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When Shapearl Wells's son Courtney is found outside a Chicago police station with a fatal bullet wound, Shapearl immediately distrusts the official narrative. So she launches her own investigation into her son’s murder and teams up with journalists from the Invisible Institute to confront the cops and find the truth about Courtney's death. Somebody explores the racial disparities and turbulent relationship between law enforcement and citizens in one of America’s largest cities. A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

  • 33 minutes 4 seconds
    Introducing The Estate

    In the early evening on New Year’s Eve, in 1973, a 34 year old man was found bleeding to death on a downtown street in Stockton, California. In his dying moments, he named the men behind his murder: Calvin Jones and Rosalio Estrada. 50 years later, Rosalio’s son, Alex Estrada sets off to find out if his father was actually involved in the murder.

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    15 September 2023, 9:52 pm
  • 15 minutes 58 seconds
    Update: Chicago's IG Recommends Discipline, Policy Review In Courtney Copeland Case

    Three years after the release of “Somebody” podcast, Chicago continues to block the full release of the Inspector General report investigating the police response to Courtney Copeland’s murder. In this update episode, Shapearl Wells discusses the summary findings of the report that were publicly shared while she presses on for full transparency.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

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    13 May 2023, 10:00 am
  • 37 minutes 42 seconds
    Shapearl Wells on A Slight Change of Plans Podcast

    We're sharing a special podcast with you this week: A Slight Change of Plans, which was just named Apple Podcasts' Best Show of the Year. Hosted by Dr. Maya Shankar, A Slight Change of Plans is all about understanding the science of change. That understanding, mixed with a healthy dose of compassion, has made the show a perfect antidote for the times we’re living in. In this episode, Maya talks to Shapearl about Courtney's story, and Shapearl's continued fight for the truth. You can find more episodes of A Slight Change of Plans whenever you get your podcasts.

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    23 December 2021, 8:34 pm
  • 16 minutes 28 seconds
    Courtney's Book Bag

    The team shares a major development in the case. Shapearl keeps busy with the Courtney Copeland Memorial Foundation's annual book bag giveaway (www.copelandmemorial.com), as Alison remembers the role of Courtney's own book bag in the murder investigation. And Shapearl memorializes one of Courtney's best friends, Steve Otero.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

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    29 September 2020, 7:00 am
  • 21 minutes 57 seconds
    "Democracy in the Streets," a Conversation with Shapearl Wells and Jamie Kalven

    Shapearl and Jamie sit down to talk about the uprising for Black lives happening in Chicago and around the nation, and their hope that this moment might translate to great positive change.


    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

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    12 June 2020, 7:00 am
  • 28 minutes 51 seconds
    Shapearl

    Having taken her investigation as far as she can, Shapearl moves on to an even bigger fight: making sure this never happens to anyone else’s child. She travels to Brazil to speak at a summit of mothers of murdered children and works to honor Courtney’s legacy and advocate for police reform in new ways.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

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    Host: Shapearl Wells

    Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy

    Story Editor: Sarah Geis

    Associate Producer: Ellen Glover

    Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven

    Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs

    Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge

    Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw

    Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael

    Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper

    Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.

    Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez

    Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini

    Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment

    Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf. Elizabeth Van Brocklin's original story, "Scoop and Run: Where Cops Cars Double as Ambulances" first appeared in The Trace.

    Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. Altman III, Titus Glover/Baatin, J Dilla); recording artist/performance by Chance the Rapper, appearing courtesy of himself and Chance the Rapper LLC.

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    12 May 2020, 7:00 am
  • 58 seconds
    Coming Up on the Season Finale

    After Shapearl and the Invisible Institute hand over all of their evidence to Chicago Police, the job is not done. In this Episode 7 season finale preview, Shapearl gives a glimpse into her life beyond Courtney's case as she advocates for reform and fights to preserve her son's legacy.

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    5 May 2020, 9:00 am
  • 40 minutes 14 seconds
    The Tipster

    Shapearl receives a Facebook message from someone with crucial information, but police dismiss the tip. On Halloween night 2018, there’s a similar murder in the neighborhood where Courtney was shot. Shapearl and Alison decide to tell detectives what they know.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

    We want to hear from you, email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121. For more information, go to somebodypodcast.com.


    Host: Shapearl Wells

    Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy

    Story Editor: Sarah Geis

    Associate Producer: Ellen Glover

    Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven

    Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs

    Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge

    Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw

    Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael

    Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper

    Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.

    Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez

    Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini

    Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment

    Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.

    Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. Altman III, Titus Glover/Baatin, J Dilla); recording artist/performance by Chance the Rapper, appearing courtesy of himself and Chance the Rapper LLC.

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    2 May 2020, 7:00 am
  • 26 minutes 49 seconds
    The Two-Year Anniversary

    On the second anniversary of Courtney’s death, Shapearl holds a middle-of-the-night protest in front of the police station. She drives the exact route that Courtney took the night he was killed, and runs into the supervising officer from that night. Two witnesses show up at the protest to tell Shapearl what they know.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

    We want to hear from you, email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121. For more information, go to somebodypodcast.com.


    Host: Shapearl Wells

    Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy

    Story Editor: Sarah Geis

    Associate Producer: Ellen Glover

    Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven

    Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs

    Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge

    Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw

    Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael

    Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper

    Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.

    Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez

    Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini

    Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment

    Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.

    Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. Altman III, Titus Glover/Baatin, J Dilla); recording artist/performance by Chance the Rapper, appearing courtesy of himself and Chance the Rapper LLC.

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    28 April 2020, 7:00 am
  • 43 minutes 38 seconds
    The Secret Girlfriend

    Shapearl and Alison sit down with Courtney’s secret girlfriend. Turns out, she knows more than she initially told Shapearl and provides new leads in the case.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.

    We want to hear from you, email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121. For more information, go to somebodypodcast.com.


    Host: Shapearl Wells

    Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy

    Story Editor: Sarah Geis

    Associate Producer: Ellen Glover

    Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven

    Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs

    Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge

    Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw

    Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael

    Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper

    Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.

    Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez

    Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini

    Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment

    Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.

    Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. Altman III, Titus Glover/Baatin, J Dilla); recording artist/performance by Chance the Rapper, appearing courtesy of himself and Chance the Rapper LLC.

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    21 April 2020, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    The Police

    Shapearl enters a legal battle with the City of Chicago, to get them to release videos from the night Courtney died. She contacts a journalism organization called the Invisible Institute and teams up with them to investigate the case. With this added pressure, the city releases the videos, and Shapearl and her family gather to watch. New information prompts the Invisible Institute and Shapearl to re-examine the case.

    A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.


    We want to hear from you, email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121.


    Host: Shapearl Wells

    Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy

    Story Editor: Sarah Geis

    Associate Producer: Ellen Glover

    Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven

    Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs

    Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge

    Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw

    Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael

    Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper

    Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.

    Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez

    Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini

    Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment


    Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.

    Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. Altman III, Titus Glover/Baatin, J Dilla); recording artist/performance by Chance the Rapper, appearing courtesy of himself and Chance the Rapper LLC.

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    14 April 2020, 1:08 pm
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