Expand your investing horizons and look to the long term. Join hosts Christine Benz and Jeff Ptak as they talk to influential leaders in investing, advice, and personal finance about a wide-range of topics, such as asset allocation and balancing risk and return.
Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar. Our guest on the podcast today is Sahil Bloom. He’s the author of a new book called The 5 Types of Wealth, and he also writes a newsletter called the Curiosity Chronicle. He’s the founder and managing partner of SRB Holdings and SRB Ventures. Before embarking on a career as a content creator, Sahil was a vice president at a private equity fund. He double majored in economics and sociology at Stanford University, and he also received his master’s in public policy there. Sahil, welcome to The Long View.
Background
The 5 Types of Wealth: A Transformative Guide to Design Your Dream Life, by Sahil Bloom
Themes
“The Time Billionaire: A Concept That Changed My Life,” by Sahil Bloom, sahilbloom.com.
“The 2 Types of Status: Bought vs. Earned,” by Sahil Bloom, sahilbloom.com.
“The Incredible Power of No,” by Sahil Bloom, sahilbloom.com.
“The 4 Types of Professional Time,” by Sahil Bloom, sahilbloom.com.
“Parkinson’s Law, How to Read, and More,” by Sahil Bloom, sahilbloom.com.
“Sahil Bloom on Wealth, Success and Pursuing All-Time Highs in Money and Wealth,” by Tim Maurer, forbes.com, Feb. 2, 2025.
“The Life Dinner, Stonecutter Story, and More,” by Sahil Bloom, sahilbloom.com.
Other
Harvard Study of Adult Development
“Daniel Crosby: Can Money Really Buy Happiness?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 17, 2024.
Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less, by Greg McKeown
Mindset: The New Psychology of Success, by Carol Dweck
Our guest this week is our colleague, John Rekenthaler. John is retiring from Morningstar after 36 years. He was one of Morningstar’s early hires. Joe Mansueto and Don Phillips brought John on as a mutual fund analyst in 1988, and he rose to become the company’s vice president of research. He worked on many of Morningstar’s foundational methodologies, including the star rating and style box, and helped launch the retirement business. But he’s best known as author of “The Rekenthaler Report,” an investment column on Morningstar.com that has become one of the most popular and widely cited in investing in personal finance. John holds a BA from the University of Pennsylvania and an MBA from the University of Chicago. John, welcome back to The Long View.
Background
“Farewell, for Now,” by John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, Nov. 12, 2024.
“The Best (and Worst) of John Rekenthaler, in His Own Words,” by Emelia Fredlick, Morningstar.com, Jan. 24, 2025.
Other
“Christine Benz and John Rekenthaler: How Much Can You Safely Spend in Retirement?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 21, 2021.
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Our guest this week is Hendrik du Toit, CEO and co-founder of Ninety One Asset Management, which is dually listed in London and Johannesburg, South Africa, and was formerly known as Investec Asset Management, founded in 1991. In addition to running Ninety One, Hendrik is on the board of Naspers and its European subsidiary, Prosus, which is a cornerstone investor in China’s Tencent. He has served on the Leadership Council of the Sustainable Development Solutions Network, a United Nations initiative, and is a public figure in his native South Africa and in the United Kingdom. Hendrik holds degrees from Stellenbosch University and Cambridge. Hendrik, thanks so much for joining us on The Long View.
Background
Ninety One Global Strategy Fund – Global Environment Fund IX Acc GBP
Ninety One Global Sustainable Equity I Acc GBP
Ninety One Emerging Markets Local Currency Debt Fund A Accumulation USD
Ninety One GSF Emerging Markets Local Currency Debt C Acc USD
Sustainability and ESG
Ninety One’s Sustainability and Stewardship Report
“Ninety One Becomes First SA Asset Manager to Sign Onto Net Zero Asset Managers Initiative,” ebnet.co.za, July 26, 2022.
“Ninety One CEO Hendrik du Toit on Asset Management and Green Investing,” Bloomberg TV video interview, Bloomberg.com, Sept. 24, 2024.
