems National Film Festival.His work has also been featured at the Robert Flaherty Seminar, the American Film Institute’s National Video Showcase and at the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. His screenplays have also won prizes including the Arthur Miller Award for dramatic writing, the Lawrence Kasdan award for screenwriting and he was twice an award winner in the University Film & Video Association national screenwriting competition.

    Among his film projects are: River of Things, an alternative film in four parts based on four poems by Pablo Neruda and Fear Fall, a short narrative satire about paranoia and the squeezing of the American middle class, which he wrote, directed and produced.His recent commissioned feature screenwriting projects include Give Me Five, which he co-wrote (with Ron Bass) for La Petite Reine Productions, Mesopotamia 2020 for Picturesque films and Empire of Dirt for director Steve Ramser. He also penned Better That Way, the official English language stage adaptation of the film Une Liaison Pornographique (U.S. release title An Affair of Love).

    He is currently completing a gangster genre screenplay set in New Orleans entitled Force of Nature, also for Picturesque films.In 2011 Hurbis-Cherrier published the 2nd edition of his comprehensive narrative film production textbook Voice & Vision: A Creative Approach to Narrative Filmmaking. with Focal Press (originally published in 2007). In 2013 he published Directing: Film Techniques and Aesthetics 5th ed. (Focal Press) co-authored with Michael Rabiger.Both of these books are among the core film production textbooks in film programs throughout this country and internationally. Hurbis-Cherrier is currently working on the book, Practical Film Analysis and Inspired Filmmaking for the British Film Institute (BFI Publishing, Palgrave/MacMillan) which is scheduled for publication in early 2015.

    Enjoy my conversation with Mick Hurbis-Cherrier.

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    22 October 2024, 11:30 am
  • 48 minutes 18 seconds
    IFH 772: Screenwriting the 80’ Classic Cocoon with Tom Benedek
    Tom Benedek is a screenwriter known for his work in the film industry. He was born on March 16, 1949, in Los Angeles, California, USA. Benedek has written several screenplays for movies across various genres. One of his notable works includes co-writing the screenplay for the 1984 science fiction film "Cocoon," directed by Ron Howard.

    "Cocoon" was a critical and commercial success and received two Academy Awards for Best Supporting Actor and Best Visual Effects. The film tells the story of a group of elderly individuals who discover an alien life force that rejuvenates them, leading to a series of life-changing events.In addition to his work on "Cocoon," Tom Benedek has written other screenplays and worked on various projects in the entertainment industry.

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    15 October 2024, 11:30 am
  • 1 hour 27 minutes
    IFH 771: Beat by Beat to a Better Screenplay with Jim Mercurio
    Today on the show we have Jim Mercurio. Jim is a filmmaker, writer, and author whose screenwriting instruction has inspired tens of thousands of writers around the world. Creative Screenwriting ranked him as one of the country’s top story analysts:

    “The best example of how an analyst can give concrete help without veering off the track of your story... (Jim) is not just telling you how to rewrite a particular script... but how to apply it to future work as well.”

    Jim works with Oscar-nominated and A-List writers as well as complete beginners. He adapts to each writer and script.Jim is a true champion for undiscovered writers and filmmakers. He produced Hard Scrambled which, like the horror-thriller he directed Last Girl, was discovered in a contest. The film stars Kurtwood Smith (That 70’s Show) and indie stalwart Richard Edson. It premiered at Cinequest and won Best Dramatic Feature at Garden State Film Festival. His experience as a filmmaker informs his approach to the material. He helps you to execute your vision with vivid and cinematic storytelling that can attract allies like directors and producers.He directed more than 60 hours of Screenwriting education including the first 40 Workshops in the Screenwriting Expo Series including classes by some of the other top screenwriting teachers in the world.

    His own course Killer Endings was one of the best sellers from the collection. He wrote and directed Making Hard Scrambled Movies, filmmaking tutorials, as bonus material for Hard Scrambled’s original release.The Washington Post called them “a must for would-be filmmakers.” Inspired by his work on the Expo series, Jim applied his entrepreneurial “go big or go home” attitude to the six-disc DVD set Complete Screenwriting: From A to Z to A-List, a behemoth of screenwriting instruction. It is one of the most comprehensive screenwriting resources in the world. It’s a fast and furious ten hours with an hour of stunning motion graphics that help to explain seldom-discussed topics like theme, concept and character orchestration.Jim wrote The Craft of Scene Writing: Beat by Beat to a Better Script, the first-ever screenwriting book that focuses solely on scene writing.

    Together, Jim’s course and book illustrate his forte, to illustrate advanced craft and nitty-gritty insight essential for mastery of screenwriting craft.

    Enjoy my conversation with Jim Mercurio.

