In the second of two bonus episodes about the Heaven's Gate UFO group, Toby talks with Lake Forest University professor, Ben Zeller.

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In the first of two bonus episodes about the Heaven's Gate UFO group, Toby talks with academic and researcher, George Chryssides.

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In this bonus episode, Toby chats with Sarah Krasnostein, author of The Believer. They discuss the Creation Museum, people who cleanse houses of annoying spirits, and the two most famous UFO cases in Australian history.

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In this bonus episode, Toby chats with University of North Carolina, Wilmington, professor Diana Pasulka about aerial phenomena in Catholic history, her book American Cosmic, and how institutionalized religion might be affected by Disclosure.

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Historically, people have looked to religious authority figures to explain occurences that seem to exist outside normal human experience. A similar dynamic is at work in the UFO world where certain people claim to have knowledge unattainable by most people. Why do we listen?

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The media has reported that the government has some level of interest in UFOs. But, while you might think that this would mean investigating physical crafts flying around in the sky, this is not exactly the case. What is happening is even stranger.

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John Keel lived a weird and adventurous life. He brought UFOs and other strange phenomena to a larger audience through his compelling storytelling. And he had some wild theories about what all of these phenomena were, even if he didn't necessarily believe it himself.

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"What is battleship gray, five to seven feet tall, has a pair of red eyes two inches in diameter which blaze like two lasers, wings which extend to ten feet when spread and loves to chase automobiles?" It's 1966 and we're in West Virginia. The answer is: The Mothman.

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Emma Woods breaks off her contact with David Jacobs and tries to regain control over her life. David Jacobs responds to her allegations as she pushes Temple University to take action about his research conduct.

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As Emma Woods continued to work with abduction researcher David Jacobs, her hypnosis sessions turned stranger and darker. Then, Jacobs introduced a conspiracy that he said put him and others in grave physical danger. 

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A New Zealand woman who goes by the pseudonym of Emma Woods worked closely with abduction researcher David Jacobs to try to understand the strange experiences she had been through. But her sessions with him would take a decidedly dark turn.

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