Other
“New Draft Rules Targeting In-Game Spending Wipe Billions From China’s Tech Giants,” by Wayne Chang and Laura He, cnn.com, Dec. 22, 2023.
On the podcast this week, we welcome back Dave Sekera. Dave is the chief US market strategist for Morningstar Research Services. In his role, Dave publishes research and commentary on the state of the markets and economy and is a leading voice on Morningstar.com and our other platforms. Dave and Susan Dziubinski also do a weekly show for Morningstar.com called The Morning Filter. Before assuming his current role, Dave was a managing director for DBRS Morningstar. Prior to joining Morningstar in 2010, Dave worked in the alternative asset management field. He earned his bachelor’s degree in finance and decision sciences from Miami University and holds the Chartered Financial Analyst designation. You can follow him on X @Morningstar Markets. Dave, welcome back to The Long View.
Background
Market Outlook: Healthcare, Tariffs, AI, and Inflation
“2025 Market Outlook: Markets Are Priced to Perfection, but Will It Last?” by Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, Jan. 10, 2025.
“Don’t Panic: It’s Not 2022 All Over Again,” by Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, Aug. 5, 2024.
“Healthcare: Valuations Look Fair Overall, With Select Industries Still Undervalued,” by Karen Andersen, Morningstar.com, Oct. 3, 2024.
“5 Stocks to Buy to Invest in AI With Less Risk,” The Morning Filter, Morningstar.com, Aug. 5, 2024.
“Fed Rate Cut Shows the Main Battle Against Inflation Has Been Won,” by Preston Caldwell, Morningstar.com, Sept. 18, 2024.
“We Expect GDP Growth to Weaken Until Fed’s Rate Cuts Kick In,” by Preston Caldwell, Morningstar.com, Oct. 3, 2024.
“US Stock Market Outlook: Tariffs Are 2025’s Wild Card,” by Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, Dec. 2, 2024.
Other
“Dave Sekera: Taking the Market’s Temperature,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, July 18, 2023.
Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar. On the podcast today, we welcome back Jordan Grumet. Jordan’s latest book is called The Purpose Code: How to Unlock Meaning, Maximize Happiness, and Leave a Lasting Legacy. His previous book was called Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor’s Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life. Jordan is a hospice doctor, and he hosts the popular Earn & Invest podcast. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Michigan and his medical degree from Northwestern University. Jordan, welcome back to The Long View.
Background
The Purpose Code: How to Unlock Meaning, Maximize Happiness, and Leave a Lasting Legacy
Earn & Invest podcast
Happiness Studies
“High Income Improves Evaluation of Life but not Emotional Well-Being,” by Daniel Kahneman and Angus Deaton, pnas.org, Sept. 7, 2010.
“Experienced Well-Being Rises With Income, Even Above $75,000 per Year,” by Matthew Killingsworth, pnas.org, Jan. 18, 2021.
“Income and Emotional Well-Being: A Conflict Resolved,” by Matthew Killingsworth, Daniel Kahneman, and Barbara Mellers, pnas.org, March 1, 2023.
Harvard Study of Adult Development
Other
How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful, and Wealthy Retirement, by Christine Benz
The Art of Subtraction: Doing More With Less, by Matthew May
US Bureau of Labor Statistics’ American Time Use Survey
“The Free-Time Paradox in America,” by Derek Thompson, theatlantic.com, Sept. 13, 2016.
Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar. On this week’s episode, we’ll feature some of our favorite clips from interviews we’ve done with financial planners, advisors, and retirement researchers over the past year. It’s a counterpart to a previously released “best of” episode that was all about investing.
“Daniel Crosby: Can Money Really Buy Happiness?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 17, 2024.
“Scott Rick: Are You a Tightwad or a Spendthrift?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 18, 2024.
“Anne Lester: You’re Bad at Savings and It’s Not Your Fault,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 12, 2024.
“Mark Berg: How to Help Kids Financially Without Ruining Them,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Nov. 19, 2024.
“Marc Freedman: The Case for Encore Careers,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Feb. 20, 2024.
“Howard Gleckman: We Pretend This Isn’t a Problem,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 16, 2024.
“Roger Young: Visualizing Retirement Is So Important,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Feb. 13, 2024.