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    8 October 2024, 11:30 am
  • 1 hour 6 minutes
    IFH 770: Screenwriting Unchained – Master Story Structure with Emmanuel Oberg
    Today on the show we have Emmanuel Oberg. Emmanuel is a screenwriter, author and script consultant with more than twenty years of experience in the Film and TV industry. After selling his first project to Warner Bros as a co-writer, he went on to be commissioned by StudioCanal and Gold Circle before writing solo for Working Title / Universal and Film4.He has also designed an internationally acclaimed 3-day Advanced Development Workshop - based on the Story-Type Method® - which he delivers with passion to filmmakers all over the world. Emmanuel lives in the UK with his wife and their two daughters. His film agent is Rachel Holroyd at Casarotto in London. He is also the writer of Screenwriting Unchained: Reclaim Your Creative Freedom and Master Story Structure (With The Story-Type Method).

    In Screenwriting Unchained, Emmanuel Oberg busts many myths and sets out an innovative methodThis practical, no-nonsense guide leaves behind one-size-fits-all story theories and offers a modern approach to story structure, making it a precious resource for anyone involved creatively in the Film and TV industry (or aspiring to be): writers, directors, producers, development execs, showrunners and, more generally, storytellers keen to reach a wide audience at home and abroad.Having identified three main story-types - plot-led, character-led, theme-led - Oberg reveals in a clear, conversational style how each of these impacts on the structure of any screenplay, and how we can use a single set of tools to develop any movie, from an independent crossover to a studio blockbuster.This leads to a powerful yet flexible way to handle the script development process: the Story-Type Method®. A new framework that doesn't tell you what to write and when, but focuses instead on why some tools and principles have stood the test of time and how to use them in the 21st century.

    According to readers (see reviews below), Oberg's new approach is a game-changer.

    Here are some of the easy-to-understand concepts explored in Screenwriting Unchained that will help you improve any screenplay:
    • How to identify the story-type of your project to make its development faster, easier and solve most story structure problems.

    • How to leave behind the prescriptive, logistical three-act structure based on page numbers or minutes and replace it with a flexible, dramatic three-act structure that will help you design a rock-solid screenplay.
    • How focusing on emotion, character development and managing information will allow you to go beyond the "protagonist-goal-obstacles-conflict" basic chain of drama.
    • How to use the fractal aspect of structure to design not only the whole story but also its parts in order to avoid the dreaded "sagging middle" syndrome and breathe new life into your script.
    • How to clarify what's at stake and increase your chances of getting the project made with a new take on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
    • How to use subgoals to Sequence the Action and psychological/emotional steps to Sequence the Evolution of your characters.
    • How to keep the audience engaged using tools like dramatic irony, surprise, mystery, and suspense, adding a third dimension to your story.
    • How to master these tools and principles in scenes through practical exercises before using them in a short film, a feature film, a TV episode or a whole series following hands-on tips and advice.
    • How to design an attention-grabbing opening and a satisfying ending.
    • How to deal with hybrids and exceptions, as story structure isn't about forcing all narratives into a single formulaic paradigm.
    • The Rewrite Stuff: 12 Ways to a Stronger Screenplay, how to approach a new draft creatively and efficiently.
    • How to make the difference between selling documents - used to raise development or production finance - and story design tools.
    • Once you've developed a killer script, how to best pitch your project according to its story-type and get enthusiastic partners on board.
    • ...and much, much more!
    Using many case studies including films as diverse as Gravity, Silver Linings Playbook, Crash, Billy Elliot, The Intouchables, Birdman, Alien, Groundhog Day, Misery, Edge of Tomorrow, The Secret in Their Eyes, Cloud Atlas, L.A. Confidential and The Lives of Others, Screenwriting Unchainedwill transform the way you write, read, pitch, design, assess and develop screenplays.

    Enjoy my conversation with Emmanuel Oberg.

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    1 October 2024, 11:30 am
  • 57 minutes 52 seconds
    IFH 769: Lessons Learned: Being a First-Time Writer/Director with Sarah Elizabeth Mintz
    Sarah Elizabeth Mintz received her BFA from New York University’s Tisch School of the Arts, where she completed her thesis film Transit, starring Dakota Johnson. After graduating she mentored with filmmakers Cary Fukunaga on True Detective, Joachim Trier on Louder Than Bombs, and worked with Alejandro Inarritu on The Revenant.Sarah was a Sundance Fellow in the 2017 Writer’s Intensive and 2018 Sundance Strategic Financing Intensive with her project Good Girl Jane. She completed a short film of the same name starring Rachelle Vinberg (Skate Kitchen, HBO’s Betty) and Travis Tope (American Vandal), with cinematography by Jake Saner (Ghosts of Sugar Land).The short premiered at the Raindance Film Festival in London. Good Girl Jane recently wrapped principal photography in Los Angeles starring Rain Spencer, Patrick Gibson and Andie MacDowell. Good Girl Jane is inspired by events in Sarah’s own life.