“Jamila Souffrant: ‘What Type of Life Do You Actually Want to Live?’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 28, 2024.
“Jackie Cummings Koski: Late Starters Can Still Find FIRE,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Aug. 20, 2024.
“Meir Statman: ‘The Biggest Risks in Life Are Not in the Stock Market,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com.
“Christine Benz: How to Retire,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 17, 2024.
“Brad Klontz: What’s Your Money Script?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 10, 2024.
“Anne Tergesen: What Retirement Looks Like Today,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 29, 2024.
“Jonathan Clements: ‘Life Is Full of Small Pleasures,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 15, 2024.
Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Dan Lefkovitz, strategist for Morningstar Indexes. In this episode, we’ll share some of our favorite clips from 2024 interviews with portfolio managers, economists, and investment thinkers. It’s the companion to Christine Benz’s “Best of Episode” featuring highlights from conversations with financial planners, advisors, and retirement researchers.
“Joel Fried and Al Mordecai: Upholding the Culture at Primecap Management,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 30, 2024.
“JB Taylor: Small Caps Haven’t Been This Cheap in 25 Years,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 5, 2024.
“Jody Jonsson: The Case for a Global Portfolio,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 23, 2024.
“Bryan Armour: Is Index Investing’s Superpower Unstoppable?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 19, 2024.
“Sonali Pier: Don’t Rent Yield,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Feb. 27, 2024.
“Neil Shearing: What the Consensus Is Missing About the Current Economy,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, April 16, 2024.
“Omar Aguilar and Sébastien Page: Market Outlook for 2024 and Beyond,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Aug. 27, 2024.
“Carl Tannenbaum: Settling Into ‘Soft-Landing Territory,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, July 30, 2024.
“David Herro and Rajiv Jain: Should US Investors Renew Their Passports?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, July 9, 2024.
“Carl Vine: The Japan Earnings Story Has Legs,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, April 30, 2024.
“Justin Leverenz: Emerging Markets Are ‘Incredibly Attractive,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Feb. 6, 2024.
“Ankur Crawford: ‘When Software Begins to Write Software, Innovation Is Exponential,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 24, 2024.
“Jeremy Grantham: The Bigger the New Idea, the More the Market Becomes Overpriced,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 8, 2024.
“Dan Ivascyn: The Outlook for Bonds Amid a Covid ‘Aftershock Global Economy,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 21, 2024.
Today on the podcast, we welcome back Dr. Daniel Crosby. Daniel is the author of a new book called The Soul of Wealth: 50 Reflections on Money and Meaning. Daniel is the chief behavioral officer at Orion Advisor Solutions. In addition to The Soul of Money, Daniel has written several other books on behavioral finance, including The Behavioral Investor, The Laws of Wealth: Psychology and the Secret to Investor Success, and You’re Not That Great. Daniel also hosts his own podcast called Standard Deviations. He received his Bachelor of Science degree and PhD in Psychology, both from Brigham Young University.
Background
“Daniel Crosby: ‘If You’re Excited About It, It’s Probably a Bad Idea,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Aug. 31, 2021.
Books:
The Soul of Wealth: 50 Reflections on Money and Meaning
The Behavioral Investor: The Art and Science of Investment Management
The Laws of Wealth: Psychology and the Secret to Investing Success
Standard Deviations podcast
Money and Happiness
“High Income Improves Evaluation of Life but Not Emotional Well-Being,” by Daniel Kahneman and Angus Deaton, Psychological and Cognitive Sciences, Aug. 4, 2010.
“Income and Emotional Well-Being: A Conflict Resolved,” by Daniel Kahneman, Matthew Killingsworth, and Barbara Mellers, Psychological and Cognitive Sciences, Nov. 29, 2022.
Other
The Creative Act: A Way of Being, by Rick Rubin
“Michael Finke: Here’s What Makes Retirees Happy,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 2, 2019.
Our guest on the podcast today is author and financial psychologist, Dr. Brad Klontz. He’s an Associate Professor of Practice at Creighton University’s Heider College of Business. He’s also co-founder of the Financial Psychology Institute and managing principal of Your Mental Wealth Advisors, a fee-only registered investment advisory.