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    24 September 2024, 11:30 am
  • 1 hour 22 minutes
    IFH 768: Writing & Directing an Independent Streaming Series with Aram Rappaport
    Aram Rappaport is filmmaker based in New York. Originally from Los Angeles, he began writing, directing and producing in his late teens including the one-take experimental film HELIX starring Alexa Vega.

    He later adapted, produced and directed Max Berry's acclaimed novel into the film SYRUP starring Amber Heard, Shiloh Fernandez and Kellan Lutz and wrote, produced and directed the original film THE CRASH starring John Leguizmao, Frank Grillo, Minnie Driver and Dianna Agron.Set in the future when the US economy is on the brink of yet another massive financial crisis, The Crash tells the story of Guy Clifton, a federally-indicted stock trader, who is secretly enlisted by the federal government to help thwart a cyber-attack aimed at the US stock markets – an attack that could permanently cripple the economy.THE GREEN VEIL is his first episodic project.

    It’s 1955 and Gordon Rodgers has a dream. It’s the American Dream. And he almost has it made. He lives in the suburbs with his wife and daughter. He goes to church, he works for the government. A respected job for a respectable family man.Gordon also has a mission. A nefarious secretive mission on behalf of the US government. It’s going well except for one final plot: The Sutton Farm. Owned by Native Americans Glennie and Gilberto Sutton, they refuse to be bought out. So Gordon must force them out by any means necessary. Maybe even abduct them. And it almost works, until the Suttons escape...At home, Mabel Rodgers is losing her mind. Playing housewife is taking its toll. How she wound up here from a military aviator career, she still doesn't know. When she discovers Gordon’s’ work folder marked CLASSIFIED she is drawn to the file. When she recognizes wartime friend Glennie Sutton as the mission's subject, she has no choice but to explore the case herself. And Gordon can never find out.Gordon’s dream is slipping away. His mission at work is failing. He’s losing control of his family. At what lengths will he go to hold it all together? At what cost to himself and others will he preserve his American Dream? Is this dream even meant for him...or is it all a conspiracy?



    He also runs the hybrid creative agency / production studio The Boathouse for which he's created and directed campaigns for such brands as Apple, Netflix, Victoria's Secret and SingleCare amongst others.

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    17 September 2024, 11:30 am
  • 1 hour 20 minutes
    IFH 767: Why Most Screenplays Don't Sell with Brooks Elms
    Brooks Elms is a screenwriter and independent filmmaker. His specialty is grounded personal characters and writing story tension so thick it knots up your stomach.He's written 25+ screenplays, a dozen of them on assignment, and sold several scripts, including one this year with Brad Peyton as Executive Producer. Brooks was recently hired to rewrite a screenplay started by an Oscar-winning writer. Brooks began his career writing, directing, and producing two indie features (personal dramas) that he screened all over the world.And Brooks also loves coaching fellow writers who have a burning ambition to deeply serve their audiences.

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    10 September 2024, 11:30 am
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    BONUS EPISODE: How to Write a Super Natural Hit Film with BeetleJuice Creator Larry Wilson
    If you were a kid of the late 80s or early 90s then today's guest definitely had an impact on your life. Larry Wilson is the co-creator of the cult classic Beetlejuice (directed by Tim Burton), writer of Addams Family and worked on the legendary television show Tales from the Crypt.

    Larry wasn't always a screenwriter, he worked on the studio side of things as well as an executive. In this interview, he tells the story of how he championed a young and pre-Terminator James Cameron to be the writer/director of Aliens. Great story! Check out some of his work below:
    Larry Wilson was also a screenwriting teacher at UCLA, arguably one of the best screenwriting programs in the world. He has continued to teach through his very popular workshops. His latest workshop Larry Wilson's Method to Madness-A Fantasy and Horror Workshop is filling up quick so sign up. Here's a bit about the workshop.

    As your teacher, my goal is to inspire leaps of imagination by creating an environment that resembles an awesome story conference—the kind myself and my partners experienced while creating Beetlejuice. First, that means we’re allowed to be strange—I’ll encourage your creative quirks and far-out ideas, as long as they’re entertaining and help to tell your story.
     
    I’ll be your guide for workshop writing assignments, role playing games, and group journeys through the dark realms that will keep you engaged and entertained while you’re creating your best story—ever! We’ll jump off the creative cliffs together. What I won’t be doing is lecturing for hours, hoping you’re staying awake. And, even if we’re talking about the darkest story in the world, I’ll make sure we're having fun (if we’re not laughing, it’s not happening). 

    There’s a method to my madness, I promise, and I also promise that you’ll enjoy the ride.
    Below you'll find the episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents that both Larry Wilson and Tim Burton worked on together and started their Beetlejuice adventures. The episode was called "The Jar.

    Enjoy my spooky and funny conversation with Larry Wilson.

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    6 September 2024, 11:30 am
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