Brad is co-author or co-editor of nine books on the psychology of money, including his latest, Start Thinking Rich: 21 Harsh Truths to Take You From Broke to Financial Freedom, which he co-wrote with Adrian Brambila. He is a fellow of the American Psychological Association and a former President of the Hawaii Psychological Association. He was appointed to the CNBC Financial Advisor Council in 2023 and received the 2018 and 2021 Montgomery-Warschauer Awards from the Journal of Financial Planning, honoring the most outstanding contribution to the betterment of the financial planning profession. He received his Doctor of Psychology degree from Wright State University, his master’s certificate in personal financial planning from Kansas State University, his master’s in counseling and human resources development from South Dakota State University, and his bachelor’s degree in psychology from Olivet Nazarene University. Brad is also a Certified Financial Planner professional.
Background
Start Thinking Rich: 21 Harsh Truths to Take You From Broke to Financial Freedom, by Dr. Brad Klontz and Adrian Brambila
Money Scripts
“Money Beliefs and Financial Behaviors: Development of the Klontz Money Script Inventory,” by Bradley Klontz, Sonya Britt-Lutter, Jennifer Mentzer, and Ted Klontz, Journal of Financial Therapy, April 2011.
“Identify and Understand Clients’ Money Scripts: A Framework for Using the KMSI-R,” by Michelle Arpin Begina, Jessica Hickingbottom, Elaine Grogan Luttrull, Megan McCoy, and Bradley Klontz, Journal of Financial Planning, March 2018.
Behavioral Finance
“Untangling Behavioral Finance and the Psychology of Financial Planning,” by Brad Klontz, Journal of Financial Planning, January 2023.
“Integrating Interpersonal Neurobiology Into Financial Planning: Practical Applications to Facilitate Well-Being,” by Brad Klontz, Journal of Financial Planning, May 2020.
Our guests this week are Tom Idzorek and Paul Kaplan. This is Tom’s second appearance as a guest and Paul’s first. Tom is chief investment officer of retirement for Morningstar Investment Management. He also serves as a member of Morningstar’s 401(k) Committee, Public Policy Council, Global Investment Committee, US Investment Policy Committee, and the Editorial Board of Morningstar Magazine. Before retiring in 2023, Paul was director of research for Morningstar Canada and a senior member of Morningstar’s Global Research Team. He led the development of many of the quantitative methodologies behind Morningstar’s fund analysis, indexes, advisor tools, and other services. Tom and Paul are accomplished researchers and authors, having individually published or collaborated on numerous academic papers, accepted to prestigious peer-reviewed journals, and their work has received numerous awards through the years. In today’s interview, we’re focusing on one of their recent collaborations, their new book, Lifetime Financial Advice: A Personalized Optimal Multilevel Approach.
Background
“Tom Idzorek: Exploring the Role of Human and Financial Capital in Retirement Planning,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 7, 2022.
Lifetime Financial Advice: A Personalized Optimal Multilevel Approach, by Tom Idzorek and Paul Kaplan
Lifetime Financial Advice
“Joining Lifecycle Models With Mean-Variance Optimization,” by Tom Idzorek and Paul Kaplan, papers.ssrn.com, Oct. 19, 2023.
Lifetime Financial Advice Book Club Series
“Personalized Multiple Account Portfolio Optimization,” by Tom Idzorek, Financial Analysts Journal, June 29, 2023.
“The Popularity Asset Pricing Model,” by Tom Idzorek, Paul Kaplan, and Roger Ibbotson, papers.ssrn.com, Oct. 26, 2021.
“Popularity: A Bridge Between Classical and Behavioral Finance,” by Roger Ibbotson, Tom Idzorek, Paul Kaplan, and James Xiong, Research Foundation, Dec. 10, 2018.
“ESG Investing and the Popularity Asset Pricing Model (PAPM),” by Tom Idzorek, blogs.cfainstitute.org, Feb. 1, 2024.
Other
“Modern Portfolio Theory: What MPT Is and How Investors Use It,” by the Investopedia team, Investopedia.com, Aug. 29, 2023.
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